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how would you fix heroic?
rules:
- no going international
- realistic changes
- needs to keep cadian, stavn and xizt
just go international
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And +who? Only thing that made heroic good ever was coms and team play
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Only stars like spinx will make them better
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mupzg
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real
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teams dont need to change players to become good. remember how astralis suddenly became the best team? well it wasnt that sudden, it happened after many loses until they finally found their fixes, and kicking players wasnt an option for them : just like i hope heroic is :)
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+magisk was the reason then.
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+1
Would be so good
wouldn't sound too bad, as long as Buzz stays since device wants him to stay and is the reason he's still on the roster :v
+1
Dude is talking facts
why would cadian downgrade? he's on his verge winning major with the team, rank #2 in the world. all of them have the same firepower except sjuush and teses which had over 1.05 rating which is OKAYISH
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If CadiaN went to Liquid, oSee AND Yekindarr should leave.
Yekindar will not let go of his influence, CadiaN needs full authority, and Patsi is like a Yekindar without igl ambitions anyway.
Cadian, Patsi, NAF, +2
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+dupreeh -anyone
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xdddd
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Altekz deserves better
Teses is the only heroic player who doesnt choke in big games.
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Well, I’d like to give that to stavn ngl. But yes, TeSeS tends to be relatively consistent in the big games. My reasoning for benching him is mostly based on what the best non Astralis players are. Altekz is arguably the best of them and I reckon that his best fit is in TeSeS role. But its hard to tell
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Nah he's not an upgrade over any heroic players
sell your players to astralis
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dupreeh is nice but k0nfig is mid af
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Well the problem is that K0nfig can disappear/appear at any moment. He could face Vitality and play the game of his life and then the next day go 0.70 against a random faceit stack from Indonesia. Unless he joins a really stacked team where he can afford to bomb out some matches, he will always be a liability.
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"Unless he joins a really stacked team where he can afford to bomb out some matches, he will always be a liability." Yeah, like Heroic.
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Tbf Stavn, Teses, Jabbi and Shuush are all very good player, they're all potential top 20 players and I believe can be star players in a different team.
no fixes for heroic but astralis should trade b0rup for sjuush
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Sjuush the only consistent player there lul .
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That would be stavn, sjuush don't need to put star player numbers anyway ,also they all disappear not his only fault .
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Nah I checked stavn is fine but teses got more drop off than sjuush so can't blame him alone .
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> heroic fix
> keep comedian
pick one
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yes lets kick him and replace him with Lucky
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neaLAN
+dupreeh and problem solved
This wont change anything if you can't remove CadiaN, I'm not saying its his fault at all but theres no other danish riflers that would make this team better than they currently are. Only way things change is with a huge change, either disband or kick CadiaN and someone else to get a new IGL and AWPer, however I think this would be even worse than disband tbh lmao
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+1
Why keeping Stavn is necessary? I think they should cash in on Stavn and use that money to buy build up their new team. Stavn always goes missing in big games.
disband
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dupreeh is washed off
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LMFaO
Im right, cant deny it. :P
-TeSeS +k0nfig
TeSeS is not a bad player but a lot of people would agree to remove him, k0nfig may be inconsistent sure but when he heats up, he can be the guy to take over games as the star with his monster mechanics. He also plays a lot of similar roles to TeSeS. TeSeS plays for map control with stavn and plays CT anchor, k0nfig rn plays as a t lurker and ct anchor but k0nfig fighting in the middle for map control with Stavn on t side is the dream, he can take head on aim duels and build up confidence, then play as anchor on CT side.
Get Gla1ve
-Teses +dupreeh
-Xizt (not the best coach for them) +zonic
+sports psychologist
+secondary caller
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vitality won't sell zonic if they didn't get 5 millions from him, and heroic don't any money to buy even mid coach
heroic are a good team they dont need to be fixed, i think jabbi has just been struggling lately. After some time he'll probably return to form. When jabbi first joined he was pretty mid but over time he improved a lot. Now the same thing kind of happening after player break, but slowly I think he will rebound to that form again
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+1
Teses not doing too well this event either that also hurting them since he was overperforming past events .
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nicoodoz, this guy is actually pretty damn good with both the awp and rifle. He has some nice one taps with the ak.
altekz, very underrated young player. Great entry, but his ct positioning and awareness needs some work.
glaive, one of the best igls (if not THE best) of csgo. Can definitely build a title winning team again.
Stavn, incredibly consistent rifler that has stage fright? I think with different teammates this might be fixed.
jabbi, amazing lurker with huge potential to become even better.
Xizt (coach)
TeSeS and sjuush are hard to remove, but if you look at this squad it just fits way better this way.
Cadian is one of the best teammates to have when you are winning, but when he becomes silent it's gameover lol. Without an awp he is at karrigan level imo.
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Bring back Hunden and his drones (coachbug) and Heroic will be a banger team once again !!!
Cadian,stavn,sjuush,dupreeh,estag idk maybe young players instead of estag and dupreeh.
going international would make them worse anyways, since their synergy is one of their greatest strengths
No realistic moves would be interesting, at most, they'd probably kick teses and pick up ess3tag. but i really dont think they'll break the bank to make a superteam before CS2.
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they won't break the bank since they don't have money anyway, even if they sell teses, he is worth like 350k
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Yeah i was very close to editing my comment to add: "and frankly, they just cant afford to make a superteam" , Danish organizations are very healthy and some personel aside, they have very commendable practices...but the other side of that coin is that they dont have the retarded amounts of money that other orgs that take venture capital have to make superteams.
Honestly, i dont even think Astralis could afford a Danish superteam, the buyouts are too high.
Bring alexsib to heroic , he can play alone vs 5 , ez major for heroic
-teses
+dupreeh
-jabbi
+xyp9x/es3tag
Heroic needs to focus on the individual level. They are already very well bonded, they just need to get shots in. They constantly lose the pistol rounds, and comeback through clever play, but clever play is not going to withstand. CadiaN has especially gotten a really low 2.0 rating, perhaps change his awping style?
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Bro said farlig 💀💀
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nicoodoz
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If this was on the back of Katowice or something back to back to back events then yes sure they may need changes
But it isn't, its after a pretty long break at one of the worst 'prestige' events in tier 1, at a time when the replacement game is slated to somehow be releasing soon
Literally 0 need for them to change anything
-cadian
+device
No changes needed
Should start grinding cs2
BlameF IGL
Devve Awp
Buzz Lurk
Konfig rifle
Staehr anchor
I think those are the roles they do
just let heroic go bankrupt and bring over sjuush stavn xizt over to astralis
+snappi
+device
-cadian
-sjuss
-teses
+1 danish rifler
if still doesnt work get someone to igl lmao
but even MsLul < Luldian
A few bad games and hltv users go nuts. Heroic has been the most consistent team over the last 2 years. They do not need changes.
-teses +dupreeh
their options are pretty shit, astralis obviously wont sell them any players unless they pay them gazillion dollars
preasy players are mid, yeah nico is an better awp than cadian but then you would need an igl and all are bots much worse than cadian (glaive, MSL or raalz all guaranteed -20 consistently)
maybe buy tauson/zyphon from sprout but even then its not a guaranteed upgrade
"international" option would be isak, susp, adamb or maybe joel but still not guaranteed upgrades
go international, kick cadian, stavn and xizt
to the people saying -cadian, might as well just disband the team
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