Forum thread: Broky it's time

Impact rating is a useless stat for the way karrigan uses him

2023-09-17 19:17

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Its not necessarily about the way of karrigan using him. Woxic and GuardiaN never had these impact issues. FaZe analysts also said that this passive style of broky is kind of problem and they want to force him to play agressive

2023-09-17 19:18

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Because Karrigan is using his players differently depending on the type of player, as a good igl does

2023-09-17 19:19

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karrigan is not winning anything and team is just getting worse and worse, as a good igl does

2023-09-17 19:23

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Its not like Alekseib has done anything as an igl in his whole career

2023-09-17 19:24

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ok and? i am not talking about him

2023-09-17 19:25

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you clearly have him as a flair for a reason

2023-09-17 19:25

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clapped faze easy

2023-09-17 19:41

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Lol, that was 1 game in his whole career where he actually called good. So pls come with an real arguement next time you write to mens

2023-09-17 19:42

Doesn't mean that using a player contrary to their playstyle would help the situation. Broky had the exact same playstyle when they won the grand slam

2023-09-17 19:28

Well, one thought is that, karrigan has been igl for quite some time eh? Eventually people get to know his style and learn how to read him. Also, I think there's a timelimit to how long you should igl. The game evolves, teams evolve, and, in FaZe's shoes, they have all stayed the same, i believe. I think they need to renew their game. And in todays CS you seriously NEED an incredible or at least above mediocre awper, and broky's not it. Not saying he is a bad player, he would probably do better on some other team, maybe he does not fit into karrigans team well enough to get the most out of him.

2023-09-17 19:29

>on the type of player so its player's fault that he cant deliver with agressive moves, not IGL's?

2023-09-17 19:26

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To an extent, yes? Some players are naturally more passive, some are naturally more aggressive. The reason Faze won a Grand Slam while having Broky be super passive is because they balanced it out with Rain and Karrigan being hyper aggressive. It is all about the team composition and how to make use of the players' strengths. Also, Broky's aggression comes in a way that isn't tracked by impact rating because he is coming alive in midrounds after the initial fighting has taken place. I can't remember who is was, it might've been a Fnatic player but someone mentioned that Broky is a weird mix of passive and aggressive because he makes some crazy aggressive plays in the midround, just not in the early round(which is where Karrigan and Rain take most fights)

2023-09-17 19:31

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Broky going for mid round agressions is exclusive for specific maps like overpass/ancient, basically best maps for AWPer. Also it exclusegily goes with FaZe taking early agression on dynamic zones like mid or on other side of the map. So broky can go for safe agression with information given by his teammates, with exact knowledge where to put himself to get frags

2023-09-17 19:41

It is Karrigan's fault that botky couldn't hit a guy with scout on anti eco 13 9?

2023-09-17 20:21

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Did I say that?

2023-09-17 20:23

regali 1.26 hltv.org/stats/players/20123/regali?star..

2023-09-17 19:19

broky is the problem but rain and karrigan are also washed.

2023-09-17 19:18

Impact rating is just a stat of how aggro an awper is lmao, obviously broky isn't an aggro awper, he has a far higher opening % attempt rate in EPL, and look how his impacts gone for him now

2023-09-17 19:18

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Yes because they want an aggro awper and broky can't, so it's pretty obvious he's the first one to be benched out of karrigan / rain. He also seems to miss easy shots consistently that cost rounds.

2023-09-17 19:28

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How is it he can't lol? As I said, he has been made more aggro this tourney and he has a rlly good opening attempt success rate, with an avg awpers attempt rate at about 20 iirc, he did miss some shots on nuke that could've saved them sure, but you can't pin a 13 9 choke on broky alone, maybe 1 or 2 instances where they could've got a round cause of him, but again, the losses vs ecos and like 2 rifles, aren't all on broky.

2023-09-17 19:56

ZywOo farming stats

2023-09-17 19:19

broky is good, people hates him for no reason hltv.org/stats/players/events/18053/brok..

2023-09-17 19:20

kicking any of the faze player at this point will be a stupid move they should wait until first major of CS2, this roster is good enough unless they have internal friction

2023-09-17 19:20

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good for top4 never to win like heroic

2023-09-17 19:22

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they can get better and capable of lifting trophies we should lax our standards a bit in this case

2023-09-17 19:48

saffee 1.08 lmao hltv.org/stats/players/18835/saffee?star..

2023-09-17 19:21

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he said tier 1 awpers

2023-09-17 19:25

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> tier1 > acor point?

2023-09-17 19:53

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I was talking about awpers in tier 1 teams. not actual tier 1 awpers. That's why my list includes acor but not saffee

2023-09-17 20:39

impact also depend's on team's playstyle. Passive awpers don't have chance to make high impact.

2023-09-17 19:22

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you're confusing cause with the effect... Reason why FaZe dont put broky in agressive rounds because he is not good enough in doing agressive moves.

2023-09-17 19:24

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lol, you want to say that headtr1ck who made with aleksi 1.2r was moved to passive 0 impact sniper when hampus came back cause of his skill

2023-09-17 19:28

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Headtr1ck is kind of player in the making. He hasnt found his style yet and he will need another year, right now he is just doing what coach/IGL tells him to do. Broky is 25 y.on grown ass man who played 3 years and he was always passive from the beginning.

2023-09-17 19:33

Just plain wrong here. With players such a rain and twistzz that are know to be agressive ur just not gonna have space to play aggressively. Also ropz has lately become way more agressive and space creating so there is literally no point in broky doing more.

2023-09-17 19:30

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>ur just not gonna have space to play agressively. I never heard a SINGLE interview where some pro player or IGL said about this bullshit about riflers taking space out from AWPers... NaVi had elec and boomb4, both dynamic players. S1mple didnt care about it and was always agressive. G2 have NiKo, HooXi and huNter at the same time. Is that a problem for m0nesy to do agressive actions? Same goes for Sunpayus and ENCE where besides dycha - all the players are agressive as fuck.

2023-09-17 19:37

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Broky simply doesn't have the ego to ask for the space, and willingly will take worse roles, and that's what he's done, but in this event as of far, you can see a switch up a lil with him going more aggro, and when he does go more aggro at the right time, it's not often he will lose his team that opportunity, and it's worked well with like a 65% opening attempt success rate

2023-09-17 19:58