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#freejoel
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Finland z0re1 
talent deserves a second chance
2023-09-21 06:45
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Gamba addict cheating match fixer
2023-09-21 06:46
17 replies
+1
2023-09-21 07:13
1 reply
no way at least 5 year ban pls remember forsaken
2023-09-21 10:51
He was underage when betting. The real problem are the websites that enable underage gambling addiction
2023-09-21 07:44
14 replies
#18
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Czech Republic lamborador
he was underage when scammed 100k$ from kids as well
2023-09-21 07:45
1 reply
Still to this day ive never seen any proof of that.
2023-09-21 07:46
#21
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Dominica FallczE
Firstly he shouldn't have been there in the first place Secondly yes partially betting sites fault However he was matchfixing, one way or the other he's guilty, the fact he shouldn't be even betting isn't a factor because he did, and he matchfixed to win.
2023-09-21 08:04
11 replies
i wonder if youve ever been addicted to something. im sure it started as a harmless "hobby" for him, he may have bet when he was really young and might have even won something. but once it turns to addiction you start doing bad things, and its 100% the site's fault for enabling such things. the whole problem would have been prevented if there was regulations and restrictions on those sites. doesn't help that most big streamers have advertised every scam site in existence since skins were introduced into the game.
2023-09-21 08:07
10 replies
#24
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Dominica FallczE
Yea if you think being a pro / semi-pro player that decides to matchfix when he bets on his matches is 100% site's fault then you are a dumbass. If site that he was betting at banned him, he would've found different one, if that one would ban him, once again he would find a different one. This isn't about site, but about the player being a scum. That guy scammed for over 100k and you are still defending him. I agree gambling is a problem, and there are underaged players playing in colors of casinos, but gambling isn't that hard to quit compared to other addictions (I should know), and if you really are so badly involved in it, you can put up restrictions on the site or your bank. No excuses.
2023-09-21 08:11
8 replies
bro, matchfixin is bad, but you need to understand that it happens because there is an addiction behind it. youre fully blaming joel for everything and dont even want to recognize how bad the real problem is. and youre talking about how gambling isnt hard to quit? thats literally the worst type of addiction. not only you lose all your money you start doing shady shit just so you can gamble more.
2023-09-21 08:16
7 replies
#28
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Dominica FallczE
Matchfixing doesn't need to happen because of addiction, in this case yes, but in most of the other cases, it happens just to grab a bag. I literally adressed the problem, that even young people are promoting it, eventho they can't even gamble yet which is wrong. Overall in this business just promoting is wrong, but hey it's a bag, that's all it is about and we won't stop it. And as I guy who was addicted to gambling. Yes quitting is very easy. Now I even just bet for fun, like yearly deposit of 15$.. Because it makes the matches more interesting and I know I'll lose the money.
2023-09-21 08:35
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#31
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Germany Kevnn
"Yes quitting is very easy. Now I even just bet for fun, like yearly deposit of 15$.." xD
2023-09-21 10:12
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#32
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Dominica FallczE
Yea from 100$ a week to a 15$ a year just to make NFL & tournaments like EPL more interesting I would call quitting. Eventho I had hard profit I knew I had a problem, I lost 20, so* I bet 40 to get it back etc. Now I just make a 10@ ticket for 0.5 just so watching the match I have some1 to cheer for etc..
2023-09-21 10:38
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#35
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Germany Kevnn
So you might as well stop completely before you call it easy to quit. If you aren't scared of chasing losses and gambled the same amount every week you probably never had a gambling problem to begin with
2023-09-21 10:49
you are right bro but even being kid and being addicted doesnt mean you shouldnt get punished for your actions in the perfect world ofc you wouldnt, you would get real help. But we doesnt live in a perfect world
2023-09-21 10:52
2 replies
well punishment yeah but people are literally just attacking him and telling him to off himself for this instead of actually trying to get help for him and his issues.
2023-09-21 10:57
1 reply
People telling him to off himself? Where? And also, there are consequenses for your actions. Joel is an 18-year old, which is LEGALLY an adult. Crying about "no, you need to understand" tells more about your character than you'd think, it's just an excuse and a childish thing to say. The only thing that makes him learn is learning the hard way.
2023-09-21 11:07
He should take resposability anyway, addiction is an excuse, for how hard it can be to overcome it. In life nothing is fair, it is what it is most of the time.
2023-09-21 11:21
#2
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China Mahiro
he dindunun
2023-09-21 06:46
#3
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Sweden Aebexz
This was his second chance…
2023-09-21 06:47
Already had it lol
2023-09-21 06:47
he will play Blast Showdown
2023-09-21 06:48
#6
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Russia Stallex
he took too many second chances
2023-09-21 06:53
#7
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North America hi_mens))
Third chance you mean?
2023-09-21 06:59
nt joel alt
2023-09-21 07:04
322 and another chance? Really????
2023-09-21 07:11
F joel
2023-09-21 07:12
free joelz
2023-09-21 07:12
he has only himself to blame
2023-09-21 07:13
#14
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Germany who|cars
no thanks
2023-09-21 07:24
#FREEJOEL
2023-09-21 07:33
#Free322
2023-09-21 07:36
Sure but should be banned for a couple of years first
2023-09-21 07:53
#22
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Europe 2old4hltv
He deserve 5 year break from CS. I honestly can't wait till people will really speak about him, then HLTV community will change mind about him instantly and everyone will say he deserve to be banned.
2023-09-21 08:05
CCT major champion
2023-09-21 08:23
#27
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Wales Hi_Im_New
He already did get another chance after scamming a bunch of people
2023-09-21 08:35
#29
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Italy Skye620
Bet on himself to lose. That says enough
2023-09-21 08:35
nobody deserves a second chance, grow up kid
2023-09-21 08:41
No thank you
2023-09-21 10:46
matchfixers are the worst.. it's an illness, they should go to rehab. (after givin back all the money they stole)
2023-09-21 10:46
#jailhim - EU/CIS authorities do nothing about all your matchfixing.
2023-09-21 10:53
#39
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United States ViperXZ
He can come back after 2 years everything else would be a joke, 2 years is a very low punishment for that as well.
2023-09-21 10:54
It doesn't. Picking him up would be extremely shit PR for the team and organization. I cant believe that there are people who justify this, this is his 2nd time getting into problems. First the scamming thing and now matchfixing and you people STILL are willing to pass on this? Nah.
2023-09-21 11:08
1 reply
same community that would like to ban ppl for one suspicious clip lmao
2023-09-21 11:18
#jailjoel
2023-09-21 11:09
This was his second chance. No more chances
2023-09-21 11:12
lil pup already had a chance to redeem himself, this is even worse than his previous fiasco.
2023-09-21 11:15
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