they are on suicide watch rn
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C9 needs to go back to NA. Russians cannot play CS effectively
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c9 win over faze again, now as the biggest failure of a super team :D
idk what do people expect from a roster with so much ego
and im not talking about somebody being toxic or anything like that
it's just that every player on that team got a voice that has to be heard and i guess they just cant quite decide whos voice is the most effective
Well if they lost but showed good cs i wouldnt be disappointed. Vitality with 2 danes was bad (not like this) for 1 year. But no, they played like faceit players, walking through smokes, dry peeking, solo peeks. Is this a pro team or what? Elec is expecting to kill 2 by rushing alone?
Go back to the basics, teamplay, trades, setups ecc.
Also in overpass i saw why gambit was choking, its because of axile and sh1ro, they just arent big match players, they choke under pressure. Sh1ro disappeared, axile couldnt hs.
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Vitality still made a grand final 4 months in with the new roster, I wonder how long will it take for C9. I don't see it happening soon, not only are they bad, but the scene is stronger today than in 2022.
Electronic needs to get off igl, provide some entry fragging
Cloud9 need to find an actual igl, hobbit will have to go unfortunately
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True, "unfortunately" was the wrong word to use here haha
I think there’s so many issues this team has I don’t even know where to start. They just look awkward in game, there are some flashes, but it doesn’t come together. Potential is huge, they maybe need more time, but imo they look worse than they did at their first event. They have super weak mentality, when they start losing it seems totally hopeless. Their body language is depressed, most players are underperforming, hobbit and ax1le the most. They seem to have 0 confidence and don’t play like a team at all. Something drastic needs to happen, it’s just sad to see a talented team like them performing so bad and losing to t2 teams they should be 2-0 every time.
Overall it's painful because i know the potential is there. And i mean it's been only potential since post-online era. Every time they seemed in form they suddenly sucked ass. And it's just too much...
At this point now, i am just glad c9 (even with changed roster) stay true to themselves and suck more. It's joyful, uplifting almost...
Worse than EG
I think they should go back to na
sucks that hobbit might have to go, hes always been my favorite person from the gambit trio
Not to pull Mauisnake into this thread also but Maui did say Electronic and ax1le would have a hard time playing at the level they were while nafany was there. His point was their great play was being wasted under nafany and they might not keep up that top 5 level rifling Looks like that is happening.
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I am confused. Did you mean Sh1ro instead of electronic?
Still hopeful but having PTSD flashbacks from 2018-2019 and Colossus teams
Also all u need to see about c9.
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Hard to watch at times, they obviously struggle with mental still (at shiro's own admission).
I hope they'll be able to pull it together and show some better CS.
This is actually my opinion of a lot of teams, I feel that it's pretty much just ENCE and Vitality (and occasionally G2) that have been consistently good in the last 6 months.
C9 is another level though. I genuinely think that the chinese teams at EPL have had better T and CT sides, and despite doing insane shit at times have frequently played better CS
They have dogshit mental.
They're all tilted after map1 in every fucking series.
Everyone is blaming hobbit for getting 2 kills every map or electronic for being a dogshit igl. Neither are the issue, the issue is they all have awful mentals. They should remove hobbit and bring in someone who actually knows how to hype up the team or make a well timed joke to get everyone laughing.
Never seen a top team do well looking depressed the whole time. Depressed 24/7 = shit gameplay
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Previous Navi was literally that kind of team tho
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boomb4l was the guy who hyped them up
and when he left navi were dogshit
navi is literally the example I always use to prove my point
look at sdy in monte vs navi
So -hobbit +jL then
Honestly, I still have high hopes for the team because I'm a big fan of their potential peak and I look forward to seeing them at their full strength, which will take a while obviously.
A better mentality and mid-round calling is their kryptonite it seems... If they know the issues, they can work on it.
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Maybe not Top 1 but still tournament grand-finalists.
Top 1 is the expectation, not the realistic outcome.
The team is in complete trash state rn, but it's still salvageable. I remember first tournaments of mouz with karrigan, it was rly bad. Then they finally figured some stuff up and became dominating for a little time. I would give this roster 3 more months, and then we can talk about changes
It looks like time won't help. Hobbit is already washed, electronic is hiding behind IGL but probably not a star riflers as well.
They might get not as horrible as they are now but their state is very depressing.
They used to have 2 top 5 players and young IGL they could build around. Now they don't even have this.
New IGL is needed, new stars are needed.
Coaching is questionable (F_in?). Their starts were the most predictable in T1. Authority is missing - there is a reason why Jerry said he prefers to lead young players who listen to him.
Also Gambit Youngsters core is gone. It is different team now. I personally support players not the orgs.
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I think elec should come back to the multi killer role because he isn’t an igl as well and it has been obvious since this changes were made, sadly his calls are bullshit and it is even funny to hear from him calls such as Ferrari or some other +w rounds when he dies first without an exchange
Nafany built this whole team and he should have stayed
If this team does not start winning games NOW they should stop trying and get an igl and let electronic shoot heads
Not a very good team I'll be honest. I was always sceptical about electronic's igl ability. Maybe he needs time but navi just didn't work. He is burying his rifler talent deep in the ground with this role.
Hobbit is to be cut next probably. He just doesn't feels like fit in this team. But tbh this team is itself is Frankenstein like, not very good synergy is felt. +perfecto would be enough.
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