Forum thread: Map pool change.

train needs rework then

2023-09-26 20:45

12 replies

Don't agree. It worked perfectly well as a tactical map and gave us some great games. You dont need to keep reworking maps that work perfectly well.

2023-09-26 20:46

9 replies

in my opinion its too ct sided

2023-09-26 20:46

6 replies

It was only CT sided between teams who had bad T sides. It was literally a 55-45 map, pretty well balanced. Also CT and T balance isnt the be all and end all as both teams get to play each side.

2023-09-26 20:48

5 replies

The main thing why people felt like Train is "x sided" is because they played the map like 5 times and ended up getting rekt by 5-stack who loved to play Train. Cuz me and my mates for example played quite a bit of Train, was by far the easiest map to win just cus enemies were usually quite bad compared to any other map. But, I gotta admit that Train on cs2 would be interesting to see due to the new smokes. I do believe they would need to do some slight changes to make the map work.

2023-09-26 21:25

4 replies

It was just bad T sides running into good CT sides on a map where you need some tactical knowledge and people called it CT sided.

2023-09-26 21:26

1 reply

Well, I'd say the side didn't really matter to us at least since the players were just overall bad at the map both on ct and t.

2023-09-26 21:51

people think its ct sided because 1.6 it was one of the most ct sided map along with nuke

2023-09-26 21:49

1 reply

Yeah until they get destroyed 15-0 on their CT and cry its a T map. Happens like every game lol.

2023-09-26 21:50

The only memorable moment in Vertigo is Astralis picking it vs Team Liquid in StarLadder Berlin Major. Train has SOOO many good moments.

2023-09-26 21:00

1 reply

And that isnt even the game. It's just the map is so shit we were shocked it got picked.

2023-09-26 21:01

The latest train is the best map along with the old cobblestone

2023-09-26 21:18

1 reply

Facts

2023-09-26 21:20

old cbble needs to be back into the pool

2023-09-26 20:46

What will 9ine do without vertigo? don't do it....

2023-09-26 20:46

2 replies

Learn to play a real map.

2023-09-26 20:46

9ine will quite literally disband if that happens😭

2023-09-26 20:47

vertigo is bad but train is worse

2023-09-26 20:48

3 replies

No, train gave us a lot of great games, Vertigo is always a snooze fest. You cant have Ancient, Anubis and Vertigo in at the same time. The map pool is just awful right now.

2023-09-26 20:49

2 replies

i agree, but putting train will only make it worse

2023-09-26 20:54

1 reply

No it wont. Train will give us great games like it always did. Train will improve the map pool.

2023-09-26 20:54

-cs2 +wc3

2023-09-26 20:50

Cobble and cache shoukd go first

2023-09-26 20:56

Get rid of Inferno.

2023-09-26 21:01

4 replies

Yeah just get rid of a common ground for loads of teams to have even matches and the best decider maps for most series. You cant be serious?

2023-09-26 21:03

3 replies

It's soooo entertaining watching the pro teams that have mastered the map, constantly save because retakes are damn near impossible. At least people attempt retakes on Vertigo, inferno is just boring to me.

2023-09-26 21:07

2 replies

Saving is because of the economy. T side can just keep attacking and attacking and attacking and because of this on CT side you basically have to either stop T side taking the site or save.

2023-09-26 21:12

if they really go with mr12 in cs2 there will be less saving meta, also because economy adjustments will soon follow.

2023-09-26 21:11

+Cache

2023-09-26 21:05

1 reply

-Anubis

2023-09-26 21:06

Daily vertigo hater post. -Overpass -Inferno +Train +Cbble

2023-09-26 21:07

3 replies

Hell no, removing Inferno is the worst idea.

2023-09-26 21:09

2 replies

Only good parts of inferno are the church easter egg and bells at t spawn.

2023-09-26 21:09

1 reply

The good parts of Inferno at the tactical aspects of it, the fact utility usage matters and the fact in encourages more rifling than awping, along with more pack oriented play from the T's. It also allows for T side to make choices at different stages of takes like going arch to B or spawn to A, these are rare but do happen. The map also puts pressure on CT side rotation aswell as T side calling meaning it is a map that great IGL's can really show what they can do on.

2023-09-26 21:14

Does anyone know how valve determines swapping maps out? What makes a good map to you guys? A bad map? I'm an older casual player and just want to understand it more.

2023-09-26 21:08

3 replies

They have zero logical reasoning.

2023-09-26 21:11

They usually browse hltv forums because it's well-know that it is filled with intellectual and reasonable individuals.

2023-09-26 21:27

1 reply

2023-09-26 21:51

-mirage

2023-09-26 21:14

2 replies

No. Its by far the most liked home map and is very balanced in terms of styles that can play it.

2023-09-26 21:15

2023-09-26 21:55

vertigo is the best map

2023-09-26 21:29

2 replies

Good joke.

2023-09-26 21:34

1 reply

its fun and solid map. it would be better if they would kick mirage

2023-09-26 21:45

2023-09-26 21:40

Just rotate maps more often like every other game does ffs

2023-09-26 21:42

3 replies

So we dont ever get a real meta developed and we constantly and artificially change who the best teams are?

2023-09-26 21:47

2 replies

How about best teams being the ones who can also adapt to map changes?

2023-09-27 13:49

1 reply

Ok but that is total random, sometimes a map just suits you right away and sometimes and map will never suit you no matter how much you practice it. You will just make who is the best team totally artificial.

2023-09-27 19:19

no, -mirage most played map should be rested in the bench and also maps should be rotated every couple months or so

2023-09-26 21:47

Id love to see train on CS2. The new smokes will make executes really strong

2023-09-26 21:51

-Mirage -Vertigo +Cobblestone +Cache/Dust2

2023-09-26 21:53