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there's a rumor in the danish scene that they're testing either dupreeh or es3tag
idk how true it is, but it kinda makes sense
"there a rumor" without any links i arent trust
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Can trust je s quality man
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there a rumor NiKo winning major in CS2
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device will win, we all know cs majors are rigged for the home team to win
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Only happened four times.
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Cluji napoca, cologme, Atlanta? Antwerp, kato(2019), faceit london. I think
Edit forgot starladder berlin,
Atalanta liquid got knocked out before playoffs by astralis.
pm jonty he will send u the link
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(assuming these rumours are true) it might be to help with the playoff choking. you know for sure dupreeh has no problem playing in front of 10000+ people, TeSeS might.
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sure, but something about playoffs heroic doesn't work. Maybe a roster change is needed, maybe not, we can't tell from the outside.
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lol? cadian is most impactful player on that team, he is doing literally everything for them
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He's the IGL, ofc he's got a lot of impact. He's not an impact Awper. He occupies a very important fragging role, but is relatively mediocre at it, while his riflers are all good-to-great fraggers. My point being, his consolidation of the Awper and IGL roles makes him too difficult to replace, even tho he's not an impact on the big green.
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IGL , awper , giving motivation to team, interviews, they will never find someone good enough to replace him
heroic system never relied on the awp, imo of their problem now lack of 2nd star player
jabbi and teses one of them need to step up and big
and we all know that stavn disappear in big matches
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is there any good danish igl available? or even good awper except for device
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imagine heroic with a true awper tho
cadian pushed to rifle igl
+some new rising danish star awper
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If they are doing this its not about stats/numbers my friend. Having a veteran/legend playing your left and right might be relaxing. Also all the talks about Heroic is "choking story" if they add a big name like dupreeh he would get some attention and that might be relaxing for Heroic
If im Heroic i would def try dupreeh btw. They already have talent but for years they cant win shit. Time to change some things because its just sad at this point.
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Eh teams a lot more than just a player performing better when you look at the stat sheet. veteran mindset and wisdom can bring a lot to a team. they have cadian, people forget he has been around forever too, but it could be that the team needs a vet that is a proven closer to keep the rest of the players in the right when they get close to the finish line
It does make sense from that perspective that Heroic needs more experience in their roster to stop choking in important games. Dupreeh would be a player who performs in important games and keeps his cool, when things don't work out. Though, I don't think this will happen anyway.
dude, apart from cadian, their whole roster is made from up and coming talent. Replacing them with another rookie wont fix anything.
“theres a rumor” AKA “check out my fanfic”
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why did you change flag
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There is rumour that Guardian will replace broky in CS2 also
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really? i heard it would be Oskar
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They will fight for the last spot I heard, mma rules
Man i kinda wish that.
Es3tag, no pls. But I would find Dupreeh interesting, people forget that until a while ago he was at Vitality lifting trophies, his aim is not the best, but he would bring a lot of experience to the Heroic players and even privileged info about the Vitality and Zonic game that could be added for Heroic game.
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es3tag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dupre
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The only thing about Es3tag that is better than Dupreeh is his agent/career manager. EPL 12 Grand Final (1 lifegame) made him fill his bag at C9, and then NIP, while Dupreeh was impactful for his teams with his experience and game reading for 5 years +
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es3tag_1_EPL12_dupreeh_1_EPL12
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He was only changed as AWPer at NIP after phzy was kicked, before phzy was kicked he was playing as support and being mid (not even decent) in that role, and in C9 I don't even blame him because the whole team was horrible made, the only good one was Mezii, but at no point did Es3tag prove to be different from the 5. He is the famous player case of ''mid in everything, but good in nothing''
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Not shine, but he wasn't even doing his part, you're creating a world where everyone is to blame and not him in every team he's been on. Sjuush is a support player and shines, Perfecto is a support player and shines etc
Support player is not a role where you can be a mid and no one will kick you
+ dupreeh
but - who?
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teses maybe? hopefully not - jabbi
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I feel like teses is first on the chopping block
Cadian, Jabbi and stavn are now the core. Sjush is currently the best support player.
Dupreeh would make sense for Teses, while teses is mechanically better, dupreeh has more to offer. As in, like, teach them not to choke.
If Stavn didn't get a 50% handicap as soon as playoffs start, Heroic would have much better chance. But issue is not Stavn as a player, but his mental game. Daddy Dupreeh can solve that and be more than good 4-th players who fills roles.
Dupreeh is also good at mid round calling, I do not think Teses contributes to that at all.
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+1
While I agree with you, I do think they need to make even more changes, but not ones regarding their players. For me, another issue is the coach and analyst(s), it feels like they aren't even part of the team. Heroic is like the only top team out there, that almost doesn't have set plays and their tactical timeouts usually don't matter at all to the result of the game. As much as I respect Xizt, I do think they need someone who can calm the players down when things aren't good and who can give better output on what to do. If zonic wasn't in Vitality, he would have been the perfect choice. Also, maybe get a sports psychologist or if they already have - get a new one.
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I agree, you can see when Cadian's mental game goes down that entire Heroic looks like a lost team.
I lost count how many times Cadian did something silly for the camera after some kill and Heroic getting fucking destroyed next few rounds without even having a say in them.
I think Dupreeh is a strong voice in a team, he's super talented and can call rounds.
Heroic developed their own style and I think it's fine, they are hard to counter because of that. They need their mental game upped and that's why I think Dupreeh is a great fit because he has been there and through a lot.
Kinda how Hobbit worked well for Gambit, bunch of cool kids with a veteran of sorts who won the Major.
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he's not in his prime, but he started to wake up at the end of his Vitality journey
anyway experienced and great guy
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all of them are worse than what heroic has now
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Dupreeh for Teses does make quite a lot of sense. Maybe even Jabbi. They have problem with choking after all.
Estag does not make any sense.
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Jabbi? I don't think so man, this guy can be so fucking good.
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Potential is there. But he has been very average since tournament break. I don't know why.
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still better to bench TeSeS than Jabbi.
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That I easily agree.
Hopefully he will wake up
Anyway Teses will prob the first one to fall
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That is true, but I don't think the have the balls to drop a hltv top10 player just because he doesn't perform in playoff matches. Also rolewise -stavn +dupreeh doesn't make sense
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i actually like it. I do think it would be good option for Heroic to cash in on Stavn, but I don't think they will still do it.
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Stavn is the core issue behind them not winning tournaments. Basically a body spray star player who will beat 98% of pro players just by being sharp and consistent with his spraying, but the issue is that in the semis and finals he'll be playing against that 2% of players who always click his head before he can send enough bullets to kill them down range.
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You theory sounds nice, but don't think it holds water that well, unless we can just consider that whoever makes the playoffs will be included in that top 2% at that event. This year in playoffs Heroic have lost to:
G2
Navi
Vitality
Gamerlegion
Mouz
Vitality again
Astralis
Ence
And even Outsiders in Rio major last year.
Thats huge variety of teams and definitely more than 2% of the top teams. Its actually quite remarkable that Heroic has even managed to face that many different teams in playoffs. But I don't see anything other common between these teams than winning against Heroic.
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Think of it in terms of star rifler vs. star rifler, not team vs. team. Which of those teams didn't have a star rifler who clicks heads like it's nothing? Basically only ENCE and GL. Now the ENCE loss was recently against a struggling Heroic by an on-form ENCE, so doesn't really tell much in the longer run.
GamerLegion was on the back of iM, who basically hard counters Heroic's trade-based playstyle by always anticipating and even pre-committing to sprays against the opponent's most likely trade peek. So a good initial duel for iM basically nets him always 2-3 kills against Heroic, because they always go for the trade.
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Maybe you are right. I can't say really. Its been some time since I have watched a Heroic game to such level.
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Stop spreading lies
I hope they dont make changes because of 1 bad event, this roster should stick together longer, they are usually very consistent
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its not really a bad event thing. they are consistently choking when things get tough
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they won blast very recently, its not like they are unable to win nothing
Well es3tag is a good pick so why not.
sign altekz he is good and surprised he couldnt join the main roster of astralis for ever
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