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who would win a tournament with the best teams of each year?
2013 NiP
2015 fnatic
2015 EnVyUs
2016 LG/SK
2018 Astralis
2021 NaVi
2022 FaZe
2023 G2
as much as i wanna say envyus, i think astralis would win it
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He also forgot Liquid
Literally top 2 team for 2 years, fastest grand slam, longest match win streak, competitive top 5 team for years
Pure dominance until playerbreak
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top 2 team for 2 years and competitive team for 5 years........ kind of irrelevant when we are talking about the best team of every year
Why is liquid skipped? Because they where never the best team in the world
The speed of a grand slam doesn't really matter when the best team in the world didn't compete in the tournaments. Astralis and Liquid beat eachother the same amount of times during the liquid grand slam.
Also no, NIP has the longest win streak with 0-86.
longest match win streak? liquid? wtf is this guy on haha. blud was not born when NIP won 87 maps or what
What is bro babbling about. Liquid was never even close to NiPs 87-0. Ofcourse the fastest IGS but also the fastest downfall. They were good for 2 months which isn't an era btw.
2023 - vitality
not only they won a bigger trophy than g2, but they didnt lose to g2 this year
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Who invited Gamers2 💀💀💀
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i wanted to put 8 teams but i was in a rush and coudn't think of any other 💀
probably vitality or heroic but truth is none of these won as much trophies as the others
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vitality's run way more impressive No partner teams BS
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for katowice to get into event you need esl ranking slot in which partner teams are way more favoured
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The most recent would know how to counter everything that the oldest ones have already done, it makes no sense to compare periods
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bro said G2 lol
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RLewis, Thorin, moses and SPUNJ did a podcast fake Major tournament with all the best teams.
Astralis won in the end.
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+1 good series
Astralis 100% lmfao
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2017 astralis > 2018 astralis in my books
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>name
The level of competition, map pool, and changes in weapons meta changes year to year so unfortunately you cannot really compare. The best team at the time is the best.
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And Bayern 12/13 (one with Heynckes) better than 2020
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nope. i was a g2 fan when kenny was in the roster. i totally disliked g2 after niko
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people who say that a team like SK couldn't beat modern teams probably didn't watch or don't remember how insane coldzera, fer and fallen were
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true, if that SK team travelled in time to 2023 and got all the resources modern teams have like all the setups and game knowledge that even t3 teams posses, they would just learn the meta and smash. the cohesion, the mentality and personalities are what makes a great team, meta can easily be learned.
Wrong, they would get brutalised. You're just holding onto nostalgia.
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completely wrong, players a lot better now
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jkaem and styko went to major semifinal my friend lmao. Its not really about players, its about tactics. I can show you so many highlights from that era where players aims looked insane
it's okay to be wrong, we've all been there.
2023 G2 XDDD
who invited g2? i didnt
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Nice alt lil bro
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if we're removing g2 i'm definitely adding VP or Vitality
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VP 2014? I guess... but Liquid 2019 is superior. Won multiple events and was the team that won the IGS the fastest.
Vitality is simply too soon. They won 2 events in a row. That's it. Most of the teams from your list are teams that dominated for specific periods of time. Vitality doesn't even have the firepower to compete with any of these teams. ZywOo isn't enough,
Snuck in EnvyUs like we wouldn’t notice lmao, also good bait on G2.
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??? major winner, major finalist at esl one cologne and won a lot of trophies in 2015 (envy)
FaZe 2017?
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tim duncan spurs imo
LG/SK >>> EnvyUs
2023 is vitality
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definitely not. the level of competition was already high in 2017 where SK dominated.
but NiP maybe
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fnatic won that major as a underdog team
it would be great if you would add the lineups
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NiP: GeT_RiGhT - f0rest - Xizt - friberg - Fifflaren
fnatic: flusha - JW - KRIMZ - pronax - olofmeister
EnVyUs: KioShiMa - kennyS - apEX - Happy - NBK
LG/SK: fer - fnx/boltz/felps - FalleN - coldzera - TACO (the 3 versions are good)
Astralis: dev1ce - Xyp9x - gla1ve - Magisk - dupreeh
NaVi: s1mple - Boombl4 - electronic - b1t - Perfecto
FaZe: broky - Twistzz - karrigan - rain - ropz
G2: m0NESY - NiKo - HooXi - hunter - jks
but you could add Vitality or VP instead of G2
I think it would depend on what version of CS the teams are playing if were playing 2023 CSGO the I'd have to say 2018 Astralis and think the grand final would be against 2022 FaZe. if its like the 2013/2015 CS then id put my money on 2015 fnatic with the grand final going against LG/SK
nip 2013
vp 2014
fnatic 2015
envyus 2015
sk 2016
astralis 2018
liquid 2019
navi 2021
faze 2022
honourable mentions
very games 2013
ldlc 2014
tsm 2015
fnatic 2016
navi 2016
astralis 2017
gambit 2017
faze 2017
cloud9 2018
mouse 2018
navi 2018
ence 2019
vita 2019
big 2020
gambit 2021
heroic 2022
g2 23
vita 23
astralis not close but debate is useless as no one will never know
in my heart it's LG/SK, but I know it's Astralis
2021 navi wins
2013-2015 is joke era, they would lose to any top50 team today. Just rewatch the games if you don't believe me.
16/17 LG-SK: legit core of aimers even by today standards, with actual genius levels of game sense and concepts that not only are compatible with modern play, but originated them. Fer CT aggresion and info paly, fallen battle awpers and call, cold abusing map control information with lurks, all great stuff that would hold up well. They lack modern era knowledge of utilities, so they lose to recent teams, but grant them access to a 2023 youtube nades channel and I no longer know what happens. Given the age of players at the time, the real tragedy is that they were from a 3rd world isolated country, otherwise they would have won everything since csgo debut, easily.
2018 astralis: 5 extremely smart players with device and magisk shooting very hard. They excelled in utility innovation, preparation, coordination and anti-strating, something that modern teams do as well. Without that edge, I think they lose the head to head, but maybe the games are close in unexpected ways.
2021 navi: nearly flawless team at the eye test. They incorporated SK game sens and Astralis preparation combined with god like form of peak s1mple, elec and b1t. Without the Ukraine war (and boombl4 marrying a hoooker), there would be zero doubt as they being the best and most successful team ever.
2022 faze: many of the same qualities as navi, but faze didn't have a players as good as simple, and navi didn't have a player as bad as karrigan.
2023 teams: lol. not only are they lacking a truly dominant team, the eye test is not generous. So many mistakes all around. Truly a weird time to watch high level CS, but the competion and changes at the top make it exciting I guess.
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