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Top 20 so far?
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Scotland hibee33 
Idc about top 3 but 20-4 is interesting to see what everyone thinks
2023-07-15 23:54
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1-2 vitality/heroic 3-20 the rest in no specific order
2023-07-15 23:55
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#2
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Scotland hibee33
players you silly goose
2023-07-15 23:58
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should have specified more mens)) too lazy for players though
2023-07-15 23:59
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#4
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Scotland hibee33
sorry (
2023-07-15 23:59
#5
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Brazil williamhsk1
1. ZywOo 2. ropz 3. sh1ro 4. Spinx 5. s1mple the rest idk, everybody almost the same level
2023-07-16 00:01
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#9
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Russia dar1y
i'd like to swap places 3 and 4 or replace sh1ro with ax1le, but still based
2023-07-16 00:04
#23
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United States cr4zy_m3
Ropz 2?
2023-07-16 00:50
1 reply
1.17 rating at big events, EPL mvp, IEM Dallas evp
2023-07-16 00:58
#26
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Ropz second? Really?
2023-07-16 00:58
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Does any other player this year January-July deserve the Top 2 more than him?
2023-07-16 00:59
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#29
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's not about deserving, it's about the statistics/accomplishments. That's a completely separate list entirely. Ropz is easily a Top 5 player but definitely not Top 2, currently I'd put him 5th/4th with s1mple.
2023-07-16 01:02
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and if it's about stats he deserves Top 2, s1mple, and he's just having a horrible year for his standards, he's top 5 forcing, disrespect comparing him with Ropz this year, Ropz way superior
2023-07-16 01:04
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#31
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Spinx and sh1ro are equally deserving of those places, though.
2023-07-16 01:04
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Spinx didn't have a better year individually than Ropz, he just won more big events, but that's balanced with the individual, and sh1ro didn't win anything
2023-07-16 01:06
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#39
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Spinx had 3 EVP's (one from the Major) and sh1ro has two EVP's (same as ropz). Ropz has an MVP but weaker statistics than sh1ro, who has him beat there. "Spinx didn't have a better year individually than Ropz" Spinx's rating against Top 5 is much higher than ropz' Top 5 rating. Ropz is about equal as a rifle-player with Spinx, both have roughly the same amount of numbers total and calculated but less events won than Spinx. s1mple is the unknown factor but people place him realistically around 4th/5th with Ropz.
2023-07-16 01:11
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sure
2023-07-16 01:17
but your opinion, there are people who think that the Earth is flat
2023-07-16 01:05
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#35
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Of course it's my opinion, same as yours. If you believe Ropz to be a Top 2 player, don't let me stop you from thinking that - your opinion is to be respected. Factually in accordance to statistics/accomplishments though, it is highly unlikely.
2023-07-16 01:06
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spinx worse than him in statistics and sh1ro didn't win anything this year, C9 carried him down this year, no way top 2 for him
2023-07-16 01:07
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#40
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Spinx has practically similar statistics with more events won + high EVP's. Of course he is a Top 3 contender like Ropz, just not Top 2 - that is indeed a wildcard but of course, entirely possible. :)
2023-07-16 01:12
2 replies
right, lets see
2023-07-16 01:17
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#48
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Agreed. ^^ Best of luck to Ropz and FaZe Clan. :)
2023-07-16 01:19
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Latvia Comzie
ropz, spinx, devve, blameF, broky, twistzz, m0nesy, stavn, jabbi, cadian, jks, ax1le, s1mple, NiKo, zywoo, sh1ro, Sunpayus, yekindar, NAF, frozen something like this, idk order
2023-07-16 00:01
7 replies
agree
2023-07-16 00:07
agreed
2023-07-16 00:14
no kscerato?
2023-07-16 00:20
1 reply
oh mb
2023-07-16 00:37
#19
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Georgia g3ks1
I think devve can miss top 20 due to astralis results, like it was with jame in 2019 (there he was in major final, won blast ang got mvp, had rating 1.26, but missed top, because avangar skipped some top tournaments and had not t1 results, except major and blast)
2023-07-16 00:46
+1, but i miss Magisk
2023-07-16 01:14
+1
2023-07-16 01:27
#7
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
User "Pneuma" had a pretty good list: hltv.org/forums/threads/2787353/top-25-o..
2023-07-16 00:01
NiKo s1 ZywOo Ax1Le sh1ro broky ropz Nertz Sunpayus m0NESy dev1ce Spinx frozen KSCERATO stavn jabbi cadiaN jks YEKINDAR Magisk
2023-07-16 00:07
#10
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United States Hakase
list will have at least the following NiKo (duh) m0nesy (duh) s1mple (duh) ZywOo (duh) broky ropz devve blameF ax1le shiro cadiaN jabbi stavn frozen yekindar magisk all basically guaranteed imo
2023-07-16 00:05
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#13
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World streetson
what about sunpayus and spinx?
2023-07-16 00:09
no spinx?
2023-07-16 00:10
#15
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Israel RoyBenji
In this order? No Spinx?
2023-07-16 00:10
#12
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Sweden SigmaSwede
1. FrozeN 2. Dexter 3. Jimphat 4. JDC 5. XertioN 6. ChrisJ 7. Spidii 8. Denis 9. TabseN 10. Nex 11. NiKo 12. LEGIJA 13. Troubley 14. cLy 15. Crisby 16. kzy 17. Torszi 18. loWel 19. gob B 20 . nex
2023-07-16 00:11
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Where ropz? Or are you one of the delusional "ropz betrayed mouz" people?
2023-07-16 01:18
1- zywoo 2- shiro 3- kscerato ??? (harry kane of cs) rest irrelevant unfortunately
2023-07-16 00:46
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#21
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Finland aleksiii
Tbh i'd be surprised if kscerato even makes top 20 considering how shit furia has been this year
2023-07-16 00:49
4 replies
his individual level has been great tho, blameF made it last year
2023-07-16 00:49
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#24
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Finland aleksiii
Astralis still made playoffs like in cologne and i think katowice? But yes hes been great but not top 10
2023-07-16 00:52
2 replies
hes top 3 in my heart, thats what matters
2023-07-16 00:54
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#38
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Finland aleksiii
fair enough
2023-07-16 01:10
1. FalleN 2. Zywoo 3. Sh1ro
2023-07-16 01:06
#36
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Australia jahsan
1.ZywOo 2.NiKo 3.sh1ro 4.s1mple 5.ropz
2023-07-16 01:06
My solid top 5 so far. Grim NaF ropz headtrick dev1ce
2023-07-16 01:14
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
A rough estimate. 1. ZywOo 2. sh1ro 3. Spinx 4. Ropz/s1mple 5. s1mple/Ropz 6. NiKo 7. m0NESY/stavn 8. stavn/m0NESY 9. Ax1Le 10. Broky 11. Frozen/Jabbi 12. Jabbi/Frozen 13. KSCERATO 14. CadiaN 15. NAF/magisk 16. magisk/NAF 17+ Sunpayas/NertZ/YEKINDAR/Device/Jks
2023-07-16 01:19
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#52
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Serbia nnikolaS
from the top of my head it doesn't seem like a bad list but stavn is just a total outlier
2023-07-16 01:41
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#53
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yeah... He should be Top 10 but with how Heroic and stavn are playing at the moment, it might even be potentially higher with future possible tournaments and MVP's under his belt.
2023-07-16 01:50
1-Zywoo 2-Spinx 3-Ropz 4-Rest
2023-07-16 01:39
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