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IGLs have for long been bottom-fragging low K/D players, like karrigan, HooXi, apEX etc.
But now we have BlameF who is a top-fragging IGL, electronic who can put up very impressive K/D and even Aleksib often isn't going as far behind his teammates as most IGLs do.
Who are other high K/D IGLs that come to your mind? Will the meta finally change with impactful IGLs not all brain no aim players?
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yeah but part of that is because he calls for himself a lot more than for his teammates like a karrigan does
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and if calling for yourself puts you in playoffs then I think it's pretty smart
this isnt true mate if you watch astralis - he made buzz go 14-1 ffs whilst he was still on 0-2. stop making stuff up when the grown ups are trying to have a conversation about how he's changed and improved sm as an IGL and teamate since taking the mantle of responsibility - also he's a great leader in terms of mood and calmness under pressure.
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Acor plays on gamerlegion #6 world ranking, Woro2k plays on Monte #11 world ranking, Hades playes on 9ine #18 world ranking, Nawwk plays on apex #9 world ranking and Fallen plays on Furia #19 world ranking.
I see why you could consider Furai and 9ine tier2 even though they are not, but Woro2k, Acor and Nawwk are 100% in every percievable way tier1.
saying sunpayus is worse than cadian xdddddddd
or even midky
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yekindar on a good day maybe
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yes thats exactly what I just said
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yes and you said "but he can still put up some numbers from time to time" which is exactly what I said just in other words
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yes which means "but he can still put up some numbers from time to time" in other words
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yes which could also be interpreted as "but he can still put up some numbers from time to time"
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both statements mean the same thing.
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no, he said "yekindar on a good day maybe"
0.76 rating god
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liquid should just replace rainwaker or patsi for a new igl and let yekindar be the rifler, yekindar is wasting his prime
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hampus was always aggro lurk high impact player regardless of what his teammates are doing
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That might have been due to the mental problems though, he played worse and worse until his last 2 matches where he was terrible and needed medial leave.
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good calling and good frags you mean? 😇
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somehow led a team with jackz and amanek to a major grand final, will always be a great achievement
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tbf you could put a cow in nexa's place and get him to major finals with 2021 NiKo
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Nexa was probably the best fragging igl during that time rating wise with like a 1.0 2.0 avg while igling that monkey squad to a major grind final. Kind of a mindless take but this websites full of them though so what's new.
I watched every G2 series & map outside of qualifiers if they played any during that time. Nexa did an incredible amount of heavy lifting mid rounding a brainlet jackz & amanek.
not has to be like that
glaive in prime, fallen, cadian
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sdy/woro2k/whoever the fuck igls on monte, jame,
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woro is igl also
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its kinda weird nobody really knows if its sdy or woro
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You're not wrong.
sdy is the main caller, he sits in the middle seat and is extremely vocal post-round setup. Woro2k helps with calling default setups, like electronic/sh1ro, who are also very vocal themselves.
No, it's sdy and many people know this
we all know how blamef gets his kd
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Tabsen is trash
cadian
Cadian, Tabsen, Jame, Hampus and siuhy maybe
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Definitely in t2, he’s still getting into the swing of things in Mouz but mechanics wise he’s pretty solid
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Hampus used to be nuts but now? Definitely not.
Jame is super
last year I would say tabsen and hampus, but they underperform a bit now
there were also alex in movistar and chelo in mibr
now blameF is a champion :D maybe it's worth to mention sdy, blitz or even ins
Mynio, but not always
Jame, Cadian(Cuz Awper's) and Electronic cuz(Star-rifler)
Xizt before he started coaching. Looking back he was also up there, was just not someone standing out. Has been even the best fragging igl (got that trough reliable sources)
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It's true, he was the fragging IGL
CadiaN, YEKINDAR and Jame are definitely at the top right now, with the ones you mentioned.
Also shout-outs to mezii, who used to be a top-fragging IGL (I think dexter IGL's now), Siuhy can frag pretty decently, sdy can frag pretty well and has great numbers, and obviously INS.
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I mentioned sdy but forgot about tabseN. xD
So cheers for that. ^^
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Hey - That's fine by me, friend. :D
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and how is it working out for those teams?
chopper
he has been solid in the three different iterations of Spirit
degster sdy magixx SANJI
w0nderful Patsi magixx s1ren
donk artfr0st magixx z0nt1x
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yeah but before they got the new academy players recently they were playing a lot of T1 events especially during online era
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i was about to refute myself on that point haha but I think chopper stayed consistent throughout t1 events whether they were online or LAN especially at majors
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o ye actually it was mir instead of SANJI/degster at some point, i dont remember but i loved the Spirit with mir idk why they kicked him smh
if i could rebuild Spirit i would've kept w0nderful:
chopper mir donk magixx w0nderful, too fucking good
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they def looking good rn with academy but idk if they can ever compete against real t1 teams, i have high hopes in donk though but the other 2 are a little shaky sometimes and don't know if they can improve to a new level
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I'd do Chopper, mir, donk, magixx and ArtFr0st
ArtFr0st >>>>>> w0nderful
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You say "frauds" but Karigan, HooXi and apEX are literally in Top 5 teams currently.
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Hasn't all of the IGL's I mentioned literally won events this year?
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Then which IGL's were you originally referring to? You didn't make that very clear, friend.
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So BlameF, Electronic and aleksib, if you discount the ones I mentioned?
My apologies for the confusion.
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I just wanted to confirm bait first. ^^
But he has a point
Why is it that IGL who frag good don't win anything?
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CadiaN actually does.
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Tarik as well but without the baiting
Cadian, electronic, sdy, kyxsan, siuhy
snappi is a good fragging igl surprised no one said him
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facts, but i guess they expect like a 1.1 rating IGL. Snappi always delivers tho around 1.00 rating average and has big impact.
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true
well blameF and elec werent igls for most of their career, just talented players forced to igl, the others are awpers which makes it easier to frag out, also notice how the best igls are not the fragging ones, karrigan, pronax, zeus, xizt, gla1ve is an exception though in his prime he was good
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aleksib is in your LIG KD top3 is a blame
all LIG from T1 to T5 are way better than aleksib stat
closed + report
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bLitz, Jame
mynio worst in 90% of matches and best in 10%
just me or does it feel like ever since blamef became IGl he's started taking more initiative?
I could swear I've seen rounds where he's at one spot for 70 seconds but now I see him using his WASD more often
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imo if blamef plays like this then Astralis might have actually found a competent IGL
It's criminal for a player like blamef with solid aim to allow him to be stationary for 70 seconds on a map
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BlameF dev1ce and even b0RUP are a pretty strong trio and are doing well. Buzz and Staehr are concerning and still a weak link tho, especially considering that Staehr was supposed to be a big firepower upgrade. But maybe with time they will also develop and that could be a decent Astralis line-up, considering the last few years they've had
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When you think Buzz can't play he ruins a tier 1 team with a stupid good rating lmao
good for him though
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even if for one map
if that map decides their fate in the tournament I'd say it's worth it
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jame, bLitz, cadiaN, blameF
blameF
FalleN
Jame
YEKINDAR
cadiaN
alex
hampus
kyxsan
sdy
electronic
mezii
bLitz
tabseN
Jame is a decent awper while IGL-ing.
kryxxan, jame, siuhy, tabsen, hampus, insani, biguzera, blitz, alex
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No awp/igl: Dexter, kyxsan, siuhy, snappi... all these can frag well
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CadiaN, Jame, YEKINDAR, tabseN, sdy.
In the past: NiKo, hampus, gla1ve, FalleN.
Good-fragging IGLs are not such a rarety actually. Surely I might forget a name or two, but you get the point.
siuhy, yekindar, cadian, tabsen, sdy, fallen both good individually + igl
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not yekindar, he is shit now
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he is just fine, not shit atleast 1.08 for igl isnt that bad who is entry aswell
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In Cologne he was horrible compared to before. I think he got too cocky and gave up his best role.
you didnt mention siuhy or cadian?
putting yourself in star roles as an IGL is kinda weird you're not always gonna be thinking about your own game
If you want to be an active IGL, you just won't have the time to practice your aim as much as the other players, nor can you focus as much on your crosshair as the guys who only need to understand their own role and job in the team. A good IGL also sees the big picture and understands what is the most important thing for him to be doing in order to win the round, and that often isn't something that would net him kills and boost his stats.
Xizt was really good back in the days, FalleN, gla1ve during Astralis era, Lekr0, blameF, Jame, Cadian, electronic is putting good numbers
MSL won an MVP medal while IGLing btw
Nexa
Yekindar
Tabsen (before last event)
Jame
Electronic
Cadian
Hampus
Guy from sprout, alpha?
Siuhy
Potentially dexter, chopper, jerry
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