there's no heroic without cadian
2023-06-08 14:03
It could work if someone else is able to call at a decent level at least
2023-06-08 14:04
-who?
-cadian? who's the igl? do we need to kick another player for an igl?
2023-06-08 14:05
the only top 10 team i see device being good in is mouz and liquid.
2023-06-08 14:05
Cadian is Heroic. So removing him is out of question.
So it depends, how good rifle was Device anyway?
2023-06-08 14:05
Role wise, only if they kicked TeSeS. But would it be really upgrade?
2023-06-08 14:08
I don't really think Heroic needs changes!
Everyone loves to hate them but they are a really strong team.. Last final they played vs vitality they did disappear though!
2023-06-08 14:26
device is a demon on rifle. -TeSeS and watch the goat create a 5+ year era with CadiaN
2023-06-08 14:35
device is a top awper, but so is cadian. For heroic playstyle i think cadian awping fits perfectly. I'd say cadian is one of the best awpers in the world right now no doubt, but people underrate him.
2023-06-08 14:44
Heroic's system is great and this is because of cadiaN's igling, so him leaving is out of question.
Now we would have cadiaN or device with rifle, and honestly that just seems like a mess to me. For cadiaN to rifle I think is even worse because it would change Heroic's dynamics.
I wouldnt ever -cadian/jabbi/stavn, so the only way it could still possibly work would be -TeSeS or -sjuush and device to rifle. Sjuush is an exceptional support, I think it would be too risky. Is it worth to -TeSeS and device to rifle? Honestly I dont know the answer.
Still, imo Heroic is the most solid team in the world rn, so I tend to think its not worth doing such changes.
2023-06-08 15:53
Nah he would ruin Heroic.
2023-06-08 16:22
device will be joining vitality
2023-06-08 19:10
I don't think it would work out. And Cadian is Heroic at this point.
2023-06-08 19:12
Why on earth consistent tier 1 team has to replace IGL+AWPer. No need to do that.
2023-06-08 19:14
yes but who to loose? Device will only play with awp. And cadian is good on awp. So the idea is good but cant se who should move.
2023-06-08 19:20
Why would device downgrade? Heroic is the team with the highest floor and the lowest ceiling. They always do well, but never really amazing. Astralis with Staehr is much more promising for trophies long term
2023-06-08 19:24
The only player you can touch on Heroic is TeSeS - and I still wouldn't do that. sjuush is one of if not the best support players and clutchers in CSGO - and if you watch Heroic playercams during freezetime / tac timeouts, he's a big contributor with secondary/third calling
2023-06-08 19:27
it could work but I think that device is sticking with his dear friend gla1ve at least for another year
2023-06-09 13:04