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Heroic +gla1ve?
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Germany Gabbah 
Okay hear me out. Maniac brought up a good point on the post match desk with +dupreeh, but I think +gla1ve as a secondary caller makes more sense. Could definetly help them solve their choking issue. individually his skill isnt even that bad so it wouldnt be the worst downgrade in terms of firepower. This could also free up cadian a bit, who is already one of the better fraggers atm in the team.
2023-08-19 19:26
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#1
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Argentina fribergoat
Heroic can't be fixed
2023-08-19 19:26
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#4
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Germany Gabbah
I would disagree there; at this point it is their mental. That can 100% be worked on/improved with a different player.
2023-08-19 19:29
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Nah. Heroic are overachievers, they've gone over their peak, but obviously it's not enough to win big tournaments.
2023-08-19 21:38
#19
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Denmark 12inchNRG
Heroic don't need to replace players, they've been consistently top 4 competitive for the past 2 years. But their playstyle seems to be easily read now, similar to how G2 was after Katowice, Heroic need to overhaul their playbook.
2023-08-19 19:51
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#20
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Argentina fribergoat
Its easy, move stavn to the shitty roles and put jabbi o sjush on his role, if he is going to put 0.90 rating every playoffs whats the point of puting him on the "star role"
2023-08-19 20:17
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+1 great take
2023-08-19 21:52
jk this take is terrible all he needs is talks with a competent sport psychologist like device had years ago
2023-08-19 21:54
+1 you really dont want to replace anyone of these guys. i do think heroic lost depth when hunden left their org, but that might be a controversial take so lets not get into that.
2023-08-19 20:22
Lol they have weak firepower compared to the top teams. They need to replace either sjuush or teses. Probably both
2023-08-19 20:24
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#34
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Denmark 12inchNRG
You're clueless if you think sjuush is the problem, he's literally the best or 2nd best anchor/support player in the world, it's him or perfecto.
2023-08-19 21:13
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Ahahaha not even close
2023-08-19 21:13
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#53
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Switzerland DSVBANSHEE
Nah he’s right. Sjuush performs very well for the rolls he has. The problem with heroic is that all players are good, but none are exceptional, so it’s not obvious who to remove. Even though he isn’t terrible, teses would be the only logical one to replace.
2023-08-19 21:54
#39
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Heroic are dead in the water without Sjuush. It's like removing jks or magisk.
2023-08-19 21:17
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They’re dead in the water regardless so why not replace the weakest link(s)?
2023-08-19 21:43
add gla1ve as coach then he can be spy for astralis
2023-08-19 19:27
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XD imagine
2023-08-19 21:25
Magisk would be the dream replacement, but never happening unfortunately. +Dupreeh -Teses unironically could be a upgrade. Less firepower, but a lot of experience. That is exactly what Heroic needs imo.
2023-08-19 19:38
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#22
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United States cybonics
funny joke
2023-08-19 20:21
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Meds. Don't skip them.
2023-08-19 21:17
or just +k0nfig for experience + better firepower
2023-08-19 21:16
#45
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United States Gadj
That really could be interesting
2023-08-19 21:35
who maniac wanted to replace with dupreeh btw?
2023-08-19 19:29
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#6
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Germany Gabbah
he didnt specify but I would asume either one of tesses or sjuush
2023-08-19 19:29
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Sjuush? Literally the only good thing about that roster
2023-08-19 19:40
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#16
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Germany Teuton1813
Really improved the last months. Jabbi fell off hard
2023-08-19 19:45
#17
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Germany Gabbah
well stavn aint leaving, same goes to cadian. Jabbi is also doing great, so it would be between those two sadly, even if they play well
2023-08-19 19:45
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#21
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Brazil kantzz
Jabbi doing great? I dont think so
2023-08-19 20:21
#32
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United Kingdom Calafrio
only teses makes sense
2023-08-19 20:33
No, he's washed in every way: dust2.dk/nyheder/38343/device-astralis-s.. Quote from the article: "Benja might watch a lot more CS and grind a little more. Seeing what the other teams are doing, a little more up-to-date with the meta."
2023-08-19 19:30
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#9
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Germany Gabbah
blameF has legitematly been credited by multible people for being one of the hardest workers they know, so I wouldnt say gla1ve is washed as a result. just because someone else is better. In addition he would just be a supportive caller, rather then take over from cadian
2023-08-19 19:33
+zonic as awper , trace and ave to rifle
2023-08-19 19:33
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#10
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Germany Gabbah
1.6 hello? you called?
2023-08-19 19:33
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well they want to +40 years old washed pros, why not just +70 years old 1.6 players
2023-08-19 19:43
#11
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United Arab Emirates Im_The_One
Lol no, then they will be a top 30 team kekw
2023-08-19 19:35
#12
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Denmark 2ism
Heroic cannot be saved. Astralis better now anyway
2023-08-19 19:36
xDDD insane bait
2023-08-19 19:38
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+1
2023-08-19 20:25
#18
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Denmark 12inchNRG
Individually his skill is atrocious, have you watched an Astralis game in the last 2 years? Gla1ve was one of the worst players in T1 skill wise. Anyway it will never happen as him and Cadian genuinely hate each other, and there is no way heroic are downgrading their igl.
2023-08-19 19:50
PLEASE STOP WITH DUPREEH HE IS DONE
2023-08-19 20:23
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#28
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Finland d0udy3160
why he would be. playing dog positions in vitality made his stats much worst than he actually is.
2023-08-19 20:26
#27
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Finland d0udy3160
+dupreeh or +k0nfig only way to fix that team
2023-08-19 20:25
Why change Heroic when they are constantly Top 3 ? chill
2023-08-19 20:28
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#40
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Finland HARD4ENCE
I suppose the goal is to win tournaments, not finish top 3
2023-08-19 21:19
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So any team that isn't top 1 should change roster every time they don't win 1st place ? Braindead logic. Heroic won tournaments and gonna keep winning some, the competition is high. Sometimes it's G2 sometimes it's Vitality sometimes it's Heroic sometimes it's ENCE sometimes it's FaZe ... thank god orgs don't follow HLTV forums logic.
2023-08-19 21:26
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#44
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Finland HARD4ENCE
"So any team that isn't top 1 should change roster every time they don't win 1st place ?" Not what I'm saying. But they have been finishing top 3-4 for a long time now. And they got 2 Blast wins. Sure, it's better than nothing, but their tournament winning rate in relation to how far they usually go is pretty poor. At some point they need to convert those deep runs, and so far it doesn't seem to be happening. Sure you can give this roster more time, but is it going to change anything going forward? Do you think they can still improve much? Especially on the mental side. But I agree with you on the fact that atm it's ultra competitive, so winning a tournament for any team is going to be hard. But still, Heroic almost every time makes it to at least semi-final but then for some reason falters just before the finish line.
2023-08-19 21:34
#30
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Denmark Saithz
Only solution is -cadian
2023-08-19 20:30
heroic +msl
2023-08-19 20:31
Heroic need some decent awper + device
2023-08-19 20:39
Sorry to say, but gla1ve either have to be main caller or nothing. He isnt known for fragging much at all
2023-08-19 21:16
#46
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United States Bbaby
you dont know cs history i guess gla1ve and cadian once had a fist fight back stage and are on very bad terms
2023-08-19 21:36
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it went under the radar,most people dont know this xd
2023-08-19 21:53
-stavn +swisher
2023-08-19 21:52
hmm I know prime Astralis took some time before they finally hit the streak with Magisk,but heroic have been in this "almost there" limbo a long time..
2023-08-19 21:58
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