Forum thread: -jdc +jimpphat

antiflag?

2023-09-06 20:37

10 replies

This move sucks for both mouz and jimppy. Swapping a role player for a star player is... not smart.

2023-09-06 20:40

8 replies

when i said that 2 month ago, i got flamed by finns :(

2023-09-06 20:42

7 replies

Everyone was just excited i guess. And now jimpphat will get worse and worse. And Xertion as well. Just because rolewise the team won't function as it could've been with jdc.

2023-09-06 20:49

5 replies

I didn't follow Mouz too closely but I am seeing a drop in xertions performance, did he change roles? What has happened?

2023-09-06 21:17

4 replies

He's running first in sites now more often. Before that he was mostly the second man in, trading the entry. I believe there also was some changes on ct side so jimpphat could get some of his usual spots.

2023-09-06 21:21

3 replies

nah they just put jimpphat to jdc's ct positions

2023-09-06 21:24

he was bad with jdc too i guess

2023-11-28 17:49

Maybe his roles are different, but his stats are literally the same.

2023-11-28 21:00

2023-09-07 08:02

Like MILK

2023-11-28 06:32

2023-09-06 20:38

people hated on jdc when he played worst roles and was actually quite decent

2023-09-06 20:38

13 replies

also he was a pistol god

2023-09-06 20:40

2023-09-06 21:53

jdc got done dirty

2023-09-07 13:02

+1 i didn't really get his benching at all

2023-09-07 14:10

3 replies

they wanted jimpphat on the main team, even though it made no sense and the team was finally getting some decent results

2023-09-07 16:37

2 replies

decent results? It was one tournament

2023-09-07 17:09

1 reply

Isnt it decent resaults winning a tier1 tournament??? And on top of that they are really consisntent

2023-11-12 08:40

2023-09-07 16:19

funny cuz one or two people were saying that back in the day but now everyone agrees with this take

2023-09-07 16:37

mfw +1 is not enough, I was shocked when he got benched

2023-09-08 12:02

3 replies

Why bro slippn Jimmy way better.

2023-11-28 09:29

2 replies

hold on, lemme re-read this thread from 3 months ago

2023-11-28 17:03

1 reply

Growth aging like fine wine, retrospective insight

2023-11-28 17:04

+donk 10 majors and era confirmed

2023-09-06 20:38

31 replies

stopped reading at donk

2023-09-06 21:09

2 replies

u get donked

2023-09-06 21:13

stopped reading at +

2023-09-06 21:32

yea but thats any team lmao + he wouldnt downgrade this hard

2023-09-06 23:11

27 replies

donk? downgrade? if he switched to mouz? 0/8

2023-09-07 09:25

26 replies

you have to be joking lmfao you are comparing spirit top 8-10 to frozen vs 5 roster which is maybe top 15

2023-09-07 12:48

25 replies

time to take your pills

2023-09-07 12:57

2 replies

shouldnt have replied to tier4 flair

2023-09-07 14:05

1 reply

I don't know why you replied if you don't have 1 argument other than "flag + flair"

2023-09-07 14:15

hltv.org/matches/2365903/into-the-breach..

2023-09-07 13:01

5 replies

you sent it yourself, open qualifier 1 month ago lol

2023-09-07 14:05

4 replies

cause spirit dont play any matches. Last 2 games that were not cis lan they lost

2023-09-07 16:09

3 replies

there arent any qualifiers though what should they play besides invites ? every team plays the same games unless they get invited

2023-09-07 16:18

2 replies

Im not saying anything, I just dismissed your prior point and btw #67

2023-09-07 16:21

1 reply

that goes for you i dont take chemicals

2023-09-07 16:34

Spirit is top15 team at best though.

2023-09-07 14:07

14 replies

based on ? not on praccs (they beat vitality heroic g2 etc pretty often) not on officials (they beat vp which are top 7 or smth like that) not player wise i dont get it, no team below top 10 can beat them

2023-09-07 15:42

12 replies

>i dont get it, no team below top 10 can beat them >lost to 9ine, spirit, Movistar, ITB At least get your facts together, friend. You're coping hard at this point. Regards.

2023-09-07 15:45

11 replies

1 month ago, how can they lose to themselves ? they lost 2 months ago to best vertigo team in the world on vertigo, WOW! movistar and itb games were 1 month ago when they were not praccing because they had tournament games every day Regards.

2023-09-07 15:46

10 replies

So...What? 1 month, 2 month...What's then? Are you denying these results? It wasn't Spirit who lost to these teams i've listed above? Your logic is pretty poor. It wasn't a year ago. It was, like YOU said, a couple of months ago. Literally. You are really strange, friend. You can't accept those losses for some reason. Regards.

2023-09-07 15:47

9 replies

also, i will have to let you know spirit would beat navi 90/100 times in which the 10 times are where spirit are unlucky or b1ad3 comes up with crazy veto.

2023-09-07 15:49

8 replies

First of all they need to learn how to qualify to top tier events. Then you can talk about beating tier 1 teams. As for now, you're just malding over the facts you cannot accept. Low attitude, my guy. Very low. Regards.

2023-09-07 15:51

7 replies

NAVI need to learn how to do that too, they never qualified for anything with new roster just got invited also this is the rankings of the teams 1. Vit 2. ENCE 3. G2 4. Heroic 5. Cloud9 6. Astralis 7. Spirit 8. Virtus.pro 9. Liquid 10. 9INE 11. NAVI Regards.

2023-09-07 15:52

6 replies

Hopefully you'll get well soon. Regards.

2023-09-07 15:55

1 reply

you too

2023-09-07 16:47

spirit 7th after no big events? what are you smoking

2023-09-07 16:40

3 replies

scroll up for reasoning i wont respond to you clones anymore

2023-09-07 16:47

2 replies

your reasoning is a hypothetical scenario that hasnt happened?

2023-09-07 17:02

1 reply

He is mentally challanged teenager. There is no reasons to argue with him since he wont understand even if you have solid proofs.

2023-09-08 04:26

This aged REALLY well Alexib hype man!

2023-11-28 06:31

top 8 is fucking hysterical ty for the laughs

2023-09-08 04:19

so far he has been a sidegrade in the same roles so idk about bad change

2023-09-06 20:40

jimpphat rating in mouz 1,01 jdc rating in mouz in 2023 0.98 jdc rating in mouz last 3 months 0.80

2023-09-06 20:40

12 replies

rating in mouz last 3 month??? how many maps. also you are forgetting that they swap around ct and t positions for him.

2023-09-06 20:44

7 replies

im not saying jdc is bad but everybody is bad in the spot jdc was given, which is support/baited

2023-09-06 20:45

6 replies

JDC is now the second highest rated player on 00nation after syrs0n and he isnt playing the bitch roles anymore

2023-09-06 20:51

5 replies

tier 5

2023-09-06 20:53

4 replies

tier 5 beating BNE, furia, astralis?

2023-09-06 20:55

2 replies

Bne is bad, furia is also mid but winning astralis with their current form is actually really impressive

2023-09-06 21:00

1 reply

if he was bad then he wouldn't do well against those teams

2023-09-07 18:22

Flag

2023-09-06 20:56

jdc playing support roles jimfat stealing roles from the others

2023-09-06 21:12

but look at xertions rating :DD IQ exposed

2023-09-07 13:09

1 reply

are you autistic?? frozen doing 1.2 before now almost 1.3 and torzi before 0.95 and now 1.25 so u must be below iq urself buddy

2023-09-07 14:21

jimphat rating in mouse 1.16 last 3 months

2023-11-12 08:29

i like jdc but jimphatt is a upgrade

2023-09-06 20:41

2 replies

He would be an upgrade over xertion. But now they both have to split some of the jdc spots and roles which makes mouz look like a circus. There's no structure it feels like. If frozen doesn't carry them then it's over.

2023-09-06 20:44

1 reply

Jimpphat is lurker and Xertion is not a lurker. Case closed.

2023-11-28 17:11

I think the biggest issue (on Lan) with the current roster has been Xertion (0,93 rating) and Siuhy (0,88 rating). Sure JDC could have been better at the start, but Jimpphat has more potential.

2023-09-06 20:41

12 replies

more potential cause he played good against t3 online? more potential cause he is 16? just delusional. just put some random lvl 10 russain kid in at this point cause he has more potential

2023-09-06 20:46

11 replies

Didn't really even need to see the flag to know you are German :D Obviously him being only 16 (SEVEN years younger than JDC) and already farming the lower tiers shows he has a lot of potential. JDC on the other hand had time to prove he is the one to keep in Mouz and he didn't do that. He only had 6/18 Lan events with over 1,00 rating.

2023-09-06 21:07

6 replies

age isnt even important in eSports. experience is much more important. i would rather have a good teamplayer who might be 22+ instead of having a depressed 16y/o onliner sitting next to me at lan.

2023-09-06 22:56

5 replies

You can clearly see that jimpphat is just in full stress on the server. Zero calmness in his pov. If he starts to get all gucci on the server we will see 1.2 rating tier 1 player in the future. Its only mentall battle rn not skill issue

2023-09-06 23:34

You have no idea what type of person Jimpphat is irl or even on the server. Mouz promoted him to the team because they knew his potential and knew he would have quickly been taken by some other team and they didn't want to lose him. Age is pretty important when thinking of a player's potential, a super young player who is already good has higher potential to become a future star than a older player who never was anything special.

2023-09-06 23:35

2 replies

jimpphat is good definition of quiet pc nerd :D

2023-09-07 13:16

1 reply

OFC jimpphat 5x better mechanics

2023-09-07 13:15

lowkey +1 :D BUT JDC aint much better atleast what ive seen

2023-09-07 13:12

Cry lmao

2023-11-28 06:33

3 replies

You first Jonty! Go to c4rns project article on body Fnatic youngsters!

2023-11-28 17:14

1 reply

2023-11-28 17:28

reviving old threads with "cry lmao"? what is this pathetic shit? xd

2023-11-28 17:50

jdc was way lower level, hes more like t3 material

2023-09-06 20:43

10 replies

He was playing the shittiest roles in the team. And mouz was looking somewhat competitive even with torszi missing 8/10 awp shots and rifle sprays. Because rolewise everyone was on their place. Now it's like what... Frozen and jimppy sharing the lurking roles with jimpphat playing worse ct spots on some maps? Xertion trying to be the second jdc but that's clearly doesn't work? How is siuhy supposed to work with this?

2023-09-06 20:47

9 replies

jimpphat got 50% new places to play atm in the map pool so its shitty for him too and hes doing better then jdc

2023-09-06 20:52

7 replies

Yes, it is shitty for him indeed because it might ruin his potential. And no, he doesn't perform better than jdc at jdc' spots.

2023-09-06 21:16

6 replies

i mean if he would overperform then jdc wouldnt be pro player

2023-09-06 21:34

5 replies

At least jdc knew how to anchor B sites on mirage and vertigo, unlike jimpphat. It's just hilarious and sad at the same time.

2023-09-06 23:10

4 replies

Well ye its new position and two months in t1 jdc was even worse when he got in t1 too. I dont see your point here

2023-09-06 23:25

3 replies

My point is, bringing in jimpphat for the jdc' place was a mistake that will negatively affect performance of several players (including jimppy) and the team overall.

2023-09-06 23:39

2 replies

We will see

2023-09-07 08:01

what

2023-11-12 08:51

Works pretty good I would say

2023-11-28 08:31

mouz always do the following: - don't attend any event for 2 months, place top 4 - don't attend any event for 2 months, flame out so really I think he is fitting on the team nicely

2023-09-06 20:48

I think highly of JDC and think the hype and attitude he brings to the team can't be replaced easily skillwise I am kinda biased towards JDC anyway so I won't argue if anyone is better I just say that Jimpphat still has much time to develop and I think he will and thats what mouz expects they only made this change for the upcoming years not for the here and now

2023-09-06 20:51

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I'm just afraid that this move will ruin jimpphat in the first place. There's not a lot of finnish players playing top tier events. So obviously I'm worried that jimppy's potential could be ruined with this move... Plus mouz as a team doesn't look well for me. Completely agree with your point about the hype and attitude though.

2023-09-06 21:26

1 reply

I don't see any way that jimppas potential is being ruined by getting experience in tier 1. At worst if he does not perform to expected level as a support/anchor in MOUZ, he will most likely move to a tier 2-3 team which would have been a logical move from nxt anyways.

2023-09-07 08:27

nah

2023-09-06 20:52

give jimmy time omg, its been like what, less than 2 months?

2023-09-06 21:08

1 reply

U know these finnish kids throw towel to the ring right aeay when they see lose xd

2023-09-06 23:38

great, you come to the internet to criticize 16y players

2023-09-06 21:11

1 reply

How did you come to this conclusion? Since when jimpphat runs mouz org?

2023-09-06 21:17

Jimpphat has played comparatively well while being a 16 year old prospect.

2023-09-06 21:31

just posted 100% KAST on inferno ct side

2023-09-06 21:47

not really? he isnt amazing atm but role-wise he was a perfect fit to replace jdc, and his ceiling is miles above jdc's (also the last 16 y/o mouz signed to their main roster ended up being an s tier rifler in the long run, dont just write him off in two months)

2023-09-06 21:51

2 replies

He was not perfect fit rolewise to replace jdc. Literally wasn't.

2023-09-06 22:52

1 reply

flag checks out he was literally brought in to replace jdc after he was promoted to the main roster AND after he was benched. even then, do you want to take away roles from frozen?

2023-09-07 09:23

Well, jimppy shits his pants as an anchor. Who woud've thought wow. Good job, mouz. I hope you will lose every single game for ruining the potential of such a promising player as jimppy.

2023-09-06 22:53

3 replies

ohh shut up, mouz is losing cause he can't get a single kill

2023-09-06 23:29

1 reply

He'd be getting all the kills if siuhy knew how to use him properly.

2023-09-06 23:45

MILK

2023-11-28 06:37

JDC was one of the best players on that shitty roster and they kick him, the support role is truly underrated

2023-09-06 23:39

4 replies

shitty roster? MOUZ? rofl please keep watching NA CS, and stay away from EU threads deluded furia enjoyer.

2023-09-07 16:15

3 replies

LOL sure buddy dexter is goated IGL and torszi is goated awper, sorry for being a hater...

2023-09-08 03:52

2 replies

dexter actually not that bad IGL and torszi is B- tier AWP Also xertion has the worst role in their team Lets not talk about Furia in the past months if you want to talk about shitty rosters ;)

2023-09-08 10:51

1 reply

who's talking about furia other than you

2023-09-08 22:07

jdc impact player not frag player

2023-09-07 13:08

The worst roster change was to keep torzi IMO. This team is average with all the space he wants.

2023-09-07 14:25

7 replies

I wouldn't say so. He's playing better under siuhy' leadership. +jimpphat made xertion and jimpphat playing worse since they're sharing some of jdc roles and spots. Even frozen switched some of his ct spots which is kinda affected his performance.

2023-09-07 14:32

2 replies

yeah, too much switched in terms of roles, but Torzi was playing more supportive roles. It helped xertion, frozen to get more kills. IMO, they should aim for a more good passive awp. Torzi agressive peek is only work against t2, maybe t1,5 teams. Like Osee in Liquid, mouz is always losing time. I don't see torzi as a top10 awper.

2023-09-07 16:01

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We shall wait still, torszi was a monster with siuhy as IGL, owning basically any other awper, m0nesy inculding. I honestly didn't expect him to get THIS better after such a short period of time. I guess after a few more events he'll be somewhat consistent in terms of awping. He's not a passive one. And i think it's a good thing when you have players like jimpphat and frozen. The first is very passive, and the second is somewhat between passive and agressive player. A perfectly balanced rifler. Mouz had probably one of the best T sides with previous roster, even with torszi missing his shots. And that's because rolewise the team was almost perfect.

2023-09-07 16:11

Siuhy wanted him to stay

2023-09-07 14:33

3 replies

#92. about the other thread who was deleted. I don't understand why woro2k is igling if you already have 2 meh young players (kraznal and br0). sdy is an okay player, but honestly, he is not a star player. So, basically, monte is relying on demq and sdy (which is kinda odd) to feed kills.

2023-09-07 16:04

2 replies

There was no IGL and Krasnal is a support and B player and sometimes he's okey.On other hand Br0 showed nothing really so far.I think Woro is good if he has no IGL no him like u saw on major.I would be fine with IGL and a better rifler for Br0 and Krasnal.

2023-09-07 18:20

1 reply

I agree the urkainian trio is fine, but they need either a new igl or a boros type of rifler to compensate the lack of a "real igl". For ex, Hampus in this team look be better IMO as a mid caller.

2023-09-07 18:50

JDC is better player,but not in roles mouz gave him.jimphhat was support both in nxt and in main

2023-09-07 16:13

2023-09-07 17:04

00nation > mouz

2023-09-07 17:08

Obviously a bait, judging an anchor player that has played only one tier 1 tournament so far.

2023-09-07 18:52

1 reply

2023-11-12 08:18

he's 16 lmao, give him time he's just warming up

2023-09-08 04:13

-rep Don't blame an 16 year old dude ...

2023-09-08 12:00

The problem is that jimpphat used to play lurk but mouse already have frozen

2023-09-08 12:05

almost all of you missed the point, he isnt flaming jimpphat. he is flaming mouz, because jimpphat doesnt really fit on mouz roster right now and because of tha many of the roles and positions are fucked now.

2023-09-08 12:49

4 replies

Yeaaaaah

2023-09-08 22:08

Yeah, sadly he will never frag in the positions they put him in :/

2023-11-28 06:35

1 reply

:(:(:( (content)

2023-11-28 07:13

What a stupid ass comment with 0 knowledge what really happened. Jimpphat's contract was ending and because of that Mouz were forced to either sell him for peanuts or upgrade him to main roster. Jimpphat also fits the roster really good because he is good lurker and overall very safe player. There is also a reason why Jimpphat has more trophies that JDC in 2 months of playing in tier 1.

2023-11-28 17:16

aged well

2023-11-12 08:33

2023-11-12 08:34

He is right. For other teams it was a bad move, since Mouz is cooking right now

2023-11-12 08:35

Bro had no idea

2023-11-28 06:42

3 replies

now that real teams started playing, mouz can no longer farm t2 tournaments, they'll be back to their usual top 10-15 placement in no time

2023-11-28 07:41

2 replies

i dont think they are top3 team but solid top 6 definitely. they have basically lost only to faze after EPL win (that one loss to Spirit doesnt matter since it was online)

2023-11-28 17:25

1 reply

they lost to Faze 4 times, and they are yet to play new Vitality, G2, Cloud9, Astralis, Ence, all of which are better. Navi, as garbage as they are, still better than Mouz imo. I'll be honest, the biggest problem is torzsi, until they kick that bot, they'll never be a stable top5 team

2023-11-28 20:46

This aged well

2023-11-28 07:09

JDC was garbage, even Bymas better

2023-11-28 07:53

wdym lol

2023-11-28 08:07

2 replies

Dude is a fan of Aleksib so his sense of reality may differ from normal people view.

2023-11-28 08:24

1 reply

2023-11-28 08:30

Lmayo nice thread

2023-11-28 08:32

10 replies

Thank you for bump, little friend ;)))) Regards

2023-11-28 10:12

9 replies

I wasnt the one bumping it but I'm just here to tell you're an idiot lul.

2023-11-28 13:01

8 replies

And i will report you for an insult. Enjoy it, friend. Regards

2023-11-28 13:03

7 replies

I will, ty

2023-11-28 13:03

there's a difference between objective fact and insults

2023-11-28 17:07

2 replies

What objective fact, friend? Regards

2023-11-28 17:22

Yes there is, and this was a case of an insult without any objectivity so whats your point

2023-11-28 17:27

Well it was a stupid comment. Mouz was forced to upgrade Jimpphat to their roster or sell him. Of course they keep the 16 yo prodigy instead of the 23yo tier 2 player. Also JDC 0 trophies Jimpphat 1.

2023-11-28 17:18

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Look at the date this thread was made. Jimppy was bad then, and i didn't expect him to improve so fast. Lots of people didn't expect it. I can't say I'm mad after i got proved wrong though. I love Jimppy. Regards

2023-11-28 17:21

1 reply

Oh that makes more sense. But anyway it was forced choice for Mouz since they don't want to lose him for nothing.

2023-11-28 17:28

-Aleksibot +jdc Regards,

2023-11-28 17:12