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United States 2ScoopsTooMany 
2023-09-17 23:00
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2023-09-17 23:00
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Poland 21x05
No one forces you to watch it 🙂👍🤠👇
2023-09-17 23:01
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thats what i am complaining dude. i didnt watch 99% of them cus none of them are worth a watch. this crappy 'tourney' is holding the entire pro scene hostage for 5 weeks only to have matchups like 9z vs tyloo 90% of the time with occasional navi vs faze once a week. gtfo of here lol.
2023-09-17 23:14
5 replies
Why didn't you write this as your first comment instead of "braa shit braa"? We could have had some value on this thread
2023-09-17 23:16
1 reply
i thought everyone felt this too and that'll be the discussion gonna have, not all the dummies here dickriding this format lol
2023-09-18 00:41
Cry about it epl has been a lot of fun so far
2023-09-18 01:02
1 reply
define fun
2023-09-18 01:20
he's got a point though
2023-09-18 04:44
United States JuuJJJ
never seen emojis on hltv before lmao
2023-09-18 00:27
1 reply
wtf dude🤣🤣🤡
2023-09-18 00:28
They need to fix the format in last chance stage because unfair for team to play 2 matches in one day where other team doesn't. Apart from that its all good.
2023-09-17 23:01
if the goal is to have t2 teams get into the big stage, then do a big t2 event and let them duke it out there, then put the winners into the big league, not create a 5 week series dragged out only for most of them to be eliminated, while barely any good teams played against each other, only for the post-stage to be the same as any other tournaments anyway.
2023-09-17 23:03
9 replies
well this is much better than BLAST inviting EG and seeing them play. dont you agree?
2023-09-17 23:03
5 replies
of course i disagree. id much rather watch Blast with 90% t1 teams playing t1 teams with the one odd eg match where i dont have to watch, unlike this crap where it's the exact opposite. 1 good match the whole week and then everything else is eg vs m90 vs 8z vs tyloo. you literally left yourself wide open for rekt to take a shot at EG who me and most muricans dont care about lol.
2023-09-17 23:16
4 replies
well you are complaining about bullshit though you cant complain about a fair system that allows teams to progress further what you are doing is like complaining about why open qualifiers exist.. they are mandatory for the final product of a tier1 grand final. does anyone force you to go download demos of open qualifiers and watch teams beat tier4-5 mixes? just because these matches exist doesnt mean you have to watch them!!! then dont watch ESL PRO LEAGUE, or at least its early stages
2023-09-17 23:20
2 replies
youre missing the point. i have no issue with t2 teams doing their things and then reaching t1 tourneys. if theyre actually good theyd beat some t1 teams and maybe even make top 8. but this tourney is holding the circuit hostage for 5 WEEKS and produce 1 good match per week. THATS MY ISSUE. and then all these t2 teams which will be not qualify anyway so why even bother with this
2023-09-17 23:55
1 reply
some enjoy more cs to be watched while also being fine with only tier2
2023-09-18 00:11
Yeah. Why bother tier1 teams to get out of their comfort zones, play some "random" cs, see how people differ etc. And why would we have Gamerlegion going up to major final, right? They fluke and so on :D Here is the thing, the better plays and wins and people need to step up in major scenes just like the major itself. So is epl such a scene, the answer is yes to me. Do we see t1 teams dominating t2 3 teams so we can be fed up with the unsuccessful performances of t2 3 teams? No. Not in an environment where there were tens of threads in this site people claiming tier2 teams are even better than tier1 teams, I don't think so. Epl decided to turn into an event in which you take your tea and enjoy the games instead of bursting energy with a week of fast matches. Thats the real cs when teams get mixed, when you say "tyloo has really mechanically gifted players but they suck at...", that's real football when real loses to sheriff
2023-09-18 01:18
Canada Virauve
This is already happening, it's called ESL Pro League. So you're issue isn't ESL Pro League, because it's your suggestion for how it should be, you are complaining that you're watching it? You see the problem here, don't you?
2023-09-17 23:07
2 replies
you missed my point, i want the t2 team to be on their own tournaments, while t1 plays their normal tourneys. and then have the t2 winners sprinkled in on the next esl event. NOT have a tournament where its t2 teams and t1 teams play but t1 team only play once out of 5 and the rest are filler t2 events, and this whole ordeal repeats itself 5 times while no t1 team can be at other tourneys.
2023-09-17 23:12
1 reply
This is extremely stupid
2023-09-17 23:16
Finland Alwaysjesal
2023-09-17 23:02
stop being cringe bro
2023-09-17 23:02
I mean, you don't need to watch it brother
2023-09-17 23:03
2 replies
thats what i am complaining dude. i didnt watch 99% of them cus none of them are worth a watch. this crappy 'tourney' is holding the entire pro scene hostage for 5 weeks only to have matchups like 9z vs tyloo 90% of the time with occasional navi vs faze once a week. gtfo of here lol.
2023-09-17 23:09
This months should have been taken by some better event.
2023-09-18 01:20
Finland z0re1
bro bored at last csgo tournament
2023-09-17 23:04
2 replies
2023-09-17 23:45
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Canada QTAW
2023-09-18 00:57
you can just watch the playoffs if these games bore you so much lil bro
2023-09-17 23:07
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thats what i am complaining dude. i didnt watch 99% of them cus none of them are worth a watch. this crappy 'tourney' is holding the entire pro scene hostage for 5 weeks only to have matchups like 9z vs tyloo 90% of the time with occasional navi vs faze once a week. gtfo of here lol.
2023-09-17 23:09
2 replies
The event isnt the problem the schedule is. They could just bang all the groups at the same time but I guess they want to cash out on half time ad viewership or something
2023-09-17 23:19
thats a very subjective view. me for example, I always enjoy seeing lesser known teams compete against the big dogs +EPL always has great production wich makes it fun to watch even when the game is EG vs Ence or some other guaranteed stomp - if you believe these games to be crappy that's just your (pretty dumb I'd say) opinion.
2023-09-18 01:16
I think that instead of EPL brackets we should see the cast on the couch fooling around until upper bracket final and playoffs.
2023-09-17 23:18
African Union eyoeyoklk
CCT way better, where NA actually has any chance
2023-09-17 23:22
Armenia VirtusNo
SpunJ has a Lan party in his basement and you call it uneventful cos he didnt invite you?
2023-09-17 23:23
Scotland TWGKofi
Do it 1x a year and I'd like it, maybe they would be able to do it with an actual crowd at an actual venue. My only complaint is that the whole of Playoffs is held in a basement.
2023-09-17 23:30
I hate these new tournament formats where teams have like 4 last chances before being eliminated, it just makes for so many unnecessary games with no hype. Besides that having teams play their playoffs almost a month after the group phase is ridiculous
2023-09-17 23:38
It’s groups, do you understand this? Seriously why don’t you just start watching at playoffs instead of torture yourself on purpose
2023-09-17 23:57
3 replies
this is not like normal tourneys where the groups is 5 days long. this shit is 5 weeks long hence the complain bruh. scrap this format. maybe even scrap the tourney.
2023-09-18 00:40
2 replies
But like you’re making it seem like it’s an inconvenience to people who are fans of watching cs. If this wasn’t going on right now you’d be watching online matches which is way more boring than even this
2023-09-18 00:43
1 reply
no, there would be more t1 tourneys on going instead of locked in for 5 weeks of groups. thats the point im making. we could be watching another esl or blast instead of this crap. and the t2ers can duke it out themselves while at it.
2023-09-18 03:52
just watch playoffs
2023-09-18 00:13
I agree EPL takes so ridiculously long, and then the playoffs don't even have a crowd to elevate the experience for a supposedly prestigious event? Also, the last chance stage is utter shit. I like lower bracket systems. If you had an off day, you can prove to everyone that you deserve to play at the tournament by being given a second chance. However, if you go to the last chance stage, you dont deserve to be there. Why waste the viewers' time making the worst of the worst duke it out in a bo3? It causes the entire event to drag on indefinitely
2023-09-18 00:22
No one cares about this event with CS2 being so close to release and people playing it.
2023-09-18 00:36
I think I missed the point or something here. What you described is "Let's have t2 compete in their own tourneys while t1 competes on what they normally compete and get the t2 promoted to ESL after they qualified enough" What happens in ESL is "There's X amount of "t1" partnered teams on the tourney already and the others that get to join are the ones who won local qualifiers (aka, the lower leagues) and they get to compete twice a year" My brother in Christ, what you want is exactly what happens to the lower teams when they join EPL?
2023-09-18 00:38
Yugoslavia GumGuyHLTV
and c9 bodied spirit 2-0 fml robbed of 1 more good map of csgo
2023-09-18 01:00
bring back old epl with group stage, then lan playoffs
2023-09-18 01:02
Latvia ViatoR
The only thing I hate is how long this crap is... Keep it rolling until it's done. CPL used to be open to anyone to show up, tons of teams, tons of games. But it kept going, and it ended. Let people watch pros vs noobs, or up-coming teams that sometimes made an upset or cut it close. But then before you knew it, all the no0body teams were out and the relevant teams were playing eachother for the title. A month for a tourney? Oh hell no... They do 2, or 3 matches most of the time. Like the hell is this crap!
2023-09-18 01:04
United States RAF_SIMONS
T2 matchups are much more fun to watch than t1 unless Ence is playing.
2023-09-18 01:07
Old format 100x better. I remember watching almost every game. Now I can't bother to watch most of them
2023-09-18 01:14
just dont watch it lol watch this instead
2023-09-18 01:18
i think they have seen it too, 15-30 k viewers on main stream every game, literally no one is watching that snoozefest. ESL have to make some changes
2023-09-18 04:33
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