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"AWP OP" USERS COME
junior | 
American Samoa Based_Furry 
I'm talking about the rational non silver 3 ones that think the awp is OP/boring instead of the people that want it removed What do you think of this change Roll back awp to 2014 movement speed but keep the 5 bullet limit, make awp 5000$ and remove double zoom Which would make the awp way more dynamic and aggressive
2023-06-28 08:17
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Solid thought
2023-06-28 08:20
1st tier zoom better anyway
2023-06-28 08:32
2 replies
#38
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Taiwan MrGeorge
+1
2023-06-28 14:03
+1
2023-06-28 20:54
2023-06-28 08:34
1 reply
Looks appetizing. But we more like pancakes. imgur.com/a/xqyIxjv
2023-06-28 20:56
The 2nd zoom is only really useful for the average player (which is at silver to dmg)
2023-06-28 08:35
20 replies
I've seen a lot of pros use the double zoom, especially on spots like Nuke outside
2023-06-28 09:46
2 replies
Yeah but wouldnt take much away from awpers
2023-06-28 10:03
1 reply
+1
2023-06-28 13:29
#31
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United States Hiro26
watch some pro cs.
2023-06-28 13:48
12 replies
bewildering argument, then why is 1st zoom used way more than 2nd?
2023-06-28 18:33
11 replies
2nd zoom is situational sure, but it's not without its uses
2023-06-28 19:25
1 reply
yes but that means it wouldnt take much from awpers, rather than taking bullets or messing with firerate
2023-06-29 05:25
#63
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United States Hiro26
used less =/= not useful
2023-06-28 21:45
6 replies
I never said it wasnt useful, if you had any comprehension skills you would have realised that I said it wouldnt take much away from higher skilled awpers, since they most of the time use the 1st zoom
2023-06-29 05:26
5 replies
#104
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United States Hiro26
"The 2nd zoom is only really useful for the average player" implies it is not really useful for pros.
2023-06-29 12:03
4 replies
Yeah now read your comment again and again (hint: adverb)
2023-06-29 12:19
3 replies
#106
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United States Hiro26
xd it's the funniest when stupid kids like you attempt to come off as smart and cool by copying phrases they saw online
2023-06-29 12:29
2 replies
its funny when old weirdos try to come off as somewhat relevant by going against their own values of being calm and rational by avoiding the other persons valid argument
2023-06-29 17:00
1 reply
#109
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United States Hiro26
sigh really adverb 1. in actual fact, as opposed to what is said or imagined to be true or possible. which means, saying "The 2nd zoom is only really useful for the average player" is equivalent to saying "2nd zoom is only useful for the average player", which implies, "2nd zoom is not useful for pros".
2023-06-29 18:56
#96
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Ukraine rexyyCSGO
kk will explain it to you: cuz you have bigger fov with first zoom but in situations when you have 1 angle to hold second zoom is better to catch enemy that might jiggle/shoulder peek
2023-06-29 02:38
1 reply
yes but that means it wouldnt take much from awpers, rather than taking bullets or messing with firerate
2023-06-29 05:26
you obviously dont watch pro cs or this is complete bait, 2nd zoom is as useful as 1st zoom. Theres multiple instances of double zoom being better than single zoom, comical.
2023-06-28 14:07
3 replies
"2nd zoom is as useful as 1st zoom" good argument since 2nd zoom is used just as often absolutely, for sure, of course
2023-06-28 18:32
2 replies
you dont watch games if you come to that conclusion, just because you dont see awpers in your level 7 lobbies use 2nd zoom because theyre brain dead doesnt mean pros dont use it. Jungle to palace (double zoom) balcony to deep appts on mirage (double zoom), t steps to brackets on inferno (double zoom) and thats just off the top of my head. Please take time to actually learn what you are talking about
2023-06-28 19:21
1 reply
it still wouldnt take much from awpers, rather than taking bullets or messing with firerate
2023-06-29 05:27
#5
NiKo | 
Brazil Nero7
awp is fine, Deagle is the shit that tilts me up, random lvls 8-9 one tapping me on first bullet while running from distance, smh
2023-06-28 08:38
32 replies
Skill issue
2023-06-28 08:54
"while running" It's called counter strafing my dude, it's csgo and it looks like they are moving when they really don't.
2023-06-28 09:49
30 replies
#19
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
perfect counter strafing is basically just running anyways because you lose almost no momentum but gain the accuracy. So yeah, getting one tapped by people running.
2023-06-28 10:21
29 replies
Lvl 3 spotted
2023-06-28 13:27
26 replies
#26
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I have no issues with counter strafing. Name one thing I said that was wrong.
2023-06-28 13:29
25 replies
#32
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United States Hiro26
the difference between running and counter strafing.
2023-06-28 13:50
24 replies
#35
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I've played cs since 2008, I obviously know there is a difference. one is luck one is skill. But on the recieving end if done PERFECTLY like I said in the first sentence, it feels the exact same. And thats what #5 was refering to. (I assume, im not in his mind)
2023-06-28 13:57
23 replies
Imagine playing cs since 2008 and still being bot That's longer than I am alive
2023-06-28 18:06
22 replies
Wtf csgo 18+ game )
2023-06-28 18:30
3 replies
*16+ in germany at least
2023-06-28 19:25
2 replies
still illegal to play gestapo will arrest u soon
2023-06-28 20:50
1 reply
pls no(((
2023-06-29 00:00
#70
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Hungary jadyn_x
is it supposed to be a flex?
2023-06-29 00:03
1 reply
flexing that he's playing cs longer than i am alive? yes, that's definitely a flex.
2023-06-29 00:18
#71
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
In a 1v1 I win 16-0
2023-06-29 00:18
15 replies
yes, definitely
2023-06-29 00:19
1 reply
#76
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
lmao
2023-06-29 00:19
#75
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Hungary jadyn_x
yo i aint wanna be rude but pls play 1v1 aganist me you are my favourite hltv user
2023-06-29 00:19
12 replies
#77
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Nah I barely play cs anyone in reality I would get rekt
2023-06-29 00:20
11 replies
#78
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Hungary jadyn_x
i have played like 20 hours in this year no excuses drop me steam link
2023-06-29 00:21
10 replies
#79
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Idk if I want to give my steam to hltv sorry
2023-06-29 00:21
9 replies
#80
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Hungary jadyn_x
2023-06-29 00:22
8 replies
#81
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
ok added
2023-06-29 00:23
7 replies
#82
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Hungary jadyn_x
bro what is your name I have 8 pending friend requests or prof pic
2023-06-29 00:40
6 replies
#83
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
imgur.com/a/sWyuBWS Ig I didnt add you EDIT: every time I click it says error. Rip
2023-06-29 00:43
5 replies
#84
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Hungary jadyn_x
2023-06-29 00:44
4 replies
#85
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
lol wtf man
2023-06-29 00:44
1 reply
#87
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Hungary jadyn_x
back in 2018-2021 when HvH reached it's peak again i was buying a ton of accounts and kept 3 of them. I mean these 3 are not banned xd The HvH is now kinda dead and community got brutally cringe
2023-06-29 00:49
#86
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I added the lvl 14 account name should be obvious
2023-06-29 00:45
1 reply
#103
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Denmark Not_Dane
This is so wholesome HLTV interaction :) Let me know how the game went
2023-06-29 11:39
#89
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Belarus Ozymandius
bro…. get off the crack pipe
2023-06-29 00:57
1 reply
#90
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
ahaha no.
2023-06-29 01:03
the only reason awping is boring is bc you can just hold an angle and press m1 so ez to pad stats. passive awpers are cringe
2023-06-28 08:44
7 replies
if only a professional team could utilise it by focusing on the awp play. They would win all majors in a row!!!
2023-06-28 09:03
1 reply
Okay peak astralis.
2023-06-28 13:30
#23
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United Kingdom novaseer
The skill comes from knowing what angles to hold, and at what time. If a passive AWPer isn't there for a take, they do nothing. If an AWPer is in the right place, but at the wrong angle or timing, they'll be caught out by utility or a peek from an unexpected place. The best AWPers aren't the best AWPers just because they're flashy, they're the best AWPers because they're damn near omnipresent, regardless of how many flicks they hit.
2023-06-28 13:25
4 replies
yes i know it’s just boring
2023-06-28 13:50
1 reply
skill issue tbh
2023-06-28 16:10
#36
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England BobDude65
+1 this guy knows what he's talking about
2023-06-28 13:58
thank you wish jonty for the clarification
2023-06-28 14:19
imo getting back the old movement is a huge buff and the other nerfs you said arent so much of a nerf to counter the movement. AWPers would just buy it with little util. You could make small aggressive plays with the awp while your teammates have your back to trade you if needed. it would buff great aggressive skillfull awpers that have a great team around them so overall it would be more of a buff than net 0.
2023-06-28 09:04
1 reply
+1, when awp totally needs a nerf
2023-06-28 09:19
#11
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Brazil SaroyBR
Then lets remove awp and set scout to deal 70 damage with full kevlar and helmet, 90 with kevlar and 100 without any armor. Like this would be most 2 shots to kill a enemy anyway, however you would have advantage of 1 shot if no armor or helmet and headshot would be always a instakill and maybe nerf a bit the scout to have like 5 bullets? xD I dunno there are many way to improve the idea of awp being nerfed? xD
2023-06-28 09:44
Increase the time between bullets. Currently it is too easy to get 2-3 quick frags
2023-06-28 09:47
9 replies
#14
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United States Virgin Islands bazovik
^ this
2023-06-28 09:48
#21
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1 only thing I hate about fighting awpers is when they kill my teammate I dry peak to try and trade and then they just instantly quickscope kill me before I even get around the corner. Nothing tilts me more than that & getting killed thru smokes
2023-06-28 10:23
5 replies
Yet when I pick up the gun no quick scopes ever hit.
2023-06-28 14:10
3 replies
#42
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
U sound like my friend who always complains because s1mple hits quickscopes and he doesnt. You gotta do 2 things 1. tap crouch right before you tap m1 2. aim as center mass as possible because quickscopes arent accurate if you do both you have like 90% chance to hit or im just really lucky I dont awp much because its boring & im better on a rifle but I feel like I always hit quickscopes when I go for them also noscopes with scout are just as easy to hit
2023-06-28 14:13
2 replies
Scout=Sniper TF2 gun
2023-06-28 14:20
1 reply
#74
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Scout = scattergun Jokes aside you're right
2023-06-29 00:19
this is dependent on your spacing tbh, if you swung right after your mate you'd probably have a guaranteed trade
2023-06-28 19:29
+1 this, thats why Operator in valulrant is actually balanced (good but not overpowered)
2023-06-28 10:26
#45
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Great suggestion but then I fear that the AWP would be too restricted. :D AWP'ers should be allowed to get multi-frags if they are amazing with the weapon, at that point they deserve it. ^^
2023-06-28 14:16
2014 movement on AWP was so broken. I hate AWP abusers especially in pugs, but honestly csgo is about as balanced now as it's been ever.
2023-06-28 10:06
nobody uses double scope tho huge buff tbh
2023-06-28 10:18
I've been thinking about slower scope stabilization, meaning it takes longer for your shot to be fully accurate after you scope It would nerf aggressive AWPing overall and especially nerf AWPers peeking
2023-06-28 10:21
only thing I would change about the awp, is increasing the time from when you stop moving, to when the shot will be 100% accurate. Stops you dying in first 2 frames that someone peeks a corner
2023-06-28 13:36
balanced weapon but should cost more.. 6k would be pretty good that leads to more saving but ewould still be good
2023-06-28 13:44
Nobody uses double zoom...with 5 bullets, awp is good as it's.
2023-06-28 13:46
#34
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United Kingdom zbzb
AWP shots to the arms/hands shouldn't kill, they should do the same damage as being shot in the leg. everything else should stay unchanged
2023-06-28 13:52
#37
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United States SMOKEBREAK
what i noticed was all the good awp-users/average awper started switching to Scout and are enjoying that buttery smooth slide and swipe headshot of the scout. only bots try to awp these days
2023-06-28 14:03
wtf is your suggestion it's a sniper rifle ffs, why make it even more close range and pretty much even more op
2023-06-28 14:09
#43
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I say make the AWP exactly like 1.6 for one whole year. Then users will see what an OP AWP actually looks like.
2023-06-28 14:14
1 reply
#53
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Germany Manana
going full JohnnyR with 56 kills and 7 Deaths
2023-06-28 18:41
i think the awp is good as it is rn. it doesnt need to be fixed.
2023-06-28 14:15
Just remove it pls most braindead weapon in the game and people using it think they are good for having 23 avg... bro u are awping u should have 27 avg otherwise u are a bot
2023-06-28 19:24
Please tell me this is bait
2023-06-28 19:28
Literally the greatest CS player and main AWP abuser said the AWP is the easiest and strongest weapon /case closed
2023-06-28 21:46
Just make it so you need to be 0% movement speed to accurately shoot. I'm really sick of holding angles and awpers just peeking and killing me instantly. I need an insta headshot (which might not be possible if they crouch peek) while they need to hit my big ass model in the body to kill. Doing this you can revert the gun to 10 bullets.
2023-06-28 21:51
3 replies
this or add a delay before you're zoomed in to remove peek+quickscope
2023-06-28 21:54
2 replies
This is so ridiculous that even when you are holding an angle with an awp, you are still going to lose to an awp peeking because of peekers advantage. It shows how unbalanced this is.
2023-06-28 21:56
1 reply
unless he's crouching into your angle^^
2023-06-28 21:59
literally just make it a bit more expensive and maybe slightly increase the delay between shots the fact they are removing bhopping from cs2 already makes awpers' lives miserable because now moving around maps will be a lot harder
2023-06-29 00:56
3 replies
#92
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Poland BAN_ANIME
THEY ARE REMOVING WHAT
2023-06-29 02:08
2 replies
you can't bhop in cs2
2023-06-29 02:13
1 reply
#95
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Poland BAN_ANIME
i am actually crying
2023-06-29 02:22
My take is essentially: -Sure 5k is fine although I don't think the save meta is good for anyone, less enjoyable to play and watch. I really want to see the teams attempt more retakes. The capitulations we see nowadays are just ridiculous, especially on inferno -back to 10 bulllets -make it unable to shoot unless you're standing still. -remove no-scopes -improve quick-scopes so that they get fully accurate. I want to eliminate rng as much as possible to make the gun truly more difficult to master but if you put in enough hours, you can make wonders with it.
2023-06-29 02:04
#93
ropz | 
France Vsiion
Alternate solution : use flash and get good.
2023-06-29 02:09
lmfao what
2023-06-29 04:34
what kind of bots are here on hltv asking for awp nerf? the gun needs a buff lmao. its insane that valve nerfed it to 5 bullets just because gold novas on hltv cry when they dry peek an awp.
2023-06-29 05:03
just make it impossible to shoot without the scope and we stop with those newbies spamming with a awp, and nerf crab walk+awp
2023-06-29 17:06
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