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Finland DTeeVee 
Could this team ever work ?
2023-06-08 14:02
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there's no heroic without cadian
2023-06-08 14:03
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device could go back to being rifle and second awp. But who would you remove? Heroic is sick. Maybe sjuush? Anyone who does position analysis comment here
2023-06-08 15:04
14 replies
Sjuush is great player, there is no point in removing any player but if they have to play device on rifle it would be -TeSeS
2023-06-08 16:23
#28
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Finland DTeeVee
TeSeS
2023-06-08 16:24
If device was to join why wouldn't cadian rather give up the awp since he's not that spectacular with it?
2023-06-08 19:12
teses, he's the worst heroic player rn
2023-06-08 19:12
why put a better awper as second awp?
2023-06-08 19:18
5 replies
Nvm
2023-06-08 19:21
he thinks forcing device to rifle would be better than forcing cadian to rifle LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2023-06-08 19:23
3 replies
#47
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Mongolia k0ng0
device is actually a rifler from the beginning, he just picked up the awp back in the day because noone else on team was awping. He's said in an interview a long time ago that he would like to go back to rifling if I remember correctly. Device as hybrid could work. That said, I don't think this will ever happen.
2023-06-08 19:29
2 replies
ok but device is best danish awper by far so in this hypothetical situation why would he go to heroic if wouldnt he be the one to do it?
2023-06-08 19:35
Only person in the whole thread who actually knows what players want
2023-06-09 13:01
Why would device go back to rifling lmfao
2023-06-08 19:21
1 reply
He wants to
2023-06-09 13:01
hell no, device is the best awper
2023-06-08 19:23
1 reply
#45
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Norway Rob!n
8/8
2023-06-08 19:25
+1000
2023-06-08 15:57
It could work if someone else is able to call at a decent level at least
2023-06-08 14:04
-who? -cadian? who's the igl? do we need to kick another player for an igl?
2023-06-08 14:05
2 replies
#14
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Finland Lindeni
Stavn is the "crown prince" as Cadian has said before.
2023-06-08 14:47
#24
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Finland DTeeVee
Options: -cadiaN -TeSeS +device +IGL -TeSeS +device and device goes to rifle -TeSeS +device and device goes to AWP; cadiaN goes to rifle (big risk cos cadiaN is trash with rifle) -cadiaN +device and someone else goes to IGL
2023-06-08 16:25
the only top 10 team i see device being good in is mouz and liquid.
2023-06-08 14:05
4 replies
#15
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Lebanon triskacik
neither is top 10 team lmao
2023-06-08 14:48
3 replies
Liquid is, mouz is 11
2023-06-08 15:55
2 replies
#21
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Lebanon triskacik
not really
2023-06-08 15:56
1 reply
expect they are, so you are wrong
2023-06-08 15:57
Cadian is Heroic. So removing him is out of question. So it depends, how good rifle was Device anyway?
2023-06-08 14:05
5 replies
of course you would not remove him
2023-06-08 14:59
#25
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Finland DTeeVee
What if cadiaN becomes a rifler and device takes AWPer role ?
2023-06-08 16:21
1 reply
My fear is that Cadian sucks with rifle and loses confidence and starts calling worse because of that
2023-06-08 19:09
wasn't device originally a rifler before he eventually at some point went main AWP and secondary rifler?
2023-06-08 19:11
1 reply
He was yes, but thats so long ago. Before Astralis meta that defined fundamentals how this game should be played for all roles.
2023-06-08 19:31
device washed /closed
2023-06-08 14:06
Role wise, only if they kicked TeSeS. But would it be really upgrade?
2023-06-08 14:08
1 reply
Well assuming you put cadian to awp, and cadian to teses roles, yes, abso fuckin lutely, or even if you put devve on rifle for whatever absurd reason, devve would upgrade almost every team, bar from language barrier ones
2023-06-08 14:57
I don't really think Heroic needs changes! Everyone loves to hate them but they are a really strong team.. Last final they played vs vitality they did disappear though!
2023-06-08 14:26
2 replies
#29
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Finland DTeeVee
like in every final
2023-06-08 16:29
i think if cadian and stavn swapped guns (stavn primary AWP and Cadian rifle) and they spent some time learning new roles they'd win more
2023-06-08 16:32
#9
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Sweden sweden_top1
cadian > ecovice
2023-06-08 14:28
device is a demon on rifle. -TeSeS and watch the goat create a 5+ year era with CadiaN
2023-06-08 14:35
2 replies
#11
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Germany r4v1x
0/8
2023-06-08 14:37
1 reply
flag
2023-06-08 14:42
device is a top awper, but so is cadian. For heroic playstyle i think cadian awping fits perfectly. I'd say cadian is one of the best awpers in the world right now no doubt, but people underrate him.
2023-06-08 14:44
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Brazil kzk0
Heroic's system is great and this is because of cadiaN's igling, so him leaving is out of question. Now we would have cadiaN or device with rifle, and honestly that just seems like a mess to me. For cadiaN to rifle I think is even worse because it would change Heroic's dynamics. I wouldnt ever -cadian/jabbi/stavn, so the only way it could still possibly work would be -TeSeS or -sjuush and device to rifle. Sjuush is an exceptional support, I think it would be too risky. Is it worth to -TeSeS and device to rifle? Honestly I dont know the answer. Still, imo Heroic is the most solid team in the world rn, so I tend to think its not worth doing such changes.
2023-06-08 15:53
Nah he would ruin Heroic.
2023-06-08 16:22
device will be joining vitality
2023-06-08 19:10
I don't think it would work out. And Cadian is Heroic at this point.
2023-06-08 19:12
Why on earth consistent tier 1 team has to replace IGL+AWPer. No need to do that.
2023-06-08 19:14
yes but who to loose? Device will only play with awp. And cadian is good on awp. So the idea is good but cant se who should move.
2023-06-08 19:20
#44
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Denmark 2ism
Why would device downgrade? Heroic is the team with the highest floor and the lowest ceiling. They always do well, but never really amazing. Astralis with Staehr is much more promising for trophies long term
2023-06-08 19:24
1 reply
I don't buy it. Astralis is not going to be able to do much with BlameF and gla1ve continuing to be on the roster.
2023-06-08 19:32
The only player you can touch on Heroic is TeSeS - and I still wouldn't do that. sjuush is one of if not the best support players and clutchers in CSGO - and if you watch Heroic playercams during freezetime / tac timeouts, he's a big contributor with secondary/third calling
2023-06-08 19:27
#53
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Japan papa_smurf
it could work but I think that device is sticking with his dear friend gla1ve at least for another year
2023-06-09 13:04
1 reply
#54
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Germany xxSL
friendship and girls never good for professionals, device proved
2023-06-09 13:12
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