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Top 10 Misconception about Islam
Malaysia Sunot11 
All credits to Islamgate MISCONCEPTION #1: Muslims are violent terrorists and/or extremists. Perhaps currently, this would be the biggest misconception about Islam. Inappropriate media hype and bad journalism, based on subjective stereotypes, are the root cause. When a gunman attacks a mosque in the name of Judaism, a Catholic IRA guerrilla sets off a bomb in an urban area, or Serbian Orthodox militiamen rape and kill innocent Muslim civilians, one must be careful not to use these random acts of violence to stereotype an entire belief system. The media often suggest the acts are a result of the perpetrators religious beliefs; however, this is seldom true. It has become commonplace for media outlets to pair the description of an Islamic or Muslim fundamentalist with violent acts, creating a false perception that all Muslims or followers of the Islamic faith are violent. Often dictators and politicians will use the name of Islam for their own perverse purposes. It is important for readers and those who consume media reports to consider the information source and recognize that Islamic teachings promote peace, contrary to what many media reports may imply. Islam literally means ‘submission to God’ and, ironically, given the subjective, stereotypical media hype, is derived from a root word meaning ‘peace’. While it is true that to the ignorant Islamic teachings may seem exotic or extreme to those unfamiliar with its basic tenets who are rooted in the modern world; it does, in fact, promote peace and tolerance. In contrast with Islam, Christianity and Judaism generally do not have the same prominence in the day-to-day activities of those living in the West. Islam is embraced as a ‘way of life’ for Muslims and there is no division between the secular and the sacred in their lives. Similar to Christianity, Islam permits fighting in self-defense, in defense of religion, or for those who have been forcibly expelled from their homes. That said, it prescribes strict rules of combat, which prohibits the harming of civilians and destruction of crops, property, trees and livestock. Islam does not permit the killing of innocent people. The Quran says: “Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors.” (Quran 2:190) “If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that hears and knows all things.” (Quran 8:61) War, therefore, is regarded as a last resort, and is subject to rigorous conditions laid down by the sacred law. The term ‘jihad’ literally means ‘struggle’. Muslims believe that there are two kinds of jihad. External combat and the inner struggle of the soul, which everyone wages against egotistic desires as they seek inner peace. In terms of war ethics, there is historical evidence that suggests treated those they defeated humanely. In La Civilization Arabe, French historian and sociologist Gustav Le Bon affirmed that the world had never known a conqueror more merciful than Muslims. MISCONCEPTION #2: Islam oppresses women. Many of these countries do not follow Shari’ah (Islamic law) and have introduced their own cultural interpretation of gender equity. Islam, on the other hand, acknowledges that men and women have distinct roles and equity between the two is laid down in the Quran and through the actions of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Islam regards a woman, whether single or married, as an individual in her own right, with the right to own and dispose of her property and earnings. A Muslim groom offers a marriage gift to his bride for her own personal use and she keeps her original family name rather than taking her husband’s. Both men and women are expected to dress in a modest and dignified manner. The Messenger of God (peace be upon him) said: “The most perfect in faith amongst believers is he who is best in manner and kindest to his wife.” (Prophet Hadith) Violence of any kind towards women is not tolerated in Islam, and Muslims are forbidden to force a woman to do something against her will. In Islam, marriage is viewed as a legal agreement that enables either partner to define conditions. Marriage customs vary widely from country to country. Divorce is not common, although it is acceptable as a last resort. According to Islam, a Muslim girl cannot be forced to marry against her will; however, her parents may suggest young men they deem suitable as suitors. MISCONCEPTION #3: Muslims worship a different God. Allah is the Arabic word for God. Allah, for Muslims, is the greatest and most inclusive of the Names of God, it is an Arabic word of rich meaning, denoting the one and only God and ascribing no partners to Him. It is exactly the same word which the Jews, in Hebrew, use for God (eloh) and the word which Jesus Christ used in Aramaic when he prayed to God. In fact, God has an identical name in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam; Allah is the same God worshiped by Muslims, Christians and Jews. Muslims believe that Allah’s sovereignty is to be acknowledged in worship and in the pledge to obey His teaching and Commandments, which were conveyed through His messengers and the prophets sent at various times, and in many places, throughout history. However, it should be noted that in Islam God is the One and Only. He, the Exalted, does not get tired, does not have a son (i.e. Jesus) or associates, nor does He have human-like attributions as found in other faiths. MISCONCEPTION #4: Islam was spread by the sword and intolerant of other faiths. Many textbooks depict an image of an Arab horseman, carrying a sword in one hand and the Quran in the other, conquering and forcibly converting followers. However, this is not an accurate portrayal of history since it is well-documented that Islam has always respected the right to freedom of religion. The Quran says: “God forbids you not, with regards to those who fight you not for [your] faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them; for God loves those who are just. (60:8) Freedom of religion is laid down in the Quran: “There is no compulsion (or coercion) in the religion (Islam). The right direction is distinctly clear from error”. (2:256) Christian missionary, T.W. Arnold claimed the spread of Islam was unstoppable: “Of any organized attempt to force the acceptance of Islam on the non-Muslim population, or of any systematic persecution intended to stamp out the Christian religion, we hear nothing. Had the caliphs (Islamic rulers of early days) chosen to adopt either course of action, they might have swept away Christianity as easily as Ferdinand and Isabella drove Islam out of Spain, or Louis XIV made Protestantism …” Islamic law also permits non-Muslim minorities to set up their own courts, which implement family laws designed by the minorities themselves. The life and property of all citizens in an Islamic state are considered sacred whether the person is Muslim or not. Racism is not a part of Islam, the Quran speaks only of human equality and how all peoples are equal in the sight of God. “O mankind! We created you from a single soul, male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that you may come to know one another. Truly, the most honored of you in God’s sight is the greatest of you in Piety. God is All-Knowing, All- Aware. (49:13) MISCONCEPTION #5: All Muslims are Arabs The world’s Muslim population is estimated to be roughly 1.5 billion. That means, one out of three or four people in the world is Muslim. There are a vast range of races, nationalities, and cultures around the globe from the Philippines to Nigeria that are united by the Islamic faith. Only about 13 per cent of the world’s Muslims live in the Arab world, with Indonesia serving as home to the world’s largest Muslim community. Most Muslims live east of Pakistan, 30 per cent live in the Indian subcontinent, 20 per cent in Sub-Saharan Africa, 17 per cent in Southeast Asia, 13 per cent in the Arab world and 10 per cent in Russia ,CIS countries and China. Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan make up 10 per cent of the non-Arab Middle East. Although there are Muslim minorities in almost every area, including Latin America and Australia, they are most numerous in Russia and its newly independent states, India and central Africa. There are about 6 million Muslims in the United States. In the next article we will discuss five more misconception which are widely spread among people especially in the west such as the concept of polygamy, until then I welcome your questions or comments” MISCONCEPTION #6: The Nation of Islam is a Muslim group Islam and the “Nation of Islam” (NOI) are separate and distinct concepts. The NOI is a political organization and its members are not limited to a single faith. Many Muslims believe this group is one of many cult-like organizations, using the name of Islam for its own gain. While they may share the same language and jargon, they are radically different concepts. Many would suggest that the Nation of Islam is a misnomer and it would be more accurate to refer to this belief system as Farrakhanism, after the name of its propagator, Louis Farrakhan. Any serious student of Islam has a duty to investigate and find the true Islam. Muslims believe there are only two authentic sources that bind Muslims – the Holy Quran and the Prophet’s Hadith. Teachings that contradict, or are at variance with the direct understanding of fundamental beliefs and practices of Islam based on the Quran and authentic Hadith are those of pseudo-Islamic cults. Baha’ism, which is an off-shoot of Islam, does not claim to be Islam, nor do its followers consider themselves Muslims. MISCONCEPTION #7: All Muslim men marry four wives. The religion of Islam was revealed to different societies at different times and accommodates a wide range of social practices. It acknowledges that some circumstances may warrant the taking of more than one wife but the right is not absolute; according to the Quran, it is acceptable on the condition that the husband is scrupulously fair in the treatment of his wives. No woman can be forced into this kind of marriage if they do not wish it, and they also have the right to exclude it in their marriage contract. Polygamy, while permitted, is neither mandatory, nor encouraged. Images of sheikhs with harems are not consistent with Islam: a man is allowed, at most, four wives and only if he can fulfill the stringent conditions of treating each fairly and providing each with separate housing etc. Permission to practice polygamy is not associated with mere satisfaction of passion. Rather, it is associated with compassion toward widows and orphans. Historically, the Quran limited and put conditions on the practice of polygamy among Arabs and other nations at a time when it was not uncommon for men to have ten or more wives which they considered their “property”. It is both honest and accurate to say that Islam regulated and limited this practice, and made it more humane by instituting equal rights and status for all wives. Taken as a whole, the Qur’anic decrees discourage polygamy unless a necessity for its practice exists. In fact, while a small percentage of Muslims do practice polygamy, generally Islam promotes monogamy. Islam’s acceptance of polygamy is consistent with Islam’s realistic view of the nature of man and woman and of various social needs, problems and cultural variations. Islam is inherently flexible in marital matters; it is also frank and straightforward in dealing with practical problems. Rather than requiring hypocritical and superficial compliance, Islam delves deeper into the problems of individuals and societies, and offers legitimate, sound solutions which can be more beneficial than ignoring the realities that demand such flexibility. A second wife that is legally married and treated kindly is better off than a mistress without any legal rights. MISCONCEPTION #8: Muslims are a barbaric, backward people. The relative simplicity of Islamic doctrine is partially responsible for its rapid and peaceful spread. Islam calls for faith in only one God worthy of worship. It also repeatedly instructs man to use his powers of intelligence and observation. Within a few years, great civilizations and universities were flourishing, for according to the Prophet (pbuh), ‘Seeking knowledge is an obligation for every Muslim man and woman’. (The prophet Hadith) The synthesis of Eastern and Western ideas and of new thoughts with old, generated significant advances in medicine, mathematics, physics, astronomy, geography, architecture, art, literature and history. Many crucial systems, including algebra, Arabic numerals and the concept of the zero (vital to the advancement of mathematics), were transmitted to medieval Europe from Islam. The development of sophisticated navigational instruments, which enabled European voyages of discovery including the astrolabe, the quadrant and good navigational maps, can also be attributed to Islamic scholars. MISCONCEPTION #9: Muhammad was the founder of Islam and Muslims worship him. He used to meditate from time to time in the Cave of Hira near Mecca. At the age of 40, while engaged in a meditative retreat, Muhammad (pbuh) received his first revelation from God, through the Angel Gabriel. The revelations he received, which continued for 23 years, are known as the Quran. As soon as he began reciting Gabriel’s words – preaching the truths that God had revealed to him – he and his small group of followers were bitterly persecuted. The persecution grew so fierce that in the year 622 God commanded them to emigrate. This event, the Hijra ‘migration’, during which they left Mecca for the city of Medina, marks the beginning of the Muslim calendar. After several years, the Prophet and his followers were able to return to Mecca, where they forgave their enemies and established Islam definitively. Before the Prophet died, at the age of 63, the greater part of Arabia was Muslim, and within a century of his death Islam had spread to Spain in the West and as far East as China. He died with less than five small possessions to his name. While Muhammad (pbuh) was chosen to deliver the message, he is not considered the “founder” of Islam, since Muslims consider Islam to be the same divine guidance sent to all peoples before. Muslims believe that God provided all the prophets, including Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and others were provided divine guidance to lead their peoples. Every prophet was sent to his own people, but Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to all of mankind. Muslims believe Muhammad is the last and final messenger sent to deliver the message of Islam and they revere and honor him (pbuh) for all he went through and his dedication, but they do not worship him. “O Prophet, verily we have sent you as a witness and a bearer of glad tidings and a Warner and as one who invites unto God by His leave and as an illuminating lamp. “(33:45-6) MISCONCEPTION #10: Muslims don’t believe in Jesus or any other prophets. The Quran describes the Annunciation as follows: “Behold!” the Angel said, “God has chosen you, and purified you, and chosen you above the women of all nations. O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him whose name shall be the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honored in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near to God. He shall speak to the people from his cradle and in elderliness, and shall be of the righteous.” She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?” He said: “Even so; God creates what He will. When He decrees a thing, He says to it, “Be!” and it is” (Quran 3:42-47) Jesus (u) was born miraculously through the same power, which had brought Adam (u) into being without a father: “Truly, the likeness of Jesus with God is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, and then said to him, ‘Be!’ and he was.” (3:59) During his prophetic mission Jesus (u) performed many miracles. The Quran tells us that he said: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breath into it and it becomes a bird by God’s leave. And I heal the blind, and the lepers, and I raise the dead by God’s leave.” (3:49) Neither Muhammad (pbuh) not Jesus (u) came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in One God brought by earlier prophets, but to confirm and renew it. In the Quran Jesus (u) is reported as saying that he came: “To attest the law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden you; I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so fear God and obey Me. (3:50) The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: “Whoever believes there is no god but Allah, alone without partner, that Muhammad (pbuh) is His messenger, that Jesus is the servant and messenger of God, His word breathed into Mary and a spirit emanating from Him, and that Paradise and Hell are true, shall be received by God into Heaven.” (Hadith related by Bukhari).
2013-04-23 17:02
Right.. :p
2013-04-23 17:04
do this post explain how to blow yourself in train or in public places?
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France m0lk0 
Stop your propaganda? Live your life, the problems with muslims is the stupid way they claim "IM A MUSLIM IM A MUSLIM, I AM PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM, I ASSUME IM A MUSLIM, MUSLIMS ARE THE BESTS". Just be an individual with your own thoughts and be a good person first.
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2013-04-23 18:21
It's not a propaganda imo, in this thread he isn't forcing you to believe something you don't want to believe in, he is just explaining that what you can hear about Islam, is sometimes wrong, that's it, stereotypes are just so annoying and I can understand why he's doing this.
2013-04-23 18:29
This isn't propaganda. He isn't pushing his beliefs on anybody. Learn the definition of the word.
2013-04-24 14:59
admins close this before it turns into a shitstorm
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2013-04-23 17:15
this is off topic.
2013-04-23 18:06
Jesus Christ true god not fake like allah
2013-04-23 17:09
i guess you did a hi5 with him before he died
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Romania tr$ 
Thank you for blessing this thread with your ultimate idiocy.
2013-04-23 18:01
There is enough idiots on this thread, please don't start anything wrong.
2013-04-23 18:30
Jesus Christ wasnt a god lol :D he was a prophet and the gods son...I see u know everything about your religion :D Everyone believes in something different... If the religion gives someone a goal..something to live for, than let them their faith. p.s. I also hate that anti muslim campaign on the media..its just sad.. The Nato killed 10000x more people then the muslim "terrorist" but in the news they are allways the "nice" guys. :(
2013-04-23 22:48
WRONG !!!!!!!
2013-04-24 00:32
Nope... For christians god is: God, Jesus, The holy spirit and everything
2013-04-24 13:57
"and everything" Well played..
2013-04-24 21:16
Dno why I added that Also I thought he was talking about christianity which he doesn't seem to be... fail by me
2013-04-24 22:40
in your bible Jesus say : only god can judge me , and u call him god... !!! wtf kid , wake up .
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2013-04-24 08:34
really ?? watch till end
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2013-04-24 12:34
jesus christ is not a God
2013-04-24 18:08
MISCONCEPTION #11: God or Allah o whatever exists.
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Poland prejt 
I live for about 6-7 years in UK and i can tell you one thing, all muslims have double face. They may be your best friend but when they come to choice of you or their religion there is simple answer here. You see the problem with them is that in any normal EU country when u have religous christian fanatics you can see christian people standing up and saying "This is wrong". You may say ah fanatics are less than 1% but why do they let them speak? Why there is no one to say thats wrong! Lets be honest religious people are the ones who likes when someone give them answers and they will just follow.
2013-04-23 17:13
You lived in UK for 6-7 years and all you can talk is that shit english? I can't understand what shit are you talking about but i think you tried to call all mulsims hypocrites (you failed btw) and that idea simply shows how stupid you are.
2013-04-24 12:37
They are hypocrites.
2013-04-24 14:09
You're hypocrite.
2013-04-24 18:18
France m0lk0 
Hopefully catholics, jews and others don't create those kind of shitty topics... GeT_Brain
2013-04-23 17:14
Jews won't waste their time on this, time is money!!! :D
2013-04-24 13:57
bet you liked that one bullet fiveseven prefire inradio :)
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2013-04-28 12:23
it's a shame that 99% of the muslims ruin their reputation for the rest... all kidding aside, i had a muslim girlfriend once upon a time. nice person.
2013-04-23 17:19
My mouse only has 2 million clicks... what a waste of one :(
2013-04-23 17:20
3 clicks actually :( 1 to open the thread 1 to post your comment 1 to get out of here...
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France Jiga 
The problem is that Muslims don't read the Quran, like most Christians don't read the Bible. The main difference is that Christians are not led to believe false things in order to kill and hate in the name of God. When in fact, Islam is a religion of peace.
2013-04-23 17:20
Have you ever heard of The Crusades?
2013-04-23 17:31
LOL I just love when people answers this!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know at that time people were illiterate, used candles for light, poop behind bushes, never washed themselves? N1 comparison dude you are a smart guy!
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2013-04-23 17:37
And? How can you compare this with the action of advised and warned people who have access to the knowledge of 800 years of history?
2013-04-23 18:02
Before I reply, can please you do us both a favour and shape what you're trying to say into an argument?
2013-04-23 18:10
So think that the christians never killed in the name of god? The bible was never used to generate hate? What about KKK? in this klub was mainly white christians..what about the homosexuals? The vatican loves them because its in the bible sure...
2013-04-23 22:55
and he's absolutely right.. Christians have killed more in the name of their religion than any other.
2013-04-23 17:45
Finland teco 
I'm not a christian nor a muslim, but your argument is false.
2013-04-23 19:31
India N3E 
I am a Muslim Guy... But... How is this post related to Counterstrike??
2013-04-23 17:20
How is this post related to Counterstrike?? No need to claim you are a muslim.
2013-04-23 17:26
He's just saying this to prove that even some muslims don't care about being the victim of stereotypes.
2013-04-23 18:32
Romania tr$ 
"Off Topic", and no need to use bold.
2013-04-23 18:02
World mm2 
people above ages 5 that believe in fairy tales make me laugh its cute
2013-04-23 17:20
Religion is misinterpreted all the time.
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Tunisia edgg 
im gonna ask one simple question how the fuck is the universe created? nothing was proved till today, there was only theories, just theories
2013-04-23 19:12
rofl What about God then? Prove him. Thats ridiculous isnt it? There should be nothing scary about admitting that we dont know everything. There will probably be a time when mankind learns how the universe came to be or how it really works (note how it was not necessarily created) but that day it wont be because of christian god or a muslim god but because of science. We need to leave our silly superstitions behind us, there is nothing in islam or any other religion which would somehow give answers to questions like that.
2013-04-23 20:06
lol what a fucking stupid comment
2013-04-23 21:25
You tell them, Jesus!!! Best regards to your dad.
2013-04-24 21:50
You're broken or what?
2013-04-23 21:36
So because we don't have a solid evidence on how the universe was created so we should ditch science and believe in your imaginary friend? Well fucking done with your logic.
2013-04-23 23:22
why does it have to start with flaming?
2013-04-28 08:21
God created it with rocks trolololo
2013-04-24 08:37
And of course your fucking book has a true answer
2013-04-24 16:31
United Kingdom wap 
Well isn't your God just another theory then?
2013-04-28 02:03
MISCONCEPTION #11: Arguing who has better imaginary friend
2013-04-23 17:34
I am a muslim and may i ask you why would u post this to people who don't read or listen to any of the above its just useless let everyone do whatever they want and believe whatever they want to believe
2013-04-23 17:36
It is completely impossible to change someone's view on something over an internet discussion forum.
2013-04-23 17:38
yea completely that's why i ask him why is he trying to.
2013-04-23 17:44
may allah buff ur aim @ dust2
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2013-04-23 18:32
there is no god or allah or whatever hahha, deal with it
2013-04-23 17:43
What about neo ? ._.
2013-04-24 02:26
neo is the one and only
2013-04-24 14:49
Why would you have a religion. It's so outdated.
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2013-04-23 19:43
So true. Religion for retarded guys. And what is incredible? Lot of them are scientists...
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2013-04-24 14:41
It's easy to talk shit when it's about religion ... especially when these bunch of retards doesn't even know what religion means for others ... Thnx anyway for this thread but imo many clueless guys will show themselves just like smart one !!
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2013-04-23 18:06
Bravooooo , we have a winner
2013-04-23 18:07
It's okay man I do not care about them, because these people existed way back when Prophet Idris pbuh and Prophet Nuh pbuh started preaching Islam :)
2013-04-23 18:52
(y) looool ur right ;p peace brother
2013-04-23 19:00
Everything you wrote under : MISCONCEPTION #2: is bullshit , i went to a few countries in the middle east , I saw how they did with women , I saw a woman been beaten because she didnt listen. You can see you never went to the countries where islam is the main religion
2013-04-23 20:35
i find it rather funny how they act like monkeys when they see women from europe :-D
2013-04-23 20:46
Not our fault if we're not used to seeing pretty women...
2013-04-23 21:23
To be fair you don't see women at ALL in Hijab.
2013-04-23 23:20
I see more girls without hijab than ones with hijab. I live in morocco, not that strict.
2013-04-24 00:51
So the less they follow the religion the better it is?
2013-04-24 10:27
For horny guys like me huehuehuehue
2013-04-24 14:49
Why do idiots always believe that God has free will? It's such an out-of-date idea.
2013-04-23 17:58
not a long read. i've had a close read. twice.
2013-04-23 17:59
hey, don't bring any kind of religion thing to this site, son. think before you write, before you speak. it could start a fight. be matured!
2013-04-23 18:02
Netherlands TJEm 
#1 Misconception is that people actually think that this is not another grown up fairy tale.
2013-04-23 18:04
2013-04-23 18:29
HLTV doesn't care about these posts. The general HLTV opinion: muslim = terrorist; it will not change. Don't even try.
2013-04-23 18:05
It is more like "muslims are ret**** who create fanatical topics to do their propaganda".
2013-04-23 18:09
Tunisia edgg 
let me correct it for you The general western world opinion : muslim = terrorist
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2013-04-23 18:07
it's an offtopic don't u see that ?
2013-04-23 18:08
nah, i didn't see it, mate. i'm sleepy, sorry
2013-04-23 18:26
: )
2013-04-23 18:50
look, shitstorm is starting to come.
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United States nytz 
posting shit like this on hltv is like asking to get trolled
2013-04-23 18:57
Or make the biggest shitstorm that this website has ever seen happen.
2013-04-23 21:39
Finland teco 
Didn't read. Islam is the worst thing on the earth this day. Jihadism (Al-Qaida, Taleban, etc) and Šaria (we are not living in the 7th century anymore) tells enough about this "religion".
2013-04-23 19:27
Poverty and the United States are the two worst things in the world today.
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Albania Heavon 
2013-04-24 16:28
sorry but i dont like my women repressed
2013-04-23 19:36
I didn't read but here are my thoughts on Islam: #1 Muslims are violent terrorists and/or extremists. #2 Islam oppresses women #3 Muslims worship a different God. #4 Islam was spread by the sword and intolerant of other faiths. #5 All Muslims are Arabs #6 The Nation of Islam is a Muslim group #7 All Muslim men marry four wives #8 Muslims are a barbaric, backward people. #9 Muhammad was the founder of Islam and Muslims worship him. #10 Muslims don’t believe in Jesus or any other prophets. Just my opinion
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2013-04-23 19:45
Here is the shit media made you eat. Grow a brain,people! Think with it.Dont let media get into your mind.Don't let it control you like this.
2013-04-24 12:44
Amin malouf !
2013-06-06 19:48
Not an opinion. Straight up facts! :)
2013-04-23 21:28
+1 on #96
2013-04-24 12:42
#1 violence and terrorists are everywhere (you can't deny this even in IRELAND) #2 not everywhere #3 all religions believes in 1 GOD that we call "muslims" ALLAH #4 Since Islam's birth and in the name of ALLAH : “Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors.” (Quran 2:190) #5 Don't know who told you that all muslims are arabs, that means you know shit about us #6 you're wrong we assist other religions #7 Yes we have the rights to marry 4 wives, IF you can give them all what they need as a wives, IF NOT you can't do it #8 living in castels means you're not barbaric ? #9 Muhammad is the latest beloved prophet, something that you can't understand #10 we respect other religions and we do respect their believes, and i can say that other ppl don't respect Islam (the proof is what you're saying about what we believe) #11 you're ignoring many things about us and you don't have solid arguments, you just bring words from what other ppl tell you and MEDIA too and you come here to act like a smart preacher That was my opinion
2013-04-24 17:31
I don't think you read this thread did you?
2013-04-24 17:37
i think the one who didn't read the thread is you since you mention it, and btw i know every word he said i just gave myself permition to answer you (i'll give you a good exemple : the fight between nothern and southern IRELAND was for a cause right ?!! so tell me one reason that let your ppl fight each other ?!!)
2013-04-24 17:41
Each of the things I posted were the 10 things from the original post. Successful troll is successful. Also, why have you not yet answered #200?
2013-04-24 17:48
i thought you've grown up to talk with you as a civilised european guy but you still have shit in your head ... when you find an answer for my question instead of walking away, let me know ... bye
2013-04-24 17:52
Typical religious person, dodges the questions which destroy your religion completely.
2013-04-24 18:26
Germany ayyy 
“Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors.” (Quran 2:190) reading this just shows me how retarded religion is, especially the islam
2013-04-23 19:37
do not insult my religion
2013-04-23 19:49
It's only because people have been killed or seriously maimed for insulting Religion since the Neolithic age that you're saying that. Thus it has become embedded into our Psyche that speaking out against Religion is taboo when it really isn't. It is much needed. If you can convince me Religion should not be open to criticism like your Fashion choices or your Political stances I will completely change my view on the issue. So until then.. FUCKyourRELIGION
2013-04-24 00:35
fuck islam
2013-04-24 02:20
fuck islam
2013-04-24 12:42
Question : if someone comes and burn your house kill your familly just because you are german, what will you do ? i'll give you time to think about your answer and do not answer me but answer your self :)
2013-04-24 17:35
I bet you're ATHEIST right !!
2013-04-24 17:43
Islam stronk
2013-04-23 20:21
Every name is listed except God. The one true God. Hail our one true lord.
2013-04-23 20:24
i think u missed the bottom of the picture,or ur just trolling...
2013-04-23 20:32
I think your catholic God loves underage boys
2013-04-23 20:32
and we love him!
2013-04-23 20:57
Stop preaching here, just cut this crap. Religion is ridiculous.
2013-04-23 20:35
+1 brainwashed and naive stupid people , thats all ;]
2013-04-23 21:02
+1 atheists are pretty naive
2013-04-24 12:43
2013-04-24 14:40
Atheists actually has found that all religions are good stories. I dont know why so many people believe in story of creating world.
2013-04-25 11:32
Don`t take everything I said so literally faggots. Sincerely God
2013-04-23 20:40
religions still suck:) and the fact that it seperates people in to groups Instead of all us being children of the earth
2013-04-23 20:58
Can't believe the responses from everyone on this forum... But being a video-games one I can't be shocked about it... :) I found your post very informative, I've taken an interest in your culture before but it's hard to find objective information about it this side of the world. I'm not a religious person, but from what I've gathered from Buddhism, christian, Jewish and Muslim religions.... If I were to stick to one it would defiantly be yours :p Thanks again for an interesting post in a forum where knowledge is undermined.
2013-04-23 21:24
I think it's good that you've learnt something. I was hoping for someone like you to read it because it truly benefits you, thank you for your time! :) I believe that we can live in peace(Jews, Muslims and Christians) like we did in Jerusalem for a few hundred years after saladin took over the state and because of that we were able to learn and respect from each other and make awesome scientific discoveries
2013-04-24 05:48
United Kingdom gsr- 
Thanks for the R.E Lesson, but there isn't no god in my eyes. Science > Religon. It's called the "god of the gaps" for a reason.
2013-04-23 21:38
Even scientists can't be 100% sure that god doesn't exist, we know how to determinate how things in life works, but so many things are still unknown.
2013-04-24 00:02
Scientists cant prove my shit doesn't transform into sex craved maniac who lurks the streets for victims when I've dropped one into the toilet. Still doesn't make it any less insane to believe. It's kind of like how you can't prove the Moon doesn't pop out of existence when your back is turned to it. Someone ALWAYS comes up with the point you have made, and it's a clear sign the person is unable or unwilling to think critically.
2013-04-24 00:18
"Still doesn't make it any less insane to believe" Did I say it is a reason to believe ?I think you missunderstood me, you thought I meant that, but I didn't at all. "Someone ALWAYS comes up with the point you have made, and it's a clear sign the person is unable or unwilling to think critically" Take it easy bro, I'm not the kinda person you think I am.
2013-04-24 00:22
Apologies, I thought you were using the fact Science can't prove nor disprove there is a God to reinforce what you were saying.
2013-04-24 00:22
Classic russell's teapot example. Don't try to turn the logic upside down.
2013-04-24 05:19
Read my posts below
2013-04-24 13:41
Islam, like any other culture is a piece of worthless shit, i still can't believe there are people dumb enough to believe and support religions and churches around the world. Don't understand me wrong, i have nothing against you, i'm just a very anti-religious guy.
2013-04-23 22:01
"i have nothing against you, i'm just a very anti-religious guy" You just contradicted yourself. And btw there are really smart people who believe in god aswell.
2013-04-24 00:03
there is no god ; there are plenty of explanations for that
2013-04-24 00:54
There aren't.
2013-04-24 13:39
Are you muslim?
2013-04-24 14:16
my family is.
2013-04-24 14:21
Doesn't matter about god, it matters about religion. And EVERY single religious scripture contradicts itself so many times it is quite funny.
2013-04-24 14:42
He isn't talking about religions.
2013-04-24 14:59
That's cool. But I was, which is why I started the sentence with " Doesn't matter about god". God may be real, but ALL religions are 100% bullshit. Fact.
2013-04-24 15:07
I won't enter in the debate, but assuming that religions are 100% bullshit seem a bit hard to believe
2013-04-24 15:17
lol. Hard to believe religions are bullshit. Easy to believe religious people/leaders can talk directly to god and that a certain type of building brings you closer to god. FUCK. LOGIC.
2013-04-24 15:32
100%, I didn't say everything is easy to believe.
2013-04-24 17:27
ur a hardcore muslim defending islam = no credibility...
2013-04-24 19:07
I'm not muslim, I'm just saying just because a religion has something hard to believe, doesn't make the whole thing wrong. In some holy books, there is a part of truth.
2013-04-24 23:06
How did i contradict myself ? I truly don't have nothing against OP, but i "hate" religion, because it's really stupid, like believing in Santa Claus or Easter bunny.
2013-04-24 14:39
Okay, I might didn't understand you :)
2013-04-24 14:41
That is just wrong from you, you shouldn't be anti-religious, even if it is a bunch of nonsense to you and me people can believe what they want. Only thing that should be done is separate church and state completely.
2013-04-24 14:57
Well i meant mostly for churches, i know that these are 2 different things, but most religious people are connected to the church, so it doesn't make that big of a difference.
2013-04-24 15:01
why shouldn't people be anti-religion? you might think that the growing muslim population in europe is alright, but some of us who want europe to continue developing like we have done for centuries (from slaves of fairly tales and monarchs to free and enlightened people) don't really see any reason not to speak against it. if you let islam flourish and develop in western societies, muslims will one of these days claim more and more rights in parallel with the growth of muslims living here. it's an obvious, perfectly logical outcome as we after all live in democratic societies. western countries more and more adapted to medieval islamic ways and ideas.. no thank you. this is not meant as an attack against muslims in specific by the way (I dislike any kind of religion potentially intervening with my existence). it just so happens to be muslims and their religion that's coming to europe in large numbers.
2013-04-24 19:01
What is the penalty for apostasy in Islam?
2013-04-23 23:16
Sourate 5, Verse 54 Interpret it as you want.
2013-04-24 00:11 That is how the majority interprets it. The entire Quran is so vague and shallow that it is based on interpretations. It's funny how for every clause, the excuse it 'interpretation'.
2013-04-24 10:35
I just said interpret it as you want. The verse I told you about, talks about apostasy, what did you conclude ? Don't think I try to make you believe something, why do you think I'm like that ?Can't we just have a normal conversation ? "That is how the majority interprets it" Can't see your link btw.
2013-04-24 13:45
ironicly, 99% of terrorist attacks made by muslims.. just sain'
2013-04-24 00:00
Well, USA's "war" is terrorism, it's not called like that only because USA judges what is terrorism. The same thing is applied to what you country does to Palestine. And btw, most of these attacks are made by Al Qaida, not "muslims". I won't judge a whole community by taking only one person of this group as someone who represent it.
2013-04-24 00:10
prove it with some official statistics
2013-04-24 01:21
Killing Palestinians isn't terrorism? Nice...
2013-04-24 11:02
ironicly,%99 of atheists are stupid and they think they are smart because they dont believe in god.just sayin'
2013-04-24 12:42
No, we just know that religious people are pretty naive and stupid to believe in something that doesnt exist. And i for one, find that amusing.
2013-04-24 13:56
Butthurt more
2013-04-24 17:53
Lol, i think you're the one who is butthurt :P
2013-04-24 17:53
Answer me a question. Why do you not believe in zeus?
2013-04-24 14:44
Did zeus send a book to explain himself? If it makes more sense then Quran then i may sure believe in zeus.
2013-04-24 17:50
Brainwashed :D
2013-04-24 17:54
2013-04-24 18:26
I ordered a book from e-Bay and the seller's name was Allah69. I'm reading this book everyday and it keeps the nightmares away. Not.
2013-04-25 12:55 numerous studies show that middle easterns and africans are the statistically least smart people on earth, and they happen to be the statistically most religious people. go figure.
2013-04-24 15:33
Numerous other studies showed more then %70 of people who think they are smarter then other people by any means are actually have an less IQ in average. Hey.Thats you!
2013-04-24 17:51
I've taken my share of tests (not the shady ones on the internet) and I always score comfortably above average. please elaborate how my iq and understanding of it is relevant though? you pull percentages out of your ass, I point out the falsity and you decide that the best way to win the argument is to get personal. I really like where this is going, buddy.. seems like I'm in for a ride of stupidity.
2013-04-24 19:32
Israeli talking about terrorism haha the irony
2013-04-24 15:18
Albania Heavon 
Says someone from Israel??
2013-04-24 16:37
says israeli.Baby murderers.
2013-04-24 17:52
ITT: my god can beat up your god
2013-04-24 00:28
Who cares ? Not even my dick... So STFU GTFO
2013-04-24 00:42
"Muslims are violent terrorists and/or extremists." misconception my ass, that's a fact bro
2013-04-24 01:34
do u mean 20% of people on earth are terrorists ??
2013-04-24 07:40
2013-04-24 12:18
obviously trolling or big retard
2013-04-24 12:24
LOL you're the muslim.... sry troll*
2013-04-24 12:30
got a headche?
2013-04-24 12:45
oh wait Danes are never wrong
2013-04-24 17:11
2013-04-24 04:19
Here we go again..
2013-04-24 05:25
some people just not joining a religion because it's cool. haha "sir, I don't have a religion I must be smart and you're retard". lul
2013-04-24 05:47
some people just joining a religion because it's cool. haha "sir, I have a religion I must be smart and you're retard". lul
2013-04-25 13:12
GOD doesnt exist, and all the religions are fairy tales, END OF DISCUSSION kthxbai
2013-04-24 08:44
To all people here thinking all muslims are extremists,terorists etc. This is the shit media made you eat. Grow a brain,people! Think with it.Dont let media get into your mind.Don't let it control you like this.
2013-04-24 12:45
shh, terrorist
2013-04-24 12:46
Yeah, shut up....... terrorist.
2013-04-24 13:53
im dissapointed from 90% of comments here.
2013-04-24 13:16
Did you know that pigs have orgasms for 30 minutes?? crazy!
2013-04-24 14:00
in the UK most Muslims pray on young 13 year old girls, in the news papers all the time.
2013-04-24 14:33
what do u mean with pray on young 13 year old girls ?!!!! omg where do u read those stuff media is shitting ur mind
2013-04-24 14:38
Why every muslim are always saying "Media is shitting your mind, derp" ?
2013-04-24 14:43
in most cases yes media pulling a fast one, in this case no.. muslim drug rings going around picking up young woman forcing them into sexual acts.
2013-04-24 15:33
Damn... If Flying Spaghetti Monster will here about this topic, it will have far-reaching consequnces
2013-04-24 14:40
2013-04-24 14:54
I want proves and facts that god or allah exists till then keep ur shit for yourself meanwhile i will continue to believe in human kindness and live the life how i want to.
2013-04-24 14:49
You can't have proves and facts cause there are none. :D
2013-04-24 14:51
man imagine if there is no god/allah world will be like a forest no one will feel guilty killing/stealing/raping ...etc right ???
2013-04-24 14:51
I don't need a God to know that killing other people is wrong. Just get some education (though not even the most un-educated people living somewhere in the Jungle are as violent as most Muslims are, so you don't even need education, you just need a brain...something a lot of people in the middle-east have obviously lost).
2013-04-24 14:56
what is the point of living ??? what will happen after u die ?
2013-04-24 15:00
I don't know the answers on these questions. Nobody does! But instead of being afraid of it and lying to myself just to feel better about it ("there's must be a God, which gives my life a sense, and there must be a heaven after death so I don't need to be afraid of death"), I face the reality. The reality that we simply don't know the answers on these questions.
2013-04-24 15:06
to live a high quality life. you're dead and you rot. i doubt that your soul is transferred to a divine storage room that contains billions of humans... feel free to think whatever you want but restrain from spreading that bullshit to others ,especially on a gaming forums with many kids around.
2013-04-24 18:57
you just ruined your troll :/
2013-04-24 14:54
world will be like a get_right or maybe like a xizt
2013-04-24 17:01
ahhh morals and freewill, the final vestigials Religion clings onto after Science gave explanations to everything else Religion claimed to have the answers for (Earth centre of Universe, How life began, etc etc) There are many sources of education and learning that put these falsities to bed, I recommend the following; Both are available for download in pdf or audio format - free of charge if you know the right places.
2013-04-24 18:02
And HLTV user base again displaying how childish and racist it is. Wonder if the admins will do anything this time?
2013-04-24 15:01
Switzerland CHEDEL 
Do the muslims even lift ?
2013-04-24 15:11
Azerbaijan Talley 
Not all muslims are terrorists. But all terrorists are muslims!
2013-04-24 15:20
I lol'd here. +1
2013-04-24 15:29
Where are they then? It's funny that none of them has been caught alive or brought to court due to lack of evidence.
2013-04-24 15:30
far from true
2013-04-24 15:33
not as far as you think
2013-04-24 18:50
eta, ira, christian terrorists in the usa, TIGR, etc etc etc american government
2013-04-24 20:31
anders breivik - muslim right? U guys r so affected by the media srsly thats kinda sad.
2013-04-24 16:11
Azerbaijan Talley 
Muslim - Blames people for believing in media, believes in Koran himself. Oh the irony. I don't follow the media, I've lived enough time among muslims to know them. They're aggressive and its easy to manipulate them (ex. using as terrorist) P.S I'm not here to hurt anyone's feelings. I just want to see more open minded people.
2013-04-24 16:41
this is the must stupid comment ever read !
2013-04-24 18:34
2013-04-24 16:44
Amin Maalouf - In the Name of Identity: Violence and the Need to Belong Read that book boys !
2013-04-24 15:25
islamophobia IS the core of the european national identities, together with general racism, partiarchal mentality, etc. an important part of islamophobia is a belief in a stereotypical muslim - an arab with oil and bombs around his chest. people percieve the islam in morocco, saudi arabia, china, and indonesia (eg) as the same one. which is far from the truth. but that doesnt matter to them. they have to be islamohpobic in order to mainatinn their self-image so dont be surprised with such comments
2013-04-24 15:39
So, following most brainwashed kids' logic in here, there must be bombings and terrorists everywhere since there are millions of muslims in Europe, Australia, Asia, America and I don't see any of it.. There must be something else going on? Is it a coincidence that after 1400 years we started talking about islamic terrorism only in the last 15 years ? It's hilarious that these "muslims" have suddenly become violent and terrorists right when NATO and US government needed to invade middle east / go to war and increase their military budget / hide their social and economical failures / hide real terrorism / force us to accept a police state etc etc etc
2013-04-24 15:55
who cares ...
2013-04-24 15:55
Most religious nations = most retarded nations FACT Why bother argue here,they stuck in the past.
2013-04-24 16:43
Belgium Clinternet 
Posting islam shit on an esports site? nice O_o
2013-04-24 17:04
An offtopic, you don't like it, don't read or comment it
2013-04-24 17:46
Obviously, coming from a muslim :D
2013-04-24 21:06
2013-04-28 13:34
do this post explain how to blow yourself in train or in public places?
2013-04-24 17:29
Albania Heavon 
"O you who believe, do not consume each others' properties illicitly - only mutually acceptable transactions are permitted. You shall not kill yourselves. GOD is Merciful towards you" (Glorious Quran 4:29) "Anyone who commits these transgressions, maliciously and deliberately, we will condemn him to Hell. This is easy for GOD to do." (Glorious Quran 4:30) More: " not throw yourselves with your own hands into destruction. You shall be charitable; GOD loves the charitable." (Glorious Quran 2:195) ((Indeed, whoever (intentionally) kills himself, then certainly he will be punished in the Fire of Hell, wherein he shall dwell forever)), [Bukhaaree (5778) and Muslim (109 and 110)].
2013-04-24 18:20
cool story bro
2013-04-24 17:33
we dont give a shit about islam or any other religion.. this is hltv.. all we care is about i cs ... fuck off with these threads
2013-04-24 18:26
2013-04-24 21:10
Fuck im tired of seeing this fucking thread.
2013-04-24 21:10
I'm not a muslim but I really liked to thread. Enjoyed it, it cleared alot I didn't know. I am a who likes different interpretations of life philosophies. I can see that peoples perception is more on a cultural than spiritual basis.
2013-04-24 21:12
im a homosexual muslin
2013-04-24 23:13
good for you
2013-04-24 23:15
Thanks for your post, but you should have saved your effort. All these kids around are not raised to respect anything by their parents, and it clearly shows the lack of intelligence of most people in here. I enjoyed the post, and I can only agree, there is far too many misconceptions, and it is always made by the same people, the same generation and those who don't care about anything but themselves, and those who do not appreciate the meaning of life, before they are about to die. I have all respect for those who doesn't believe in any religion or god, and the same amount of respect for those who have their religion to help them, but it just isn't how these forums, or most of the world works. But either way, it is a great effort, and there is some of us who does appreciate it, specielly when it's nothing but facts to prove the opposite of what most people think. It saddenes me to have to read all these comments, where people say TL;DR followed up with a top 10 of what they think of islam and 98% of their post contains these misconceptions that was mentioned in the first place, if they took the time to read it. Perhaps the most on here are just scared of some sort, or anything. Scared to investigate further into religon, or scared because they feel they don't have committed to anything in their life, or scared of knowing the truth about something that they feel not to know about. Overall it is sad to see this kind of attack and hate, against a post that was there only to clear things up in peace. Either way, it does turn out that religon is just not to discuss with people, and that is simply the mind of most of them. Save your efforts, and keep what you believe in within you instead, otherwise these kind of disrespectful people will bring you to madness. What saddenes me even more, is those who say "I have been here and there, and I have seen them do this and that". The sad part about it is, whatever you see and whatever you hear, it does not mean it has anything to do with the religion, or the motive being religious. There is unfortunately just not the brains to understand it.
2013-04-25 00:00
Great post, thank you for taking the time to read and appreciate my post. Although I knew that most ppl will decide to flame on this topic, I was hoping I could get some people to appreciate this post that was written by Islamgate not me. I am just here to share the things he/she wrote which are meant to clarify things for people who want to understand what Islam is or those who're confused. It's okay man! Peace out!
2013-04-25 11:55
I agree with what you posted, yet is not the place for this. 70%-80% of people who post here are either 12-16 or retarded. - I do agree, the media did something to ruin the muslims reputation. Yet your forgetting that alot of muslims hurt islams reputation with their actions. Bin Laden, Sadam, Bashar AlAssad.
2013-04-25 00:03
Allahualam about Osama and Sadam~
2013-04-25 11:53
India dEaTh_kNiGhT 
f0rest is my God!
2013-04-25 11:36
Cant understand how people can belive in religions how come the best places and peaceful places on earth to live is the nordic countries, and by a strange accident are least religions people on earth. Use ur time on somthing els Than that nonsense
2013-04-25 11:40
breivik super peaceful dude
2013-04-25 13:16
They believe in religion for exactly the same reasons you don't, it's the way your parents and culture taught you.
2013-04-28 01:54
2013-04-28 02:27
Brah, I wonder what Allah thinks of you popping heads in CS.
2013-04-25 12:40
Fantastic read. It's as informative as it is articulate. Unfortunately, your words will fall mostly on deaf ears. The collective intellect in this thread is truly worrying and yet not surprising at all. I hope you post this piece at other public forums, perhaps where the user base is a little more mature.
2013-04-25 13:38
2013-04-28 02:27
2013-12-05 20:34
Who cares, all muslims share the same fucking stupid opinion. Animals & terrorists NO THX
2013-04-28 00:47
2013-04-28 03:06
who gives a shit
2013-04-28 03:23
counter strike = ct sided therefore ct > terrorists therefore ct > muslims so counter strike > muslims
2013-04-28 04:35
Bulgaria sN7 
Muslims are bad and they should feel bad. Christians are bad too. Well, as i see it, religion is the worst thing in the world. Actually, i said to my grandma, she believes in god and that crap, that i am an atheist and she started bashing me for it. She even threatened me that i will burn in hell and that god will punish me for this. I mean, she stands behind an invisible entity and bashes at her own grandson? Religion is destroying people and whoever says that everybody has his beliefs, is hella wrong. Religion is just blinding people and it has to stop. :( .. If people believe in god, what's the difference with Santa Claus then? Why don't they believe in poor Santa who gives presents ;[[[ i feel sad ..
2013-04-28 05:27
Religion isn't blinding people. Religions aren't bad. Bad people in a religion are. so being an atheist automatically makes you smarter? no.
2013-04-28 08:27
I'm tired of retarded internet users. If you're an atheist and you don't believe in God then shut the fuck up being an atheist doesn't automatically makes you smarter and being in religion doesn't automatically makes you stupid. religion isn't science. science is something you can proof and it become something you believe in. religion is something you can believe in and it becomes true. you don't even believe in god, you don't understand religion. I agree that one's goodness are not determine by how often pray are done but how many kindness are done. War isn't something religion has started, now could you guarantee that there wouldn't be any single war if religion is gone from this world? put two men in an isolated empty room. they eventually would find a reason to kill each other. Remember, Homo homini lupus. You don't believe in religion and you're saying religion are retarded? it's like BF3 kid saying Counter-Strike are worse because for them, it is just a graphic-retarded game just because they don't understand how tactical, team-based complex skill game CS are. would you CS players(atheist) blame casual(BF3 kiddy) because they loved BF3 more than CS? no because they don't understand and it's their right to love whatever they want to. And to me as a men with religion, saying "All religion are stupid and non-sense and should be removed from this earth" are automatically retarded because I respect atheist and gay marriage as everyone else but not self-minded self-proclaimed atheist hipster. No, I don't assume religions are good either. I won't preach how religion would save your afterlife but please...
2013-04-28 08:40
chill and take a coke xD
2013-04-28 13:32
Brazil dkf 
Seems like you are asking "What is so bad about religion?". Seriously. Thats like asking what is so bad about blissful ignorance. What is so bad about superstition. What is so bad about lying. Religion justifies a lot of crap, all around the world. Take your statement for one: "religion is something you can believe and it becomes true". For instance, there are millions of people going through meaningless suffering all around the world. People that die because they lack something to eat. People that have been born with weird diseases and impairing conditions, with no hope of a happy normal life. Actually, there are people that are born just to die, weeks, days, hours, even seconds after birth. And thats so sad we actually find difficult to face it and understand that there's no absolute meaning to it. "Life can't be this unfair, there must be something to justify all these bad things, it must be a part of God's plan". And thats just wishful thinking. Of course, you still want to believe in this illusion (else you would be an atheist by now), so you'll say, from your comfy room, and by the perspective of someone of probably has a relatively easy life, "Oh, these people are not true believers". Let me tell you a good verifiable example of how religion can be bad: There are some religions that forbid their followers from receiving donated organs, blood, and even basic stuff like penicillin and stuff like that. Now picture this, lets say a couple that follows this religion have a kid, and this kid goes through some kind of accident and needs to receive blood, else he'll die. If those parents do believe firmly in this crazy God that's against blood transfusion, they're gonna effectively kill their children in the name of God. And the parents can't be blamed by society, because religion makes denying medical treatment to children something acceptable.
2013-04-28 13:43
read my post one more time, please. I'm not defending religion, I'm not saying Religion are perfect. What I'm saying is that, What is so good being atheist? so each of every atheist give shit about millions of hungry African? and each of every man with religion killed their son because God asked them to do it? No. Religion taught some good moral which is acceptable in certain society but not all. Me being a christian just doing the good things of what my religion taught me to do. However going against gay marriage are a huge NO for me because I admit it is not their fault they wanted to be gay. It is because of the nature(chromosom and stuffs). The example you wrote above is not something because of religion, but lack of education. . Such insane action are not acceptable in democracy country . My religion taught me that gay/lesbian are wrong, I agree because it's not suppose to be that way. But I don't go against them and I respect gay/lesbian people as much as I respect normal people. I don't preach them to be a heterosexual person. which priest said african hungres are non-believer(except huge fanatic which I can consider a "cult" instead of religion)? "Bad things happen for a reason" is just a positive way to look at something? Like I said don't try to judge something that you don't even believe. You're like preaching a BF3 player that CS are better than BF3 in terms of gameplay and stuff. But to be honest, if BF3 players enjoy their game as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Let them be. TLDR; Religion doesn't make people bad, lack of education does. A Professor had less chance to kill someone than a hobo amrite?
2013-04-28 17:42
Brazil dkf 
I think I understood you post very well. You wondered why there are so many atheists that are against religion (and pretty open about it), and I said why: because its bad, bad like in "bad idea", "bad choice", "bad method", "bad consequences". No wonder there's so much criticism. Religion forces people to do terrible things, I gave you a good real example (and it seems you completely ignored it), and there's plenty more. You talk about fundamentalists being wrong, but how do you know? They're following their beliefs, their faith, just as you. You can't say that they're wrong for not approving gay marriage (even when it has nothing to do with their religion). Actually, I dare say that they're truer to their faith than you (and I don't mean this is a good thing), that is, if you're a christian that believes in the Bible. Well, to be fair, you actually can say that they are wrong, but it would place you in the same category of the anti-religion people all over the internet. Also, in order to "judge" you don't have to agree with it (but you sure must know about it). By your logic, every tribunal should be composed of criminals, because only criminals can understand all things that are crime related. Now, you said something interesting. You said that there's some good things in religion, and I totally agree with you, but is it worth the evil that comes along with it? All the dogmas and bad examples? Are you sure that you got your morals from your religion, and not from the people that you love, like your parents, your friends, and even from yourself? You look capable of deciding whats good and whats bad about religion, and by extension about anything else. If this is true, why do you need religion at all? Did you know that the Bible says that homossexuals should be killed? And being atheist is nothing special. I mean, its not particularly good, its not really about feeling good, at least not in the way people feel good when they think that they're going to heaven. This is not about the choice that makes you feel better, but about the choice that makes things right. The right choice, the one where you take full responsability for your life and the things you do. Also is the one choice where people can't use their beliefs (and their occult reasons) to take your freedom away.
2013-04-28 18:26
2013-06-06 19:39
Too long, no time, gtg study 4 exams
2013-06-06 19:51
Please go get an education. Religion(all of them) is shit.
2013-12-05 18:39
"Please go get an education" says it all
2013-12-05 20:33
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