Forum thread: Cloud9 truth

Nope, kick Hobbit and get real igl. If there is too many voices just tell sh1ro to shut the fuck up and focus on getting more than 6 kills on T sides during bo3.

2023-09-22 08:37

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hobbit had to be kicked first, but elec told he will come only on nafany's place, because he wanted to be IGL

2023-09-22 18:00

they are ranked 7 so they cannot be top 10 max. make your research before posting bs regards,

2023-09-22 08:38

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inflated as hell

2023-09-22 08:58

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inflated with no blast or esl partnership

2023-09-22 09:32

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Aint no hate, but where are the results if they are top7 team in the world?

2023-09-22 11:12

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they have enough results to be in top7, not enough to be any higher though

2023-09-22 20:04

They’re mos def not playing like #7 in the world… he has a point, performance wise and judging by the eye test top 10 is even benevolent.

2023-09-22 11:38

7th is literally top10

2023-09-22 20:06

Just get fucking Jerry and let’s see what he can do with real talent. I respect electronic trying to be an igl but it’s not working. The stats on their wins are so all over the place, it’s not clear to me who’s supposed to be the star players.

2023-09-22 08:41

They need to get a player that is NOT a nerd

2023-09-22 08:43

All they need is donk, he is humble, has decent aim and game knowledge, perfect teammate for any team.

2023-09-22 08:51

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They would still have IGL that sucks

2023-09-22 08:54

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igl who carried a team to grand finals of a major, and cologne sucks? most sane hltv take.

2023-09-22 08:56

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Only cologne finals and after that his team was getting worse with each event

2023-09-22 08:57

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with sdy he carried a stable roster to 2 grand finals. unfortunately for them faze was a different beast during that time because of which they thought they needed roster changes to take on faze. navi started performing worse only after they made a roster change which shifted their system's balance. they were not able to accomodate a young and inexperienced npl into their system.

2023-09-22 09:03

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+ And next he was forced to play with npl, who is tier3 player at the best

2023-09-22 11:16

2 grand finals where one was honeymoon in a blast tournament? Go watch navi games, maybe they made playoffs everytime but they barely made it. Eye test wise they werr just bad, they just won on firepower. If he was a good igl then even with npl the roster would get better but navi was just getting worse.

2023-09-22 14:49

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my mistake, i thought sdy was in the antwerp roster. even then they had a lot of deep tournament playoff runs consistently after the honeymoon period. even one of the best coaches of cs has time and time again said that electronic has the potential to become the goat igl. so i would trust blade more than you until i have become mentally handicapped.

2023-09-22 15:01

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I see you were using results to prove me wrong but results and eye test both are saying elec is bad igl but now you're using blade's statement to prove me wrong.

2023-09-22 20:11

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I am not moving goal posts. The results electronic accumulated in his time in Na`Vi is very respectable. The potential is definitely there. And having backing from one of the best coaches in the world FURTHER shows that he is a potentially great IGL.

2023-09-22 20:37

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It's not respectable at all when you're navi and see how they got to those results. Navi was never a title cntender after cologne. He maybe potentially good but everything rn suggests he is not that good.

2023-09-22 20:40

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lets agree to disagree

2023-09-22 20:40

Yes, he was able to lead a stable team that was already good and had working systems. Now that he has to do those things himself everything goes to shit. Also on that Cologne run he was dropping those 1.2 ratings, now 1.0 is good game. This is not the same Electronic that was helping navi win titles.

2023-09-22 09:17

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without a doubt electronic does seem like a shadow of his former self. i think it is because blade used to help him with a lot of things which relieved some pressure off his shoulders. this is the defining moment in his IGLing career. can he rise above the pressure of building a title contender team all by himself after stepping out of blade's shadow for the first time? it is no mean feat. that's why i think he deserves some time with this roster to find his identity as an igl and an architect. if he's able to do that he will surely go back to posting high ratings and numbers.

2023-09-22 09:39

Besides Cologne, he had a plenty deep runs in playoffs until he left Navi. I can say much about Hobbit, but even Hobbit >> npl in any case, so it is a very good result. On the other hand, if you have S1mple in the roster, many things are more easier, but still you can't win tournaments if you play 4x5 nowadays.

2023-09-22 11:26

if fucking apex was able to be somewhat good igl and win major, then elec can do it as well, zywoo unlike shiro doesn't try to play against what his leader say. +groove is a joke not a coach, guy has 0 voice and authority

2023-09-22 09:05

Donk's buyout would likely be at least 1 million

2023-09-22 11:03

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yes I know, but c9 is a burger org so they have enough money, main problem is that spirit won't let him go, they still can sign him on loan or something like that

2023-09-22 11:52

1 mil rubbles

2023-09-23 06:37

kick ratbit sign boomich and its navi21 2.0 almost identical

2023-09-22 08:55

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17 years old s1mple > prime sh1ro

2023-09-22 09:41

First of all hobbit is not good as a person, remember how he brought his bad playing friend into the team. electronic is not good person too, in navi they were made into man of straw and asked to remove their flag from liquidpedia. He agreed, but then left from navi thus you can draw a conclusion he is a stupid and self-confident. Sh1ro obviously thinks he's very smart. It doesn't look like these players could be stacked in one solid team

2023-09-22 09:05

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One thing that goes for Sh1ro is that he can back his words with his play. Nafany also was saying that he is smart

2023-09-22 13:20

Not a shame to lose against Complexity.

2023-09-22 09:12

Two of their best players made their careers during the online era, those 2 players are notorious chokers on LAN.

2023-09-22 09:14

electronic simply needs to stop thinking he can IGL and get back to his old form. Or he is washed and just trying to pretend by taking the IGL Role where you can afford people fragging less if they are good as an IGL.

2023-09-22 09:18

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I think that is exactly what he is doing (2nd part of your comment)

2023-09-22 09:41

It's gonna take them another 3 months to kick hobbit and get a decent player

2023-09-22 09:40

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hobbit isn't playing anymore cause electronic igl call as fuckin silver

2023-09-22 11:28

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multiple members of the team said that Elec was calling a lot during NaVi prime with boombl4 and he would sometimes even call the whole map, stop acting you know something

2023-09-22 17:56

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Sometimes … is not all time. I got more legacy u will never have on this game. I’m not founding my word on itw … I just watching the gameplan and they are basic and boring as fuck. So it’s predictable

2023-09-23 12:39