Thread has been deleted
Last comment
actual sensible new NaVi
 | 
Germany Gabbah 
Okay guys: if - elec and -perfecto actually happens in addition to -npl, what are we thinking about this possibility: + flamez; smooya said he got offers from a top 10 team; NaVi would make that list and it would give them a good entry fragger as an electronic replacement + jerry; CIS IGL, who could give them a systemt that they would stand behind, downside he is russian, but they are removing two russians, so I dont see why adding one back would be an issue the third addition is where it gets hard, as they need a 2nd star behind s1mple; they could go for some ukrainian talent, but picking someone like maybe insani (if his english is good and he is willing to relocate), could make sense. He is way to good for MIBR tbh. jL aswell could be a possiblity as well, but I am open for other options. TL:DR + flamez + Jerry + unknown third, maybe jL or insani
2023-06-18 15:04
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
#3
deko | 
Hungary kushh_
when will you people understand that navi is NOT signing russians?
2023-06-18 15:07
16 replies
#8
 | 
Germany Gabbah
I think this was mostly due to them not wanting to be a "russian" team, because they would have had 3 russians in the team when removing npl. Thats why I said, I dont think its an issue when they are removing two
2023-06-18 15:09
15 replies
#11
deko | 
Hungary kushh_
then whats the point in removing the two? they have been arguably the best in navi recently
2023-06-18 15:09
1 reply
#14
 | 
Germany Gabbah
only s1mple knows that. Apparently they are building around his vision so better ask him that
2023-06-18 15:10
Ots issue when they need to buy it from russian org supported by lukoil:D
2023-06-18 15:10
9 replies
#17
 | 
Germany Gabbah
That depends, if they need to buyout Jerry or if its a free transfer as he is transfer listed. But I dont know that
2023-06-18 15:11
8 replies
You know if you can read. They are transfer listed and keep playong in forze until they are bought.
2023-06-18 15:13
7 replies
#28
 | 
Germany Gabbah
"FORZE have announced that Andrey "⁠Jerry⁠" Mekhryakov and Aleksandr "⁠zorte⁠" Zagodyrenko are open to offers from other organizations. The duo will remain a part of the team and will continue to play matches after the tournament break regardless, the organization has stressed." thats what HLTV said about it. Does not imply a buyout. Could be both for all we know
2023-06-18 15:15
6 replies
what are you smoking:D ”open to offers” also free = no contract = they would not play in forze games anymore
2023-06-18 15:16
4 replies
#43
 | 
Germany Gabbah
you know that there is the possiblity of Jerry just playing till he gets an offer? I mean what does he have to loose by playing? Transfer listed just means that the org is willing to led said player go. That doesnt mean that there is a price attached to that. That could be the case, but it isnt necessary. Benched players are the ones that usually are still under contract/need a buyout, as their contract is still going on for a longer period. But then again we dont know.
2023-06-18 15:24
3 replies
If you think this way you are jus completely wrong and thats okay. He have proven himself he wont play for free. He os TRANSFER listed. It means there is money involved. Forze literally said ”they are not benched and they will play” so if forze have any players to replace them they would be benched atm
2023-06-18 15:34
2 replies
#49
 | 
Germany Gabbah
still getting a salary and having a buyout are two different things only way to find out is contacting forze tho
2023-06-18 15:37
1 reply
Lol
2023-06-18 15:38
hltv.org/news/36487/free-agents-and-tran.. And there it is. Transfer listed, not free agents. Like you just posted…
2023-06-18 15:17
You would be wrong in that. Its about not having russians in their team at all. Even electronic and Perfecto had to jump through few loopholes to get to stay in team last year.
2023-06-18 15:12
2 replies
#26
 | 
Germany Gabbah
and Jerry couldnt do the same? I mean honestly what are their options? IGL's are not smth that you have that many of to begin with. I feel like they need to compromise to some extent
2023-06-18 15:13
1 reply
Obviously its different to be in the team already when shit hits the fan and trying to come to the team from outside. So to your question, Jerry could have not done the same. Options are limited, but the reasoning is there. The compromise seems to be going to international if rumours are to be believed. One of the other choice would be sticking to Ukranian and accepting to not being a contenteder for top team for some while. Of course it would also be an option to stick like this and trying to find ukranian as fifth. I don't know if Visa issues are also part of the problem.
2023-06-18 15:53
They would kick russians to sign a russian igl. It doesnt make sense.
2023-06-18 15:08
1 reply
#12
 | 
Germany Gabbah
I mean they dont really have that many options tbh. If they are really considering aleksib that just shows how limited the pool really is.
2023-06-18 15:10
if theyre kicking electronic and perfecto then theyre not signing jerry
2023-06-18 15:08
Na'vi should just sell S1mple then just jump ship cuz they likely don't have a future in CS if the rumours are true, they're not signing Jerry cuz he's Russian and Na'Vi don't sign Russians cuz according to Na'Vi all Russians support Putin and are just pro war.
2023-06-18 15:09
1 reply
yeah, that's totally why they're not signing axile 🤡
2023-06-18 15:11
I heard they're in talks with zywoo and niko
2023-06-18 15:09
why would they kick russians just to hire russians
2023-06-18 15:11
3 replies
#21
 | 
Germany Gabbah
#8 and #14
2023-06-18 15:11
2 replies
nice numbers but why are you telling me these numbers?
2023-06-18 15:15
1 reply
#30
 | 
Germany Gabbah
because those are the comments that answer your question imo xd
2023-06-18 15:16
i think you dont understand that jerry plays in forze and he needs to be bought out there. Forze is suppoerted by lukoil, who is russian and they will never give money to russia who is attacking to ukraine atm
2023-06-18 15:11
1 reply
#22
 | 
Germany Gabbah
2023-06-18 15:12
#27
 | 
Finland HARD4ENCE
Jerry is a fraud. Legit most overrated trash. I don't even consider him an igl.
2023-06-18 15:14
2 replies
#33
 | 
Germany Gabbah
I wanna know your reasoning for that tbh
2023-06-18 15:16
1 reply
#54
 | 
Finland HARD4ENCE
Never for ONCE seen cohesive and coordinated teamplay from ForZe. Always messed up pug style/MM CS at pro level. People peeking one by one and dying, no trading, no solid gameplan, nothing.
2023-06-18 17:08
Nothing against Jerry and Russians, but I think they will not want to pay for player in Russian org. There is rumor that they are trying aleksib, probably will also try Nexa if he is not already decided for some team. flameZ - is probably one of the best choice, because he will be cheap or free in few months. frozen - could be nice too, but I dont think they will spend that much for him and even if they want to, they would probably offer lower wage hobbit - there is small chance that he will be benched, and could be pretty nice as supportish player dycha - I think his contract will end at the start of 2024 NAF - ??? before there were some rumours that he is thinking about leaving Liquid and join EU team mezii - well fnatic is rebuilding and he is staying, but there should be some chance to buy him out es3tag - not worst choice if they need support
2023-06-18 15:20
5 replies
#37
 | 
Germany Gabbah
no way they could afford frozen hobbit I could see but I doubt he is leaving c9 dycha also prob wont leave Ence as they just won a tourney NAF could be, idk if he would join the CIS shitfest tho mezii is locked in fnatic according to smooya but who knows really
2023-06-18 15:19
4 replies
if hobbit not leaving where do u think elec and perfecto would go
2023-06-18 15:24
3 replies
#44
 | 
Germany Gabbah
elec instead of nafany maybe? perfecto I dont know if he is a necessary upgrade to hobbit atm, but for buster could be a good move
2023-06-18 15:25
2 replies
its abit too bold to sign elec on igl role considering he hasnt proven to be capable igl yet, especially without blade
2023-06-18 15:30
1 reply
#46
 | 
Germany Gabbah
anything is better then nafany atm ngl C9 has two top 5 players in the world, but dont even make playoffs concistently.
2023-06-18 15:34
nothing sensible elec is one of the best riflers around - he is pretty much the most consistent player on the team kicking him is just plain dumb
2023-06-18 15:16
1 reply
#35
 | 
Germany Gabbah
I mean I agree but this thread was made on the assumption that he is getting removed. I also think removing him is beyond stupid
2023-06-18 15:17
Jerry is ruski
2023-06-18 15:20
if navi indeed kick russians it means chance of them signing jerry is 0%
2023-06-18 15:23
Jerry is overrated af
2023-06-18 15:48
#53
 | 
United Kingdom Kra1ven
Jerry is braindead, he threw major with that inferno ct side push
2023-06-18 15:53
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.
Now playing
Thumbnail for stream
Russia
EPL
4201 viewers
Top streams
All(27)
Casters(17)
Streamers(7)
Organizers(3)
Russia
EPL
(4201)
Other
EPL
(4111)
United States
Stewie2k
(1816)
Brazil
gaules
(1675)
France
kennyS
(792)
United Kingdom
ESL TV
(491)
Sweden
GeT_RiGhT
(459)
United Kingdom
ESL TV B (YouTube)
(454)
Mongolia
MESA (YouTube)
(414)
Germany
zonixx
(313)
Denmark
wonderbai
(173)
Turkey
ROOT
(162)
Portugal
mucha
(160)
Ukraine
yxo7
(140)
Other
TaZ
(139)
Brazil
Apoka
(124)
Brazil
mch
(120)
United States
Laski
(119)
Brazil
nak
(106)
Brazil
bt0
(87)
United States
JoJo
(73)
Australia
viridian
(60)
Other
Vikingz_Odin
(37)
South Africa
HenricoM
(29)
Russia
watchfulTV
(24)
United Kingdom
Pinnacle Esports (YouTube)
(4)
Brazil
BTSBrasilFPS
(4)