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C9 never lucky
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan 
Cloud9 has to be the one of the unluckiest (aka most mismanaged) orgs ever Be a decent NA team for years Change core to EU (STYKO, Golden, flusha, kio, ...) Lose the major spot because the EU core breaks Get a new NA roster with TenZ, sell the core to Gen.G because it underperforms, release the other players Buy ATK which is as good as any other NA mix with fl0m in it Start the colossus project, spend a shit ton of money, woxic leaves, the whole roster breaks even further Leave CS Come back with Gambit which have been top1-2 in the online era Players don't find nearly as much success as they have in Gambit Somehow fail to qualify to the major Buy electronic and perfecto to make a superteam on paper for more shit ton of money, still suck
2023-09-23 23:57
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2023-09-23 23:58
yeah unlucky only face col tier 10 Liquid tier 50 and EF tier 500
2023-09-23 23:58
just unlucko not really mismanagement, at least in recent times
2023-09-23 23:59
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#6
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
the purchase of gambit was actually good but -interz started the shit train
2023-09-23 23:59
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I feel like problems started when they stopped believing in nafany for some reason, maybe ego maybe something else, they had 3 ingame voices before and still have the same problem with elec and perfecto And Ax1le plays now like he wants just to be kicked lmao
2023-09-24 00:04
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#12
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
Also true, I never understood the hate for nafany, a better igl than electronic for sure
2023-09-24 00:05
Xaxaxaxaxaxa
2023-09-23 23:59
C9 is just worse than EG rn
2023-09-23 23:59
#7
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Faroe Islands mayerbek
Okay but this game Xantares literaly destroyed C9 ..
2023-09-24 00:00
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#9
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
I'm not talking about this game, it's been like that ever since 2018
2023-09-24 00:02
makes a team with: low impact awper ghosting star rifler out of prime igl and support straight up washed hobbit igl stuck in 2021 ''I WONDER WHAT COULD GO WRONG''
2023-09-24 00:01
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B8 me by calling shiro a low impact awper.
2023-09-24 00:02
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*baiter awper fixed for you
2023-09-26 10:32
I miss n0thing era. (cuz Im getting old) He was one of the best player in NA fs.
2023-09-24 00:07
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#14
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
the guy has sold himself to valorant, no respect really
2023-09-24 00:15
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Dang! really? I wasn't following. Idk man, he's 32 and he gotta earn some some ig. I prbbly would do the same thing ig even tho I hate valo. Money is money bro. I just wanted to mention good old days. Gn bro.
2023-09-24 00:18
"never lucky" literally won a major vs an unstoppable faze
2023-09-24 00:23
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#18
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
never lucky ever since*
2023-09-24 00:26
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As someone from NA, I'll take the major with that lineup with the caveats that's c9 is never great again
2023-09-25 06:48
#17
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Argentina Joaqqo1
This is what happens when you don't have a good Manager. I still remember when blad3 said that they were going to have issues with H0bbit and electronic roles overlapping, at the time if you had a good GM he would've realized this and kept nafany (not as an IGL) instead of hobbit.
2023-09-24 00:24
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#20
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
True
2023-09-24 12:04
+1
2023-09-24 12:05
This is like their 5-th official match together, if we look at how statistically things have worked out for similar star stacked teams such as G2 or Vitality or such - they took their time to build the system.
2023-09-24 00:29
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G2 10-0 epl with hooxi and kato finals with aleksi. Vita playing with misutaa and english communuication
2023-09-24 12:07
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selective memory at its finest
2023-09-24 23:08
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? G2 had one bad event which was blast spring groups but sure whatever you say
2023-09-25 03:02
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6 months before they clicked they were terrible, showing good signs but being easy to counter. Only reason they did better was because they had inhuman level from Niko and a highlight reel of monesy clutching things he shouldn't at a rate no one does. Vitality struggled for a year to make a system that works, even arrival of Spinx was bumpy. They didn't start doing good from the get go.
2023-09-25 08:36
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Yes exactly they showed good signs unlike c9. C9 yet to win against tier 1. Vitality won epl with spinx and then strugglrd but okay
2023-09-25 15:35
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spinx slid into the team that already had spent a year making a system. G2 has superstars that cannot be stopped which is unreasonable to expect, ax1le and sh1ro never worked outside of that one system, electronic is shifting his role quite a bit. While I am hyped for that team, one has to be dumb to have high expectations from the get go. It will take them at least 6 months if not a year to get that plane up and running.
2023-09-26 10:05
Good point, rare non rencency bias hltv user +1
2023-09-25 10:29
They should have bought Chaos
2023-09-25 03:08
C9 was very lucky because c9 didnt play against top 10 teams
2023-09-25 03:11
skill issue
2023-09-25 08:38
#30
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Bangladesh ImpacT_
not unlucky just shit they used a century of their luck in Boston tbh
2023-09-25 08:46
Somehow doesn't qualify to major??? First they choked against ENCE when they were winning Vertigo like 12-9 or something. Then they just crumble against FaZe.
2023-09-26 10:24
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