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Okay srsly I am interested about what other people think about Germany, as I dont like this country very much and dont really identify as "german" (different discussion entirely on why there is no real german, only a mix of so many different cultures). And the further radicalization of our politics is also smth I am very skeptical about, as I would consider myself left leaning, but definitely not alligning with the nonsense that most of our left parties put out.
So yeah hit me
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not overly no. Germany was never great to begin with. We always where a mix of so many cultures that there is no "national identity" really. I mean everything after Wilhelm I. pretty much decedent into shit and only since the 90s we are a unified state again so not much to have identity in ngl
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lol ok
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Well what did we have? Sure our time under Wilhem I. was good as we rose to an international powerhouse under a finally united Germany, only for Wilhelm II to destroy all the bridges that Bismarck build and launch us into a World War. The Weimarer Republic after that was short lived to begin with and plagued with political infighting and massive economic issues. Then Hitler happend and after that we where seperated for 45 years. Idk what is so great about all of this.
Furthermore we have so many different sub cultures and dialects that you can hardly find a universal german culture. Our national identity and unity always came from the will to conquer or our military pride. Idk why we should be proud about that ngl
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I think you're thinking about this the wrong way round. The Kaiserreich, the Weimar Republic, the HRE, the Grossdeutsches Reich and the Anschluss were all both formative of, and a response to, a sense of "Germanness" that extended beyond regional and national borders. The 'Pangermanismus' in the 19th C tapped in to it, and the reunification is the latest outworking of it.
Also, "our national identity and unity always came from the will to conquer or our military pride" is basically only true if you're from Preussen, and even then was actually much more than just military might but also a sense of cultural supremacy.
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Prussia was the one to unite modern Germany tho. Thats also what I am saying with the time to develop this national idea, was never given, as we changed way too quickly for that to happen. Compare that for example your country (if you arent fakeflagging), where you have centuries of history and a mostly unchanged core teritory. Germany in the modern sense only really came into being in the 1870s.
That is the core issue we run into when looking at Germany and its history: change, and that quickly and massive. You go from a Monarchy, to a Democracy into a dictatorship and that rapidly and shortly after the countries existence. Where would you imagine a national unity developing from that?
The HRI also wasnt a unified country, as it retained all the small provinces of the lords and kings. Going into this would go beyond what I can write in an HLTV comment though XD
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HRE was a great and unique state. A union of big and small provinces, ruled by the bishops, dukes and counts, free cities, imperial abbeys etc. With a complex system of organization of Reichstag and decision making. And all of these were united by the similar language and culture (including political culture). I don't understand why are you whining about your country history
Yes, then go ask your grandma, or go to a hospital and ask an old German what Germany was like before.
national identity is corny af, we are all humans
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ong, its us against aliens
+1, is like doin cringe roleplay
nice when i was there, everyone smokes tho but that goes the same for france, italy and every country below denmark.
hamburg and cologne was nice when i visited, went to some random small town called weimar. idk seems pretty chill and didn't get robbed (i'll never forget belgium rat nation).
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why’d you even go to belgium in first place😭
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antwerp major final, it was sick but then train station was closed and some people robbed me sitting alone at a bench 2am waiting for my train. Couldn't do anything really.
mom wasn't to happy either first time at 17 traveling alone and coming home without my phone and wallet lmao. also couldn't contact anyone and no money since card was in my wallet. Some homeless bloke saw it and gave me some ciggarettes which is what i survived on for the last 15h.
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+1. That is an experience you will never forget.
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way more people here vape or use pouches.
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not anymore, especially since those weird rappers advertize their vaping shit
nice, hamburg and cologne are good cities.
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hamburg yes, cologne only from 4.-6. august 2023
"Belgium rat nation". I bet those who robbed you were pure native Belgians.
i've been to Germany in business trips few times 11 years ago, liked it very much, though it always surprised me how you guys manage to wake up so early and end up working at like 16:00 or smth
but i was traveling mostly between small villages with 20k population
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also it was weird watching germans eat only sandwitches during lunches on work, but when i tried it myself i noticed these sandwitches are great
but it was not "office" situation, usually i was around industrial workers, if you understand what i mean cuz i have no idea how to explain it correctly on english (i worked on industrial facilities, let's say it that way)
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Magnitudes better than the UK and France
Boring food and personalities
Nice cities and efficiency. I went to Dusseldorf(?) when I was young and remember it was cool
Engineering is overrated since WW2 innovations. There isn’t a single sector today that they lead in. Nice cars though.
8/10
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I can answer for him.
American car Tesla leads in industry innovation, worth more than the next 10 car companies combined
Japanese cars are more reliable
Chinese car exports are crushing Germany.
German cars are very unreliable but nice to drive, other car manufacturers aim for durability and innovation.
solid 5/10
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Of course Germany has many flaws, especially compared to many smaller industrialized nations.
The raging bureaucracy bring one of the best (or worst) examples.
But I think many Germans fail to see that we are still one of the greatest countries to live in, with a solid public health system, good average wages and politics that are still very civil compared to others countries.
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it's impressive how good germany is considering your history and the division between the west and the east, and your population of 83 million. it's expected from Nordic countries to be better because of less people and less troubles in general but Germany is damn close to Nordic standards
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Is it difficult to live as a refugee here?
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Ofc everyone gets the permission to live here. I wasnt trying to insult you haha
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Yeah, sure mate (I didn't think about you in that way) :) I mean I have bluecard, not like refugee status, so it's hard to tell. A lot of people here are women, they get some help in terms of money and lang courses as far as I know. If you have some kind of income then you're not getting help I guess but you have permission to stay here at least until the war ends
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bluecard? In germany we dont have a bluecard. You probably mean like a aufenthaltstitel?
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sorry i just googled it. bluecard is simmiliar to the aufenthaltstitel.
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you plan to stay here for a longer time?
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Sounds cool :) Which city you live in?
And yeah, learning a language while working fulltime is rough, but its always good to know the local language. Makes it easier to get around, to get to know new people and so on.
But english will get you pretty far in germany aswell as more and more people are able to speak it (especially younger people of course).
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Ahh yeah, Berlin is easy if you speak english haha :D
Yeah understandable. Even many germans struggle with understanding some of those documents haha
Nice to hear that you enjoy it though and good luck with learning the language and whatever other plans you have!
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Yes, but with some kind of requirements. Here you go:
auswaertiges-amt.de/en/visa-service/buer..
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nice, i am happy for you
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Like 6/10, nothing particularly interesting about Germany but it's good to see support that Germany is showing to Ukraine
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Immigration is a huge part of our economy and our success.
Does it come with problems, sure, but now we at least do a proper job on intigrating immigrants in our society, which is the most important part.
Thats why we should appreciate immigration instead of acting like its a huge problem.
No immigration would make germany go downhill extremely quick.
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Thats just not true. When germany wasnt quiet germany yet, there was alot immigration between the different regions and neighbouring countries. And that never stopped really at any point. The only times where numbers where somewhat low was during world wars ofc.
Even during the big emmigration wave around 100 years ago, there was just as many immigrants arriving here.
Germany was never a huge success until the boom after WW2. Always riddled with many issues (which was the reason why people mass emmigrated, literally millions leaving the country).
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Okay maybe you're not too bright or maybe you're intentionally ignoring my point, either way historic immigration is not what I'm talking about. Osmosis immigration from neighboring countries isn't a problem, that's European history in a nutshell and that's obviously not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about immigration policy circa 2012-present, that's about 10 years. In the past 10 years more people have come into your country from outside of Europe than had come since Germany was first called Germany. If you think that's okay and normal you and I will never see eye to eye.
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People said the same about turkish immigrants and "gastarbeiter" 30 years ago and it resulted is shittons of violence against them.
And we did a miserable job in intigrating them.
Also I fully agree with our politics regarding refugees. We were actively engaged in warzones where refugees came from and even if we werent directly there with soldiers, we sold the participants weapons. Im pro Humanitarianism.
I would go on, but someone just joined my voice channel and Id rather talk with that person :D
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I don't need to Google shit, you are clearly in over your head if you think I need to.
Do your best to explain the Holy Roman Empire, Prussia, the German Empire and Germany being global leaders in military, cultural, scientific and industrial might for centuries before 1940. Go on, just give it a shot, try to do your best to weasel your way out of a corner defending your argument.
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Of course it could be worse Im not saying that, but I personally dont feel attached to my country that is all I was trying to say here, reason why I wouldnt rate it highly.
Does that make Germany a bad country? absolutly not. It is still better then most countries in the world, but am I just expressing how I think the lack of a singular culture is smth that I miss. I feel more attached to the city I live in, as it resembles my culture a lot more.
Hope this clears it up!
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go live in another country and you'll see what you'll miss.
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Im not mad, I am just stating facts.
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It's just too much nonsene you wrote in those posts, would take too much time and effort to break it down.
Just go live somewhere else and you will see the difference you can not see now.
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Then dont say you are "just stating facts."? As you clearly are not.
Also like I explained in the comment above, I dont hate Germany. I just dont feel any attachment to it. How is that so hard to understand? I even acknowledged that Germany is still one of the best places to life in the world so I really dont get what you are on about.
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The fact: You'll see what you're gonna miss if you live somewhere else. Then you'll see what German culture is.
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I even explained that: there is no german culture; you have the individual states that have way more influence about your culture then the country of Germany. Would I miss Berlins culture? absolutly! but it is vastly different then for example Hamburg or Cologne would be.
That is my whole argument. That there is really nothing uniting us except for our language and even that varries a lot from state to state.
If you look at Germanys history you also see why this is: we where smaller provinces for so long, that the national identity could never really form. You had too many disruptions through territories being taken from us, that this united german idenity could never really develop. Even our unification by Bismarck happend through wars and not through general consent. You can still make the case that Austria and other parts of our surrounding countries could be just new german states, as the culture and language is similar enough to the rest that already are part of Germany. This is exactly the issue with defining a "german culture"; all definitions you may put up, either include not all german states, or include states that are not part of Germany.
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Ofc there is German culture. German music, architecture, language (even if there are dialects), philosophy,...
Just for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Germany
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German music varies vastly from state to state, architecture is defined by visual styles throughout history if we disregard practical buildings such as simple living quarters, such as Bauhaus, Gothic and similar and not us as Germans (Gothic for example can be found in France too). And even then there are huge similarities to swiss buildings and Austrian buildings and some Polish cities. There is german language outside of Germany too, so are they part of the German national culture too? if so how does that play into our national idea?
Philosophy, is a point I am not familiar enough with to make an argument about
You see where I am going with this? German culture does not end at Germany's physical borders and we also dont have THE german culture every state abides by, which is exactly my argument. German culture in its nature is so diverse, that you cant simplify it, even if you try really really hard. I mean just name me one example of "german architecture" that you can only find in Germany and not only in a specific state.
Our "national culture" comes from hand picked parts from our states that foreigners found interesting. I mean a lot of people think that Germany is basicly Bavaria, only because that part is better known for its culuture then Brandenburg for example. While our diversity is our strengh, it also is our weakness as like you can see, it makes "being german" a feeling that can transcend state borders. Other states like the US or so really dont have this. The US culture ends mostly with its countries borders, as both Mexico and Canada both employ their own cultures.
Again im not trying to make you feel bad for believing in a german culture and being proud of it, I just want to show you how that really is a mythos that at one point developed. Every German imo has his own definition of what german culture is and how it should be defined. Of course some may share similar visions, but you have so many different believes that it is hard to find a common narative that is accepted in every state.
The article kinda prooves my point ngl, disregarding how wikipedia is mediocre at best when discussing in deph things:
even the wiki states how diverse the culture is, only placing Germany in its modern borders, while still taking examples from parts of Germany that no longer are part of it, agreeing with my argument. Furthermore in the introduction, it even references multible germanic tribes, so even the origin has its roots in diversity, meaning even there is no real "one" culture.
All main aspect of our culture are discriped as "diverse" and "plural" meaning that there is no single one. which is exactly what I have been saying this whole time XD
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No country has a real "one" culture then.
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Not really true. England for example (if you look at the wikipedia article aswell lol), is very monotone (not in a bad way) as you for a long time had a unified empire, and a singular monarch, leading to way less diversity. France falls into a similar place. I really dont feel like making another long and detailed post as you seemingly dont read/choose to ignore it anyways, so have a good night.
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England? Yeah sure. Ask Londoners what they think of people from Manchester, they're a mix of Anglo-Saxons and Normans, with Celtic influences. Just mixed as well.
France is similar, northen France and southern France are quite different. Strasbourg has heavy German influence while the west has Spanish influence. The cities look very different.
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Next time you make an account, please name it Antonoglu and become turco italo russo german
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Politics is a lot worse than a 6/10
nature i agree
people depends on which city you are staying
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I was done with this thread, as I dont feel like arguing about this any more then I already have, but you clearly are commited, going by the spamm of comments, so I am willing to give you are response too:
"Hochdeutsch" or "Standard German" is a concept that finds its roots in the 1800s to find a way of common exchange between all german speaking provinces. This is comparetivly late when compared to other states, like England, France etc. This goes in line with Germany as a whole, as it is, like explained a lot here, a very young state.
What does that mean though? Well finding a common language this late, combined with the ever changing borders of Germany over the years, regional dialects still hold high relevance and are often spoken over "Hochdeutsch" in the public, especially under the older folk. This results imo in a very weird dynamic between states, as some parts (parts of bavaria come to mind here), straight up refuse to use Hochdeutsch often, at least when being spoken too. So there goes that common ground. This is exactly what I mean when I say there is a lack of unified national thought. Our borders and ideals have changed so much in so little time, that there was no time to establish a base of some sort. I have yet to find someone, that tells me a part of german culture which you can find in any state, that isnt religion.
But I wont respond to this anymore, as I feel like I have made my point pretty clear. Have a good day
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>> I have yet to find someone, that tells me a part of german culture which you can find in any state, that isnt religion.
>>> german language. bavarian language is german just like swabian, saxon or any other german dialect. every other european country also has strong regional dialects. and then another cultural thing found all over germany: bratwurst. german culture at its finest.
you are lost.
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you didnt read at all what I just said did you in regards to language?
Bratwust you wont find at all in the upper parts of Germany but nice try. Its very much a southern thing. You are prooving my point. Berlin for example is more of a Currywurst Area, while stuff like Kiel is just Fisch and less meat in general.
You wanna try again?
Edit: dont try again. It doesnt matter as you have shown how small your reading comprehension is, that I really dont wanna bother anymore.
Im proud of my nation and im proud to be a german
Germany for me is a 10/10
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Yeah Dresden is nice, but it was much more beautiful before it got bombed into oblivion.
youtube.com/watch?v=5zr1LdmyiEo
0/8 both germany and this thread
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wasn't u the guy who talked badly about HRE?
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no? check my comments
I was once in cologne and the only hot girls were russian. Very depressing place tbh.
5/10.
I think we are slowly losing our personality as germans due to the immigrants especially those from the Middle East. I know that france/uk are also dealing with this problem but its unacceptable that we need to pay so many taxes for people who come from low quälity living states and cannot adapt.
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AfD on the rise, the only hope in that regard, as sad as it is.
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Indeed
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Oh they do have solutions. Like actually bringing those migrants back who have no right to be here and not letting everyone in.
Immigration in no way harms the personality or culture of a country. They are only a scapegoat. Immigrants bring culture, labor and great food but this is not a bad thing unless you are an elitist old person who doesn't want to share the fortune you inherited from Hugo Boss or Bayer...
If you are a young worker, you probably have more in common with many of these immigrants than these millionaires and billionaires.
Also, without immigrants there would be no doner kebab
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HAHAHA
Without immigration there would be no increase of knife attacks, sexual assaults (immigrants from muslim countries massively overrepresented) and no brawls in many public swimming pools.
Of course they harm the country in some ways.
Your are invited to spend the summer here, spend some quality time in berlins swimming pools or in many areas at night. You will change your mind quickly as in many big cities there are mostly muslim clans that control certain areas completley where even police isnt going anymore because it is too dangerous to go there. I love different culture and i do not dislike anyone who comes here to make a living and doesnt harm others no matter what his background is. There are however a lot of those immigrants who dont want to make a living and want to harm people, because of religion or because they are frustrated or because they simply dont know how to behave. Those individuals must be deported from the country or there will be no hope of a good future for this country. Iam all about helping people in need but whats happening currently must not be tolerated, not by the government or by the people living here. Unfourtunatley our politicians are completley out of touch with the usual citizen and have no clue how it is to live in above described areas nor do they have to deal with the consequences. They will have to deal with the AFD in the future though because they messed up big time back in 2015 when they let everyone in unechecked and refused to punish missbehaviour such as stealing, raping, killing and so on appropriatley or even deporting certain individuals that made it very clear that they are not planning to integrate in any way.
i live in germany its ok better then in siberia because more many and better flat/house. in my village in siberia we dont have wather at the house we need to walk every morning 5km to get wather from bottles because there is only one little shop or pump it out of the ground. so if you compare this with germany then germany is very nice.
go to gym
hard working, very based. government is kinda shit tho.
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Andrew tate said germany was okay before WW2? XD
What an absolute idiot. He must be trolling and I think his whole idea is to say the most stupid shit he can come up with.
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The DDDD stand for the result he got doing the entry test for elementary school
Nt tho
8/10, went pretty downhill the past years, especially from 2015 and onwards.
btw ofc germany has a cultural identity. architecture, philosophy, literature are only a few very big fields.
Germania very gut country, but don't eat too much bratwurst
To live in Germany must be 7 or 8/10, I guess.
To visit then, I only went to Bavaria, and it was very good. Nature is amazing, food isn't too bad, castles and churches are lovely. Close to 10/10
I'd rather not create the same thread over France lol
Idk im from Franconia so Neither German nor Bavarian. I would give the whole thing a 8/10. :P
With East Germany ranking lower for obvious Reason (besides Leipzig maybe). I think we struggle with Identity because of Lokalpatriotismus but that isnt something bad because it keeps the countrys regions interesting.
Also the City outside of Franconia i'd rate the highest is Hamburg.
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Good industry and economy and it is important.
Quite safe (for now?), efficient infrastructures.
People are not very funny, quite strict atmosphere (some old people act like security cameras lmao).
Culture is good but not on France/Italy tier, maybe a lack of modern popular culture and identity (for example German rap is years after US/French/UK)
I don't know why you stopped nuclear energy to go for f*cling coal, biggest mistake recently, so I guess some clown politicians but these are everywhere
When I lived in Dusseldorf I had a 7/8 time, but I know it is quite a rich city and there are so many different local cultures so I won't give a grade for all the country
Cold but I like football environment.
Probs better than 98% of countries so 10/10
I have been in Berlin in March , weather was quite crap, but place seems to be decent, ffs prices are much more friendlier than in Tallinn lol
Like you can go out and spend twice less, but you will get same or better quality food.
Germans seem to be friendly, however I think they are just tired of other immigrants or foreigners.
Party at the Sisyphos was decent, I am not a big fan of that kind of clubs, but I liked the atmosphere there.
I know I can't judge whole country just by the city, but I would love to visit more cities, if they are same price as Berlin or less lol
So far 6.6/10 (I think it would be 7/10 if that would be Summer)
Well, your country gives a measly 450 euros in benefits. Although my sister gets over 800 in Norway. So yeah, pretty shitty.
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Should go to Norway then. Or be happy you get anything for doing nothing, could stay in Ukraine too.
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Are you sitting in a bunker and don’t know that a war has been going on in Ukraine for a year and a half? Are you sending me to my death?
Why should I go to Norway if I have free accommodation here?
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So you get free accomodation and money and still talk like shit?
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Well, maybe you misunderstood me.
I meant it could be better.
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>getting accomodation and money for free without doing anything
>being safe while other countrymen die every day
>"pretty shitty".
holy fuck, the entitlement.
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This phrase was taken of OP and was said in the context of the comparison.
And anyway, why the hell should I justify myself to you?
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It's just entitled as fuck, crazy how someone can't show any humility while being helped in such situation. I am really wondering how you got raised.
U have no clue how much damage a ret***ed minority of Ukrainians like u are doing. Ur former ambassador was a c**t too.
Prices in Norway are way higher so u get more than enough.
Me and my pregnant girlfriend had to give our apartment that we were supposed to get to Ukrainians last minute. We have to move in a small shitty flat with a 1 month old daughter in August instead of moving in the original one in June where we would have had 2 weeks before birth still.
We have to stay in my Mums apartment just to help suckers like u
Honestly i don't give a fuck what happens to u
Edit: I meant him as an individual and not Ukrainians in general
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Even tho i get it's not much you also get your apartment paid which is a major part. I think 450 € is not comparable with 800 € in Norway anyways since food prices in germany are one of the cheapest you can get. I live from the same amount or even less while studying and it's actually not that bad.
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For a student, this is good money, but not for a 30 man ...
Also, you can find a good job, unlike me, because you are a resident of the country with knowledge of the language. So I have to grind faceit instead of making money.
Food prices are very high compared to Ukraine. I have to buy in Turkish markets, not in normal stores.
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Wtf
Are you now in all seriousness saying that I should die in the war?
Are you out of your mind?
You don't have to answer. I don't want to continue talking to you. You are clueless.
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This is laughable. I am pretty sure, food is cheaper in Aldi or Lidl at least basic food than in Turkish markets. Of course everything is cheaper in Ukraine but you wouldn't get nearly as much from the state of Ukraine in benefits. I really don't get how a 30 year old needs more money than a 22 year old, when you don't have children. I get the argument regarding the job, but you seem to speak quite good english, i am sure you could find a job. There are language courses organised by the work agency, I would recommend rather grinding these instead of Faceit. But please don't misunderstand me, I realise it's a hard time and you are probably not in the best state of mind mentally. I am glad you made it out alive and you are here. But don't expect to get paid more money than the average unemployed person if you don't work. I would highly recommend getting in touch with the agency for work and let them show you jobs and offers you could do for money or knowledge of the language.
6/10. Not a fan of German humour and socialising. Everything else is pretty fine though.
Solid people. I like Goethe. Cool culture as well.
I know loads of romanian people that went there to work, bought a house, had children and are going to live there their whole lives, i personally went 2 times and never had an issue, if it was so bad as u say they would have come back but they never did, most are there for 10+years
Maybe being born there made u a bit spoiled and not appreciate some things
Gorgeous architecture in smaller towns, beautiful landscape, nice people (in smaller villages).
Food is lovely, but that's probobly biased because we adpoted a lot of german dishes while being occupied by Germany back in the day.
I understand that quite a lot of Germans are of Turkish descent and that is fine. What i don't like is the uncontrolled migration policy and woke culture that allows migrants to be above the law (Cologne new year, 2016). Controlled settlement policies are fine, and those who can integrate and assimilate into western culture are more than welcome. But freeloaders thinking they are the modern vikings who can come across and pillage have no place on this part of the world.
Also well played on Merkel to push for Euro as unified currency in Europe, This played entirely into German favor as they had a strong manufacturing scene and didn't need to convert their currency. This ensured that Germany stays as the strongest economical market in Europe for years to come.
I just think their inability or perhaps their lack of desire to go digital is annoying
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Gotta admit that's true, annoying and seems to just slowly get rolling
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plus it's not easy to store. Papers get old after a point and even the slightest damage is enough to rip through the entire thing.
Urgent need for digitization...it makes no sense for a country to have such a strong core engineering industry but lag behind in IT
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A lot of stuff is digitalized already in a sense that there isn't much paper involved anymore but the accessability and integration into the bureaucracy is abysmal so it's not practical yet
when the next bubble explodes and all the banks crash the germans with their hard cash money will have the last laugh lmao
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Not talking about cash specifically
Document uploads and stuff
I mean upload a soft copy in 5 seconds or 5 business days for a courier plus the use of paper for xerox copies
here people see Germany mostly via the "bad bad history". After all Russia still lives in history and not in present day. The great future of Russia is long past. At the same time everyone are a bit of envy how modern and successful Germany is economically even when the official message nowadays is "Germany was a nazi state" like it somehow would define how the present day Germany is. So, mixed messages here about Germany
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did you forget about your east german brothaas?
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No, maybe for western people East Germany was always "low-grade" thing but for our grandparents it was a "paradise" and most people would have loved to move over to East Germany. But, I guess back then it was seen as part of "Soviet Empire" and not as "Germany". Nowadays people don't make a difference between East and West Germany, it is all the same Germany. So, please don't remind us about the fact East Germany was part of the same "bad bad history" Russia wants to show on national TV these days :-)
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but they literally said "friends forever" youtube.com/watch?v=raSpH0zcAsg
Even Stalin said Hitler's come and go but the German people will stay
I am genuinely wondering why they came up with this narrative about modern Germany
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I meant Russian television.
Out of hundreds of Americans i talked to the overwhelming majority reacted very positive when they heard I'm from Germany. The same people were often thinking badly about loads of other countries so it seems to me that most Americans don't hold a grudge against us anymore despite being proud that they managed to beat us in WW2. We have loads of tourists from overseas as well that wanna learn something about and experience the country where lots of their ancestors came from.
In Russian TV they act like we are still Nazis which is quiet ridiculous
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Like I said, it’s taught negatively in school but as Americans get older and are exposed to people from Germany or even visiting the country itself we learn that Germany is a good country. Talk to any 15 year old American and they’ll associate Germany with the killing of 6 million Jews and not be aware that today it’s a safe and prosperous country
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The age of the people i talked to actually varied quiet a lot. The very few times i had quiet negative encounters were with teenagers but i thought they seemed to be ignorant like teens sometimes are here or elsewhere so i never connected it with a negative way of learning about us in school so interesting to know!
Will never forget how i told a guy i knew for years what his last name actually means
He thought it'll be more exciting than "fork" lol
Honestly I hold pretty high opinion of Germany. Obviously some questionable political choices, but for what county can't you say that? (Also my flag lmao, definitely not my place to talk). Other than that - great architecture, germans that I've had close contact to seem like reasonable people, even though the stereotype about their humor confirms itself, I'm absolutely in love with german public transport system, I like the language a lot and to top it all off some of my favorite beer and cigarettes are German. Honestly little to nothing bad to say about the country, would love to visit it if not for ridiculous travel prices since the war started
I've been to few small german cities, which are very old and quite well preserved - they look great. And I love history of HRE. These cities are pretty chill but they're literally dying after 7-8 PM, so I couldn't live there. The big cities, as I heard, are quite filthy and dangerous, with the unsavory architecture
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True
stopped reading at left leaning
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nobody is as awkward as swedish ppl with the exception of finnish ppl
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Nah, German is kinda backwards technologically in other cities too, what is really surprising. Their fiber and telecommunication infrastructure is a joke (I will compare everything to Poland, which is natural I guess as I'm born and raised here). When I was buying tickets for a tram in Poland via app for ages they still had ticket automats everywhere. When we had 50gb data plans on our mobiles, they had like 5 to 7gb. When I was paying by card, I had to put my card there every single time and use pin (it had na contactless options). People were starring at me like an idiot that I'm trying to touch terminal with my card instead of inserting it in xd. And online banking was a joke, not sure how it is any longer.
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Waiting for our lost brothers to return :P
I love germany and wish I could be there, Different things for different people I guess. As for politics, all capitalist democracies go through a cycle of liberal to conservative and back again. It's just kinda a built in feature. The left parties get in, conservative media run all kinds of scare campaigns about economics, migrants and the military etc. Then the conservative party gets in and ruins public services, destroys the environment and usually has a corruption scandal. The cycle begins again.
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there are no conservative parties in germany besides one far-right leaning (trending at 20 % becuase the wokist government is complete garbage). they had a left-leaning merkel for far too long followed by a hyper-left green/socialist government consiting of utter retards. imo germany is a wokist shitshow. it's a lost country.
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+1 imo they should exist as separate entities like in HRE, that's the true germanic tribe-like way. they only united to bring destruction over europe
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i think i know more about european history than you but w/e
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HRE is like a worse version of our federal state system lol
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if you mean with worse "less centralized" , sure that's a way to see it but there are different view points. not everything has to be centralized.
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It doesn't necessarily but HRE was often unable to fulfil it's purpose because too many people in charge cause chaos and inefficiency when every fucking town wants to maximise their influence instead of cooperating with each other properly ^^
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it seem to have worked pretty well, it lasted for 1000years after all. there's not many political objects who call that achievement for themselves
85 years ago 10/10
today 2/10
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Are u really from Austria?
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My parents live permanently in FFH. I've there every summer. There's a lot of cool places, city is clean with good infrastructure and there's a lot of things to do. Also, German laws are less strict than polish. So you don't have to worry about drinking beers in park or so.
But I wouldn't like to live there permanently, FFH is 50% germans 50% mix of everything. People are fighting randomly and you don't feel safe in there after midnight in general. Also, the drug usage is on a level not comparable to Poland.
better and cheaper food
good salaries
worst language ever
great for slavs to earn money
cool
8,5/10
When we join the EU (soon), you will pay reparations to us, just as you did and do for Poland.
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afaik poland didn't receive any reparations lmao
(except for the territory of east germany which had to give to poland because soviets pushed borders west)
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I realised he is fakeflagging or delusional but might be both
Not bad, would be in top 5 countries I'd like to live in if I didn't already live in such a great country
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Are you from ukraine?
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No, my flag is real
Pros:
Beautiful landscapes
Educated natives
Nice food
Good public education and opportunities of immigration.
Cons:
Weather (imo)
Hidden social issues (imo)
Terrible internet, according to most ppl in this forum.
7x1 against Brazil (shit broke my heart, tbh)
Warum ist diese Sprache verdammt schwer zu verstehen!!??
7.5/10
Everything about its culture is amazing, they still give out lots of opportunities for ppl looking to immigrate, but I can't help but feel like it fell into decay and it's no longer as safe as it used to be + hidden social crisis.
Note: Yes, I'm Brazilian and I do notice the irony on my comment but can't help but tell the truth.
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