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Best "second team" in history
Kyrgyzstan TheNaturalBornKiller 
A team that was just unlucky to play in an era when another team was already dominating? My contenders: FaZe 2017. Unlucky to had SK at the time-frame. Was a crazy team with best entryfragger in history (rain) and highest peak in NiKo's career, this team could have won more events tbh. Liquid 2018 - lost so many events to Astralis, who was basically unplayable at the time. G2 nexa. Could have won Kato-Cologne, and even 2m$ superMajor in Stockholm. sadly got farmed by NaVi.
2023-09-25 16:24
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Russia sexiestuser
that faze was crazy, always looked unstoppable and when everyone had their hopes up theyd get absolutely destroyed by sk in finals
2023-09-25 16:26
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Botswana tosspoa
Yeah, they were clearly better than everyone else, but that SK was different.
2023-09-25 19:22
ye those guys were great, but unfortunately that was also the time we had a prime Brazilian SK that was almost unstoppable during their reign.
2023-09-25 19:24
For sure they were team to beat and also team to watch, but brasilians were on another level.
2023-09-25 21:25
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Poland _Lx_
nip in first 5 majors was 2nd place in 4 of them edit: but not denying there was domination from them in these years regardless
2023-09-25 16:29
Navi 2021 could maybe have surpassed astralis 2018 era but coke and war ruined it
2023-09-25 16:29
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Canada kairb
Those kinds of situations irritate me so much, I wish they got to fully live out their era.
2023-09-25 16:37
They were only strong because of the covid era Prime navi is dog piss in the grand scheme of things
2023-09-25 16:38
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Rare 0/8 for you
2023-09-25 16:39
flair . . .
2023-09-25 19:12
0/8 quit hltv
2023-09-25 19:20
+1 but they are not dog piss
2023-09-25 19:44
nah, they were never going to have an era regardless since 2022 was when teams started to become fully competitive with each other. In the first half of 2022 was FaZe at their greatest, a resurgent G2, Team Spirit, and a Gambit-turned C9. Then in the second half of 2022, was a slowly growing Vitality, FURIA at their greatest, Heroic, and Outsiders/VP.
2023-09-25 19:20
2019 liquid could have done so much more if it hadnt been for covid
2023-09-25 21:26
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North America mcCM
just for me personally it's nexa's g2. it always felt like they were so close to touching the top and winning tournaments but navi was their kryptonite.
2023-09-25 16:30
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Czech Republic MartyCzech
2023-09-25 19:12
2019 liquid is better than the 2018 version
2023-09-25 16:31
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liquid had more 1st place finish than 2nd place finish in 2019
2023-09-25 16:36
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Which supports my point
2023-09-25 21:16
thats cause they won more shit in 2019 since Astralis was often absent and Astralis was also starting to very slowly decline (even with their major wins).
2023-09-25 19:21
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Liquid was dominating all of 2019 besides the majors tbh..
2023-09-25 21:15
yeah they werent a second place team in 2019 they were easily the best team in the world during that summer
2023-09-25 19:36
read thread title again
2023-09-25 21:28
Vitality lost like 4/5 finals in a row in 2020. Could have been top 1 that year but ended up 3rd behind navi and astralis
2023-09-25 16:31
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online cs so automatically irrelevant
2023-09-25 21:28
Honorable mention: bayern munich 2017, 2018 Could have won 2 b2b UCL if Cristiano Ronaldo didnt exist
2023-09-25 16:33
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What what and who?
2023-09-25 19:07
1. liquid 2018 2. navi 2015-2016 3. avangar 2019 major
2023-09-25 19:13
Liquid 2018 prime example, FaZe 2017 actually came first in tournaments but Liquid always got rekt by Astralis in the finals while destroying everyone else.
2023-09-25 19:17
France GoIMP
FaZe 2017, were just a choker team. They also lost to NiP and gave REZ a long career in csgo lmao
2023-09-25 19:18
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Mongolia KhT
If they won Oakland they would also win grand slam season 1 at Belo Horizonte.Which just makes that loss even more painful.
2023-09-25 19:35
2023-09-25 19:19
United States Virgin Islands Mykolkaa
Navi late 2015-early 2016 with guardian. They were top 5 for sooo long and got so many good placings but simply lacked firepower to be the best team in the world. #2 at majors twice in a row as well
2023-09-25 19:33
the french squad against NIP in the beginning of cs:go
2023-09-25 19:34
very nice
2023-09-25 19:35
Brazil dio_scuro
Liquid 2018, it was sad to watch them lose every single time to Astralis.
2023-09-25 19:37
Portugal ReyZ555
2023-24 Cloud9
2023-09-25 19:39
nexa g2 was literally niko (and hunter occasionally) vs the world, the scene in 2021 was so shit that they were a competitive team today they wouldnt even be a top 8 team for sure
2023-09-25 19:43
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2023-09-25 19:45
ye Im ngl, that really was the case. And 2021's scene was just NaVi having basically no opposition with G2, Gambit (now C9), and Heroic being the only ones trying to contend. Fast forward a few months later and throughout 2022, was when the scene essentially regained its competitiveness. In the first half, it was basically NaVi, FaZe, G2, Cloud9 (originally Gambit), and a lesser extent ENCE, with the two former outright having no opposition except each other. Second half was basically a slowly growing Vitality, FURIA at their peak, Heroic, and Outsiders/VP
2023-09-25 19:55
Tbh that s not about beeing unlucky s about beeing not good enought
2023-09-25 19:47
United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Nexa G2, most definitely. They had an incredible roster but never could win tournament gold and were always second-best to the best teams. The Major in 2021 also comes to mind.
2023-09-25 19:54
Norway Gjellan
2023-09-25 21:24
faze 2017 was all aim no brain liquid 2018 is the obvious answer. astralis dominated them and they dominated everyone else
2023-09-25 21:27
Liquid 2018 was in pretty much every tournament final in 2018 - early 2019, losing every time to Astralis. The only times they weren't in the final were because they were eliminated by Astralis in the semi finals.
2023-09-25 22:38
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