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Although I am only playing CS2 for like a month now and I don't really want to go back to cs go (I accept CS2's flaws for now), I understand that many players prefer cs go a lot still and it would be stupid for volvo to just turn it off and force people to play CS2 only, since this game has a lot of issues (the biggest one is lag compensation/dying behind walls etc)
Also, a lot of people have trash PC's that cannot handle CS2 well enough.
As volvo, I'd be afraid that a lot of players will be so disappointed after being forced to play CS2 that they will leave after few days resulting in a big loss of playercount of the game until volvo really fixes CS2 and until people notice the game is playable again.
risky move, gaben, risky move.
I don't think majority will just leave and will result in a player count loss, but it's just not a good enough game compared to csgo atm, that's all.
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that's not the point, some players leaving is still a drop in the ocean.
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Bruh no one cares about season 4000 of pro league at this point, it's just another tournament in an endless circuit
There will never be a good time to launch, even if they launch on the player break the players will have to learn the new game instead of actually having a break from playing
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Every time will be a bad time to update, and Valve notoriously have never pushed out updates with tournaments in mind, they literally do not care. This is just the first time that possibly there won't be another revision to go to for the current tournament
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Nothing is out of the picture, valve pushed the r8 update as a serious update too, despite everyone knowing it is so stupidly broken it would have instantly break the entire game if it stayed that way.
CSGO IS TOO GOATED I WANT TO PLAY CSGO INFERNO FOREVER DONT TAKE THIS GAME AWAY FROM ME GABEN
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inferno.... have you played tuscan before?
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cobblestone best cs:go map
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cs2 graphics not even better, it just looks like cartoon... and it is too bright
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i guess im just not a fan of the cartoonish style.
some maps like ancient look good.
but mirage for example is way too bright for my taste and look dull, palm trees look kinda plastic etc.
finally someone who thinks like me, honestly I didn't see anything special in this graphic, it looks very cartoony and plasticized, I really liked the gray and gloomy graphics of cs:go, it was one of the things that never bothered me since its launch in 2012, I like simplicity, for me cs:go's graphics are more than enough, cs shouldn't even be a game focused on graphics, cs2 is just useless marketing to try steal Valorant playerbase
there much rumors that devs fixt a hole bunch of problems... but the fixies are not in the beta versions atm. i have a low mid pc 5700xt r5 3600 16gb ram...and always above 200 fps with high settings....
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yeah thats right... but i thinks its more playable then csgo when its released... csgo was dogshit until early 2014
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Stop comparing CSGO with CS2.
CSGO didnt try to replace CS 1.6 nor Source and wasnt even the main game in competitive scene. It was just another new CS game so it had all the time in the world to get better. CS2 will replace CSGO and in few months will be in competitive scene as the new game to play.
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yes and i think the game is way more ready then the beta we can play....
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on Premier mode i have 180-220 fps all the time... a friend has also the 5700x from asus mine is powercolor and a 3700x and also 200-230 fps all the time... full hd with mid-high settings...
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r5 3600 + xt5700x was mid range when i build it in 2019-2020....atm r5 3600 kost around 50 bucks 5700x around 120€... thats more low then mid range for me
no one will leave
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I personally have 1 friend that has a trash PC that runs cs go on 150+ fps and in CS2 he cant even get stable 60, he stopped playing CS2 with my group of friends because it's unplayable, he said he won't be playing it if they close cs go because its pointless
there is 1 person that will leave
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I meant of the people crying and complaining about the mechanics, not performance. Your friend with trash pc will upgrade and he will still play the game.
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I mean, come on. It's 2023 game, and he has 60 fps. How many new games give you this nowadays? You either have to buy 3080 to even think about playing, or not to play at all. Upgrading PC can be the best solution, you can use it not only for gaming, but for work and educating purposes
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How do you use a 3080 for educational purposes when a few years old 200$ card (now like 50 propably) also lets u run a pc, or even better a cpu with built in graphic chip lmao. Also csgo was a game populat amongst a huge playerbase around the world, a lot of those players can barely afford to spend money on low end pcs, now they cant play cs competetively anymore
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Well, game is 11 years old, if you want to be eligible - buy new hardware.
Some programs require good cards, if we are talking about game development, Unity, UE5, etc
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Yeah but cs2 is a competetive shooter that requires high performance and not some AAA title. Imo valve put their main focus on the wrong things, cs players at a high level dont give a fuck about some shimmering water and a nice looking wall, they want crisp mechanics, good and stable performance, consistency etc etc
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When I played CS;GO in the past, I very often had like 30 fps. So reading that 60 fps is 'too low' is just funny to me. Moreover, Valve will fix performance issues in the future, they already fixed water part. It's not that these performance issues are going to stay in the future. Valve for sure knows that many players are playing from calculators from 2000s (They have detailed stats about each players hardware). They can't allow gamblers leave the game, so they will think of something.
Of course, most of the competitive players care about performance, but looks are also important.
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I started playing cs like that too, it works in random mm games but good luck playing faceit lvl 10+ with 60 fps, its a great experience!
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Its a massive disadvantage, it stops ypu from being consistent, i mean sure fpr the avg cs player it wont matter since they are fold nova lol
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But they dont know how to properly peek and counterstrafe anyways and most importantly they wont realise why they died. So maybe it makes a big difference for the worse player but at least they dont really feel it directly.
Tldr its ass for everyone but imo it kills the fun more for better players
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150 fps was awful on csgo if that was ur avg, cs2 feels a bit better with such low fps at least
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Of course, no doubt about high level games. But most of the players are casuals, it won't matter that much.
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Well yeah but the experience is still awful compared to csgo so they will propably just stop playing iglf thry cant upgrade pc
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That's true, unfortunately
If your friend can't maintain a stable 60FPS on CS2 then he probably can't maintain a stable FPS on other modern titles.
I get 600+FPS on CS:GO and around 380 on CS2 (Not trying to brag)
FPS does take a hit but don't expect game developers to release new games that run 150+FPS on hardware 10 years old.
It's your friends choice to upgrade his parts and complaining about the game being unplayable is his own choice for not doing so.
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What cpu and gpu do you have if I may ask?
Dude chill. You can play csgo a time after cs2 is released. But the best way to get better on cs2 is just to play it. thats how NIP won 87-0 . They grinded csgo and one everything. Until the other teams catched up.
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I think most people play for fun, even Pugs Faceit, and things like that, and the experience in CS2 is horrible, I believe that most players who play a more serious game don't get any pleasure from playing this game
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Hitting shots feels way less satisfying, just feels random af at times and getting killed usually looks incredibly dumb now, valve has a lot of work to do still
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Are you using amd processors? If yes the upgrading on am4 is very easy and quite cheap.
Even if not you could probably very cheaply upgrade to am4
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I doubt volvo release the game, probably open beta or something like that. But if Volvo want to force u to play they will, they don’t care
Tbf it's already good enough for most players (below LE which is 90%) and that's what makes up the player base. For more skilled players which notice more problems, fixes will come with the release and in the next months which is ok. Additional pressure will be created by pros which are forced to play officials in CS2 now
lmao Valve just give us the game, don't care about those noobs who think the game is in a bad state and therefore cannot be released, we all know it's great and it's gonna elevate the level of esports once again, don't worry, those shitting on it will be the first ones queueing for a Premier match lmaooooo
i remember when i had to upgrade my pc to dual core finally (amd athlon fx-6000) and buy a xfx 6600gt just so i could get 100 frames flat with 32 bit in smokes
in 1.6, you could literally see through smokes if you played the game in 16 bit but the real bonus was you had mad frames in 16 bit, 32 bit the smokes worked perfect but frames were trash, for official matches the admin made everyone take screenshots and upload them to match page to make sure nobody could see through smokes otherwise they got dq'd, all 10 players had to meet in mid, throw down a bunch of smokes and take screenshots
you guys got it easy compared to back then
trust me when i say theyre going to roll out the game and make you upgrade later
Aslong as skins exist it doesn't matter.
Lets be honest, CSGO went on for years when the player count was nowhere near what it is now while still being inflated by afkers collecting cases. They're taking CSGO and don't give af who complains about it. Play CS2, Dont, they dont care either way.
they 100% should not force cs2 on people. just like in the cs1.6-source and even 1.6/source to csgo you had people come and go when they wanted. it wasnt a forced norm. although now there is a massive infrastructure built up around csgo that valve want to plant cs2 straight into. i feel its a bad idea to force it on everyone
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this is basically it. they never forced earlier players out of their comfort version, the players themselves came around. But now? you dont have a choice and have to do some extra fuckery that many wont do just play their old game. It will only create resentment for a game they love.
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Looking at what is happening now with cs2 the jump from csgo to cs2 is a lot better than it was to start with when it was cssource/1.6 to csgo. As csgo was ass to start with
i don't mind better graphics but cs should look rusty.
This "bad pc" argument is so dumb. While I understand it's helpful to make your game more accessible, you cannot expect devs to give a shit about people who have decade old toasters. Gaming isn't a god given right, if you can't afford to have a PC to play new releases, that's on you.
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This argument is dumb as well tbh, I have an i3-13100 and an rx 7800 xt, so basically very new hardware and my fps are 80-100 on ancient sometimes
I mean wtf that’s just garbage optimisation, feels like starfield or cyberpunk at release
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I die behind walls in csgo since 2014.
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Yeah obviously 10 year old hardware does not need to be supported anymore but come on, everybody that has hardware from 2016 should still be able to play. Especially new hardware is very hard to get for some people bc of the fucked up pricing ever since the mining boom
If people have 20 years old PCs unable to run CS2 in a decent frame rate then it is about time those people upgrade the PC. It is time to move on and not let the history to drag down the evolution. It is just logical that new improved things need more horsepower, otherwise we would be still playing CS1.6 with crappy tickrate and low texture quality
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Yup, and now we're back 10 years in the past,nobody likes that version but its forced upon us, and it will take years before it becomes good... Thats so bad for the competitive scene
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Movement feels like agents gained 50 kg
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totally agree my pc isnt great but i play csgo fine. cant even open cs2 and join a server. this will only split up all the players and thousands wont be playing cs2. I think csgo will be like cs 1.6 and cs2 will be like condition zero or counterstrike source
same game plz stop
if u didnt witness 1.6 to GO, plzplzl just stop
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