heroic bad event, shit happens
c9, no clue tbh
astralis/9ine just t2 teams
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i wish heroic going to make big comeback in cs2 and win the major in home country
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i hope g2 win the major so the lord hooxi get a major in his home country
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heroic t2 team
astralis, c9 - bad event happens
c9 trash
heroic tired being top4 team
9ine bad mentality
liquid let them cook
astralis top4 cologne merchants
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The argument is what team is the best LAN team this year if you forgot. There are teams that won 3 or 2 trophies, including a major but somehow you keep mentioning team whose biggest achievement is Blast Premier Spring trophy and a team that keeps failing in every relevant tournament 💀
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lmao sure mate
Heroic is one of the most stabile top teams on LAN the last few years
Osee has been playing very good lately, you guys literally expect for every awper to be a mini s1mple or something 💀
Osee is not the problem.
osee is their best player, you want to blame anyone you have to blame liquid management for letting yeki igl and signing patsi to play the exact roles yeki wants to play. -patsi + any igl and move yeki to entry frag. Rainwaker has been solid and i would like to see him pan out, plus i like naf not having to play anchor in place of nitr0's former roles, he is too good to be playing anchor and I think rainwaker does a good enough job, at the very least rain waker isnt the issue. It is overlapping of roles and one of the best entry frag in the world for the past year or so is trying to call a half american and half european line up. it will not work.
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+1 well said. Patsi and yeki won't work together imo
i mean i dont really understand what liquid was thinking, like as if adding two random t2 eu players would make them t1. they need different leadership and more talent other than NAF/yekindar
c9 needs time and maybe an igl
Heroic has been super consistent for years, I wouldn't read too much into anything, lets see how they do in upcoming events
Astralis is just meh, consistent team but not amazing, not really sure what they could do or change, i think this is just what astralis is now
9INE is 9INE
Heroic benefits from playing weak groups.
C9 seems to have early chemistry problems, and Hobbit is a joke at this point.
Liquid has Yeki IGLing and T2/3 players in oSee and Rainwaker.
Astralis is not a Top 5 team, and they feature 2 inconsistent players in Buzz and Staehr.
9INE is one dimensional, and have yet to develop a map pool outside of Vertigo and Mirage; almost every T1 team has them figured out. Hades looks like he is done with the lineup.
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all top 4-5 teams have easy groups, thats how seeding works
Astralis had that in 2018
Heroic had it
And now Vitality also
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Top 4 over the full year, just behind Ence, Vitality, G2 bruh
yet the major difference is that prime Astralis can show up in the playoffs and had nearly NO OPPOSITION. Same goes for Vitality this year.
Heroic can't even showup in playoffs in 2023.
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They can yes, not everytime.
FInal in rio
final in katowice
victory in blast
just look at the teams they beat in playoff
faze at the major in quarters, go give shit to faze then lol
c9 was always going to be a weird team tbh, not surprised that they're off to a bad start
9ine has had lan troubles since the major, not sure what you expect
liquid let go of the na goat for some cct warrior, obviously they were gonna become t2 lol
heroic had and off tournament, they may be focused on cs2 now
Heroic = been trash since last two tourneys, lacks of plays and got countered, their aims aint prime anymore
C9 = needs fix, perfecto & elec not it for the roster, terrible calls and lack of teamwork, and basically sh1ro bailed them out the first game
Astralis = got hard countered by T2 teams that played a lot and they seems like freaking T3 in movement and calls wtf, even tho they got 3rd in group A, it seems like they just dont wanna win whatsoever
9ine = Online T2 teams, LAN chokers what do you expect?
TL = weak mentality i guess, they got burnt out with the two series a day format and dominated by EF rampant playstyles
C9 and liquid need more time... For the rest no real excuses just bad tournament by them
Astralis with stahear complete shit
9ine is like freshman rapper of counter strike
blows up everyone on major group stage and then goes silent
onehit wonder of a team
4 of them faced with EF thats the problem
This isn't news, upsets are way more common in today's meta.
They are practicing for CS2. Simple as that.
Things change, rankings change. Can’t always be in peak form.
Liquid management genuinely trolled
Here's my opinion as a copium smoking astralis fan:
i myself am disappointed by astralis' performance today, but i also think the hate they're getting is a little too much. EF is not a bad team, and upsets happen all the time.
that being said, so many of the rounds astralis lost were because of very sloppy mistakes. statistically blamef was the only player on astralis to have a positive kd, but on some rounds him and staher were just painful to watch. i don't even remember what borup was doing for half the game. the only two players i think played well were device and buzz, though they may not have gotten the most kills, i think they had the most impact for their team. oh well, who knows. maybe the team can get their shit together in time for the next event.
if stahear wins hltv player #1 i will personally write him an apology letter.
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imo astralis' loss was kinda expected. since the debut of the new roster they overperformed a bit: advanced to blast fall finals, got top4 in cologne, advanced to pro league knockout stage. every tournament so far has been a success and the team clearly made a big progress but it's still a new team with 2 players who have 0 experience in t1.
now the honeymoon is over and astralis need to keep working hard to overcome the weaknesses. the key is making staehr a legit player - he has crazy mechanics but can't show it on the server. if they manage to unlock him (just like they did with buzz who is surprisingly good now) they will make a big step towards being a title contender.
Heroic had bad tournament, c9 should disband, liquid go back to NA pls, astralis getting carried by dev1ce and baitF, 9ine belong in t2
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