Forum thread: players too good for their teams

NiKo he needs a team with s1mple zywoo rifling and let dev1ce awp

2023-09-19 10:22

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niko was good on OG

2023-09-19 10:20

vexite

2023-09-19 11:52

the biggest superstar team of all time

2023-09-20 10:09

FRank Reynolds youtube.com/shorts/71NCJXlK8_Q?feature=s.. Clears Niko by far

2023-09-20 18:12

I mean, it depends on what you mean by "too good" because to judge that we have to look at the tier 1 teams that employ players of a certain standard. G2 employs Hooxi so technically everyone on a team that pays less than G2 pays hooxi is playing too good for their team and instead should be on G2 instead of this bot.

2023-09-19 10:15

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ratio

2023-09-19 10:16

Man please just stick to politics cuz CS takes ain't your strong suit

2023-09-19 10:18

I reckon what he means is, which one player is so far ahead of his teammates that he could easily find a much better team If that is the case, I agree with frozen & mezii and would add Xantares + tabseN

2023-09-19 10:19

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Tabsen maybe 3 years ago… only good player on that roster is Krimbo now

2023-09-20 11:54

w0nderful syrs0n k1to kscerato

2023-09-19 10:15

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K1to lmfao

2023-09-19 11:28

k1to good, unfortunately not consistent -> fits OG perfectly lol

2023-09-19 11:31

krimbo maybe, not k1to

2023-09-20 10:09

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krimbo is garbage

2023-09-22 10:06

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hltv.org/stats/players/19899/krimbo?star.. He isn't garbage lol

2023-09-22 10:13

compared to k1to, yes

2023-09-22 19:18

device deserves actual team&igl blamef on T side holding 1 super passive angle (sometimes even from spawn) waiting for things to happen. KScerato boombl4 past Tabsen but that ship has sailed

2023-09-19 10:17

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eh he plays more entry roles now and sacrifices a lot for his younger players; hes still pretty sick

2023-09-19 11:50

agreed. devv's new form is outstanding but unfortunately his team cannot keep up

2023-09-19 11:51

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im honestly not too suprised an 18yo stearh from tier 2 (19 now i think) a faceit half pro and a guy who didnt play tier 1 in a few years cant keep up with the top of tier 1 atm - takes time brother but they're cooking already

2023-09-19 12:42

+1 devvk1ng would be top 3 player on a good team

2023-09-20 00:08

"blamef on T side holding 1 super passive angle (sometimes even from spawn) waiting for things to happen." You're just making shit up unless you mean on Overpass where the spawn literally is the A site. And he usually plays connector, so that doesn't make any sense either.

2023-09-20 10:36

Kscerato and Insani. Kscerato, Insani, Device, NiKo and Boombl4 = new CS2 era

2023-09-19 10:18

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bruh i was knifing insani in cs2 on-demand 2 days ago. dude is whack.

2023-09-22 09:59

0/8 for frozen He has a good team and he's fairly overrated as well

2023-09-19 10:19

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2023-09-20 09:28

krimbo

2023-09-19 10:21

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i see krimbo being a broky-esque player in international lineup

2023-09-19 10:23

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so here was mentioned: Kito Syrson and Krimbo... i think we don't need to talk about tabsen... why didn't it work when they played together?

2023-09-19 10:37

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kito way too streaky . syrson is an acutal onliner + seems like somewhat of an antimate krimbo should work in any team. good personality + appropriate gamesense and skill

2023-09-19 10:53

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thats also my pov--- but not #3

2023-09-19 11:16

kscerato for sure

2023-09-19 10:23

jks of course

2023-09-19 10:24

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0/8

2023-09-19 11:05

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Zero bait visualised

2023-09-20 00:07

SunPayus w0nderful XANTARES Krimbo Altekz & nicoodoz

2023-09-19 10:27

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sunpayus as if he isnt already in one of the best current teams in the world

2023-09-19 10:35

sunpayus? where else would he go

2023-09-19 10:59

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Any team with a consistent rifler really Dycha, Nertz and Maden are all super inconsistent against top teams Sunpayus is the only reason why they ever get to playoffs tbh, without him they'd be in the top15 at best

2023-09-19 11:03

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Nertz: 1.08 against the top 10 Maden: 1.03 against the top 10 Dycha: 1.02 against the top 10

2023-09-20 00:22

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1.03 and 1.02 are not good stats, it's mediocre at best. I'll admit that I hadn't looked at stats when I made this comment, so Nertz actually looks to play good on paper. I just feel like most of the time when I watched them in playoffs, Nertz wasn't performing, but maybe I'm just thinking about Cologne

2023-09-20 08:24

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Nertz is a huge playoffs chocker, even in Gamers8 when he was annihilating before playoffs in the important games he fell off massively

2023-09-20 10:52

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So I'm not crazy? haha

2023-09-20 11:30

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Nah bro I need my man Nertz to get over that so he can be top 20, he has top 10 potential

2023-09-20 15:02

Against the top 10 anything over 1.00 is good. You are playing the best of the best and bringing positive value to the team.

2023-09-20 13:19

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Considering you don't expect the IGL to perform like the rest the rule of thumb is above 1.05 to be acceptable and above 1.1 to be good

2023-09-20 15:05

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As general stats yes, not against the top 10 tho. There’s VERY few players with a 1.1 against the top 10.

2023-09-20 15:36

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I'd consider very few players to be consistently good rather than satisfactory against top 10 teams but on Vit (2023) for example: Zywoo- 1.28 Spinx- 1.16 Magisk- 1.08 FlameZ- 1.07 So they're the best team in the world because besides the IGL they're all either satisfactory (above 1.05) and two stars Of course being consistently good against top 10 means you're an insane player and being decent means you're very good

2023-09-20 18:07

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FlameZ has a 0.97 against the top 10 over the period I used for the ENCE numbers, 6 months. Also making the best team in the world and defending Major champs the standard is a bit ridiculous no?

2023-09-20 18:10

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For 2023 he has 1.07, if you want to win majors I don't think it's a high standards and Sunpayus is major winner level player (at least in current form)

2023-09-20 18:22

In the top10 itself 6/10 teams have two players with 1.1+ rating against the top10 and most of the time with one or two more with 1.05+ The exceptions are Heroic - They have 4/5 players with a 1.05+ rating against the top10. With their playstyle, where everyone gets to have impact, this is expected GL - I don't even know how they are still in the top10, HLTV rankings are weird lol Mouz - Also not a consistent top10 team, although both Frozen and Torzsi have had 1.1+ ratings last three months (Frozen 1.32 wtf) And then Ence - They haven't had any period of time where anyone other than Sunpayus had 1.1+ rating or a period where Dycha, Maden or Snappi even had a 1.05 rating against top10. Snappi is a great caller, but his players are underperforming, except for Sunpayus and then Nertz half of the time

2023-09-22 09:25

Nope, he has a good team. Yes Yes Yes Idk

2023-09-19 10:59

if u only see stats sunpayus look like the only star player there , but imo how this team play they are definitely not relying on only 1 player to pop off

2023-09-20 00:24

XANTARES as if he isnt already in one of the best current teams in the world

2023-09-20 08:33

I would argue for Naf, that Liquid rebuild was abysmal and Naf definitely has the skill still to play in a top 10 team

2023-09-19 10:31

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-roej +naf, fnatic top 5

2023-09-19 11:23

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That just sounds gross lol.

2023-09-20 00:23

Roej hard entry for fnatic, while naf is a lurker...

2023-09-20 09:59

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dexter can play entry as well in fnatic as karrigan does for faze..

2023-09-20 18:15

I made this thread with NAF in mind and forgot to add him, great shout, especially seeing them at EPL lol

2023-09-22 03:14

xd no matys mention

2023-09-19 10:34

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Matys underground

2023-09-19 10:35

+1, carries his team literally every match

2023-09-19 11:45

Allu

2023-09-19 10:57

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From tier 5 to tier 2 xD

2023-09-19 13:07

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He played dota more than cs this week

2023-09-20 00:07

Kscerato Frozen Naf Devve and blamef Xantares W0nderfull.

2023-09-19 10:59

susp and nilo

2023-09-19 10:59

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idk why nip are not picking up nilo... keep playing with rez and brollan

2023-09-19 11:24

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He got offered to join before König but turned it down as him and his family want him to finish high school before going all in on CS

2023-09-19 11:51

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i knew something like that, but he's keeping to play competitive cs

2023-09-19 11:53

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Yeah, his current team just plays cct-online events and maybe a few local Swedish lans, but prob won't be playing anything big. If he had of joined NIP he would have had to move cities and miss lots of days it's his last year, so hopefully he should be on a top team soon

2023-09-19 11:57

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ZywOo arc

2023-09-19 12:56

Eztag .

2023-09-19 11:05

w0nderful, Woro2k

2023-09-19 11:06

Kscerato, frozen, w0nderful, XANTARES(will never change), deko, nicoodoz, altekz, MATYS, kvem, HeavyGod, AZUWU, d1ledez, slaxz I probably missed some good t3 players but yeah I think I mentioned most

2023-09-19 11:18

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i'd add vexite and susp

2023-09-22 10:07

S1mple Krimbo

2023-09-19 11:46

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krimbo yes in case of s1mple with sudden new changes and all that stuff, the new navi is making good progress overall, especially after securing quarterfinals in pro league

2023-09-19 12:02

malbsmd donk hades wonderful frozen xantares insani BOROS

2023-09-19 11:47

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idk about donk. I feel that his current team fits him very well (for the time being). Him and his teammates have fairly good synchronicity among themselves

2023-09-20 10:20

ropz

2023-09-19 11:47

krimbo, malbs, frozen, elige, syrson, slaxz, boros, mhl

2023-09-19 11:59

me while soloQ XD

2023-09-19 12:13

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+1)

2023-09-19 12:26

Naf maybe Device too

2023-09-19 12:22

Matys

2023-09-19 12:37

aleksiB

2023-09-19 12:38

Frozen Niko Kscerato Xantares

2023-09-19 13:04

vexite and w0nderful

2023-09-19 13:10

I would love to see Matys in some tier 1/2 tea, like og, apeks, gl

2023-09-19 16:20

JBa and Vexite

2023-09-19 17:08

frozen mezii xantares wonderful donk

2023-09-20 00:19

mezii afro frozen jBa Vexite KSCERATO MATYS Kvem Krimbo

2023-09-20 00:28

zywoo

2023-09-20 00:31

Snax

2023-09-20 00:49

Frozen unfortunately did this to himself when he extended the contract he had with mouz. I just hope he comes to his senses when a top tier org gives him an opportunity in the near future.

2023-09-20 08:29

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pretty sure ropz made the same error but he'll definitely get out eventually if he really wants to

2023-09-22 03:15

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I hope he does that in like 3 years maximum.

2023-09-22 12:57

Devve Frozen Kscerato W0nderful Insani

2023-09-20 08:46

Xantares -> ENCE, top 1 for decades

2023-09-20 08:52

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So true

2023-09-20 09:24

w0nderful Jerry Ropz Frozen Mezzi Maybe someone make this team)

2023-09-20 10:01

mezi << afro

2023-09-20 10:11

w0nderful, Kscerato, donk (spirit doesn’t suck tho)

2023-09-20 10:12

Krimbo EliGE w0nderful frozen NAF insani

2023-09-20 10:19

KSCERATO is the best example w0nderful Krimbo Hades maybe, he was bad in ence but now he is very good in 9INE and deserve another try in t1 i think

2023-09-20 10:25

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I think Hades probably has problems communicating in English and for his own sake should be in a polish team

2023-09-20 10:57

Mouz are good they've just changed IGLs so they're in a bit of growing pains Mezzi agree I would say that Xantares is great and still has potential for being an impressive T1 rifler, same goes with Kscerato NAF is wasting his career in Liquid he is a consistent T1 player and is just always stuck in the mess liquid is. I don't know why he must have sold his soul to the owner even elige that owns some of the org left

2023-09-20 10:56

currently if we only remember one name : KSCERATO

2023-09-20 10:58

AleksiB

2023-09-20 11:42

Krimbo w0nderful Kscerato

2023-09-20 18:09

krimbo🥰🥰🥰

2023-09-20 18:22

donk

2023-09-22 04:34

KSCERATO

2023-09-22 09:26

donk, device, kscerato

2023-09-22 09:27

I will do better ! I will make a team of the player to good for their team. - w0nderful - AWP - frozen - rifler - KSCERATO - rifler - tabseN - IGL - YEKINDAR - entry

2023-09-22 09:29

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