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Counter-Strike > State of Modern CS
State of Modern CS
NAF | 
United States Bbaby 
1 Ence Win IEM Dallas > Loose to Virtus Pro on LAN ( cannot smash them game went to overtime ) 2 Vitality Win Paris Major > Loose to Imperial on LAN ( clean 2-0 on LAN, got fucking smashed ) 3 Device drops 1.40 at IEM dallas as Astralis make Quarterfinals > Looses to Faze and COL in close games but ends event with 0.8 rating I have been following CSGO esport since cluj napoca, These past 5 months are the WEAKEST the sport has ever been.
2023-06-09 17:49
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#1
bLitz | 
Uzbekistan sanji_bestest_support
Or maybe everyone are just good
2023-06-09 17:50
8 replies
#3
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Russia Lost_Wanderer
means game has low skill ceiling valorant > cs go once again
2023-06-09 17:51
6 replies
#5
bLitz | 
Uzbekistan sanji_bestest_support
valorant skill ceiling is 100x lower
2023-06-09 17:51
2 replies
#11
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
+1 i think valorant does not have a skill cieling that is respectable at all any washed player can be competent over there
2023-06-09 17:53
#45
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United States KhanQu3st
Depends on what you mean by "skill". Team coordination and utility is way more complex and requires far more dedication than CS. Plus CS has existed for decades, while Valorant is just a couple years old, it's only natural that the overall skill level is higher, bc there are players like s1mple who have played CS for 12+ years.
2023-06-09 18:23
#48
twizzy | 
Canada Bak2BED
0/8 why do u think washed bots in cs go to valorant lol
2023-06-09 18:29
2 replies
#50
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Russia Lost_Wanderer
yet these washed cs go players like nitr0 dont achieve anything in valorant
2023-06-09 19:09
1 reply
#52
twizzy | 
Canada Bak2BED
0iq argument + flag
2023-06-09 22:21
#49
OK | 
Peru VeryNormalUser
objectively bad players are beating objectively good players - must be because skill is higher
2023-06-09 19:06
#2
Russia Antonelli
if multiple teams have the chance to win an event, it's more competitive, so the word weak makes no sense in that regard.
2023-06-09 17:50
6 replies
#6
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
if there are no stratified skill levels there is no sport everybody is messi / lebron
2023-06-09 17:52
5 replies
#14
Russia Antonelli
what the fuck am I reading
2023-06-09 17:54
4 replies
#15
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
#13
2023-06-09 17:54
3 replies
#17
Russia Antonelli
that comparison makes as little sense as this thread, please consider leaving this forum/asking for an account deletion.
2023-06-09 17:55
2 replies
#19
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
#13
2023-06-09 17:56
1 reply
#20
Russia Antonelli
#14
2023-06-09 17:56
#4
JW | 
Netherlands crywhywhy
low skill ceiling, good thing cs2 is out because it had been reached.
2023-06-09 17:51
1 reply
#53
Other juize
cs2 has even lower skill ceiling
2023-06-09 22:26
#7
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Georgia Megobari
Nah, it's more interesting nowadays, because you never know who will win.
2023-06-09 17:52
2 replies
#8
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
but whoever wins can never win again in their season that is not sports for me
2023-06-09 17:52
1 reply
#12
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Georgia Megobari
I prefer this randomness and madness than the era when Astralis was winning every single event and everyone knew that it was impossible for someone else to win the event.
2023-06-09 17:54
#9
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Chad sopp1ng
cs has been way better to watch lately. Love all the upsets and tier 2 /3 teams shitting on complacent tier 1 teams.
2023-06-09 17:52
2 replies
#22
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
no they are not complacent i think whats happening is that tier 2 players play different style of cs than tier 1 players in practice and officials before when these styles clashed, tier 1 players always won. nowadays you get a team like into the breach make it into playoffs
2023-06-09 17:58
1 reply
#51
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Chad sopp1ng
exactly. And tier 1 teams aren't taking the time to anti strat these teams and learn how to beat them. They are getting complacent only playing each other....
2023-06-09 21:27
#10
United States PsychoLogical25
nah, I prefer it like this. No one needs to see the same teams choke and win. That's how shit gets stale.
2023-06-09 17:53
1 reply
#13
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
you clearly never watch sports
2023-06-09 17:53
#16
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Bullitead
3 individual matches = blanket statement of current CS situation and all teams are the same. Meanwhile Heroic consistently making deep runs in big events, NiKo hit a record 30-4 in one half on Ancient, Gamerlegion Monte and ITB make playoffs through grinding and innovation. But CS is bad because of 3 games….
2023-06-09 17:54
10 replies
#18
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
i was talking about last week huh i made a comment about last 5 months as well understand english before you type back
2023-06-09 17:55
9 replies
#26
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Bullitead
The better performing teams are reaching deeper into tournaments, just because the “top tier 1” teams aren’t making it doesn’t mean the scene is weak. Greater diversity in CS is a good thing, we don’t want the rest of the world mirroring what happens in NA. Your flag, my flag.
2023-06-09 18:04
8 replies
#27
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
#22
2023-06-09 18:05
7 replies
#30
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Bullitead
Which clearly shows the scene is getting stronger, because now the gap between T1 and T2/T3 is far closer because of the work these teams are putting in. You’ve argued yourself out of your original post.
2023-06-09 18:10
6 replies
#31
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
no in my opinion every sport needs to have stratified clearly separate skill tiers if they are not present, then its not a sports like pattern every dude is super good, every dude is messi / lebron its bad for the sport to have such a pattern
2023-06-09 18:11
5 replies
#36
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Bullitead
What you are suggesting is literally NA CS right now, you have the top tier teams in their own zone that dominate the rest. However, when playing against other innovative regions they get smashed, That kind of insular approach results in stagnation and complacency because each team in their designated tiers will not improve. How do you not understand this?
2023-06-09 18:15
4 replies
#38
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
"because each team in their designated tiers will not improve" this is the fault in your thinking, they do improve and push the game. messi plays on the highest division of football, lebron plays on the NBA ( 400 players allowed only ) not lower divisions the sport operates and gets pushed further as players who are getting good and getting bad get recycled
2023-06-09 18:18
3 replies
#43
Russia Antonelli
can you stop comparing a fucking video game to professional sports that existed for centuries
2023-06-09 18:20
1 reply
#44
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
ummm, 22 years and going strong CS is the only game you can compare to sports we also have the most different divisions ( ESEA, ECL, Pro League .. etc ) we will go for 22 more years.
2023-06-09 18:22
#46
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Bullitead
Please explain how EG, Col and Liquid are improving and pushing the game? EG have won something like 3 or 4 maps in 20 odd Bo3 matches in the last 4 EPL group stages combined. Explain how Osee, the top T1 AWP on the best team in NA, is so awful and cannot cope against tier 2/3/4 CIS or EU AWPers?
2023-06-09 18:25
#21
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Sweden Akoulad
Richard Lewis has infected your brain, sad.
2023-06-09 17:58
1 reply
#23
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
haha, i did read his hooxi take long ago but thats it
2023-06-09 17:59
#24
Zyphon | 
Europe clegur
-vitality just won the most important event of the year - you gotta understand they they don't care as much about the next tournament, prepare less or just are a bit "hangover" -astralis players got a bit rumbled by the staehr news - especially alktez probably -ence had a relatively easy run in dallas + same arguments as for vitality- this tournament means nothing to them as they already qualified for pro league
2023-06-09 18:01
3 replies
#29
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
thats the hltv cope for these performances
2023-06-09 18:07
2 replies
#32
Zyphon | 
Europe clegur
you believe what you want to believe my guy- just giving another perspective that doesn't rely on crying about the "good ol' times" - they were bad
2023-06-09 18:12
1 reply
#34
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
nice cope again
2023-06-09 18:13
#25
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Russia BIGGEST_FORZE_FAN
Everybody learned how to play cs lol
2023-06-09 18:04
1 reply
#28
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
true
2023-06-09 18:06
#33
dycha | 
United States MONKE420
brother that was one bo1 also ence lose first maps to faze and astralis
2023-06-09 18:13
1 reply
#35
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
my point to make is that, winners of big lan cannot even dominate others anymore
2023-06-09 18:14
#37
f0rest | 
Chile esanchez47
Well, thanks for the analysis
2023-06-09 18:17
1 reply
#41
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
appreciate it f0rest fan, he is a legend
2023-06-09 18:19
#39
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Ukraine liquinify
That's amazing tho, the fact that now t2 team has the capability of beating favorites
2023-06-09 18:18
2 replies
#42
NAF | 
United States Bbaby
yeah but it makes the sport weaker the highest of the highest level of this sport is now touched by many more
2023-06-09 18:20
1 reply
#47
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Ukraine liquinify
Cs2 will change it to what we used to know 100%
2023-06-09 18:28
#40
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Brazil 0mega_
And CS2 will have an even lower skill ceiling with the bigger hitboxes and worse movement Btw most of these CSGO upsets happen because all it takes for a team to win a game is their AWP abuser to be on a good day. The gun is busted and can 1v9, most games are AWP diff in some way, the other 8 players are supporting cast to the 2 AWP abusing wannabe anime protagonists
2023-06-09 18:20
#54
f0rest | 
Sweden agzbagz1337
You’re completely right but for some reason people deny it. Hopefully CS2 will shake things up a bit.
2023-06-09 22:29
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