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Forcebuys and ecos
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Japan Ixlide 
I haven't played CS in a long time, but been watching a lot of competitive matches lately Is it really that hard to win against forcebuys and eco rounds now? Even in tier-1 scene, teams have been losing lots of rounds against shitty buys, pistols without armor etc, throwing their economy away and letting their economical advantages go easily Why is it happening so frequently?
2023-09-09 11:11
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strats of forces seem to be evolving, and anti forces don't seem to be catching up
2023-09-09 11:12
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only the nub teams cant handle them, but its ok soon only gun rounds with 0 ecos cuz new economy right?
2023-09-09 11:49
pistols too strong
2023-09-09 11:15
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#5
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Japan Ixlide
you'd think 5 m4s and aks would be stronger than a bunch of pistols/mp9s/galils
2023-09-09 11:16
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when tec-9 is one tap close range its basically an ak close range.
2023-09-09 11:47
I guess it depends on map. In lot of maps you cannot avoid closer range encounters, thus range advantage and consequently the damage falloff and lower accuracy of smgs, shotguns and pistols is minimized. Also in some maps number of positions you can play as CT is very limited, thus making you easy to prefire.
2023-09-09 11:30
#7
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England Ap0cA1yps3
I think it's just they way people play on ecos force. It's either a crazy unexpected push or a stack or they hide in good corners/angles. So I guess unless u get the right read or info its hard to play against cuz u could walk into a stack. Get flashed and destroyed by 4 players or u have to check every angle but then u catch a bad timing and get killed while checking. Or u don't check and just die It is still surprising how often they win though. But I can see how they're somewhat effective
2023-09-09 11:29
#8
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Barbados P0vTr
Speaking of DEagle, overall skill of players with the gun just increased drastically. Back in the days you could say Lekr0 or NiKo were the best deags, now everyone is equally insane with it
2023-09-09 11:31
Those eco-/orce buy wins are those which you would remember so it seems to you that they happen frequently but in fact not really
2023-09-09 11:32
pros hit so many first bullet headshots that ecos are very scary
2023-09-09 11:32
The best teams were always the ones that could turn ecos/forcebuys around to their advantage...breaking the other team's economy is a massive win mid-game. I wouldn't say it's more frequently though.
2023-09-09 11:33
I feel like teams are disrespecting ecos and forcebuys. Deagles and 5-7s in the hands of good aimers can easily win rounds.
2023-09-09 11:36
#15
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Bhutan woogah
boring af, just remove the economy pls
2023-09-09 11:46
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#18
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Japan Ixlide
nah economy should play a crucial part in competitive scene imo
2023-09-09 12:22
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#19
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Bhutan woogah
but it just sucks in cs. maybe it isnt deep enough, theres very little strategy or anything. you just have some throwaway kamikaze rounds every so often that are a boring stomp most of the time
2023-09-09 12:36
#20
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Australia jerrry
Valve want op pistols because they don’t understand cs and think that every round should have equal chance of winning. They are clueless
2023-09-09 12:45
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#21
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Japan Ixlide
every round having an equal chance is such a bs concept I think
2023-09-09 12:50
#23
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Australia jerrry
exactly. Valve continue to encourage close games and comebacks for shit teams, and then force Mr12 because "matches are too long" - IT'S THEIR FAULT!
2023-09-09 13:15
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