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Will buy used RX 7900XTX for 550 Euro.
Anyone care sharing their experience with AMD GPU?
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always have been the goats
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The amd cpu catches on fire though...
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funny how amd haters still use this argument thats like 20 years old
in reality amd is actually way more efficient in power consumption
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no he means like actual modern amd cpu literally exploding inside your computer which happened earlier this year
not relevant
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its not, it even has lower temperature limit than 7700x to prevent destroying silicon, it is hotter bcs of large cache layer
on same wattage intel will be cooler, but mostly intel is 2-3x wattage than amd x3d chips, so intel is hotter + everybody forgets that overclocked ddr5 needs cooling too, mb also
so for gaming only x3d > intel
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intel has better ihs + cache layer is hot, bcs it is on ccd, not beside
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actually 7950x3d has higher clocks in x3d ccd, so it is faster than 7800x3d
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not far ahead at all, less than 10% at best. it's definitely far bellow the 14700k in multithreaded tasks. opening 10 chrome tabs, spotify and discord is already enough to make them even in gaming (techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-147..). the more apps you open, the worse it gets for the 7800x3d. they basically cost the same since you have to get ddr5 ram for amd so anyone sane will go for an i7.
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Anyone sane would go for a 7800x3D considering 14700k is end of lifecycle and literally a 1-3% improvement in games over the 13700k whilst being an inefficient power hog with a 30% power increase over its last generation.
Intel really have fallen from grace, just increasing power limits to try and catch up to AMD.
Source:
youtube.com/watch?v=0oALfgsyOg4
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I mean ofc that’s gonna be the case it’s gonna handle more tabs better when it’s got more votes? Anything on the power usage being near that of a high end gpu at peak?
Besides who the hell uses 8 chrome tabs while gaming? I can understand a couple (SoundCloud and hltv/twitter) but 8 is ludicrous. Seems like a very situational based scenario, if you need that many cores it’s pretty self explanatory.
But that isn’t making a difference for cs either way, the usage is around 60%.
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i dont, only discord sometimes
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i just cant keep multiple apps/web pages at same time, i feel like in dirty room
it works until the point you need to reinstall your entire windows because core parking fucked up and suddenly nothing works at full speed
just AMD drivers things
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What are you even talking about? You stuck in 2013 or what?
Currently, it looks like this:
GPU, no raytracing 1080p and 1440p: AMD
GPU, no raytracing 4K+: nVidia
GPU Raytracing, any resolution: nVidia
Pro GPU (servers, workstations, video processing, AI computing): nVidia
CPU for PCs and workstations: AMD
Laptop CPUs: Intel
Server CPUs: mainly Intel, but depends on specific task
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GPU, no raytracing 1080p and 1440p: nVidia (faster and much lower wattage)
GPU, no raytracing 4K+: nVidia (4090 is simply best card rn)
GPU Raytracing, any resolution: nVidia (but raytracing is still shit, only good raytracing implementation rn is cyberpunk with path tracing and ray reconstruction), (and amd is getting better in raytracing)
Pro GPU (servers, workstations, video processing, AI computing): depends on workflow, sometimes amd can be faster and better
CPU for PCs and workstations: AMD (Intel is better only at 3x price platform, custom water cooling and unlim wattage)
Laptop CPUs: AMD (best perf/w)
Server CPUs: depends on workflow
I think you forgot which way the greater than sign goes. Open mouth eats the greater. That's why I said NVIDIA is greater than AMD GPU.
As far as performance for gaming, historically Intel has been better 1:1.
As for multi-process computing, historically AMD has been better 1:1.
Of course, an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X is going to perform better than an Intel i5 or Intel i9 11th gen will perform better than a Ryzen 7 3700x. That's why I say a 1:1.
You can get into the servers, ESXi hosts, etc and then you're on a different level. I'm strictly speaking to the average at home work, gaming, streaming machine.
you forgot to add :
living in 2010
I went from an AMD processor to intel and it was a terrible decision. runs way hotter, uses more power and doesnt perform any better at all.
NVidia goated though especially with games that support DLSS 3
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There's so truth to this AMD chips are rated to run at 95C whereas intel chips are rated to run at 80C. But none of that really matters because power consumption is much better on ryzen.
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Different parts of the chip will run at different speeds they're probably rated for 95C because that part of the chip reports that temperature or because of the architecture. They don't actually output more heat or just look at the total TDP.
techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-9-7950x...
techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i9-14900k..
170w vs 250w and the Ryzen chip is faster in most workloads. Ryzen is more efficient than Intel case closed. Intel hasn't even released a new architecture in 3 generations.
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"intel chips rated at 80" yeah yeah, instant 100 degree when you put workflow on it even with aio
they generally do, but many amd models offer great value for the money and have more efficient power consumption
bro living in 2011
my AMD 3700x ran consistently at like 75 under load and my i5 13600k runs at 90-100 under loads. the AMD chip idled at under 40 and the intel chip idles at 40-50s. Not to mention the intel chip randomly spikes way higher in temp. Its strange too because i got a case with better airflow and upgraded my cpu cooler
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imagine having intel in 2023 xDDDDDDDDDD
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I have amd gpu and its fine 👍
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Do you ever get crashes or frame stutters in CS2? I have an AMD card and it's been problematic. Changing graphics settings causes stutters and changing from bordered to fullscreen also causes that
Amd proccesor Good but their Gpu Awful
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they are definitely not doing too well on GPUs
-drivers still problematic
-DLSS (balanced) = FSR (quality)
-ray tracing is an entire gen behind in performance
-4090 = no answer
40'8'0 = 7'9'00xtx.
there's also 7900xt and 7900. wtf?
-accoding to industry rumours, they've given up on high end cards for next gen (radeon 8000 series) and will focus on mid to low end. NVIDIA were also planning a MASSIVE performance leap with the 5090 with chiplet architecture but apparently its cancelled it and they've lowered it to their 2nd best chip with a classic monolithic die
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AMD would 100% sell a $2000 GPU if their roles were reversed. And if they HAD an answer to the 4090.
Too bad their GPU division doesn't get as much love as their CPU division. That and NVIDIA is not like Intel who stopped making meaningful improvements when AMD didn't have Ryzen.
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doesnt matter if youd sell them. Its that you could put the same amount of engineering time into a processor that costs 5x more and is used for AI models and they could sell 500x more. Why would they focus on the consumer enthusiast market at all?
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there was actually intel line up called extreme, while consumer cpus had 4 cores, those had up to 18 cores and they were selling really good, almost every popular gaming youtuber had one some time ago
imagine being this ignorant lol AMD could make a better gpu tomorrow if they wanted to, you think it's by mistake their best gpu always matches the 2nd best Nvidia gpu for every generation?
rtx 4080= rx 7900 xtx
rtx 3080= rx 6950xt
rtx 2080= rx 5900
GTX 1080= RX Vega 64
before they make these gpus they agree with Nvidia on how the performance is gonna be. This is not by accident.
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how ironic calling me ignorant
-1080 = vega 64 sure. but there's no rx 5900 outside of your delusions maybe. the 6950xt = 3090 NOT the 3080. Radeon 6000 did match RTX 3000 series.
-as a corp do you think AMD don't want to profit as much as they can? instead according to you AMD seems to have some weird partnership with NVIDIA to only produce the 2nd best chips. what????
-as for "they could make better GPUs tomorrow", you know there are rumours from reputable insiders that AMD have completely given up on high-end radeon 8000 series next gen GPUs because they cannot meet NVIDIA's RTX 5000 series rumoured performance numbers.
That's why NVIDIA who were initially planning on the biggest performance leap since Maxwell (GTX 900) -> Pascal (GTX 10) now apparently are not doing so because there will be no competition. Now unless this is some Aleksib fake A go B strat from AMD which is unlikely as it has never happened in the industry, AMD has already lost "tomorrow's game"
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you could just paste msrp prices for ryzen 5000, that were 30-50% higher than ryzen 3000, bcs thay caught up intel
They could build a better GPU than the 7900xtx they just chose not to they use chiplets and no longer have the CU constraints of their old architecture. They just know there's no market for an AMD card above $600 if you have $1100 to spend you can probably spend $1300 on a GPU. They also don't care about their GPU division because their CPU division is doing well they'd have to cut production on a server CPU they could potentially sell for $10k to sell a GPU for $800 to the 11 people who want an AMD card..
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"they just chose not to" is the dumbest marketing ever and you fell for that. No matter the product they want to profit. This isn't an AMD vs NVIDIA thing- its a corps-who-want-to-become-the-next-Apple vs consumers thing.
Also, why do you think there are so few GPUs in the 7000 series vs the 6000 series? Because there's inherent problems in their architecture/production that have been very well reported upon since the 7000 series launch. Aside from the RX 7900 GPUs all other ones are barely faster than 6000 series.
I do agree that they could definitely give some love to their GPU division. Their CPUs were godawful but they worked on it and now they beat Intel. If they want to continue to sell GPUs they also need to work on their GPU division to one day match NVIDIA.
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RDNA 3 does suck, RNDA 2 was ok for the time. They could build something bigger than the 7900xtx, but they chose not to or decided it wasn't worth the investment.
"AMD doesn't really need an answer to the 4090. It's a $2000 gpu barely anyone has one anyways."
2000$ gpu (i remind that msrp is 1600$) is sold out everywhere (at least in poland) and sells better than 4080 and 4070 ti together
I mean sure AMD lacks in those departments compared to Nvidia but the Price to performance is still insane, A lot of people (including me) would rather save 200$ and spend it on other better components when you can get the same raw performance of an Nvidia card (without the bonuses like a better upscaller and better raytracing performances).
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Yeah its definitely better price/perf wise. Their drivers have also come a long way since the "bad drivers" days but they still cause the occasional issues. (anti-lag+ vac bans).
There's still a lot of people who have 0 issues and some for whom its one thing after another.
I'm personally burned out of AMD drivers from an old experience post Adrenaline (start of the good drivers) while with NVIDIA everything just works. Too bad they are pricing things like they're Apple.
If you play older games without RT or DLSS, Nvidia's just worse. AMD has better performance in those scenarios at a lower cost.
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it is not worse, amd doesnt have advantage in raster performance
Thank god, chiplets are not a good thing for gaming, monolithic is the way.
-didn't have any issues with drivers
-fsr a bit worse for now, but what kind of fool would use it on a gpu of this level?
-RT is a fucking joke (only few games looks good with it)
-4090 what price?
-4080 what price?
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-then you are lucky. I had to swap out my 5700XT for a GTX 1070 because of constant bsods and crashes and external display output. And yeah I did use DDU.
-FSR/DLSS is for when your GPU cannot give you 60fps atleast. Maybe not today but for tomorrow.
-RT is definitely better and the future of lighting. You have to actually experience it to know the insane difference vs traditional lighting
-pricing doesn't matter. AMD would sell a $2000 GPU as well IF they had equal performance. Just look at current 7000 series lower/mid end cards they have. Just like NVIDIA 40 series (except 4080 and 4090) they are barely any faster than the 6000 series and are priced behind NVIDIA because they HAVE to sell it somehow.
I'm not saying AMD GPUs are bad. If you didn't suffer like me by all means feel free to use them. But I had too many problems (small and big) to recommend them. WIth NVIDIA it just works like plug-and-play.
- i dont have amd card, but friend had 5700XT, and he switched to nvidia bcs of black screens, unoptimized first drivers and so on
- modern games just need those techs, bcs native resolution has its artifacts too
- rn yes, agree, only cp 2077 looks decent
- sold out in poland
- sold out in poland
The only real deficit is the software side and KI support.
The card itself can compete with nvidia easy.
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Yes I heard it was stuttering a lot. But now its perfect?
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Even on nvidia the game stutters lol, i have an overclocked 12600K and a 3080 ti
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I have 6950 XT and have had no issues at all so far
It mogs the 4070 from NVIDIA so yea
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Maybe in your country
When I built my PC couple months ago I chose it over the 4070 because of 16 GB VRAM instead of 12 of the 4070
They were the same price
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Nice price! Download amd adrenalin and make sure tio have latest drivers if you want to play a recently released game. Also easy to undervolt (and over/underclock) in adrenalin.
Guy called Ancient Gameplays on youtube is pretty entertaining and usually covers all the News and updates regarding AMD GPUs.
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There is FSR3
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yah sure. if you think fsr3 have the same or better quality... amd is years behind on upscalers quality.
let just tell you something. dlss, frame gen and now ray reconstruction...
they said fsr3 is great for old gpus that support rt... now let me ask you. how many games you think the older rt gpus can run rt with decent quality and performance? almost 0, so why you need fsr3 for them?
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let me try explain in other words
fsr3 will give extra performance for gpus that support rt. with rt on or off, but some games you cant use fsr or dlss if rt is off.
but older gpus even with dlss or fsr cant run this games with decent quality and performance.
is like making roads for cars when everyone use just bikes.
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“but some games you cant use fsr or dlss if rt is off.”
which games
“but older gpus even with dlss or fsr cant run this games with decent quality and performance.”
you think nvidia 2xxx/1xxx can’t run modern games on low/medium at all?
what’s wrong with making 30fps game into a 60fps, or what’s more probable 45fps game into a 90fps one?
you know that games do low/medium settings based on steam PCs medium hardware that are like 1650s, right? you’re probably thinking about ancient hardware like gtx650/750s, because 1650 runs all games in 2023 just fine:
youtu.be/pCUcQmpFlHw?si=dWZY-9REwG9a6GMo
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1650 is a competitor to rx580, a card that’s been the shit in 2016-17. you’re implying cards that are older than them, 7yo+ cards.. while 1650 costs 130$
amazon.com/PNY-GeForce%C2%AE-GDDR6-VERTO..
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metro exodus last time i played like 3 or 4 months ago you could not use dlss or fsr without rt on, and i just 1 on the list.
"or what’s more probable 45fps game into a 90fps one?'
i have problem with if graphics ha some quality and not all off on low with upscalers on... i dont play games on my phone, so that settings with pixels all around can be a problem for my eyes.
"1650 runs all games in 2023 just fine"
you really just watch benchmarks... so i will give you few names from 2023.
ARK Survival Ascended
Alan Wake 2
Starfield
and the list goes on... but tell about the 1650 how "just fine" it runs this games.
for more just check UE5 games.
run and playable is very different when you are ingame. benchmark quality that YT shows its not the reality. same for 4k
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so instead of blaming the games that run like crap even on top hardware, you’re gonna blame the 1650?
same way you blamed the whole dlss/fsr thing instead of devs that bugged out the setting in the menu?
what if 1650 has 30fps, yeah the lowest quality, yeah with fsr. but it’s an unptimized game and 130$ card.
and even with all that, it’d be 60fps with fsr3, wouldn’t it
youtu.be/3Suoqge1CD8?si=sJ2YkLMj-JE4poA6..
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I myself have went through that unoptimized mess with 4070ti, where TLOU eats all 12gb of vram in 1080p, forspoken, hogwarts legacy barely playable with RT without dlss. But am I gonna blame the cards because of that? No, because cyberpunk 2077 eats 8gb vram even with the latest 2.0 patch and RT Ultra+Path tracing and TLOU was playable on ps3, that came out in 2005. There’re games like forza horizon 5, where you enter and have 200fps, and there’re games like TLOU/RE4 (remakes) when you enter and have 45 fps with stutters. you’re making the problem out of the wrong field
and how exactly would yt benchmark differ from reality, those are the same people that just record their screens. if you’re talking about pixels, it’s because ur playing on a 1080p monitor then, DLSS is expected to use in 1440p/4K: imgsli.com/MjE5MzA4
you’re talking different tier of games here (heavy remakes, unoptimized games and UE5 new gen games) while talking about 1650 users, not to say that not all new games are like that. and I obviously exaggerated with 1650, that was a failed card even on launch. even 1660 is 2x faster and you can get smth like rx6600 if you pay up 200$ instead of 130$. And obviously steam settings will get higher eventually, and if you look at it even now: store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Ha..
it’s 3060 already. (it was 1660 a year ago)
“i have problem with if graphics ha some quality and not all off on low with upscalers on...” and that’s the thing, instead of playing all low (where the game looks empty) they can play medium+fsr/dlss. Instead of all medium, high+fsr. instead of ultra they can play ultra+RT, that’s the thing, and that's why upscalers were introduced in the first place..
and that's the same reason for framegens (dlss3/fsr3)..
Switched from AMD to Nvidia (2070 Ti) and had the worst experience with their drivers. (Multiple reinstalls, DDU, Windows reinstalls; always worked for a few weeks and then again crashes, freezes, corruption of recorded video, trouble with the third monitor, etc.) Switched to 7900 XT right after it came out, and all issues magically disappeared. (Apart from freezes in CS:GO when it came out but now it's good.)
Drivers are more or less the same on both platforms. For the average dude, i would always recommend a AMD card. Since you are buying a 7900 XTX, for 550 Euro, i would first check if it worked, and then buy it no questions asked.
i myself rock a 6950 XT, and i have nothing to complain about
I have one. I like it so far
have had multiple friends switch to amd and some build their first systems with amd gpus, some do editing, some emulating and other gaming, etc. So far no major issues, I helped them all undervolt and OC their cards, completely stable and no complaints.
Just get newest drivers with fresh windows install (you honestly dont have to just use DDU) and you are good.
Of course production wise amd gpus aren't at nvidia level but they are more than good enough for casual or semi professional use.
What model 7900xtx are you getting used?
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Yeah amd is insanely good for the price compared to nvidia
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the voices in his head
Horrible drivers, never again
Had problem with one some years along, never buying again. But my brother got 6800 so we will see how his experience will go.
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shit drivers, the gpu itself is also dogshit. I've ran into so many slight issues such as some random shit appearing on the screen from time to time. Shadowplay is way better than whatever the fuck amd has as well, it's way easier to navigate nvidia than amd and has more features. Creative work such as using adobe pr runs better on nvidia as well
i had to buy amd back in 2019 cuz it was cheaper than NVIDIA (RX 590)
Pros:
u can save some money on heating
cheaper
Conns:
everything u can imagine
high tempts (it even disables fans on GPU LMAO unless u have AMD Adrenaline)
crashes
freezes
streaming horrible (recording in general like the quality of the video is so bad)
New ones are fine but old are pure dogshit. Next time I'd prob go for NVIDIA
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"streaming horrible (recording in general like the quality of the video is so bad)"
do not lie mens, I have a yt channel and had an rx580 around that time, quality didn't change at all while switching nvidia shadowplay -> amd relive -> nvidia shadowplay. I'd say it was even better than I have now with shadowplay, it was so clean. though I was recording with 50mbps or something bitrate.
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On Streamlabs even with 8k bitrate it was horrible
Well yeap 50mbps is the reason why it was clean
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Do you even have AMD?
It turns them off completly even with heavy load LMAO u gotta set it in AMD Adrenaline
Like it causes insane unwanted overheating without their fucked software
7900xtx for 550 euros is definitely worth it over nvidia gpus at that price. You get 4080-like performance for half the price. If you don't want to use ray tracing you can play every game even without FSR3 if you so desire.
AMD is worst than intel at processors and worst than nvidia at video cards.
Before i had amd processors(ryzen 5 3600)/amd gpu(asus rog strix 5700xt) and they sucked both of them, alot of problems, alots of stutterings in game, alot of problems with crashes, any problems you imagine, i had them- i cannot even sell them(because they are not working properly) so i also lost alot of money because i cannot resell them.
i changed to intel(i5-13600k)/nvidia(gigabyte aero 4700ti) and everything is perfect as is supposed to be
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I had crashes too when I first had 3600x, found out that it was my RAM working improperly on 4000Mhz same day, put it on 3800 and crashes went away. on the second day found that it doesn't boost properly to the max clock speeds, having base clock of 3.6-3.9ghz all the time (the reason for low performance and stutters) instead of 4.4, had to manually overclock/undervolt it and had a performance gain and stutters were gone from the games that were cpu heavy.
it certainly isn't plug&play like intel, but it was outperforming 9400f/10400f so not like I was mad.
of course everything is nice with 13600k, because it's double the performance of 3600x. you should compare it to more recent and stronger AMDs.
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For 5-10% cheaper(for processor/gpu) so almost nothing compare to the price of the build. i had to fight for 2-3 years with that pc, i always had stuttering in online games but online games only.. AAA singleplayer working perfectly so i never expected to be a faulty cpu- for two years i checked ram, motherboards, cables, videocards, i test new lan cards, everything possible, i even changed my ISP even i never wanted to leave the former ISP, the last piece that i tested was the processor and guess what? faulty processor even in synthetic tests everything was fine. I will never buy and AMD product in my life- if my kids will even buy an AMD product when they will be older i will disinherit them.
I have an XFX 6700XT. Performance has been great and super smooth, and I haven't had any trouble with drivers.
The only complaint I have are weirdly high hotspot readings. The average temps according to the AMD software are fine for my case -- never above 75c -- but HWINFO gives hotspot readings as high as 108c under load, which was alarming. Its not throttling though, so I don't think i'd have much luck with customer service.
I have the 7900XT and I am very happy about dont be scared about ppl telling ''amd drivers LUL'' they're brainless animals just install dd uninstaller and whenever you want to update your drivers uninstall the old driver with ddu and just install the new one and you will have no problems you have easy tutorials on yt. I am very happy with the card there is a small coil whine when I push it in big games (cyberpunk starfield...) but with smaller games like cs or lol I dont have any,
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it's total system draw, not what gpu is eating.
7900xtx tdp is 355w, and 4090's tdp is 450w.
and none of those cards would eat that much while playing cs2. it's for heavy raytracing +4K, where both of these card would eat 300w+, so your claim that it'd eat this much "to just run esports games" is completely false.
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... and using 4x msaa and high shadows on 1280x960 will make your gpu eat 300+watts, got it. you're damned casual, shut the fuck up.
imagine insulting the most popular res, go play on 1440p on your ass-piss level of matchmaking against other casuals, tf are you doing on hltv and watching matches for.
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never had any AMD driver bugs with recommended versions, experimental versions can be shit though
7900XTX for 550E? That's a steal!
If you don't care about RT they are really good GPUs, especially when undervolted.
For that price it is nice.
Went from R9 390 to 5700XT to 6900XT and never had problems. Works out of the box and don't have to download weird blob drivers like for Nvidia.
AMD BAD.. Intel Best
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Yes arc so good
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ARC top1 GPU for sure. This guy gets it.
I have AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX and it works perfectly
I have 6700xt for a few months now (184$) the performance jump from rx 580 to this is marginal. Now I pretty much play every single AAA games at lock 60fps ultra settings (1080p). I don't have problems driver wise or when it comes to playing games outside of cs2, only cs2 had stutters early until they release that driver that fixed the problem.
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i have rx580 rn, do you recommend the upgrade to the 6700xt or should i wait and look for something else?
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Very solid performance upgrade, at least 2 times the performance of rx580. It performs similar to rtx 3070 while having 4gb more vram. it's simply the best bang for buck rn, for a card a tier higher like 6800xt or 6900xt, the pricing at used market were like at least 2 times the price of 6700xt, I think most cards don't come close when it comes to price to performance value.
a friend of mine had an issue with cs2 and 7900, but it might depend on specific models too.
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AMD released a couple updates recently to deal with issues in CS2, it runs pretty flawless now, at least for me. I have a 7900XTX and 7950x3D.
Don't ask these kind of questions here. 90% of people here have no idea cause they never had any decent PC (cause they're kids) or just repeat whatever nonsense they've heard anywhere else.
On topic, if you don't care too much about RT, AMD is just fine. 7900XTX will slightly beat the 4080 in most of the games, while mostly being cheaper. Both AMD and Nvidia have driver issues here and there, software itself is miles ahead on the AMD side.
And if you hear anyone saying Intel is better than AMD for gaming, just disregard this person completely. Currently, no Intel CPU can match the 7800x3d for gaming.
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Someone on HLTV that actually knows what they are talking about. No fanboying, just spitting facts.
+1 I love seeing other people that actually know what they are talking about
It always depends on what you want to use it.
In general, I had the last 15 years AMD only, and was fine. I switched now to Nvidia because I invested some money and want to finally use 144hz on 4k with G-Sync.
(had always 60hz)
Question is:
Do you use it for gaming? or video/KI use
Do you want 4k? or just HD?
How much GPU RAM do you need (for 4k 16GB is already a limit)
I'm between a 4070 or a 7800xt
I don't know which one to buy (600€ vs 550€ )
The 7800XT wins in raw power in almost all games but... I only play cs practically and..
One of the determining factors would be the Reflex low latency of Nvidia that right now works better than the Anti-lag of AMD.
Ropz opinion: youtu.be/6fmES2NkTtg?t=546
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I have the rx 7800 xt and it’s a great card tbh
I can recommend it, but if you want full on rt you should probably go for the 4070 I guess
Even tho the 7800 xt isn’t soo bad in rt
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Some of the comments are hopelessly ignorant. I want to correct them, but it's probably a waste of time.
Anyone who really follows the latest desktop tech, and pays close attention to the tons of testing, can't help but roll their eyes at some of the nonsense people type on HLTV when it comes to tech stuff.
I've had a 7900XTX (ASRock Taichi) since February and it has been great on stock settings. It has also got much better over that time through driver updates. AMD has been releasing a lot of updates the past few months and it has improved a good bit.
I can overclock mine to over 3000Mhz on the core and 2700Mhz on the memory. Most all games I can get well over 100fps on ultra @1440p Ultra wide.
I get an average of 300fps in CS2 DM on max settings @1440p UW. It's probably more than that in 5v5 with less action and people.
Not sure what else to add other than it's been rock solid with no serious issues. I say serious because for months I did get some flickering in web browsers after I first bought it, but that has been fixed for a while.
For 550 there is no way you are going to find a better GPU, unless there is something wrong with it. That seems a bit cheap tbh, but maybe the person just wants to sell it.
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Men you should open up yt channel while being good at it
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I could, but I hate being recorded. I think cameras steal your soul and I want to keep mine. I noticed everyone who records themselves doesn't have soul, this can't be a coincidence.
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Flair!!
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What problems? there is no problems...
You rich folks really like to make a fuss over nothing, I run a low budget AMD setup (3600 cpu + 6600 gpu) and easily run the game at 144fps (while watching some TV shows on the second screen).
No idea how you can have such bad performances with such expensive setups.
I run a 6600. Only real thing I needed to do for CSGO was lock the clock speeds. While it runs like shit in CS2, I'm waiting on optimization patches and playing other games in the meantime. It was fine for the most part bar weird fps drops for a few months.
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Use DDU to remove the current drivers and download the latest
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I did that last week. Bar the shader cache rebuilding not much I can do
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They fixed that like a month ago, idk why it still happens to you
I won't go AMD with the next GPU. Though, I was quite lucky to buy Vega 64 (for the price of Vega 56) instead of a pricier GTX 1080 and can really express the experience as 'aged like a fine wine', I would like to go NVIDIA, because of better/quicker driver support from the game devs, better VR and less laggy, smoother experience with less bugs
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Game devs dont make driver support lol.... nvidia or amd make game support in their drivers.... and they both literally release drivers 2-3 times a month... they even release a game driver before a AA/A title release.
I bought a 6900 XT and have had 0 issues after about half a year of use, definitely better than the nvidia one I was using before with driver crashes
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Because ur not an idiot, majority dont know shit about pcs and love to blame the easiest victim... the same ppl wud never make a topic crying about nvidia even when they crash left and right.
Nvidia fans are the worst, they eat everything raw and absolutly blind to everything, just look how ppl think frame gen is amazing... its not its horrible but sure it beats laggy screen but in return u get even worse laggy mouse movement but atleast the screen is smoothed out, but the thing is it gets abused by devs to not optimize games because we can just enable this crappy frame gen feature to save us.
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amd giving you 5 minutes to think about if you REALLY want to play overwatch 2 or if you are just clinging onto the sweat memorys of first 5 seasons of overwatch 1
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You must be some kind of moron to think its the graphic cards fault or the driver... if it was an actual thing everyone wud get it and not just you.
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Just search nvidia overwatch fps stutters.... lots of ppl have this issue...
Whats ur point?? both sides have issues but its not a general issue.
And i googled whatever u said and i dont get anything close to what u mentioned.
Time for you to buy intel gpu bcus nvidia have issues, amd have issues... and so will intel so i guess ur out of luck, no gaming for you.
5800X + 6700XT = 0 complaints my friend, just go.
Its like this....
Fanboy of intel or nvidia will simp over this brand and if they have issues which they will at one point it doesnt get counted at all.... bcus its not a "real" problem to them...
If they try AMD and get the exact same problem... OMG FKING AMD THEY SO BAD...
The thing is majority of these losers have never tried AMD yet they scream they bad without experiencing it themself... they always seen or heard it from somewhere... or they tried AMD 15 years ago or sitting with their 8 year old amd gpu that doesnt even use adrenaline drivers but the old ones.
Then we have the insane amount of absolutly cluelessness of these ppl who actually dont know anything about pcs.... they love to play around with the windows register and other things and when they break something or it suddently stop working nicely the next week its always OMG crappy AMD.... or them downloading 5000 shitty apps in the background or free ram programs...
PS i had 6900 xt never did i have any issues because i know wtf im doing with pcs, and my 4090 i have no issues with either... nor do i have issues with my 1700x, 3800x, 5800x, 7800x nor my intel cpus in the past, other than the usual issues that you can run into from software issues but it happens for ALL brands.
Nvidia fanboys rly gotta go read the nvidia driver changelogs and see all the bugs they fix everytime before they come and say the drivers are the best and just works.
500 price is kinda low dont get scammed mens
It all depends on your use cases and local market prices.
If you don't care about RT and upscaling technology, then an AMD gpu will be more than fine for 1080p/1440p gaming. Any more serious stuff like video editing pushes nvidia to be a better choice even with higher prices (encoder is much better)
As for CPU, I personally prefer AMD any day of the week, price/performance is just great all across the board, and their top CPUs like the 7800x3d is generally unmatched. You will see a lot of people saying AMD cpus are hotter than intel, but that is straight up BS. AMD cpus are far more efficient energy-wise, and you run on a higher chance of termal throttle with intel unless you have a excellent cooling system.
TL;DR:
Overall GPU = Nvidia
Simple use-case GPU = AMD
(Intel not mentioned since still relatively new, I generally run on linux and intel support rn sucks big time)
Overall CPU = AMD. Consider intel if prices are good for their upper line though, but be aware of energy consumption and thereby thermal
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This is the PC you purchase after being in contact with grass for extended periods. Sensible, yet a high-performance solution
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I've always liked intel and nvidia better... I'd assume its personal preference, but in my life i've never had AMD gpu or cpu, so I can't say for sure which one is better, but following people's opinion and performance statistics in general, I'd assume intel and nvidia are a bit better... for gaming especially.
Amd has really great gpu’s that even beat nvidia in most cases. The only thing that is a bit disappointing is their watt usage. If you really care about watt usage, you should get nvidia. If not, buy amd because it has better performance for the money (except with that dlss bs, but nobody needs that). You can also undervolt the amd card to save some watt usage and improve it.
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