pseudo journalists, and analysts are saying that about the younger generations since the 70's
genz and millenials struggle with bad and underpaid jobs (when they got one) and those bunch of assholes creates narratives like that
> You keep hearing about the shortage of qualified people especially in the IT-sector.
No one would be dumb enough to say that in the midst of tech layoffs
No problem for me, im good at what im doing
My company was looking for someone like me for 3 years 😃
Nobody wants to pay anymore
haha, it's such a funny copium, you write about these rejections interviews experience blah blah blah, "a person who loves his job does not work a day", it's that simple, so yes, nobody wants to work anymore
Don’t know for germany but in France everybody got told to be engineer thinking that is the absolute golden path.
Now there is too much of them and they struggle to find job that isnt pizza delivery.
Well i guess "noone wants to work anymore" is more a thing in lower jobs.
In germany for example a quarter of working people is bareley earning more than minimum wage.
After taxes , scoial security contribution and rent most of the people have slightly more or the same as someone living from unemployment benefit. I guess it is hard to find motivation to get up every morning just to have a few € more than someone who does not have to do anything.
I got a pay rise of roughly 30% after the lockdown due to the demand for security work going through the fucking roof as to be in a high level of security you basically have to pay about £2,000 for all the correct licenses and for the most part these only need to be renewed every couple of years with courses etc but it's effective at keeping out the riff raff and the company I work for pays for all my licenses, training, etc.
Going into IT is a terrible idea because there are already like 50 million Indians willing to do your job for like literally a tenth of the price you would cost.
Surprised Media lies about it to lower the salary. Because then many try to get this job and rejections lower the salary.
Best is to work for institutions or gov companies.
isnt that headline the same since like 1900s?
Totally the opposite, I'm lucky that my bachelor degree was into an apprentiship, that level up by a mile my CV and got a lot of offers to be project manager engineer, first with a salary in adequation with my degree, then I left the company to get a higher salary and now 3-4 years after my first job after my degree, I have an engineer salary
It's because you only have the bachelor degree, all master degrees and charismatic bachelors will have precedence over your normie bachelor.
Looking for job as a python dev now myself, I have similar experiences. I guess I have to aim low in terms of salary and prioritize improving my skills to get to higher-paid jobs.
why would anyone want to work xd
We had this problem last summer when we just couldn't find qualified people, which means engineers but then it suddenly changed and we employed 6-7 in space of 6 months.
But it is absolutely true for lower paid / manual labour jobs where I would say at least more than 50% are imported people from Bosnia/Serbia/Albania and I think this is true for a lot of EU countries.
15 applications with no work experience.. yeah buddy that ain't how that works
when I was still studying and sending applications in IT it was in hundreds, eventually got a summer job at a good company, then with that experience a permanent junior position, then going from there and now its easy to get a job. Just get something you start out with, doesn't have to be too long, 1 year at most if you're not getting promoted or better salary
Obv my work experience limited to Finland but I feel like this applies in most places
"nobody wants to work anymore"
Translates to no one wants to work for 5 dollars an hour anymore so we cant hire anyone
Does your qualifications match the job requirements? Machine learning / data scientist is so fluffy, how do you translate that fine title into value for a company?
Most university degrees has a total lack of real world experience as the degree is entirely focused on academia. Can you show anything you have accomplished, any project that you have worked? Are you realistic with your experience and align your job hunt accordingly?
I started my career 12 years ago with a boring non-interesting job that did not pay well. Landed a dream job about a year later, though pay was bad.
I get constantly rejected for lack of experience. maybe a junior/trainee position comes up. I was at one interview but still waiting about their decision
Everybody wants to work but not for pennies on a dollar.
Im satisfied with my actual full-time work place because I was lucky but my girlfriend works part time job while studying in 100 000 population city, her wage is only 5 USD/hour. Its such bullshit, she has to drive there for half a hour every day, every fucking degenerate employee got a deal with other employees to not pay more than this 5 USD/hour. Its such a joke when rent alone for a small flat in there is about 460 USD/month, without energies, you cant buy shit, you cant have shit despite working 60 hours a week. And you hear boomers saying that youth dont want to work anymore, is lazy because of phones, internet and shit, everybody wants to be influencer, youtuber, pro gamer. I would also want to be a influencer because actual job market is hell worldwide, employees and land lords are making of people. People are total scums after 2020, like war in Europe is not enough :)
As a mechanical engineer/machinist (no degree) I cant complain. Companies are still calling me with job offers even tho I am already employed. There is a shortage of people in my country.
Maybe work on your CV a bit more. Its really important
Go to your local Berlin kebab.
After graduation I spent 10 months doing fuckall and surprise I didn't get any work, not even interviews. Then I decided to actually do something instead of sitting around, spent some time to write each application and got two interviews which second landed within half a month.
The market is crazy. Everywhere there is job openings and if I wanted to switch jobs it would be so easy. But getting started working is always harder.
Sending 15 applications is nothing, widen your search or take what is offered on LinkedIn. You need to stop being so picky and get working, much easier to then move to a different job and you'll make money rather than sitting on your ass. Also sitting on your ass, when the job market is like it is make you look lazy.
you have misunderstood. There is a shortage of qualified people*. *Shortage of people who work for nothing and are abusable. They cant seem to find those anywhere.
It's ridiculous, I have a bachelor in Artificial Intelligence and currently in my 2nd master year. I should have offers coming in left and right (and i did when i started my studies). Now no one is offering entry positions, let alone part time entry.
I suggest you educate yourself in a very specific topic and become a master at it, then apply for those positions.
lmao are u expecting to get into the workforce without knowing someone ?!?!
accept the fact that all IT-places are taken by Russians in DE
"nobody wants to work [for shit pay]"
its more like "nobody want to be a slave anymore :("
It's simple. Pay enough and you will get employees, lmao.
Your obvious problem is that you are a bachelor, you need masters to be wanted.
Sounds pretty infuriating. I work in a marketing agency and after finishing my apprenticeship I wrote like 3 applications. I didnt hear a thing from the first two, but the 3rd was a pretty nice company with quite a good offer so I accepted and now I've been on the job for almost two years. Also getting a good company fpr apprenticeship was quite easy with about 15 applications. Imo that's still not too much.
Guess I was lucky. Wish all the best for you, surely you'll find a good job.
nga we are in recession what do you expect hahaha 😹
maybe they don't like your face?
Jk, a degree is just an entry barrier. you need a lot of experience in that field like apprenticeships etc to make yourself interesting from the pool of hundreds of applicants.
There is always someone who has more experience or skills in that exact position that you are applying for. Just make yourself stand out. Lie a bit, not too much tho.
I had this problem for a short while in 2021. I was almost finishing my bachelors on one of the hardest unis of brazil and applying for low value software jobs that I could probably do in a quarter of the working hours while drunk.
The interviews always said "yeah we are looking for someone with more experience, we have no time/resources to spend on training".
When I finally got a job (for the shittiest pay possible, poverty wage), the managers were "impressed" I was learning too quickly. Like dude I have been learning this stuff for the past 4 years, how would I not know how to do it.
I don't know if this problem exists in Europe but here in Brazil you can get a bachelors from a random online university that do the absolute bare minimum to comply to state regulation on bachelors and basically just sell you the diploma with very easy exercises/exams during a few years. Obviously those people join the market and don't know how to do anything, and that becomes the norm for junior devs.
I'm telling you, when you get your first job you will be horrified at how many people are holding mid and senior positions at these companies and don't know how to solve the most basic obstacles like debugging your code or reading documentation.
i dont think its have shortages. im a restaurator and im doing fine
It's just an excuse to import hordes of 3rd worlders to work at minimum wage. They don't want to pay citizens a good wage, with benefits, and they don't want them to unionize either.
nobody want to be a slave and receive a shit payment anymore :( :( :(
I had that experience not far long ago (literally 1-2 weeks ago). I finished my bachelor at 2021 as one of the best students of the course (in the middle of the pandemic), and I decided to start looking for job offers. I sent a lot of applications, and I did received one job proposal which I declined (it was a dumb move at the time but since the pandemic was an excellent time for IT companies, I decided to take the risk and try to have another offer from other companies). I miss a few online tests and didn't get any other offer (I fucked up). So I decided to focus on myself. 2021-2023 I did freelancing for local companies while pursuing a master's degree, built my web portfolio, went crazy on open-source, local projects and github, invested in my LinkedIn, networking, etc. At the beginning of 2023 I started applying again, but since we were (and are) facing a recession, most of those "entry-level/junior" positions were really rare. I tried everyday to send applications to companies but no response back from most of them or "you need to have more experience". 1 week ago I went to an interview and got the job offer for something that I'm really proud of.
Takeway: don't give up and invest in yourself, don't be dumb like me and accept everything now, you need experience. You'll eventually get there!
Yep. I'm returning to IT but it's highly competitive. Remote jobs are a gold mine if you find one. Just yesterday I've received this:
"Unfortunately, we received over 5,000 applications for this role and didn't get the opportunity to review your application."
There's WAY too many Indians which are willing to slave-wage and I'm also seeing a bazillion of Africans applying as well - every remote job on linkedin has +200 applicants. It's *HARD* to break the first barrier.
People want money, not work.
Idk mate, I landed two jobs way before I graduated. I wasnt even remotely close to being qualified to either of those positions, but then again I have above average grades & work in a different field.
i feel you man thats 100% true in germany
15 applications lol
Naive little kid
>15 applications I have sent so far, I have gotten 5 rejections
This is nothing lol. And online applications are easy come easy go. You can easily send hundreds.
Treat job hunting like it's a job in itself and you'll find a position in no time.
Its the biggest BS. Its mainly companies not willing to pay enough. I dont think CEOS, CFOs or any management has ever checked local rent prices and thought to themselves maybe we should pay more so they don't have to pay 50% of their paycheck a month on rent alone.
i sent only one application in my life and got accepted
worked at my company for 6 years
EMS is always short staffed wich is a blessing and a curse simultaneously
got in on the first try
im getting 1k p/m => okay for turkey, terrible for the industry
also im working remotely and doing pretty much nothing but getting high and playing games
so is not that bad
There is no job offers in my country
Isn't uni meant to grant you opportunities for the degree you completed?
Anyway as with all jobs in life - it's who you know, not what you know.
haven't even got my bachelor yet but i'm working full time as data engineer. Honestly I don't care anymore for my degree. I will take it to the end because i already came this far but my career objectives are highly independent of it
Currently studying to become Marketing Economic aka Marketing Management - Starting my own business on the side, with outsourcing/Selling high-end luxury sneakers, clothes and bags, trying to make it my career, or something to do with some sort of e-commerce or fashion
Idk about Europe but in NA that statement is true. I certainly don’t want to work
idk about eu and na but in asia you can't do much without a degree (i mean you should have at least bachelors degree)
but in IT sphere you can get enough salary but for junior devs and starter IT specialists it is hard af to find a job, even with 1-3 years of experience is not enough nowadays. Everybody saying this is the result of crisis in big tech companies, but I think it is simply not the reason.
You can earn much money by being famous on youtube, insta and tiktok or starting a new business by taking a huge risk. That's literally the only way to earn more money in Asia
Or you are wrong and there is no shortage of qualified people. Could be possible?
I wish you luck with the job hunting bro <3
You think you bring value only because you have degree ? Get some skills and get good at it, then you always will be needed
You're not getting jobs because either your resume sucks or you suck at interviewing, not because of your "qualifications"
Managers couldn't care less as long as you can do the work (most jobs are complete BS and can be done by 16 year olds)
If you're not getting interviews, it's because of your resume. If you're getting interviews but not offers, it's because of your interviewing. Simple
I'm still on highschool and aiming to become a software engineer, you're scaring me
I went on a tour of the airbus factory and at the end they tried to hire me just because I mentioned that I'm studying engineering (the guy was telling me about the pay and benefits and everything). You should just have gone for the alpha stem subject.
As always in life, everything is easier and possible if you have the right connections. This will NEVER change.
It's not easy to have your first experience. I had the same for my first job (well, it only lasted for a month) but in the end, now I receive weekly request to join companies. Keep up mate, you'll work it out !
EDIT: I'm a software developer, got graduated in 2014
People with brain understand that working hard usually not pays off