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This does help me. I have a gtx 770 because I had shit fps with my old HD6870 so I thought an upgrade was needed. Changing gpu didn't improve my fps at all. I have a first gen i7 870 and it's quite clear that I need a new cpu and mobo to get a better frame rate.
I average 140 fps with gtx 770 and i7 870....
This matters because I have a 120hz monitor that I can't guarantee i'll get 120fps for.
So now the 660GTXOC is installed and results so far went kinda as expected.
78fps on public Death match small map
87 fps on public deathmatch dust2/train
125-299 fps in 5o5 125-170 fps in most 1v1 1v2 2v2 duels and
299fps when i am alone in tunnels.
So u can see the Geforce660GTXOC which is in theory more than 3x as fast as the 5670Radeon did sigificantly improve my max FPS in Situations that are 1v1 or in that i am alone.
I get 120fps more in B tunnels being alone at Dust 2 than with my
old radeon 5670
However when it comes to situations with lots of people the min fps isnt improved at all !
And overall thats what is important in CS:Go
min fps is all about CPU ... GPU has nothing to do with it
In Crysis 2 however as expected
from Got 24-41 fps mostly 31fps on old system
to 78-135fps with same settings mostly 93fps
I had similar kind of an update with CPU/GPU, what I noticed that I can use 1920, 4xAA, 16xAnistrop instread for 720p reso, 0xAA, bilinear.
dual core for csgo = fail
Intel Core i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz, 8 GB ram and a GT 610 = 40 FPS average on nearly every map.
Intel Core i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz, 8 GB ram and a GTX 650 Ti = 130+ FPS on all maps when streaming.
CS:GO all about CPU? No way. I've always denied this, and I always will.
Game settings: 1440x900, everything low, threads 4, priority high.
My processor is a 3rd generation processor. Let's say it's not a bad one. There are only a few which are better. I'll have to upgrade my GPU some time, and I bet I'll get 300+ FPS. No offense, but no-one can tell me that CS:GO heavily depends on your CPU due to my own experience.
Just to tell everyone, from my personal experience GO is not about the SPEED of CPU as such, but more about the memory bandwidth.
Example: I've been using i3 550 on my secondary build, with GTX 460 and 4 Gigs of ram. On all stock, I've been getting 70-120 fps, but it was kind of up and down all the time. After overclocking to 160BCLK, so my ram would be on its rated speed of 1600. Min fps never went under 120 after doing so, however, I did overclock the CPU at the same time (multiplier of 24 x 160bclk = 3.85GHZ). Now, I didn't know if the fps were due to faster CPU or the ram, so I decreased multiplier to 20, just to get to CPU's rated stock speed of 3.20GHZ and fps, here it comes, stayed on 120.
Looks like GO needs the memory bandwidth and at least some 1600MHz memory to run properly.
You can't overclock your Sandy, Ivy or Haswell i3's though, which is a shame. the only way to go nowadays are K i5's or getting a used Clarkdale/Lynnfield (very cheap) and OC'ing it.
Some insanely stupid posts here >-<
The icore3 in CS:Go works very well ....
unless constant 125fps+ in 5v5 Matchmaking is a fail to you since u think 300fps gives u any advantage over 125fps+ ...
So u run an I7 with a potato as graphic card (GT610....)and u replaced the potato with an actual graphic card (650TI) and notice a sigificant increase in fps
So you think graphic card plays a major role...
Plz turn on your brain !
The GT610 was never meant for gaming at all.
It is a 38$ office card which has no gaming ability at all... could aswell have plugged a potatoe in your pc would be as fast as the GT610...
The 650Ti is a low end gaming card and you get 130fps+ constant.
This proofs my point even more
It doesnt matter if you have a modern low end gaming card like
650ti, Radeon 7700
or high caliber stuff like 7970GHZ Radeon or Geforce760GTX
As long as u have a graphic card that is meant for gaming you will get same min fps... depending on the power of your CPU
lolol i have 8GB RAM; i3 3240 3.4 GHz and a GTX 650 and i got 200-300 fps 5on5 and 150-200 dm with 32 players
It's true, but you have to use GPU which can follow your cpu, otherwise you could get a bottleneck.
For example you can't get fps boost on i3 with gtx 660, and on i5 with GT 610.
i3 is the minimum nowdays, but i5's are doing great job since csgo and most of the newer games are desinged to benefit from quad or more cores. So the good match should be i5 with gtx66o and i3 with lower end cards.
my fps is crazy, but when i bought my gtx670 it went up 150-200 fps
Okay , to make things a bit more clear.
Ofc in every scenario you have to think that this is only a concept !
CS:Go overall as opposed to other games like Crysis2 is heavily CPU based. Thats a fact.
Most modern games are like 75%GPU and only 25%CPU
CS:Go however seems a lot more the other way round.
OFC when u play in 1080p and have SSAA and FX injectors on and all details on highest , even CS:Go would be very graphical demanding.
But thats just an unrealistic scenario.
90% of CS:Go players play on lowest/low details.
Because shiny graphics are very annoying in a fast paced multiplayer fps shooter.
1.) We are talking about minimum fps in realistic CS:Go settings.
In my case this was 1680x1050 all details lowest except for models at medium
2xAA 2xAF on.
As said multiple times above by me ... the average and max fps will increase greatly with better graphic card.
the min fps not.
Unless you had a potato as graphic card which cant even handle games from 2005 on lowest details...
which was the case in eXecz story.
His graphic card was 2times slower than my 4year old low buget 60€ card from 2009...
I mean what can i say ?
8th world wonder his FPS got improved by actual putting a graphic card in ?
to get to the average fps thing again
If i am standing idle in tunnels on Dust2 i get 299fps with the GTX660OC
I only got 186fps with my old Radeon 5670
in 1v1 duel situations i got ~ 170fps with my GTX660 OC
I only got ~ 140fps with my radeon 5670
So if i did run a benchmark program that shows average fps ->
the GTX660OC would be a performance improvement to the radeon 5670
Since ofc the average and maximum fps are a good amount higher.
Everybody can follow so far.
I was talking about min fps and heavy 5v5 situations.
u can simulate these best in f.e "destruction map bank with bots"
where its basically 5v5 standing against each other all shooting out of guns like mad.
In these situations the minimum fps will be the same
no matter if u have a Radeon4850 or a GTX770.
Cause the CPU is whats bottelnecking when ~10players are within a small area.
Thats a lot different to other games
And that was my whole point.
If you want fast FPS in CS:Go in every situation.
upgrading from a bad gaming card to a good gaming card will only increase your average and max fps but not the min fps.
There is not much to argue about that.
In a realistic setting the minimum fps will only be improved with a better CPU
Upgrading from a Radeon5850 to a Radeon7970GHZ wont increase your min fps
will ofc increase max fps and average fps
This information may help some people.
Fine your FX6300 gives you more fps in CS:Go
It also consumes 3times as much power and produces a lot more heat while u cant upgrade in the future unless you buy a new motherboard with it.
Also the I3 3220 is on average 10-15% faster than the FX6300 in most games !
Its just that in CS:Go since CS:Go is so CPU heavy the FX6300 is faster.
I am fine with the I3 3220 though.
125min fps and 170fps in 1v1 duels is enough for me
i got a fcking i7 4770k+gtx670 and still bad fps, around 300 (5v5) 250ish on dm.
most ppl play with low resolutions instead off everything maxed out so ofc it becomes cpu based.... common sense goes a long way
I think Valve has made their games CPU reliant for their Steam Box product.
Even 1.6 has been ported over to be CPU based. When you play on older single core systems FPS is horrible because CPU usage is 100% all the time. The same system would play CS 1.6 with no problems before the later updates from Valve. A single core system with HT cannot handle CS 1.6 anymore. You need a dual core to play CS 1.6 now.
GO is much the same as 1.6. You need at least a dual core system to get proper FPS. On computers I have used multi-core has to be on always or FPS will be very low. It is very ridiculous.
I think Valve has made a major mistake doing this with their games.
I changed my GTX550Ti for a GTX760. Same FPS too.
Not really on topic but just my 2 cents :
I recently installed windows xp and have 50 to 100 more fps than on win7
e8400 - GTS 250
have oced my memory from 1333mhz to 1600mhz and increasing the dram voltage from 1.50 to 1.57. my fps stayed at constant 120 as compared to before which keep fluctuating between 60-120. Can conclude that ram mhz played quite a important role. Didn't oc my cpu though just my ram.
Kinda true, but you need GPU, newer or on the same level as your cpu, because gpu is the one who is boosting your fps on higher resolutions, higher details and similar.
For example I was testing i5-2500k + gtx 660 (200~250fps DM, - 250~340 fps@1204 low and medium details), i5-2500k + gtx 680 (DM 300fps or more fps @any resolution). Also i5-2500k with HD 7850 (150~200 DM, 200~300 @1024 with low and medium details), i5-2500K + r9 270x with same fps as HD 7850.
Then i've tried same GPUs with FX8350 and fps decreased by -50 average paired with all gpu's except HD 7850 (200~350 both DM and 5on5 @any resolution).
On the other hand, on games such as BF3,BF4, FX8350 was performing better than my i5, regardless of above listed GPUS
So if you have gpu lower than your cpu, try to overclock CPU, because it will really boost your fps, also from my experience it's better to pair Intel+Nvidia (for csgo) than AMD+nvidia, or intel+AMD.
I was too lazy to make a scheme, but this might help you and the others choosing the right parts if you will use your PC mostly for csgo. Also make sure that you can get at least 650W PSU if you wanna play with overckocking .
used to i5 3300p with gt 620 and had 90 fps max changed my graphic card to gtx 750 i have 300 fps stable so there is a big dif with graphic card aswell
i'm having issues with my pc too, just upgraded aswell
CPU: Intel i5-4670
MOBO: ASRock H87 Performance
GPU: Asus GTX650 2gb
SSD: Samsung EVO 250GB
130fps on i5? i got 150 fps(1024,16xaa) on 5200 athlon 2,7ghz(cost 15$) XD
So Guys I am About to upgrade my intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.80 Ghz to core i5 processor 3.20 Ghz and my GPU is Nvidia 210 so What will be my FPS on high settings in CS GO?
so now i know why i got that much freezes,fps drops etc -_-
c2d 2.66ghz e7300
4gb ram ddr2
hd7750 1gb gddr5
max settings no vsync nd antiliasing
i normally get 100+ fps on official maps like dust nuke etc but random drops mostly when i see a enemy coming -_-
So! i guess i need a serious update :P
Thnx for the great explanation !
Got a question thought, what's the minimum fps I can expect ?
i5 4590 with 7750 1GB, reso 1366x768, others medium.
lol i have fx8320 for processor
uninstalled my 660ti and installed a new GTX 970
10 extra fps
AMD FX-4100 overclocked to the max.
hf with your constant 300fps for half the price of a i5
Lol guys, don't laugh at me pls. can't afford new PC atm
7 year old shuttle pc
2.6 GHz dualcore
2 GB RAM
512 MB GeForce 9600 GT
hello i play 1 fps Globalhelite
for real, FPS dont matter
Guys, i need some help here.
Cpu : core i2 280 GHZ.
Graphic card: nvidia msi gt 730 4gb.
Memory : Ram 2 GB
And i get 60-70 fps with lowest settings.
I have good graphic card, and its new, is there anyway to focus the game on the graphic card more than the cpu.
And if i buy another 2 ram so ill have 4 ram, this will increase my fps, if yes how much?
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