Forum thread: JT | HLTV.org

jayson tatum gargabe? agree

2023-09-21 00:19

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hes Khris Middleton's son

2023-09-21 18:47

Basic na player

2023-09-21 00:19

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he's african though...

2023-09-21 01:39

col bots omg

2023-09-21 00:26

if walco had these players, complexity would have been a top 10 team

2023-09-21 00:28

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lol

2023-09-21 00:28

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am i wrong? his stars are bot hext and junior, and with these garbage players eg look solid against eu teams on lan

2023-09-21 00:30

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lol

2023-09-21 00:41

reported

2023-09-21 00:43

3/8

2023-09-21 00:47

junior is a top 5 AWPer itw though

2023-09-21 15:53

So yeah. You are really really really wrong

2023-09-21 18:57

Junior is about 50x better than halzerk

2023-09-22 16:12

flag flair everything checks out

2023-09-21 00:28

wow they won

2023-09-21 00:39

They won but JT is still a dogshit player. coL would be better without him

2023-09-21 00:41

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reported

2023-09-21 00:42

Col would be a mess without him.

2023-09-21 00:45

Jt is a skilled player as an igl. People just be hating

2023-09-21 00:46

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With this logic there is not a single IGL in the world that can be classified as bad

2023-09-21 00:48

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Hooxi had one good series in his entire life today vs Lynn vision. Otherwise I’d say he’s pretty bad. Far worse than JT.

2023-09-21 00:50

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JT has a 0.66 rating against top 5 teams. He might very well be the worst pro CS player of all time

2023-09-21 01:38

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hunden solek Scrunk

2023-09-21 01:40

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solek was not even remotely a pro player, hunden and scrunk were both garbage (and scrunk probably doesn't even qualify as a pro player either), and they still had better stats than JT. Also, if you're getting compared to hunden you definitely aren't a "skilled player" lmao

2023-09-21 02:01

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I never said he was a skilled player, just not the worst ever

2023-09-21 15:50

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If you had evidence to support that he wasn't the worst ever you'd have responded to the first half of my reply, not the last sentence that is meaningless if you aren't the original person that made the comment.

2023-09-21 18:24

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Well without any filters, Hunden's rating Vs. top 5 all time is .65, while Jt's is .74

2023-09-21 18:43

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1.0 rating vs 2.0 rating lmao

2023-09-21 19:16

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No they're both rating 2.0 hltv.org/stats/players/7415/hunden hltv.org/stats/players/11630/jt Hunden has way less maps played Vs. top 5 sure but still he has a far lower rating

2023-09-21 19:39

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that stat only includes games played post-2.0 rating addition, which was at the end of his career as you can tell by the fact that he only has 5 matches played.

2023-09-21 21:57

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still counts no? Why would we compare 1.00 to 2.00? Looking at Hunden during rating 1.0 he has like 2 maps against top 5 teams and a .57 rating. That's because before that there was no ranking so you cant calculate it so I have to question why you used "vs. top 5 teams" as the criteria in 2014 he has a .65 rating 1.00 at big events he has .88 and .92 in 2013 and 2012 respectively, but I'm not sure exactly was the correlation is of 1.00 to 2.00 and just because he played big events doesnt mean he played top 5 teams Unless you go and give me a link having picked out the top 5 teams during 2014, 2013, and 2012 and showed me Hunden's rating 1.00 for that, then giving me a conversion from 1.00 to 2.00 and proving that his rating at that time was .74 you are just saying an opinion with nothing backing it up. I give you stats and prove why Jt is better individually using facts, and you say "oh no dont count that cause it's at the end of his career". That shouldn't mean anything, he was still playing the best teams in the world and that's the rating he had.

2023-09-21 22:26

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"JT has better stats than Hunden... if you only count 5 games at a point in his career where he was at his worst" It's a meaningless statistic at that point. No different than saying s1mple is better than zywoo based off games played within the last 2 weeks.

2023-09-22 03:39

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I guess I dont understand what you're basing your opinion on then. In what way is Hunden better than Jt? the eye test? even then I'd disagree. If you look at all-time rating 2.0 vs. top 50 Hunden has 660 maps and Jt has 640, so let's compare their stats there, as Hunden actually has more maps played then Jt in that category. Hunden has a .83 rating Jt has a .94 rating so Jt is statistically better. If this is not enough for you I dont know what to say. It's not "just 5 games at the end of his carrier" at that point, it's actually more matches than Jt. And you're also assuming that this isnt the end of Jt's career.

2023-09-22 16:11

do you even watch complexity games? JT is fucking abysmal

2023-09-21 02:30

I believe he is actually the reason why this team is so fucking bad

2023-09-21 00:51

People Fr don’t respect him as an igl. Sure he misses shots but his calling is good and he’s like NAs only igl

2023-09-21 01:39

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He really doesnt wiff that much at all when I watch him. Like his aim might not be like elige or floppy but he does get important kills more than people think. Also his calling is pretty Damn good considering it’s not a roster of superstars. They still crushed c9

2023-09-21 19:03

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Yeah honestly he has some really good moments like that clutch against imperial on overpass and honestly he played really good on ancient. He does a good job I like him lots

2023-09-21 20:01

JT's ceiling is like semis, if coL want to win events they need to get rid of him eventually

2023-09-21 02:14

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-Yekindar +JT you mean ??

2023-09-21 02:17

dude's the only competent caller in NA

2023-09-21 02:17

I think he's doing alright job anyway. There's no better IGL in NA right now

2023-09-21 02:33

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And every awper on his team (except junior) become really really good.

2023-09-21 18:59

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I dont think that Junior is good enough for better tournaments.Just a better Wiz

2023-09-21 19:10

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True and honestly, not many igl have the patience to play with NA boys. All the COL players have solid mecanical skills, but they still do a lot of mistakes. It takes the patience of a saint to igl an NA team. Also, COL, whatever the lineup, do well on terrorist side. You have to give some credits to JT.

2023-09-22 04:18

jT good but zywoo > simple

2023-09-21 03:20

JT, let me have this house.

2023-09-21 06:10

guy can't go double negative and expect to win against tier 1 teams

2023-09-21 15:51

Respect my boy Jonathan T.

2023-09-21 15:53

He has always been insane trash. It’s like NA HUNDEN or advent The only time he won 1v5 or 1v4 in OT was when I betted vs coL and the enemy team was about to close the game Every time I bet on coL jT gets max 10 frags a map and can’t kill from behind

2023-09-21 15:55

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