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Have you counted how much money you have won and lost on betting overall ?
Without lies anyone who is actually in a big profit? and bets constantly and not just a few times
lost a few hundred from transaction bullshit
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Obviously they make money but they don’t care if u win or lose lol
They make money by reducing odds (when 50-50 odds should be 2.0 - 2.0 both its around 1.87 - 1.87)
People like you don’t seem to realize it
Also some bookies take a fee when withdrawing
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Xd ?
Your point was kinda that bookies have control of which team wins or fix matches or smth
At least that’s I got from it
In fact they don’t care who wins at all, they make money either way
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Well it’s like saying water is wet
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“house always wins” is an old saying about casinos because in a casino you play versus the casino and its always rigged against you
betting is an entirely different thing, not that you should bet but it’s just not the same
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Yep exactly
They indeed care if you win money, they will limit or just outright KYC ban you. Exchanges will not limit you as they take % of the lay or back but often those percentages are too hefty and will de-value most models. If your book is taking a withdrawal fee then i would suggest using a better book unless you're arb'n across multiple books but if you're arb'n correctly they will limit you eventually and mathematically you cannot arb on exchanges.
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+1. Bookies dont want winners and if u are a winner they gonna invite u to leave
many people get limited, in my case i got my account closed 14 days after receiving their message (they obviously had to send any remaining cash i had to my bank)
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how is it trap xd
they DO care if you win or lose. A friend of mine found a way to exploit a bet that in the long term made him money always. When he was in the 10k+ profit range they would start lowering his maximum bet until he got clapped with 0.20 bets or something like that, meaning they actually ban you from their site. When he tried to make other accounts or using the same wifi, instantly banned. So he started taking phones from others, with everything at their name, using national internet, not the home wifi and splitting the benefits 70-30. It happened the same every single time, sometimes it would be capped at 15k, others at 18k. He used one of the big boys betting websites, so yeah. They definitely care if you make profit often and how much you make off them. They also ended up removing the mentioned bet from the site.
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Found an exploit to get free money yeah sure not a fairlytale
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Well he is a mathemathician and he calculated stuff with every single bet until he found the only one that IN THE LONG RUN made him money. He wasn't winning all the time, I just explained It to you. You can choose to not believe me, but in the end, I don't really care nor I have nothing to gain from It, but yeah, there are extremely smart people out there buddy, We are not in that group. The said exploit worked for like 3 months only, they removed the bet.
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So for 3 months he was betting on the same match is that what you’re telling me? xddd
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Not in the same match, dude, the bet was related to football, he wouldn't tell me which one for obvious reasons, but let's say it was no yellow ward in the next 5 minutes. He would bet that all the time in all matches he could, day and night. Sometimes he won, sometims he lost but in the long run he always made money. Do you understand now?
u probably understand, u dont need money to make money from gambling?
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yet they are making money from gambling
And McDonald's wouldn't exist if they didn't make money from customers?
I'm sorry but I don't quite understand your point
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They provide a product yes, but an unhealthy one that is dangerous in the long run, but still your point doesn't make sense, there are loads of different companies that provide a harmful product that are there just to make money off of people and billions of people use them
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But like what is your point, like what genuinely is it? That companies are made to make money? Who could've guessed
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That the idea that gambling for the gambler can be profitable is unrealistic. If the gambling site makes an extraordinary amount of money, that means its gamblers are losing an extraordinary amount. This isn’t a restaurant where I pay $15 and get a meal. It’s a money sink where I pay $100+ and see if I get fucked over or if I got lucky. And even more so, that gambling itself as an industry is designed against the favor of gamblers.
lol definately i lose more then win
but since its on the moderate and small amount , its so depressing thou
sometimes on a random week got extra to buy collectibles haha
Majority of bettors, and i mean 99% of bettors never won more than they spend. i got like 12k ish dollars in the bin, which means around 120.000 kroners where im from
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That’s like 1,5 months salary in Norway
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Currently, the gross average wages in Norway are somewhere around 54,000 NOK per month (€5,000 or $5,385)
And average doesn’t mean the highest, people could get more than this easily
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Still not that much
For example average people in Russia would have to work for more than 2 years to get that amount of money
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It’s not even that much higher lmao
Prices in Russia for example are increasing every year immensely but the salaries stay the same
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Maybe u should go to Russian and check? Cuz it isn’t
Only prices of rent might be high but again if we’re talking about Moscow then the rent there will be even more expensive lmao
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Not to piss on your fire, but earning 120k in 2 months is very high salary in norway, most people before tax earn 25-35k a month
Average before tax obviously
like thousands lool
i have 76 lvl on csgoroll, gold I on stake and like 5.5k wagered on rollbit
not even counting csgo500 csgoempire and local bookies
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Why u use fishy sites like this instead of actual bookies? U bet with skins? Or cuz underage ?
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idk got used to them
now i only use stake sometimes due to rakeback, monthly weekly etc and good site ui
i make one bet
lose it and my bet carrer is over
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nice
Hope u didn’t sell a house for that one bet
I quit gambling 1 week ago. I have downloaded that gamban thing and never ever gamble again. I am 21 and I have been working since 18. I have nothing to my name and currently, my account is -£6000 but overall If I never gambled I will have approx £50-70k in my bank account cause I work a decent job. Luckily I still have my job so I am just going to work and save up from now since I am still young and made a massive mistake gambling my paycheck everytime. But we learn shit from life and move on.
- my advice for you guys is simple never gamble. I started very small and was telling my self its only abit of ''fun'' but slowly that fun becomes addiction trying to gain back losses and it goes down hill.
edit2 : worst part is sleeping at night thinking that you worked your ass off for 4 years and have nothing to show for it.
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1 week ago lol
U will probably still come back to it
Need like a year to say u quit
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I mean big is true, gl
There are always new sites where u could bet if u really want to tho
big W bro
congrats man, you're on the right track
Lost €6000 in 2 hours back in April. I put myself in Rofus for 3 months. Rofus is a Site where you can ban yourself from loggin into any Danish authorized gambling website. I got out of it 28th of August, since then, I've deposited almost nothing, 150 dkk (20€), and won like 450 dkk (60€), since then, but keeping it low - Always ready to book myself into Rofus again if things ever get out of hand again
12k profit all time
found an exploit on a site and abused the shit out of it xdd got caught in the end
without the exploit probably around 2-3k profit. but definitely not worth it considering how much time i've spent on doing research on soooo many matches (football and esports)
fun hobby in the end but just dont get addicted bois, it can ruin your life if you have an addictive personality
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What exploit exactly? Seems hard to believe
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basically on all betting sites once you press "bet" the bet goes through and u can do nothing about it
on this one site i found out that once you close your chrome tab the bet automatically closes/doesn't go through so i abused the shit out of it while live betting (on football)
in the end i got caught and they confiscated 1k of my active balance but i made thousands in the end so i didn't rly care. fun while it lasted :D
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lost like 2k overall tbh
probably down £10k overall because I lost so much when I first started betting at 18, as you do.
I'm a few £k up this year, end up winning, get confident, lose the extra money I didnt withdraw and repeat. I have deposit limits now and its a game changer to the way you approach betting. I'll make it all back over time, not worried.
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+1 lmao
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i quit in august after 7 years, never had so much no-betting time (i wont comeback for sure)
less stress, understanding amount of money that i have and some good real-life situations. nothing really changed, but life became better.
ofc now i dont have chance to have 5k$ inventory by winning so muchh in a week, but thats ok
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tbh, I work a lot and have never had much time to watch, but I watch the best matches. I started meeting girls for the first time in 5 years and they think I’m cool, which I didn’t expect. I thought I was too bad at this.
I live in a boring new city with no friends, so I occupy my time as much as possible. sometimes I play, sometimes I watch something. everything is as usual.
once I wanted to give up, because I knew about the standin in advance and with 95% I would have won, but I decided to continue not to bet and am proud of my decision (I would have won).
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are you allowed to bet if you play for jano?
probably 200k eur over a decade, if not way more. somehow never been in big debt (most ive ever been in debt is 500), but life is not good. hit a brick wall yesterday after winning a 70x bet last week. won 2500, thought I finally could build a solid bank - ended up losing it all in a span of a week like I always do, gradually doing bigger and riskier match bets. kind of relieved that i lost it all cus now I cant enter sites and gamble, cus i simply do not have the funds. but i'll burn all my funds once a new month comes
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thanks, will have a look
Lost €6000 in 2 hours back in April. I put myself in Rofus for 3 months. Rofus is a Site where you can ban yourself from loggin into any Danish authorized gambling website. I got out of it 28th of August, since then, I've deposited almost nothing, 150 dkk (20€), and won like 450 dkk (60€), since then, but keeping it low - Always ready to book myself into Rofus again if things ever get out of hand again.
Over all, I'm in around 9K€ profit still tho, but don't want to lose it all
-60k$
Was in debt also
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ruski with 60k$ ?
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60k rubles
and what else?
it has been for 7 years, each year for 8-9k
I'm totally in profit of like 5k for sure
I mainly bet football or nba for fun and like 2 euros for a set of games. A few times won 100-300e and it was awesome. I guess im about even at that. Lost a few hundreds in the casino tho.
started 4.9.2023. and im around +400e atm
yestrday az alkmaar destroyed 2x 250e tickets where all other teams passed
lost like 2k i guess and made 3k with the cases ive kept so i guess its not so painful after all
since the new bet-at-home website you can see the total deposit and winnings. im currently in profit with €50. which is ridiculous considering how much time and money i spent on it.
-10€ dont gamble kids
I've probably lost like 30-50k over 15-20years
I once deposited $20 and won $10 on paris rmr
then I became a little bit addicted and lost $200
Lost like $250, haven't bet since then to 'chase' my losses and blocked an acc on the betting site where I was verified
i can safely say im like +1k profit at least.
When i start losing everyday, i just stop until next big event and continue then. (time to time i do like €5 500 odds accas - have won 2 of these)
but overall im small bettor, i hunt for odds (etc €10 to €300 accas) , never doing big bets , even if im tilted af
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for fun just checked history from bet365 (only site i use)
date 20.03.23-19.09.23
stakes: 6051.50 returns: 8876.62 win/loss: +2825.12
date 20.09.22-19.03.22
stakes: 950.82 returns: 528.59 win/loss: -422.23
Have won lifetime somewhere around 400k, this is over multiple years. At the end of the day its just about math and most of my bets are just follows proper bettors when there is value. ( i follow sports daily hours and basicly have super knowledge on games i decide to bet on). Never bet on anything i dont know about if not trusted tipper
Super boring but brings alot money yearly so worth it. Finnish folks could just follow cs guys on positiossa discord to make money but most of this forums userbase is addicted to the feeling not the money so they prob not able to
Something like $ 75.000.000,00 (75 million) since 2014 until now, mixed between wins and losts (More lost of course haha) Always on CS:GO, Football and NBA matches!
I only bet cs:go skins on csgolounge. After they finished, I started betting real amounts on bet365 and 1xbet, and I'm like that to this day.
I have always been one to bet very high values, most of the time ALL IN bets.
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Something like $ 75.0000000.00000000,00 (7500000000 million) since 2014 until now, mixed between wins and losts.
I have always been one to bet very high values, most of the time ALL IN bets.
I'm like 1.5k - 2k euro back. This dates back all the way to 2015 when I started csgo gambling as a 10 year old, yes you heard that number right. I used to gamble with my moms credit card with somewhat small amounts (about 50 euro each time). But this number got really high and ended up being like 2k euro of my moms money. I then stopped and returned to CS in 2015 and I have since then made back some of the money but also lost when I was 2k in profit. I have since then stopped but who knows I might end up in the whole thing again
money betting in sports i think its around 50.000€ loss in the last 10 yrs...skin gambling i think around 30k up because of a hit with a souvenier dlore
This thread is really interesting and good stuff that HLTV produces. It's super interesting to read people's accounts on controversial subjects.
only do sports betting, mostly football, probaly lost a couple hundreds since i started betting (2020)
if you work and you spend like 5% of your earnings in bets, you re ok, you cant be degenarate tho, you need to control yourself and when money is in talks its fucked to control hahah
Guys, help please
Sometimes I come across statistics from betting companies about the players who committed the most murders with a knife in a year.
The question is how can these statistics be viewed on this or maybe another site?
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