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Counter-Strike > Furia's decisions
Furia's decisions
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Brazil galaxysz 
They kicked Vini and replaced him with drop, one of the dumbest decisions, it's like the -interz +buster Vini improved a lot, he is a very important piece at t side, and on CT side he can win clutches, and drop make kinda dumb decisions and has a bad psychologic
2023-06-10 01:37
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#1
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United States ezpop
The next dumb decision is to bring back ancient player Fallen. You have to start a new generation some time you can’t keep using dinosaurs
2023-06-10 01:40
43 replies
#3
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Brazil galaxysz
tbh the old man is doing very good at t side calls
2023-06-10 01:42
23 replies
#6
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United States ezpop
It’s not about being good or bad, it’s about him being too old. He had a few fluke wins recently, also doesn’t mean he’s good enough for T1 or to win tournaments in tier 1, I highly doubt he can. And if he igls he’s occupying awp with his low rating as well
2023-06-10 01:44
21 replies
#19
Jame | 
Brazil neblina
I think you don't know what a team is! You continue using "HE" like FalleN was a Team when he's a piece of it, there are another 4 other players which make a team be what it is. And I see no one talking to Karrigan leave faze why's that?
2023-06-10 01:51
14 replies
#21
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United States ezpop
Karrigan won a lot of tournaments recently and he doesn’t waste the awp spot with low rating. I don’t think you understood my opinion. This isn’t about leaving it’s about adding an old guy who should either retire or is near retirement . It makes no sense
2023-06-10 01:54
10 replies
#34
Jame | 
Brazil neblina
hltv.org/stats/players/18835/saffee?star.. hltv.org/stats/players/19692/zevy?startD.. hltv.org/stats/players/20939/history?sta.. hltv.org/stats/players/19694/nqz?startDa.. Ok, choose a YOUNG TALENT from Brasil and tell me he is better than FalleN hltv.org/stats/players/2023/fallen?start..
2023-06-10 03:09
9 replies
#39
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United States ezpop
So you wanna tell me fallen is better or the same as all of the best awpers of Brazil? Ok 0/8
2023-06-10 03:35
6 replies
#40
Jame | 
Brazil neblina
Pick one bro! kkkk you won't cause they suck and fallen is an IGL and support better
2023-06-10 03:36
5 replies
#41
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United States ezpop
It’s fine you’re a huge fallen fan obviously
2023-06-10 03:37
4 replies
#42
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Brazil olod
cant pick one cause they are all average. riflers, ok. but we dont have a realiable young awper
2023-06-10 03:42
3 replies
#43
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United States ezpop
Hen1 is good
2023-06-10 03:46
2 replies
#67
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Brazil briskane
Hen1 is not that young anymore
2023-06-10 20:06
1 reply
#68
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United States ezpop
If you call Hen1 “old” then Fallen is a ancient grandpa
2023-06-10 20:10
#50
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Kyrgyzstan TheNaturalBornKiller
bro at least this awpers (besides saffee) can improve in future unlike FalleN
2023-06-10 17:46
1 reply
#57
Jame | 
Brazil neblina
FalleN can IGL, Support and AWP at the same time they can't, so I don't know what are you talking about. At they age 18, fallen already played against the best teams and players
2023-06-10 19:06
#22
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Brazil falmes_enjoyer
Are you blind man every day faze loses people say -karrigan
2023-06-10 01:57
#30
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New Zealand Chicken_RD
first two pages of google 'faze karrigan hltv forum' hltv.org/forums/threads/2786267/faze-pla.. hltv.org/forums/threads/2786233/karrigan hltv.org/forums/threads/2783250/karrigan hltv.org/forums/threads/2784307/once-aga.. hltv.org/forums/threads/2783798/karrigan
2023-06-10 02:19
#33
vicu | 
Brazil joao2315
lol no everyday hltv be roasting Karrigan
2023-06-10 02:40
#69
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France joaocbbc
Honest question for you: do you think that Karrigan is good for T1?
2023-06-10 20:12
5 replies
#70
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United States ezpop
So winning tournaments isn’t good enough for you?
2023-06-10 20:16
4 replies
#71
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France joaocbbc
Of course, it is. But I don't see people blaming FalleN when Imperial doesn't win matches as people do for Karrigan at least. Every day here I see at least 3 threads roasting Karrigan. What I see is an IGL as good as FalleN, but with worse stats, way less impact and worse support that happens to be surrounded with 4 insane T1 players, a thing that FalleN isn't. If you're talking about age you should be at least cohesive in your toughts. Karrigan is a worse player (at the moment) and you're talking like FalleN is not an option for Furia but Karrigan is for FaZe. If we considering age and stats I don't see why praise Karrigan when he's doing nothing for FaZe.
2023-06-10 20:25
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#72
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United States ezpop
That’s utterly wrong. As being a IGL is being a player, it’s a cs player role, he’s way way way better than fallen. How many tournaments did fallen win in the last years? Okay. And secondly, this forum is full of degenerates and haters and toxic kids, you’re smart if you don’t think too much about them and don’t take them seriously. 98% of opinions here are imbalanced / toxic / childish trash
2023-06-10 20:27
2 replies
#76
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France joaocbbc
I see your point, but what was Karrigan winning when playing for MOUZ? Clown events. Even when in Astralis the man didn't win nothing. As I said, Karrigan just happens to be surrounded with insane T1 players. If you watched what FalleN did in this last round of Imperial x Heroic, you can see the impact FalleN could bring to a team if he was surrounded with another insane T1 players.
2023-06-10 20:38
1 reply
#77
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United States ezpop
If you don’t respect karrigan as a igl I don’t have anything I have to say to you anymore, you’re one of the haters then that don’t have any respect. Good luck
2023-06-10 20:45
#32
NBK- | 
Netherlands NBK2majorZywho0major
Considering they have kind of removed all the 'furia' style. It might just be best to get fallen to actually get structure in the team. drop is just most likely too passive for this style. As seen by the recent performance of bne the style can still work.
2023-06-10 02:31
#5
Brazil arcblason
The new generation should play for mibr,pain,00nation or other brazilian teams. I think furia should be just for veterans or players that already showed they can perform against tier 1.
2023-06-10 01:44
3 replies
#8
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United States ezpop
Veterans? No. Proven players yes. Veteran usually means retired old guy btw - maybe rethink your opinion
2023-06-10 01:45
2 replies
#52
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Portugal rbm14
you have very strong opinions on what teams should do for someone who is a g2 fan - maybe rethink your opinion
2023-06-10 17:55
1 reply
#54
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United States ezpop
0/8
2023-06-10 18:30
#13
donk | 
Brazil 1_Flippy
+1 long term not a good move, but i guess they just wanna make bank, i dont blame them... br buyouts are stupid
2023-06-10 01:47
5 replies
#15
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United States ezpop
It’s the typical igl issue, good igls are rare otherwise fallen would be no discussion. He’s like an emergency guy because there’s no one else. Too bad they lost faith in arT it seems it’s also his own fault his new style didn’t pay out
2023-06-10 01:50
4 replies
#23
donk | 
Brazil 1_Flippy
imo arT gets a lot of heat unfairly, it has changed recently but i dont think his teammates were that much contrary to his style as everyone make it out to be
2023-06-10 01:57
3 replies
#24
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United States ezpop
yea. i mean they can add fallen, they won't win tournaments with the old guy either. it's just hype, he will occupy awp and hes not good enough. and then they need a new player aside from fallen as well, either keep art as rifler or they need a new one, fallen will replace two roles, igl and safe as awper
2023-06-10 02:00
2 replies
#26
donk | 
Brazil 1_Flippy
as you said, just hype. there are like 20 better options for the 2 vacant spots, also highly doubt that they will come with a strong 5th if +fallen goes further
2023-06-10 02:09
1 reply
#27
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United States ezpop
question is if brazil has good igls.. but i doubt it, else this fallen discussion would not be so hype. Why hype a old igl if you can get a new one that is at least as good as him or better.. right because there is no one i thought biguzera is good but the consistency is not there. fallen isnt succesfull with Imperial either
2023-06-10 02:12
#47
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Brazil Ties4
Fallen is still a tier 1 IGL and support (mostly support, he must be in the top 3 of the world currently)
2023-06-10 04:12
5 replies
#48
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United States ezpop
I dont think Rank 33 is "tier 1"
2023-06-10 06:39
4 replies
#49
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Brazil Ties4
What? I don't know if you're baiting or just really dumb Btw what I said isnt an opinion, its a literal fact.
2023-06-10 17:45
3 replies
#53
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United States ezpop
The literal fact is that he’s very far away from being tier 1, don’t be mad.
2023-06-10 18:29
2 replies
#58
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Brazil Ties4
Im talking about his igling and support, stop being dumb wtf you're baiting 100%
2023-06-10 19:28
1 reply
#62
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United States ezpop
So being informed is being dumb? Okay doesn’t make much sense. I get it you’re flag and mad because you’re a fan. He’s still far far away from being tier 1, tier 1 is rank 10, not rank 20 and not rank 30 and not rank 35. You got it? It’s not very complicated.
2023-06-10 19:37
#51
blackpinklisa | 
Brazil lordwitd
Thats the kind of American that said the same thing when the bucs got Brady lol
2023-06-10 17:47
1 reply
#55
KSCERATO | 
Brazil Anarchy_BR
XD
2023-06-10 18:33
#74
NAF | 
Brazil felix6775
+1 some lusional americam
2023-06-10 20:31
#2
s1mple | 
Netherlands gameover77077
I still don't think that Furia will remove drop, and will dig for themselves a deeper hole
2023-06-10 01:41
4 replies
#11
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Brazil dio_scuro
It was practically confirmed by one of the Furia CEO, -drop and -saffee, they will have a meeting with fallen soon and the fifth player is a mystery.
2023-06-10 01:46
3 replies
#18
s1mple | 
Netherlands gameover77077
nice nice, if they bring in fallen, in my opinion they should maybe keep saffee because he's very good as a rifler at least
2023-06-10 01:51
2 replies
#35
pashaBiceps | 
Brazil danllst
he is very good as a rifler, but then the team would be having to adjust saffe to new positions and functions inside the game that he would take a while to learn. And even then it could go wrong. I think the wiser choice is to kick drop (support/solo) and saffe (awp) and bring skullz/vini/lucaozy and fallen.
2023-06-10 03:14
1 reply
#46
s1mple | 
Netherlands gameover77077
assuming that changes will be made, drop will be 100% out, and even if they kick saffee, there're many other good players, such as the ones you listed. So it's a win-win for furia, all they need to do is actually start making changes
2023-06-10 04:08
#4
Brazil arcblason
I dont like when the best brazilian team decides to bring some random player from the academy.They have the money and the "name" to get players from any brazilian team. The only excuse to bring an academy player is if he is an amazing talent. Not everyone can handle the pressure, brazilian fans get emotional too easily and if the player doesnt have the right mentality he will underperform.
2023-06-10 01:42
3 replies
#9
donk | 
Brazil led2905
yeah and drop definitely wasn't an amazing talent, this was a really really terrible decision by furia
2023-06-10 01:46
1 reply
#16
donk | 
Brazil 1_Flippy
it was a move to shape him from ground up to their needs, given that they had better prospects but afraid of role clash
2023-06-10 01:50
#29
ZywOo | 
Germany friendly_player
why have an academy when you not atleasty try out this players
2023-06-10 02:15
#7
ANa | 
Brazil Criminalcord
They thought that cry baby would become better than Vini because he was younger lmao. They destroyed themselves and truly deserved to achieve absolutely nothing than failure.
2023-06-10 01:45
#10
Xizt | 
United States Enterprisew0w
They weren't that good with VINI and they got even worse with drop, their big mistake was removing HEN1
2023-06-10 01:46
7 replies
#12
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Brazil Elakk
they didn't remove hen1 dude he asked to leave to play with his brother do you really think that FURIA would just remove him? after they dominated north america for a year?
2023-06-10 01:48
3 replies
#17
Xizt | 
United States Enterprisew0w
He played with his brother for a few months, the project fell apart quickly and FURIA made no effort to trying to get him back. And honestly if it collapsed that quickly I doubt the players were really committed to getting that team to work in the first place
2023-06-10 01:50
2 replies
#36
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Brazil MrLucas
no serious org would go after a player that left the team in the middle of the season on a whim, how could they trust him again?
2023-06-10 03:23
1 reply
#44
Xizt | 
United States Enterprisew0w
Its not really about trust, its about being a team that can win events. FURIA has never won a major LAN event despite having a truly superstar rifler in KSCERATO and another elite player in yurrih. If you have players like that on your team, you don't have an excuse for not winning. Hen1 was probably their second best player, and FURIA should be prioritizing getting the best players in the region.
2023-06-10 03:57
#14
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Brazil dio_scuro
they kicked vini hen1 decided to leave.
2023-06-10 01:48
#25
donk | 
Brazil 1_Flippy
he left on his own. HEN1 is the most braindead player when it comes to career decisions, that guy should be doomed to collecting cans for the rest of his life
2023-06-10 02:04
1 reply
#75
NAF | 
Brazil felix6775
They kicked vini
2023-06-10 20:34
#20
ayaya | 
Georgia pandorra
ok but what happened with honda? didn't he drop an ace on his debut game? and i remember him fragging out really good but he missed 1 tournament because of his mom got sick and they removed him from the team? i don't know the full story
2023-06-10 01:53
2 replies
#37
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Brazil MrLucas
They never really intended on keeping him, he was just completing the team while they were negotiating with the actual new 5th player, and honestly he was even worst than drop, people only remember him because he got an ace in his debut against G2, but even on this series he didn't do well overall hltv.org/matches/2346056/g2-vs-furia-bla..
2023-06-10 03:29
#66
malbsMd | 
Argentina makuken
he was average playing in tier 3 SA before joining FURIA main team, he sucked in FURIA playing against tier 1 and 2 and now he's average again in tier 3 SA
2023-06-10 20:01
#28
ZywOo | 
Germany friendly_player
i think -drop -saffe +chelo +fallen could work atleast when fallen can keep this ~1 rating but with cs2 coming idk if thats is even significant
2023-06-10 02:13
#31
nicoodoz | 
United States EwyQwarp
Just get Zevy and Skullz
2023-06-10 02:25
2 replies
#38
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Brazil MrLucas
Zevy has been playing so bad lately (after major/birth of his son) that even granpa Fallen is better
2023-06-10 03:31
1 reply
#45
nicoodoz | 
United States EwyQwarp
well If its cause the birth of his son its not a perm drop off, just give him a month or two
2023-06-10 04:02
#56
KSCERATO | 
Brazil Anarchy_BR
VINI always was a solid player. He did even carried them on Inferno quite a few times (who remember VINFERNO?). Removing him for drop was one of the dumbest decisions they ever made. The other was buying Junior
2023-06-10 18:36
1 reply
#61
puTa | 
Brazil wololo10
exactly, it's not like he was bad at Furia and improved in imperial, he was already so good in Furia
2023-06-10 19:31
#60
jL | 
Denmark Heimdall01
If they ever decide to leave fallen and boltz I hope they will be able somehow to create a brazilian superteam that would be wild.
2023-06-10 19:31
#73
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Other Ca$ino_Mafia666
removing support/igl for 'firepower' time and time again has failed, ence with aleksib bringing in sunny 'firepower' kempi, niko being dissatisfied at the end of 2018 and pushing hard for -karrigan, and several other examples pop into mind most recently with c9 lol
2023-06-10 20:30
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