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Counter-Strike > M4A4 still dogshit
M4A4 still dogshit
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter 
Just use M4A1-S please FaZe... the gun is still OP compared to A4. How many rounds did rain singlehandedly lose by spraying through smoke with A4 and getting tapped in return with no silencer How many whiffed shots from poor A4 recoil control, instead of going for the reliable option of bodyshot A1-S? How many forcebuy rounds because 'just short of enough money for A4 buy, so Famas instead/deagle/MP9' NiKo using A4 = struggling, 'kekw G2 2 event era' NiKo back to A1-S = Cologne + MVP + 1.29 3 month rating Until A1-S gets nerfed again just use the better gun. Don't be a hipster, just play the meta its your careers on the line bros.
2023-08-17 20:17
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#1
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Croatia ProudCROAT
m4a4 is better
2023-08-17 20:18
5 replies
#3
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
It's not $200 better if at all M4A4 has a higher ceiling if played perfectly, but as NiKo has shown even the best aimers in the world do not reach that ceiling. He's playing significantly better on CT now after swapping back to A1-S, so is HooXi, karrigan etc
2023-08-17 20:19
4 replies
#10
NiKo | 
India rushil20
Depends though JKS on nuke stairs always and I mean always gets 2 before being traded if he has the a1s their he never gets the second kill.The ceiling is higher but when played perfectly it's better saying that the a1s is still probably better for like 75% of the players.
2023-08-17 20:22
1 reply
#14
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
jks is another guy who is really solid at A4 compared to A1-S for some reason so he's another one of those guys who can justify using the gun But when literally the highest headshot % pro in tier 1, b1t, switches back to A1-S after posting shit stats on A4 you know there's something wrong with the gun balance still
2023-08-17 20:23
#20
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Finland d0udy3160
89 in 4 with a1-s with a4 that guy would die thanks to 66 rpm higher fire rate of a4
2023-08-17 20:37
#24
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Croatia KraljBrk
Would rather buy aug instead of a4 lol & use a1
2023-08-17 21:44
#2
Arm;'pGfm'; | 
Germany SxxyCake
aug>>>>
2023-08-17 20:19
#4
RpK | 
France HippzZ
Especially on Inferno where there are a lot of fights where you can kill with 4 bullets in the body
2023-08-17 20:19
5 replies
#6
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
Exactly. If it was Dust2 I would understand. Too many long range fights, less smoke spam, go for A4. In this meta though? Vertigo and Inferno? A4 is semi-griefing for 90% of pro players
2023-08-17 20:20
4 replies
#9
RpK | 
France HippzZ
+1 Crazy that pros are not aware of this, but not surprising since the Krieg story
2023-08-17 20:21
#12
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Finland Karppanator
A1 is the easier gun to play for long range, not the harder one.
2023-08-17 20:23
#13
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Russia CIS_ERA_2K24
? long range a1s is king. In inferno a4 is superior because all are close fights so more bullets and higher fire rate is better
2023-08-17 20:23
1 reply
#21
n0thing | 
United States Dinozoar
Volvo change the dmg falloff of the weapons. Mirage: Van to Kitchen in apts = more dmg on m4a1s Window to Cart on top mid = more dmg on m4a4.
2023-08-17 20:47
#5
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United States kennyRiddim
its skill issue
2023-08-17 20:20
3 replies
#8
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
exactly. skill issue for anyone not named huNter or ZywOo, everybody else performs significantly better with A1-S
2023-08-17 20:21
2 replies
#11
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Russia s1mple_majorchamp_2021
and d0nk
2023-08-17 20:22
#18
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United States kennyRiddim
exactly, im not hunter or zywoo so i use a1s
2023-08-17 20:27
#7
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Russia s1mple_majorchamp_2021
a4 better more damage more firerate m4a1s at long range is whiff machine
2023-08-17 20:20
#15
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Turkey REALIFE_IS_OVERATED
They both need to be 3k.
2023-08-17 20:23
1 reply
#16
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
Agree.
2023-08-17 20:24
#17
Bymas | 
Lithuania ashas
"whiffed shots from poor A4 recoil control" doesnt seem like a gun problem to me
2023-08-17 20:24
#19
Portugal lovessd
Niko didn't become so good because of the m4a1s. he changed his mind learned to hold his nerves & be way less toxic & desperate when losing so he can bounce back at any time
2023-08-17 20:30
#22
n0thing | 
United States Dinozoar
M4A1S vs M4A4 -M4A1s pros 2,900$ vs 3,100$. 38 vs 33 dmg/shot. No tracers vs tracers. 28.22m vs 27.71m standing range accuracy. 33.13m vs 32.43m crouching range accuracy. 4.60 vs 4.70 crouch (higher number = more deviation) 127.40 vs 143.38 running inaccuracy. 105.10 vs 102.77 jump inaccuracy. 21.0 vs 23.0 recoil amount. 65 vs 70 recoil angle variance. -M4A1S Cons 6‰ vs 3% dmg falloff. 3.475 vs 4.000 headshot multipler. 600.00 vs 666.67 RPM. 20 vs 30 bullets per mag. 80 vs 90 bullets in reserve. 3 vs 0 recoil variance amount 2,246.53 vs 4,557.44 fatal headshot range. The A1 is objectively better than the A4.
2023-08-17 21:20
1 reply
#23
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
+1
2023-08-17 21:43
#25
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Sweden kingenkongen
FaZe won everything with A1-s. Swapped to A4 and Karrigan is top fragging
2023-08-17 21:45
#26
NEO | 
Poland gobelin77
Its just too expensive
2023-08-17 21:46
#27
Ryujin | 
Europe steasyy
true there is no way the gun should cost more than the a1s lol
2023-08-17 21:48
#28
s1mple | 
Pakistan m1zaru
why cuz it requires skill
2023-08-17 21:49
1 reply
#30
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
No, it's because the A1-S doesn't
2023-08-17 21:50
#29
electroNic | 
China HEIDASHUAi
A4 Price swap with the A1s
2023-08-17 21:50
2 replies
#32
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
At the very least should be same price. A4 isn't even the better gun and yet it still costs more
2023-08-17 21:51
1 reply
#36
electroNic | 
China HEIDASHUAi
Yeah true, even $3000 for both guns would be a good change
2023-08-17 21:59
#31
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Europe Real_Man
a4 is better rn
2023-08-17 21:51
#33
D0cC | 
Netherlands Jorissie
But pro's like to flex with their howl skins
2023-08-17 21:55
1 reply
#34
nitr0 | 
United States Jksexter
just flex Printstream until rebalance
2023-08-17 21:56
#35
Moldova mozzycs
m4a4 is stronger currently, open the game once at least
2023-08-17 21:58
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