Forum thread: cs 2 gonna kill cs for real ?

i know man i also had 80fps when i had 1650 bruh maybe its time to leave this game and move on

2023-09-01 07:12

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2023-09-01 07:56

Maybe they will improve fps a bit in the future, for me the biggest problem is poor visibility on low settings.

2023-09-02 14:54

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Nuke fence when T's are crossing to secret on low settings is impossible to look at and it hurts eyes so much.

2023-09-02 19:27

u vaited me hard

2023-09-02 19:24

source 2 is more GPU dependent than regular source its also kinda buggy rn but it is a beta

2023-09-01 07:13

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if i am not getting 300 fps with my 1060 6gb then this game might just lose a lot of players cuz in asia some of my friends still play with their 1050 or 960 gpu cards

2023-09-01 07:14

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well those cards are 8 years old at this point and the beta is still a beta that straight up isnt working properly like i saw an fps increase by increasing my settings like thats not supposed to happen also to be noted those weren't good cards when they were released let alone 8 years later

2023-09-01 07:20

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thats supposed to happen if your gpu is newer and better than your cpu. The computer will automatically focus more on the gpu if you increase the video settings

2023-09-02 14:44

an 'i3' is never a gaming machine. It was never marketed as a gaming CPU, that's i5/7/9. Valve have to keep innovating and moving the game forward.

2023-09-01 07:18

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bust still i do have 300 fps in current csgo

2023-09-01 07:19

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that's cause current CSGO is using a game engine from the 90s bro

2023-09-01 07:20

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i dont care its their job to give me better fps wtf

2023-09-01 07:20

not to um ackchewally you but the source engine debuted in 2004

2023-09-01 07:21

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to my knowledge Source was heavily based upon the original GoldSrc that the original Half Life used in the 90s.

2023-09-01 07:23

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correct it is based off of GoldSrc but It has a wider range of features and capabilities, such as advanced physics and AI, as well as improved graphics, and support for more modern technologies like DirectX 9 and 10. meaning a more efficient bang for your buck in terms of visuals and calculation speed which allows a higher fps despite having more calculations to do

2023-09-01 07:26

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but it is still based on an engine from the 90s. Even in 2500, if there i a single line of code from GoldSRC, it is still an engine with roots in the 1990s, that's how programming works. I get paid a shit tonne for doing it.

2023-09-01 07:28

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This is a bad argument. RocksDB is based on log-structured merge tree but you don't say RocksDB is a DB for the 90s.

2023-09-02 01:55

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I 100% would do, yes.

2023-09-02 02:10

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Okay, so you're a bad programmer. Understandable! Have an awful day.

2023-09-02 03:10

+1 people who say "but the engine has code from a 30yo engine!1!1" don't know shit about how development works

2023-09-02 16:12

what's the point of changing the game's graphics engine? why didn't they just update cs go for better optimization? the physics of this source2 sucks, cs go didn't need to change the graphics engine, because cs has always been focused on gameplay and not graphics, even more cartoon graphics

2023-09-01 07:36

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Any engine will meet its limits. There is only so many times you can superglue onto something without the original code & software tumbling around it. Eventually it is simpler to just move on to new things.

2023-09-01 07:47

i5 is for gaming i7 is for productivity i9 is for bragging rights

2023-09-01 07:55

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nah, in my case i9 is for rapid compiling code & rendering videos lel, it just games like a beast as a side effect. Also tbh for modern games i'd recommend an i7 over an i5 if you can afford the small difference

2023-09-01 08:50

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You don't need an i7 to play one game. You need an i7 if you want to have 3 monitors, playing games, watching streams and streaming at the same time

2023-09-01 23:48

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You need an i7 if you want to be able to guarantee you can play modern games though, and i3 or i5 will just be a 'probably' rather than a definitely on higher end games.

2023-09-02 01:37

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No, i5 is sufficient

2023-09-02 16:52

2023-09-02 02:13

i3 is good for CS:GO after those went from 2 cores to 4 cores. I had i3-8350K once and I had stable 300 fps in CS:GO with gtx-1060 3gb.

2023-09-02 02:18

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ye but i presume people want computers that are future proof and not just for CS

2023-09-02 02:23

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surely poor brazilians and russians are future proofing their PCs, surely

2023-09-02 19:39

they should allow people to play the version they want, no one should be forced to play this badly made copy of valorant

2023-09-01 07:16

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Then, playerbase would get divided. How about optimise it first and then ship

2023-09-01 07:19

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valve knows deep down that most would rather play cs go, so she wants to be a dictator and force others to play this horrible game

2023-09-01 07:37

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most people would rather play cs2

2023-09-02 14:14

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where did you get this information from? of streamers who live on content? cs2 is trash, csgo> cs2 stop bragging about this horrible game just because it's something new

2023-09-02 16:03

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everyone i asked likes cs2, ofc its not perfect bc its still beta

2023-09-02 16:43

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+1 still beta there was a significant change/shift in several aspects from classic > CSS > CSGO. they're never going to please everyone

2023-09-03 04:54

does the game have abilities? or the terrible anime graphic of valorant? no? Then stop calling it valorant

2023-09-01 07:20

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2023-09-01 07:37

+1 people complain for the sake of complaining... pathetic

2023-09-02 02:13

>i3

2023-09-01 07:17

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+1, guy is crying when he is using an i3. if I was getting 60fps with my i9-12900k then there's a problem.

2023-09-01 07:18

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game sucks and there is performance drop which will kill off players but i3 made me physically laugh

2023-09-01 07:19

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there are some good i3's dont laugh about using i3 but his one not rly good ;D

2023-09-01 07:25

if you don't have enough fps, just buy more fps. it's that simple.

2023-09-01 07:18

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+1 just buy money

2023-09-01 09:10

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+1 can confirm

2023-09-02 16:09

I wonder if this will affect the number of players, cuz im for sure not gonna play this game the game is running below 60fps on my pc, i rather play valorant

2023-09-01 07:21

"dropping to 60 fps" is not that bad if your average is fine. Your PC is very low end

2023-09-01 07:21

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i get 220fps dota2 valorant 270 fps old csgo 300 fps now cs 2 60 fps do u think game have no problem ?

2023-09-01 07:39

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is that average or minimum? You said it "dropped" to 60... your wording is not clear

2023-09-01 07:41

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average 100 dropping to 60

2023-09-01 07:41

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Dota 2 is totally different game , not comparable. CSGO and Valorant are easy on hardware, CSGO because it's old, Valorant because it was made like that with simple graphics, typical riot game. I think they will optimize it a bit, but don't expect it will be way better, you need a better PC if you want more FPS in CS2.

2023-09-01 07:42

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i am not buying anything new

2023-09-01 07:43

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then get used to your 60-100 fps maybe a bit more.

2023-09-01 07:47

Doesn't sound like valve's issue

2023-09-02 01:45

the problem is it doesn't feel like some games that can run on 144fps just fine. it's still clunky like csgo, so it needs 300fps like water.

2023-09-01 08:01

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I want to test it myself before i speak about that.

2023-09-01 08:03

no bro. A bit lower fps for me in cs2 is much smoother than in csgo. it seems to be older hardware problem or maybe even OS. cs2 supposedly works better on win11 and newest linux distribution

2023-09-02 01:47

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Could be better frame pacing since different (faster) engine. CSGO feels stuttery even with 400+ fps Rdr2 is a good example of game that feels smooth even at low fps

2023-09-02 02:02

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yeah you are correct

2023-09-02 10:53

my fps stayed the same from csgo to cs2

2023-09-02 14:15

i mean. i had 500+fps in csgo with my ryzen 5 5600x +1650 gtx... now i decreased my setting a lot and still has 250fps at best and it feels like shit ngl VOLVO PLS FIX UR LAGGY GAME :(

2023-09-01 07:23

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bro I mean what did you expect... source1 requires a gpu just to be there, the only thing it needs is cpu. source 2 rendering pipeline is much more complex and puts more pressure on gpu. Cpu requirement stays the same. Average gaming pc with more balanced parts wouldn't drop more than 20-30% of performance from csgo. in my case I play on high settings and get really respectable fps

2023-09-02 01:50

cuz Ryzen was carrying your fps in CSGO, now that CS2 requires good GPU instead of CPU you shouldnt be surprised it dropped that much

2023-09-02 01:52

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yeah i know but still not sure if it should be this big drop of fps

2023-09-02 10:14

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I think its fair honestly, I have 6800XT and I get 300-500 on 1440p

2023-09-02 13:42

Recently I have been playing cs 1.6 a lot and believe me csgo feels souless in contrast. The movement is just so crispy. Plug and play aspect is unreal. hop onto a server. Vote for map. Play knife round. Select sides and bam. Vote kick trolls and afks. Really don't like how modern games suck so much time. If I had to put it in one word I would say csgo is more frustrating to play. I think cs2 could learn a lot from this game but I guess it's wishful thinking

2023-09-01 07:23

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1.6 and 1000 tick servers. You will never see anything like it. High ping? Your problem. just ideal

2023-09-02 01:52

Simple fix, for simple problem. Buy a new PC that is able to handle "modern games" :D

2023-09-01 07:24

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well if that is really must then valve might lose most asian players cuz some of us still use this kind of setup

2023-09-01 07:42

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so they're going to lose players that they'll never make money out of what a travesty for them

2023-09-01 07:48

i3 9100 I mean come on What did you expect? It is a new game, you obviously will need at least passable Hardware for that. I am not sure if that gpu is bottlenecking you in any way (it is however lower than minimum starfield requirements, just saying), but the cpu most certainly is gonna be a problem for any remotely modern game.

2023-09-01 07:51

"SoUrCe 2 WiLl Be OpTiMiZeD tHaN sOuRcE1" "BiGgEr NuMbEr BeTteR" Why would they release a game that requires less or same PC specs, that would be terrible for future sponsorship. Looks matter to new-coming players, remember all the CSGO fanboys saying CS1.6 looks like shit and CS1.6 fans said gameplay > graphics, here we are again suck it up how you going to lure in young players to a game that "looks" dated. This thread reminds me of when CSGO came out from CS1.6, get used to it, it was expected I don't understand why you'd expect anything different. End of the day graphics are a skin, skins don't have any impact how the game plays but it sure as hell sells.

2023-09-01 07:59

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I mean it literally is more optimized but for higher core count thus making old 4 core cpu's garbage.

2023-09-02 12:22

I remember having an i3 15 years ago.. go play mine craft with that potato cpu

2023-09-01 08:12

Mans playing on 10 year old hardware and expecting to be able to play new games with 300 fps lol

2023-09-01 23:56

300 fps on inferno, felt pretty smooth

2023-09-02 01:41

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running cs2 on Hadron Collider gjgj

2023-09-02 02:22

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rtx 2070, i5-12400

2023-09-02 10:42

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best setup. best price for top pc

2023-09-02 12:11

your pc is broken, I have way worse specs and still get like 120+

2023-09-02 02:19

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source2 exists for 8 years

2023-09-02 02:23

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same as 1060 and i3 9100.

2023-09-02 10:53

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so might be 300+ fps

2023-09-02 12:08

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nah bro. it is the same with competitive and non competitive games. hardware that was created for getting for example 60 fps at mid settings in 2014 is going to get same fps with same settings in game with engine of 2014. I mean i understand your concern but it is how it is. any other super popular game will run the same on your hardware. the only thing now that is bad is some ue5 titles which have ridiculous requirements even for today's standard. so it is fully justified as your build was considered low-mid end even in 2016 or whatever year you bought it. so for example if you buy today's low-mid end hardware and play some fresh 2023 title you would get the same fps or even worse because the game is noncompetitive and maxes out on fidelity of it. it is just your mindset that is wrong here

2023-09-02 19:19

source1 > source2 then

2023-09-02 16:07

Say bye because we're leaving. It's END OF CS

2023-09-02 02:28

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cs2 will literally kill cs

2023-09-02 12:12

It's 2023 outside and your PC is from 2017. What did u expect?

2023-09-02 12:09

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imagine buying a high-end pc to run heavy cartoon graphics that add nothing to the game

2023-09-02 12:11

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yeah it's funny how some people just expect you to waste 5k$ or something just to upgrade pc to further waste your time in games and waste more money on buying them. What a nice investment.

2023-09-02 13:49

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It's only worth it for people who are earning money from this game - pros and streamers. I guess I will just follow esports for now. It's the only entertaining part of the cs franchise nowadays

2023-09-03 04:35

i5 13600 with rtx 3070 fps dropping to 200 xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

2023-09-02 12:11

game still feels smooth though even with that low FPS i have i5 9300h 16gb ram and 1650 mobile and i get about 80-100 fps but it's very playable, if i was getting that in CSGO it'd be a disaster but CS2 it still feels fine

2023-09-02 12:13

I get 300+ fps on max settings, 1080p res, sounds like a you problem

2023-09-02 12:14

So confused seeing all that stuff about low FPS, got, like, 150-200 on overhauled maps on low-mid settings with a GTX 1060 3GB and i5-10600KF

2023-09-02 12:16

Your pc is worth like $400 Amazing that a new game coming out means you need a newer pc

2023-09-02 12:16

Oh yeah, you get alot more fps with 11 years old game ! i dont beleive you

2023-09-02 12:18

what I found out just now is that disable FSR (Fidelity Super something) in advanced video settings, helps tremendeously. But yeah, also dropping frames a bit on a i5-10700k 2060 rtx

2023-09-02 12:24

You need atleast 6 cores for cs2. My ryzen 1700x gets around same fps csgo and cs2.

2023-09-02 12:28

l bozo

2023-09-02 13:48

Same happened when Valve update Dota2 to source 2 some years back. Initially it was way heavier, my pc (which was decent, at the time) couldn't handle it. In time however they optimized it and it got much better and lighter. Hope the same will happen with cs.

2023-09-02 13:49

Me fps went from 150 in CSGO to 300 in CS2 , very good game

2023-09-02 13:53

L bozo

2023-09-02 14:32

You do know your graphics settings affect your fps, don't you? Just set it all on minimum level and you may be fine.

2023-09-02 16:14

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bro he has i3 9100f and gtx 1060. you need to understand his position. it is only his fault unfortunately since you can't have same rendering pipeline from hl2 even 20 years after

2023-09-02 19:21

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he talks only about the res, as if there's no difference between high and low graphics levels

2023-09-02 20:32

its ez to get acess to cs2 now?

2023-09-02 16:17

upgrade pc maybe? it's close to being 10 years old by now.

2023-09-02 16:53

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yeah lol. majority of the parts like 2070s or 3060 or something like that are cheap but used right now. it is really easy to get one. a good friend of mine bought used 3060 for super cheap. I just don't understand those people like at some point you will need to change your car too or at least change something in it

2023-09-02 19:23

I honestly hope that cs will die because of this diseaster of game. CS2 is pure trash.

2023-09-02 19:24

It actually disturbs me how bad CS2 is rn

2023-09-03 04:51