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Therapy you went through and what it changed for you
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Bulgaria ramkain 
What type of psychological therapy did you go through and what were the results of it? To the people, saying, that this is not CS related, I would like to bring out the gaming addiction, causing many people to fall into some variety of depression - there was even a thread today of a guy, struggling with life outside of cs (lack of motivation). Can we be helpful to eachother? For me, personally cognitive-behavioral therapy is a must, as it works around the cognitive model of: Situation -> Automatic thoughts -> reaction (emotional, behavioral, physiological). Explanation: Each situation/happening provokes certain automatic thoughts (thoughts, that we are rarely able to catch), which trigger a reaction. Based on the cognitive model, when you feel in a bad mood with lack of motivation, you can retrace the situation, which caused it. For example: You start feel terrible. You start to investigate why you feel terrible by asking yourself: "What went through my head just now? (as a thought)" With that question you spot that thought for yourself. Now, that you are having the thought, you can work on it by validating if it is 100% correct for you or exaggerated or if it truthful at all. Slowly analyzing, you find out what was the situation, that triggered the thought. From there you start working on how you view the situation and why view it the way you view it. Don't really want to explain the whole process (don't remember exactly the deep details as well) - hope this little explanation was of good use. TLDR: Share psychological therapy experience if you have. What made you impression? A theoretical example from Cognitive-behavioral therapy.
2023-08-21 17:06
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2023-08-21 17:13
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based
2023-08-21 23:30
Berserk isn't a therapy, it's something that causes the need for therapy :D
2023-08-21 23:33
#11
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Bhutan woogah
therapy is a scam
2023-08-21 17:13
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Funny thing is that people who need terapy the most have the same opinion as you :D
2023-08-21 17:19
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#27
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Bulgaria ramkain
+1 But slavs strong people, vodka and rakija, be brave and whatever happens, happens Standard thinking :P
2023-08-21 17:23
#36
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Bhutan woogah
nobody needs therapy its a scam just go outside and stop whining
2023-08-21 17:33
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Enjoy your fucked up life then. I just hope you wont fuck up another people lives in the process.
2023-08-21 17:34
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#85
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Bhutan woogah
you are so mad i don't need a shrink to suggest the most basic advice and a lifetime SSRI addiction for 50 bucks/hour
2023-08-21 18:56
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Lol, no. Problem of this society is that a lot of people need therapy and they dont even realize it. So they live with their childhood traumas etc. and in the best case scenarios, they fuck up their lives only. But if they get into the relationships or have children, they have negative influence on so many people it makes society ill.
2023-08-21 19:44
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+2
2023-08-21 23:22
#129
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Bulgaria ramkain
+3
2023-08-22 19:19
No such thing as SSRI addiction, nt
2023-08-21 23:28
#70
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
One-track minds never prevail.
2023-08-21 17:55
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Cope
2023-08-21 23:30
1 reply
I don't need to cope to state the obvious, friend. You do if you believe otherwise.
2023-08-21 23:31
Fr
2023-08-21 17:50
+1
2023-08-21 23:27
#13
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Germany Gabbah
Trauma in my childhood and depression, also Asperger's. Helped me gain trust in my own decision making again and I got valid coping mechanisms for situations I encounter in my daily life. In general kinda a long and private topic, but it did help me a lot. Go to therapy people :D EDIT: feel free to ask questions tho if there are any. I will answer if they arent too private
2023-08-21 17:15
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#20
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Bulgaria ramkain
Nice, that it helped. It is considered along the masses, that therapists are "scammers", because, when a person takes hour and the therapist is an inexperienced guy with little knowledge and practice, the therapy could be full waste of time. Searching for therapist by asking on, for example, facebook group and other social platforms is vital.
2023-08-21 17:18
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#21
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Germany Gabbah
therapy takes time. sometimes years even. In addition you need a therapist, that understands you, validates you and is actually trustworthy for you. All that makes it difficult for some to find the right fit for them, which leads to negativity sadly.
2023-08-21 17:19
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#24
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Bulgaria ramkain
Well said!
2023-08-21 17:20
+1
2023-08-21 23:23
+1
2023-08-21 23:23
just get good, no therapy needed👍
2023-08-21 17:15
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#28
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Bulgaria ramkain
How to get good, dare i ask?
2023-08-21 17:24
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#49
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Georgia pandorra
that's the part you need to worry about, not the therapy
2023-08-21 17:45
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+1111111111111111
2023-08-21 22:58
#51
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Georgia pandorra
this but unironically
2023-08-21 17:45
Going through an one right now so it's early to say, but I believe it will help me a lot in long term and builds my character.
2023-08-21 17:15
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#25
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Bulgaria ramkain
It will, surely - the mere fact there is a guy for you right there, whose job is to connect you with your inner self, raises the character a lot
2023-08-21 17:21
Grew up with a crippling anxiety disorder Completed a gov funded CBT program It helped
2023-08-21 17:17
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#26
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Bulgaria ramkain
gov funded CBT Canada is miles ahead lol Nice of you! Thanks for acknowledgment towards CBT
2023-08-21 17:22
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The gov also runs a free website for mental health that anyone can access (meant for Canadians but anyone can realistically use it). Lots of great resources on here: wellnesstogether.ca/en-ca/
2023-08-21 17:26
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#31
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Bulgaria ramkain
Thx for share, I think every country has similar sites, just want to say, that being able to run a gov funded CBT with entering psychiatry is way too ahead for me.
2023-08-21 17:29
3 replies
I actually assumed many countries did the same… how much do people have to pay for CBT?
2023-08-21 17:29
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#34
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Bulgaria ramkain
They go to individual CBT therapist, charge is like 30-40 $ There are psychologists in the psychiatry, that run CBT for free, but only to patients.
2023-08-21 17:30
Did they have therapy for lgbt people too?
2023-08-21 23:33
#87
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Germany _car
Which of the two CBTs????
2023-08-21 19:15
1 reply
Both of them obviously
2023-08-21 23:33
I have spoken with at least 20 therapists/psychologists. all of them are frauds
2023-08-21 17:30
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#38
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Bulgaria ramkain
Psychology is not fairy-tale - it is science, that has basic structures. Basically all you need to do is follow three simple steps. - Establish connection with client. - Diagnose. (Understand if the patient needs psychologist, psychiatrist or neurologist and if he needs psychologist, will you be able to provide the basic therapy needed) - Work centered, around the diagnose and prevention of relapse. All you need is knowledge and to be able to establish connection with people.
2023-08-21 17:34
10 replies
all they gonna tell you is drink pills and go outside more. alternatively they gonna tell you are fine or lying. thats it
2023-08-21 17:38
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#44
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Bulgaria ramkain
Thanks for telling me you haven't met a single psychologist without telling me you haven't met a single psychologist. Your insulting and hatred with 0 understanding and knowledge of the profession speaks enough of what you've seen. First of, therapist is a combined term, that could be used for psychologist, so dividing them to therapist/psychologist ringed a bell. Second: psychologist can't prescribe pills - psychiatrists do. Third: With "go outside more. alternatively they gonna tell you are fine or lying" only a below 14 year old teenager would give such of an advice. I don't understand why you would lie on this thread of knowing psychologists.
2023-08-21 17:41
8 replies
I've been to psych ward and 2 of the psychologists said I was fine. and two of them said I was lying. You dont have to believe me if you don't want to
2023-08-21 17:44
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#50
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Bulgaria ramkain
Thats not 20 And they can't conclude what is happening on you like that lol
2023-08-21 17:45
6 replies
It was only the first time I was in psych ward. I spoken with countless others in different cities but whatever
2023-08-21 17:50
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#63
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Bulgaria ramkain
There is a thing called clinical interview. Nobody can say what is happening with you without it, speaking of the psyche area
2023-08-21 17:51
4 replies
ok and ? so you are saying they did something else and not a clinical interview or what
2023-08-21 17:56
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#75
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Bulgaria ramkain
I say that you are either lying or you met totally unprofessional people
2023-08-21 18:09
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wow. so if someone thinks therapy is a scam and provides examples of why they think that, they are lying. nice
2023-08-21 18:21
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#83
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Bulgaria ramkain
I just can't believe such unprofessionalism could exist and you exaggerating, that you know 20 such people is just impossible for me
2023-08-21 18:26
made me less socially anxious and self critical and more confident
2023-08-21 17:33
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#39
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Bulgaria ramkain
Nice! What type of therapy?
2023-08-21 17:35
6 replies
just talking ig, there was some cbt element to it though
2023-08-21 17:47
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#55
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Bulgaria ramkain
lol nice game you had there
2023-08-21 17:47
4 replies
what do u mean lol
2023-08-21 17:49
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#61
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Bulgaria ramkain
In #54 you said: "just talking ig" - "just talking in game", right?
2023-08-21 17:50
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lmao ig = i guess. talking to people in csgo is opposite of therapy
2023-08-21 17:52
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#68
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Bulgaria ramkain
OHHHH, there are two varieties of ig - didn't know the other one :D
2023-08-21 17:53
very nice men👏👏
2023-08-21 17:39
#40
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Poland Astoner55
Zero psychological therapy, I luckily never needed it. But to whoever's fighting out there - stay strong!
2023-08-21 17:36
i was gambeling , cocaine and alcohol addicted i had severe aggression problem. therapy fixed my agression problem and the gym and sport got me into a sober lifestyle.
2023-08-21 17:40
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#45
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Bulgaria ramkain
Nice, was it Cognitive-behavioral therapy?
2023-08-21 17:42
3 replies
mixed with N-A meetings yes. was very painful.
2023-08-21 17:46
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#53
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Bulgaria ramkain
Thanks and well done on the recovery
2023-08-21 17:46
1 reply
thank you, but ye once reach the bottom u can only go up and this was my case.
2023-08-21 17:47
#69
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Netherlands Dayonel
stay strong bro 🏋️‍♀️
2023-08-21 17:54
#109
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Netherlands SpiceNut
Glad to hear about your recovery, good stuff
2023-08-21 23:34
#46
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Netherlands gnux
Go bentinho massaro podcast
2023-08-21 17:42
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#47
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Bulgaria ramkain
Saved
2023-08-21 17:43
3 replies
#62
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Netherlands gnux
And Joe Dispenza & Tony Robbins Brooks and podcasts, You Will not need therapist
2023-08-21 17:50
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#64
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Bulgaria ramkain
Thx! You are using youtube the right way lol
2023-08-21 17:52
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#72
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Netherlands gnux
No problem. Helped me a lot. Breathwork is also nice. Follow @kaspersfocus at insta
2023-08-21 17:56
I have analyzed my own behavior since I was 12, therapist just tells me what I already know
2023-08-21 17:48
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#66
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Bulgaria ramkain
Oftentimes distortion of thought makes self-reflection distorted
2023-08-21 17:54
#67
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Brazil hugoooo
You spoiled kids
2023-08-21 17:53
for many years i worked 70 hours a week under very toxic chefs who have threwn plates at me during service, just therapy in itself helped me alot to get rid of this shit enviroment.
2023-08-21 17:59
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#76
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Bulgaria ramkain
Can't you sue those guys for some big money?
2023-08-21 18:10
2 replies
can do, but this will take shit long time without evidence its just gonna be waste of money and its pretty normal for a oldschool kitchen enviroments.
2023-08-21 19:03
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#88
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Bulgaria ramkain
Yeah, but the damage has been done :(
2023-08-21 19:22
#74
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Therapy outright saved my life, short and simple. I did CBT sessions for a year and was diagnosed with a plethora of mental illnesses at the age of 18, the breakout was a year earlier at 17... I was lucky enough to receive counselling and therapy after that just to be able to ask questions and talk to people who can understand you. They helped me get on the system with sick notes and helped me with my anxiety attacks that were particularly prevalent at the time.
2023-08-21 18:04
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#77
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Bulgaria ramkain
Nice of you to recover from such difficult times!
2023-08-21 18:14
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#79
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Well, I'm currently unemployed but mental health is definitely not as bad as it once was. :) Thanks for the kind response. ^^
2023-08-21 18:19
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#81
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Bulgaria ramkain
Why don't you try work in a supermarket? To get the communication needed The dynamics of human relationships can be a huge buff towards exiting mental illness period
2023-08-21 18:25
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#84
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I'm not particularly adept at talking to new people face-to-face, even though I enjoy the interaction. That's why I used to work online, online interaction is far easier than being face-to-face with other people + it still increases your overall interaction.
2023-08-21 18:30
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#89
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Bulgaria ramkain
Hate to break it to you, but part of every therapy is prevention of relapse and not being face-to-face with people only pushes things towards it. It is extremely important for a person, exiting successfully mental illness due to therapy to get social "face-to-face" as you would say. Its not just about communication, but the empathy - you need the other person's chemical processes not only for psyche, but for your own chemical processes. If you ask me - I am free from obligations on this anonymous forum, so I speak what I believe is right - re that CBT, but focus on human interactions, not on the illnesses themselves. By far, you understand the therapy well enough to see the results of such of a focus and their reflection on your future life.
2023-08-21 19:26
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#95
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Of course but I also know the extension of my limitations, what I can and cannot do. I can still speak to people here and there but as a potential occupational hazard due to my own impudence? That's a risk I'd rather not take unless absolutely required. Therapy helps with pushing yourself with many different ways: Testing your limitations overall, exposure therapy can help with anxiety or any GAD, give and take can aid in compulsions, CBT with obsessions, etc... My point being is I'm aware of what I'm comfortable doing and I'm thankful to have a therapist that I can call a friend. :)
2023-08-21 20:34
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#110
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Bulgaria ramkain
Its good to know your own limitations, but my advice, don't treat them as borders. A friend of mine told me one day (I will paraphrase) : "Reflecting now, If I could come back in time I would slap the sh*t out of me." Just don't want you to surround yourself with a shell, because two steps away 30's kick in, three step - 40's and a person is butt-naked if he hadn't broken his shell multiple times by then
2023-08-22 18:16
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I agree and I would argue that it is equally as important to know what your limitations are so you can be sure to avoid any relapses or situations where you are in over your head.
2023-08-22 18:21
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#115
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Bulgaria ramkain
True - but Caesar healed fking epilepsy by keeping himself restless, busy and super daring... I don't like the "your life, your call" thingy, which most people use, because it turns healthy people into drug addicts. This is why I gave the Caesar example
2023-08-22 18:48
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It's also extremely dependant on context, type of illness and how one copes with it. It's incredibly circumstantial and not everybody lives with mental illness the same way, which is why therapy exists to begin with. I wish the same methodology worked every single time, but it doesn't and it never goes away - you have to learn to accept mental health as apart of you, only then can you learn to deal with it in whatever way helps the best. :) Be it the Caeser way or otherwise. ^^
2023-08-22 18:54
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#121
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Bulgaria ramkain
It is not the same methodology - gave the specific example of epilepsy : "Although there is no known cure for epilepsy, developments in treatment have made it possible for most people to achieve seizure control. The first treatment step is usually to find the right medicine or Anti-Epileptic Drug (AED)." Source: ~ epilepsy.com/treatment Thank you for being polite, but I am not trying to be polite in return, but being direct - you need to 180 yourself and quit the agenda you accepted and they fed you with (therapists and so on). Eric Ericson wrote specifically why the afro-american slaves in the Americas had lower IQ back in the era - they were fed a frame by their descendants and the holding society, which they had to fit - and did. It is same with bullied kids - they get dyslexia and their classrooms start to bully them, so instead of advancing slowly (due to the dyslexia), the bullied kids start advancing TERRIBLY slow in order to fit the social frame they are fed up with. Do you see where I am going with this? Next time you on therapy, ask your therapist two questions: One - "am i going to be happy with my life after 10 years, living like this, living with the mindfulness I currently have?" - and instantly start observing their reaction, while they look for words - don't believe what you want to believe - just follow their reaction. If you see something negative in the answer, ask the second question: "why then are we not following the life you feel I would live fully and truthfully happy, instead of the life, you feel, that will suit me?" If they dodge the first question (for example: "why would you ask me that?" or "is there something you would wish to share?") keep insisting, until their reaction reviews. Do this and you won't lose nothing - you will either find acceptance or denience - with just two simple questions. Because you are on a payroll, man - the therapist's job is not to be your friend, but to have a friendly connection with you, which he could use in the therapeutic session - simple basics.
2023-08-22 19:10
i tend to reflect alot since i turned mid 20. it helps alot. i try to stay calm and only worry about things i can change with my actions. other than that. i never had therapy.
2023-08-21 18:16
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#82
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Bulgaria ramkain
Reflection is top, wp
2023-08-21 18:25
None because im not a liberal woman.
2023-08-21 19:49
trauma (faceit soloq)
2023-08-21 20:17
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#125
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Bulgaria ramkain
feel free to blame people like #114 lol
2023-08-22 19:16
#105
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Brazil ZerongBr
I think like yourself. I take a moment to think and to ponder about my feelings and what to do. When it's unbearable, I try to distract myself and that mostly doesn't work so I go to the beach to reflect or go to my room. I usually give up to sleep on my room and next day I try to process my situation. Writing helps me a lot. So I guess it's what you said and, if strong enough, writing
2023-08-21 23:31
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#113
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Bulgaria ramkain
I am not one to judge, but as OP I would like to post personal opinion. True, but if something keeps bothering you constantly and you don't know what it is, thats pressure in need to be understood. Once understood, you can take measures - writing in your sentence seems like escapism (btw many people with some form of neurosis (old term ik) tend to write). If you understand the reason of pressure and then find yourself, that by writing you can neutralize the main source - thats a perfect way to balance. Make difference.
2023-08-22 18:23
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#118
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Brazil ZerongBr
Yep, sure what you said is true. Writing besides being my escape method it also helps me understand my feelings because I used to have a guilty mind and emotion. It helped be sort it out for myself and continue to live on after a long time of understanding and accepting what cannot be changed, and so accepting my guilty. Whenever a deeper feeling or signs of a deeper feeling manifest themselves, I tend to run away from a moment, gather my thoughts, gather myself and write. Like you said, writing is an escapism but also a method for understanding
2023-08-22 19:07
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#122
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Bulgaria ramkain
Strong character you have! I would have suggested to you to not follow the earthly things, but I believe you probably know that yourself already :)
2023-08-22 19:11
they said i need meds but i arent listen for im not becoming some drug addict nt
2023-08-22 18:17
My therapy is playing office on my smurf account
2023-08-22 18:26
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#124
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Bulgaria ramkain
Only problem is people need therapy after you, otherwise would've been a W x)
2023-08-22 19:15
therapy is the biggest waste of fucking time ever to exist, went in open, telling thenm how i felt suicidal, i was about 14. came out at 16 with thoughts 100x worser than before, i have been in hospital twice after that the only thing they taught me how to do was lie better. dont go to therapy
2023-08-22 19:02
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fuck therapy
2023-08-22 19:02
#123
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Bulgaria ramkain
#38 Judging by your story, I can only say I am sad to hear you also fell for paycheck stealers, man
2023-08-22 19:13
2 replies
its free here for u18
2023-08-22 19:20
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#131
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Bulgaria ramkain
They pay the therapist from the government if its free for you. As I said, probably lack of competence from the person you've been to.
2023-08-22 19:23
hormone replacement therapy, it changed me to a woman
2023-08-22 19:08
#126
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Ukraine SHEOL_NR
Had CBT course not long time ago, most useless thing ever. There are no such person who can get into my mind and fix everything.
2023-08-22 19:16
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#128
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Bulgaria ramkain
depends on the thing you need help to go through - cbt isn't meds and sometimes a person's body has a real med problem
2023-08-22 19:18
true
2023-08-22 19:24
#127
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Bhutan woogah
sucking it up therapy the only one that works
2023-08-22 19:17
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