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Steelseries Sensei RAW or Deathadder 2013?
World ZUpjixx 
So I've been looking for a mouse since my DA 3.5g is deaded. Which one do you guys prefer? Help pls. Sensei RAW or Deathadder 2013?
2013-02-19 10:24
sensai ..
2013-02-19 10:32
2013-02-19 10:44
No, I don't want kinzu.. only DA2013 or Sensei RAW
2013-02-19 10:47
Razer mouse don't last more than 2 years, thats their model of generating income.. as DA is awesome.. but wont last.. u keep buying again and again.. just like I bought 3 DA's to realise that Razer is fucking with me... started using Zebronics ever since \m/ good enough for csgo lol.
2013-07-27 04:33
Australia TotalEclipse 
Two years is a long time for a mouse, and my old deathadder lasted much longer than my Sensei.
2013-07-27 05:56
oh really 2 years ? i used my sensei for 3 months then i broke completely lol you'r lucky man be grateful
2013-07-27 06:05
bullshit, my DA is still working after 4 years of everyday play
2013-07-27 10:37
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United Kingdom vL- 
2013-02-19 11:27
Denmark rove` 
buy both and then send me the one you dont use :) nah but da is said to have the best sensor on the market and nice comfort if you like to palm grip your mouse
2013-02-19 11:35
Whose ass you ripped that argument out of .__.'???
2013-02-19 12:58
those mice freaks at The "experts" like that guy skylit seems to know just about everything there is to know about mice.
2013-02-19 13:03
got some links for me babes? :3
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2013-07-27 09:08
if u dont have a wierd hand like me, go for the sensei
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Poland Wand 
Da from my own experience ;)
2013-02-19 12:06
from mine too :)
2013-02-19 12:14
Is it possible to put the deathadder to 400DPI?
2013-02-19 16:52
Poland Wand 
Yep, the limit is 100DPI.
2013-02-19 17:01
Okay thanks a lot, I am using the steelseries Xai at the moment, but my mouse2 button doenst work sometimes. I am thinking to buy a deathadder or a steelseries kana, what do you think? And does the Deathadder move well on the steelseries qck+ mousepad?
2013-02-19 17:32
Poland Wand 
I'm using DA and QCK mousepad, you can feel the chemistry between those two :)
2013-02-19 20:01
Okay thanks a lot, I am using the steelseries Xai at the moment, but my mouse2 button doenst work sometimes. I am thinking to buy a deathadder or a steelseries kana, what do you think? And does the Deathadder move well on the steelseries qck+ mousepad?
2013-02-19 17:31
Of course dooooode! I'm using it with Goliathus [control] and it's very smoooth.
2013-02-19 17:40
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2013-02-19 12:16
Looks like I'll be getting Deathadder 2013 then! Thanks boys! ;D
2013-02-19 12:23
2013-02-19 12:38
Just traded my sensei RAW and sensei original for a DA 2013 very nice upgrade :) Using it on a QCK+ limited edition
2013-02-19 12:43
I bought DA 2013 just a few days ago and I'm fucking awed by it. This is seriously the most comfortable mouse I've ever held in my hand. And I've had mx518, old DA 1800 dpi, Xai, Abyssus, Sensei... DA 2013 is the best in ANY department. Its only flow is that it has no onboard memory (for more than one settings profile). Functionally its a fucking work of art.
2013-02-19 12:44
what is the difference between DA and Da'13? Only the laser??
2013-02-19 12:47
DA2013 has rubberized grips on both sides Also the cover material is different, more rough. Scroll wheel is much better. And it is optical, not laser :) Grips are the most epic win. Edit : ah, yes, it is also a few mm higher and 7 gramms lighter then DA 3500 dpi Black Edition :D
2013-02-19 12:53
I'd rather the DA. Zowie are nice though. but why not an intelli 3.0?
2013-02-19 12:59
3.0 specs are too old for 2013 don't you think so?
2013-02-19 13:15
It's best mouse I've had in my hands. Too bad they don't sell those bastards in Finland anymore and I cba to buy one abroad. Sooo seems like I have to deal with the Zowie.
2013-02-19 13:55
absolutely, Zowie is the next best thing i think.
2013-02-19 15:12
No no... if it works, why change it. I've had mine for years but tried so many other mice inbetween inc DA and a few steelseries. i still go back to the intelli 3.0 though, it's just the best. most unsponsored pro gamers are still using it to this very day.
2013-02-19 15:14
I don't have intelli 3.0 and they don't sell it here so.. But the mouse is the best tho.
2013-02-19 16:05
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2013-02-19 15:47
both are overprized. if you want sensei, buy sensei raw because buying the original sensei is stupid imo
2013-02-19 16:12
steelseries > razer
2013-02-19 17:14
I would get the Razer DA.
2013-02-19 17:53
none, zowie eVo ec1.
2013-02-19 17:57
2013-02-19 20:21
Can you tell me guys why is the deathadder2013 is better than the sensei [RAW] rubberized version ?
2013-03-02 12:48
Well that question is pretty exciting rofl. (no sarcasm)
2013-03-02 12:57
personal preference... sensei > da (although I had the DA for years, I wanted something else)
2013-03-02 12:51
and why is that ?
2013-03-02 12:53
Really curious about why should I necessarily prefer DA over Sensei...
2013-03-02 12:59
me too :) i am a cs player and i use palm grip which mouse do you think better guys the sensei raw rubberized or Th Deathadder 2013 and plZ tell me whyyyyyyyyyyyyy???????????
2013-03-02 13:01
DA for palm grip but i would suggest you EC-1 or EC-2
2013-03-02 13:03
zowie EC-1/2 or AM rest are just useless toys
2013-03-02 13:02
f0rest | 
Russia goodjob 
both shit
2013-03-02 13:03
2013-03-02 13:04
and which one has the better performance
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gob b | 
Iceland shine4t 
Have the Sensei and I love it tbh. went glossy and it also looks fucking sleek. But mind you I'm a Steelseries cunt, have all steelseries peripherals. Mouse, Pad, Keyboard and Headphones
2013-03-02 13:39
Does the Razer deathadder 2013 mouse have positive or negative acceleration ????
2013-03-02 17:07
I feel like everyone who owns the sensei claim that it is their favorite mouse.
2013-03-02 18:36
someone who can tell me how long the mouse DA?
2013-07-27 01:14
is deaded a hltv term? and rip in peace as well? lolol
2013-07-27 02:02
Germany VxO4 
yeah pretty common no sense statements here on hltv :D
2013-08-26 03:37
You can't even really compare the two. DA is amazing. Never messes up, perfect accuracy. The Sensei will screw up if you move it fast enough and it also has a silly mouse accel that you can't remove. It also doesn't move in a perfectly straight line. I had the sensei, sensei raw (i bought the raw thinking that my sensei might have been defected), and am currectly using the DA 2013. Its by far the best performing mouse ever made. DA 2013 10-10 Sensei/Raw 7/10
2013-07-27 02:55
I have tried both and the DA is better at most things. But I still like the Sensei Raw more as it's lighter, and you seem to have a better grip of it when lifting it.
2013-07-27 03:11
dont ever buy steelseries.
2013-07-27 03:13
Georgia rowG 
2013-07-27 03:40
The old DA has mushy buttons that don't click right if your fingers drape a bit over the edge of the buttons. And the way it fits in your hand your fingers will, most likely, do this. They may have changed the shape a bit though idk.
2013-07-27 03:44
DA 13
2013-07-27 03:58
GTR uses xai, Markeloff used xai for a long time (dunno if he still uses it, Kana mostly i think). Some pros have used or still use xai which is just an older version of the sensei. If you can't hit your target with it it's you, not the mouse. Kana is a cheaper, optical version with great sensor (although very mild prediction exists) that a lot of the pros use. All you fanboys need to realize it's the player and not the mouse, whatever feels the most comfortable and natural to hold is the best as long as it doesn't have major flaws (pixel skipping, jittering etc). There are pros using something like Kinzus which are low end cheap mice and they still pwn. If you really want to get down to it pretty much every team that uses razer gear sucks and no player using razer gear has ever accomplished anything in an FPS game :D
2013-07-27 04:14
"If you really want to get down to it pretty much every team that uses razer gear sucks and no player using razer gear has ever accomplished anything in an FPS game :D" was that ironic ?
2013-07-27 04:32
That was aimed at the fanboys who believe DA is superior to any other mice.
2013-07-27 04:45
not any other, but you can't deny that it's pretty good :)
2013-07-27 04:48
It's pretty good yeah, but it's very bulky and heavy so it doesn't matter how good a sensor it has if that's a problem like it is for me, it just feels very uncomfortable and unnatural to do fast movements with it, especially lifting it up doing a couple fast swipes.
2013-07-27 06:20
i don't think verygames sucks,ScreaM uses DA'13 and he has sickest aim
2013-07-27 06:37
#72 it was just a jab at blind fanboys
2013-07-27 06:50
2013-07-27 04:30
Well.. I ve used Deathadder for like 6-7 years now? I dono.. I bought a total of 3 DAs.. trust me it wont last more than 2 years..
2013-07-27 04:32
My lasts for about 5 years now. First 3G broke and I got 3.5G as replacement, works to this day.
2013-08-25 17:56
2013-08-26 03:03
Microsoft intelli 1.1 :D BEEEAST
2013-07-27 04:51
Finland nsis 
DA, don't buy mice from SS.
2013-07-27 05:04
Australia TotalEclipse 
DA, my Sensei died after about 4 months of using it. Deathadder 2013 has out lasted that now and it's a much better mouse imo.
2013-07-27 05:58
The steelseries mice are good quality, what are you guys talking about? I have used SS products without any issues for extended periods of time under heavy use. I had my sensei from release to until a couple weeks ago when i got myself a RAW rubberized version, only because of the rubber coating, the sensei still works fine. None of my friends have had any issues either If anything after you do some googling it's pretty obvious razer has the worse quality, the scrolls in their mice are very notorious for breaking down after a couple months even if you have barely used them. I had a DA for a couple months and used the scroll maybe an hour or two a day for internet browsing and it broke down. Every brand has bad batches and the mice are mechanical after all, everything mechanical can randomly break down without much of a reason at all. Razer just seems to have more of these problems, mainly with scroll wheels.
2013-07-27 06:27
I used a DA, not the 2013 one though, now got the Sensei Raw. You will not regret getting the raw. get the rubber finish though, not the glossy :D
2013-07-27 08:24
2 years lifetime for a mouse? LOL my IE 3.0 is still fine, i bought it 7 years ago my mx518 is also working, i bought it 8 years ago. The only mouse that died is razer pro 1.6, it was something about cord i dont remember, it was a few years ago. Look at durability of logitech and microsoft - this is how mice should be made, not that crap what are you talking about here.
2013-07-27 09:51
and god used inteli :)
2013-07-27 14:16
i like RAW, but i prefer ergonomic mouses like DA, MX518 or ZOWIE EC's
2013-07-27 14:21
World Moya 
DeathAdder 2013
2013-08-26 03:43
3.0 cheaper and better.
2013-08-26 04:17
DA or g400s
2013-08-26 04:18
Different people, different preferences. I'm using Steelseries mouse and earphone & using Razer keyboard and mousepad. A fan of both on different peripherals.
2013-08-26 04:50
It's all preference dude, which feels better and more comfortable in your hand. I've owned both the death adder and sensei raw. I like both but I'm currently using a sensei raw
2013-08-26 04:58
Europe DrexxEnt 
2013-08-26 05:35
Slovakia crushyou 
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