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Valve, wake up!
World king of hltv 
When are these guys actually planning to do something to finally fix this game? Why is the sound of a game that is over 10 years old better than CSGO's? Why is CSGO's movement still so bad? Why are we playing horrible maps like Valve's inferno or train? Why, why, why? I personally was never a great aimer (at least not a consistent one). My playstyle was based on lurking around and outplaying the enemy. The fact that sound in this game is so goddamn bad and that people can just mindlessly peak corners with lightspeed completely removed this aspect from the game, this playstyle just doesn't work out anymore. I also loved 1onX situations since things like wallbanging, movement, the fact that people COULDN'T peak corners mindlessly and that I COULD actually hear my enemies properly gave me a shitload of options to outplay them. I had options to counter aimers. In CSGO all this doesn't exist, this is such a onesided game. What do you think is the reason why the results have been completely random in the last months? Why do you think players like Neo aren't even nearly as good as they used to be? People have been asking and doing really precise suggestions on what to change since release. Even the maps were recreated by the community and people love them. They could just pick these maps up! But what is Valve doing? They're chaning the way you can navigate through the scoreboard. Doing a great job, as always. Please Valve, keep up the amazing work!
2014-04-04 13:51
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all hail king of hltv
2014-04-04 14:10
Back to 1.6 my king.
2014-04-04 14:16
+1 No one will care about this thread. They want money and they're having it right now. But yeah, it is all your fault by buying their stupid skins. Buy also a purse and use it in-game, idiots.
2014-04-04 14:59
this. this kind of threads are made by people who stll play 1.6 from time to time. if you just play csgo, you will see that this game is balanced, so much more than 1.6... god, you just have to accept that 1.6 is so easy game.
2014-04-04 18:25
i smell a saucer.
2014-04-05 02:41
brainless reply.
2014-04-06 12:43
bro, you are completely wrong..CS:GO is totally random game..1.6 was only about skill and nothing more..but in CS:GO :D u can sit+move+spray and kill randomly 564736 people..or with unstoppable P90 only rush and there is a win..now its 2014 and Valve is not able to make some anticheat ? ..wtf but they will sell that game for 2 € oh why not ? cheaters everywhere kokoti
2014-04-05 02:53
#194
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Brazil INSIDER1234 
betting your are not more like gold nova 3. dont know which level you play this game but exactly types of player like your are the shittiest player then they flame the game :DDD
2014-04-05 05:28
no. at first your english is just like a shit..i am better than gold nova 3 :) valve knows that CS:GO is full of cheaters but they want to make money money money..its all about it..sry noob..and my flame on the game was totally right so go away!
2014-04-05 16:25
unstoppable p90?! we got a noob over here... Why don't we see pro teams using that OP weapon? they should buy it every round if it is so great. Do you also think negev is the greatest weapon ever?
2014-04-06 17:27
did u ever played CS:GO ? :D
2014-04-07 01:52
this is exactly what I think everytime I see someone complaining about the p90....It's a good weapon only for noob fights.
2014-04-07 02:19
P90 wins super vs no armor
2014-04-08 22:36
you're right !
2014-04-07 00:34
well csgo isnt about spray n pray is for skilled guys, so gtfo, we dont need more noobs like you with p90 on game ! just a movement improve then is on point.
2014-04-04 16:20
shut up dude. either u go back to ur cave, or 1.6
2014-04-04 16:23
How constructive of you... don't improve the game, just roll back to the beginning of the beta.
2014-04-04 16:54
FIFFLAREN #1
2014-04-04 14:11
#12
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Brazil autismo 
9/44 was a inside job
2014-04-04 14:26
i see what you did there
2014-04-04 14:39
hahaha lol'd :D
2014-04-04 18:08
#233
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Lithuania AioNw0w 
:D n1
2014-04-05 14:04
its cs not bf4
2014-04-04 14:13
i have no idea why you play this game, you seem to hate everything in it.
2014-04-04 14:13
Did you even read my post?
2014-04-04 14:15
he didn't, i guess he's silver :p
2014-04-04 15:31
#106
OZALA | 
Finland OZALA 
and you? :DDD
2014-04-04 18:08
I'm Supreme master ;)
2014-04-04 20:22
hello, i am supreme global master eagle and i own u
2014-04-04 21:05
haha yeah sure.. none can win over stupid :p
2014-04-04 21:53
how was that in any fucking way related to his supposed match fucking making rank :--DDDDD
2014-04-06 02:51
hahaha :D I don't know dude :p It came from nowhere :p
2014-04-06 12:02
#6
Estonia rYm 
money is all they care about, just relax and enjoy playing shitty game
2014-04-04 14:15
#8
Denmark  xeon 
"Why do you think players like Neo aren't even nearly as good as they used to be?" Cause 1.6 and GO are 2 different games... Seems like most people think that just because X player was good in 1.6/source, then he should be it in GO too...
2014-04-04 14:21
If 'different' means simpliying the game to a point where only amazing aimers can get far individually, I agree.
2014-04-04 14:31
u are a fan of fifflaren, no posts posts for u
2014-04-05 07:10
whats wrong with the sound? i can hear everthing i need to
2014-04-04 14:21
#66
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Netherlands Nieroth 
Up and down is kinda hard to hear, but for the rest its fine yeah. I can still pinpoint exactly where somebody is just by sound.
2014-04-04 16:21
agree man, whenever i play nuke im always confused as fuuuuck
2014-04-04 18:12
+1
2014-04-05 07:01
+1 , up and down really bad
2014-04-05 03:03
for me sound is mostly ok but there are some problems..atleast for me like short on mirage or on nuke where I simply cant tell where are my oponents. They are running below me and it sounds like they are in front of me..strange..I dont know if its a problem with my sound or with game but its true that in 1.6 I could guess much better where my enemy were and make easier prefires and decisions based on sound. Otherwise Im fine with go. The sound and the pro90 bothering me a little :D I think valve made a really good job with go and they are not deserving comments like from King because they dont want to create another 1.6.
2014-04-04 18:07
#123
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Denmark fyhn 
Have you ever played nuke?
2014-04-04 19:03
yes, i can hear everthing fine
2014-04-04 19:52
You can hear everything fine, no argument there, it is just super hard to figure out whether the sound is coming from the top or the bottom.
2014-04-07 01:07
I agree on the sound, but do you really want like it was in 2012, start of 2013 where NiP dominated everyone?! Lel
2014-04-04 14:21
but i have to agree with Sound and Movement.
2014-04-04 14:25
I bought this game after I tried the BETA. My friends, mostly from 1.6, told me it had improved a shitload since the BETA, and there was only minor issues left "Which could be fixed in a matter of time". The game was bs.. the movement was terrible (still is), the recoil was random as hell.. no solid weapons for each side. That's the first word that pops up when I think about CS:GO.. RANDOM The opposite of random? Skill. The professional side is about skill, the casual side is about randomness. This game was meant to satisfy casual gamers. An even-more terrible reincarnation of CS:S It's too late to drastically fix the game now though...
2014-04-04 14:30
Well actually, the opposite of random is planned. #herpderp
2014-04-04 14:29
Or systematic, particular, specific, precise etc etc #UnderstandingContext youtube.com/watch?v=nQB4nAjZIdE
2014-04-04 14:34
dat song tho *_*
2014-04-04 14:53
south park <3
2014-04-04 16:41
'It's too late to drastically fix the game now though...' Why? As I said, people have been doing precise suggestions on what to change, they just need to listen.
2014-04-04 15:15
Doing what I (and you.. probably) think of proper fixes to the game will change it into a completely different game and probably should have happened in the beta or the early stages..
2014-04-04 16:39
To explain this further: Valve was never about the competitive side of their games. They have always made original games that appeal to most consumers. CS was a result by a clever strategy by Valve (share the source code of a brilliant engine) The fact that CS got competitive was purely an "accident" and Valve really didn't do much to promote it. They made banners for the most popular maps and did whatever they could to piss the community off really.. Steam wouldn't exist without the original Counter-Strike. Most of their popular games probably wouldn't exist without Counter-Strike and the original community. Result: Valve ignores the original community that made them a big company in the first place, and appealed to the young casual consumer. Valve use clever business strategies, (eg. when they develop games they are not afraid to "fail" and rebuild it from scratch) But they simply don't care about the original consumer, which is why I don't believe they could ever make a solid CS game again, and they won't fix CS:GO's issues (Because they consider CS:GO a success already, in the eyes of casuals and by looking at the vast amount of sales)
2014-04-04 17:11
AMEN!
2014-04-04 17:24
+1 amazing comment
2014-04-05 02:43
This is a very solid post. I feel quite betrayed by Valve to be honest. The way they handled everything around the CS "franchise" has been very disappointing.
2014-04-05 21:16
+1
2014-04-04 16:14
Actually the 1.6 recoil is random, the GO recoil uses 1 pattern per weapon.
2014-04-04 17:15
I haven't played CS:GO much, so I don't know how the recoil behaves 100% But from what I've experienced, it's dreadful. While you can controll your aim in 1.6 completely by knowing it's pattern, spread and behavior, it's impossible to do in CS:GO. And it just basically feels awkward.. The first few shots should never move straight to the sides, and never move too far from the first shot initially.
2014-04-04 17:22
I like the 1.6 recoil better too, but I don't think they're gonna change it because most players are used to it already. I like to see the 1.6 recoil though since tapping is more effective too.
2014-04-04 17:30
Mm I think you're right And it's not like I necessarily want a 1.6 recoil, but any recoil that doesn't have that "random" feeling would be better imo
2014-04-04 17:32
Yep.
2014-04-04 17:34
did you know that in 1.6 for m4 they had 12 different patterns for spray while in go you have only 1? so which one is more random? :D
2014-04-04 18:12
#89
2014-04-05 02:06
there is anything random on cs go recoil dude, it s allways the same pattern, in 1.6 you had randomness on recoil.
2014-04-04 18:15
wrong reply sorry
2014-04-06 02:46
"I haven't played CS:GO much, so I don't know how the recoil behaves 100%" So, you say you don't understand GO's recoil, and you don't control it, but you critizice it? Ok...
2014-04-05 22:50
Almost right.
2014-04-06 02:45
No it isn't. Actually, CS 1.6 has different recoil patterns for different types of guns. I would say that recoil was much more easier in CS1.6 than it is CSGO.
2014-04-05 10:37
halooo friends, what mice is the best for cs go? ty
2014-04-04 14:28
tuchpad
2014-04-08 22:51
#15
Halton | 
Spain akproxx 
Why are we playing horrible maps like Valve's inferno - kidding :D
2014-04-04 14:29
hahahaha so funny mate, of course you don't get that since you've never played any other version of inferno.
2014-04-04 14:32
#20
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Greece her-1g 
really stop writing. game will be like this period.
2014-04-04 14:33
If everyone would think this way, we'd still be living in caves.
2014-04-04 14:34
#25
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Greece her-1g 
dude really, csgo is just fine. it was a bad game until summer 2013 then they fixed lots of major things. And until you write a list with complete depth analysis of why do you think that 1.6 was better im not gonna support threads like this.
2014-04-04 14:36
Cause you were not good at CS 1.6. And you learned CSGO quickly because there's not much depth. Just run and shoot and do "adadadadad". CS 1.6 "have" more depth. You can even make 1v5, 1v4 easily. Through what sources? "Obviously movement,shooting reflaxes,1 shot 1 kill mechanics and wallbangings!" Now that, CSGO has eliminated without inheriting from it's predecessor CS 1.6. And if you say "maps do like look CS 1.6". Yeah it does look like CS 1.6 but map mechanics does not match. CSGO is fine game, "if no previous versions of counter-strike to be released". I think valve is going backwards. Like, rather making game hard to master, making it easy to master. And yeah I do not have any PC issues, I'm playing CSGO on 300 to 350 FPS.
2014-04-04 15:43
#59
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Greece her-1g 
so because i like csgo that means that i wasnt good in 1.6 . 1v5 1v4 etc are almost the same in csgo. Actually you need more skill to do it because of no tagging. and actually csgo still doesnt feel natural to me but i enjoy it as much as i did with 1.6 . certainly excessive wallbanging, bunny hoping, russian walk etc are things that i do not miss at all.
2014-04-04 16:08
well dude, what I meant to say is that follow this post #57.
2014-04-04 16:18
still shots don't register like in 1.6. Those 1 shots are really hard in GO as compared to 1.6. But still the game is evolving so i hope in future, valve might work on this.
2014-04-05 07:10
#208
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Greece her-1g 
its an engine problem. Unreal, crytek and goldsrc engines dont have reg probs
2014-04-05 09:23
exactly!
2014-04-05 10:38
1.6 masterrace best game ever no bugs good game stfu haters 1.6 best
2014-04-04 14:33
^ TL;DR version of the first post, good job
2014-04-04 14:52
Yeah, totally.
2014-04-04 15:16
source was way better
2014-04-04 14:56
at being awful
2014-04-05 02:55
no bugs XDDDDDD
2014-04-04 17:23
this bugs are masterpiece. So shut the hell up.
2014-04-05 02:32
ok captain. glad csgo has no russian walk and wc paper maps like nuke cheers :>
2014-04-05 13:11
shut up, 1.6 is the best game ever had no bugs or glitches or any known issues, masterpiece deal with it
2014-04-05 03:44
I didnt say its a bad game, but the whole game is all about bugs and no mater which part of the game we see (recoil,hitbox,movement even the graphical user interface is buggy as hell) tho there is no game which has no glitches and bugs. well everyone has a different opinion, imo the best games and harder to master ones are definitely quake,ut and painkiller than comes the cs series.
2014-04-05 13:09
"the cs series" Don't clump them all up like that. CS 1.6 is too good of a game to be clumped up with CS:GO and the rest of the garbage games who took that name.
2014-04-05 21:21
CSGO at this time is a perfect valve done good job fixed this game if you have any problems before flaming about "VALVE" making something bad maybe is just you bad allways remember this game is not css, not 1.6 and not 1.5 its a new game everythings new u flaming that the game is bad maybe your PC and u bad but for me everythings just fine ! :)) go DM and stuff if u feeling noob but don't be a dickhead and don't flame on valve they good guys maked this game for us maked skin system and other stuff just for us ofc they getting lots of money but they deserved that and if you flaming so much about this game make something like this and show me how u fix all stuff but everything answers your questions is "THIS IS NEW GAME" :) Sounds are perfect for me hitbox are perfect just best game to go and play maybe yes there is some problems with CPU's and fps lags but everything will be fixed in a months years days time :)
2014-04-04 14:34
Why name it Counter-Strike then? To piss their community off?
2014-04-04 14:38
What kind of question is that? Are you saying that GTA 5 shouldn't be called GTA because it looks and feels different compared to the very first GTA game?
2014-04-04 14:57
Completely misleading but yes.
2014-04-04 16:44
#29
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Switzerland banzB1CEPS 
IQ: -10 And yes, this game is random as hell.
2014-04-04 14:49
Go back to your cave.
2014-04-04 14:34
piss off...
2014-04-04 14:36
#30
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Finland kimi__ 
Again mad 1.6 players complains about csgo. Ofc new cs must have new recoil and movement, and what the fuck really "i cant hear my enemy properly" what the fucking cheap headset are you using? Delete this thread pls. inb4 rage from 1.6 players
2014-04-04 14:54
Go play nuke and tell me if you can hear a difference between people walking around on A or B.
2014-04-04 15:13
#51
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Finland kimi__ 
Why would I do that? I have eyes
2014-04-04 15:37
ahhahahaa
2014-04-04 15:46
He wallhacks, no need for sound..
2014-04-04 15:46
#69
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Finland kimi__ 
You really call that wallhack if I can see is A clear or not
2014-04-04 16:24
well you just said that, didn't you? :P "While your enemy running around A or B" and you said "Why would I do that? I have eyes" xD
2014-04-05 10:40
FailFish
2014-04-05 02:33
lmao
2014-04-05 07:12
he's right though... yes this isn't 1.6 but why fight against the fact that 1.6 is still very very much the better game. It's all counter-strike so stop fighting the fact that 1.6 got it right and get the best aspects from that game and bring them in. i bet all this kids say 'ahhh fuck 1.6 its a new game' would be blown away by how much more fun cs can be with decent movement, decent map pool, good sound and some more walla banging. True story bro comon valve getting sick of it now. They should have just giving 1.6 a face lift, all some new guns and all the skins and match making that puts it all in a neat package. end
2014-04-04 14:50
I actually like that unique style that CSGO has. This game could be so fucking good if they'd fix all the shit that I and lots of other people here mentioned.
2014-04-04 15:18
By the way: i bet all this kids say 'ahhh fuck 1.6 its a new game' would be blown away by how much more fun cs can be with decent movement, decent map pool, good sound and some more walla banging. Fucking this!
2014-04-04 15:38
Most people won't even feel a difference bbetween the changes xD.
2014-04-04 17:20
I hated cs:go when it was released, tried it only a few times back then. Few months ago i tried it again, the difference was massive. The developers has definitely gone in the right direction, it's a far better game than it used to be. Still I wish boxes, walls, etc. were more penetrable. Dunno if other people agree on this but I find it silly that you can get just hide behind cardboard boxes knowing that it's impossible to wallbang through them. I'm not saying that you should be able to shoot through a 5 meter thick stone wall as in 1.6, but boxes and other small ingame objects should definitely be penetrable.
2014-04-04 14:55
broken game.
2014-04-04 14:55
regarding the sound problem: forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthrea..
2014-04-04 14:58
Do people here know what paragraphs are ?
2014-04-04 15:00
csgo would be ok for me but i cant stand shitty maps
2014-04-04 15:02
i'm waiting for CSP fanboys to show up
2014-04-04 15:06
dead and buried ;) (i used to be one of them)
2014-04-04 18:24
Sound is bad Movement is bad Maps are bad MONEYZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ??????????? valve need da moneyz sweg
2014-04-04 15:20
Only thing I don't like about the sound is the up/down variation sometimes its impossible to tell :(
2014-04-04 15:26
#49
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Brazil hugoooo 
It was 100% made for casuals and BF-CoD players since the begining, that explain why tha game is what it is right now.
2014-04-04 15:30
totally agree! For the sound problem, I guess it's engine problem. I like CSGO very much, but comparing it with CS 1.6 and saying that it's far better.. yes it's better but only in terms of graphics. About game play, none can match with CS 1.6. And valve really need to work on this!.
2014-04-04 15:57
+1
2014-04-04 16:11
nostalgia
2014-04-04 17:25
:)
2014-04-04 18:12
this
2014-04-05 02:36
+1
2014-04-05 07:14
#58
Germany ayyy 
yea volvo pls fix that king of hltv is good again
2014-04-04 16:03
You are stuped idiot, plz delete this game... CSGO is good, except cheaters
2014-04-04 16:13
#52, we've answer for this "" xD
2014-04-04 16:21
yeah it is... but it could be so much better and we would all have a game we loved. i don't think there would be any complaining if they made movement and sound better and my put the awp back to no delay. just means good players can peak even high and get to an even higher level. go watch some forest 1.6 vids to what he is now. its a shame really and its all because of the movement in GO ect.
2014-04-04 17:41
exactly!
2014-04-05 10:27
ohhh sigh, what happened to this community...
2014-04-04 16:18
You can't change anything with this thread. Even on reddit Valve are implementing only a small ideas and a small corrections, nothing more. Because other changes are very risky and expensive. And New community is mixed now. Thats what happened.
2014-04-05 02:42
That post was the biggest bullshit I have read so far. Yes, sound is VERY bad, and peeks are fast. BUT in NO way does that remove outplaying enemies. Things are not even related. Why was get_right top 1? He is DEFINITELY NOT the best aimer, not even close. What he has is brain, and he IS OUTPLAYING enemy strategically. Seems like you are just shit, because sound and movement doesn't affect a shit on strategic play. In some situations sound fails you, so what, shit happens. It doesn't still remove outplaying in any way.
2014-04-04 16:30
are you that guy who sees enemy without hearing it from him? #51. I guess you are.
2014-04-04 16:52
#72
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Austria db42 
1/10
2014-04-04 16:40
Why is the sound of a game that is over 10 years old better than CSGO's? I've been saying this since csgo's release. You can't tell where people are or how many. It's bs. Valve had problems with CSS as well, the quality of the sounds were awful.
2014-04-04 16:46
Its our headsets obviously!!! They like to work on 1.6 but with GO they just decide to turn into a pair of apple in ear headphones. Replacing mine ASAP. #30
2014-04-05 03:29
#77
Serbia sALE 
Lets be realistic they wont change the maps,only community banding together can do that(and community wont do that),but if valve increased tagging and decreased peekers advantage,this game becomes more balanced and lets face it more playable for people who dont just relly on aim.
2014-04-04 16:47
i don't find the sound nor the steps a problem, i can easily tell where he is stepping around. So you what i agree on is: i quote "I personally was never a great aimer" since you are obv not even good at the game. If you are trying to get attention by valve or anyone do it the right way.
2014-04-04 16:52
dont want to copy 1.6 cuz 99% of valve staff is nova 3~master guardian 2 don't even understand you get cheated half the time in high level pubs remove linux wallbangs make crap maps
2014-04-04 16:55
Okay I'm done with this website. Tired of morons that have no clue about CS and cannot even speak proper english insulting me and coming up without any valid points but OMG YOU IS IDIOT, GAME IS GOOD IS NEW GAME NEED ADAPT. YOU CANT BRING 1.6 BACK BECUZ DEADED. Those people might be one of the reasons why this game is still broken. I can imagine that Valve actually visits this website from time to time seeing threads like this but I guess comments by clueless retards like #30 are holding them back from changing anything. I might go to reddit or steam forums or whatever to give exact instructions on what to change and how to change it so you stupid kids will realize that you could have been playing a way better game all this time.
2014-04-04 17:08
Same on reddit and steam forums, you have to just accept that. The only difference is that there are morons with no clue about CS but they will not offend you ofc, because they are worried about the rating...
2014-04-05 02:48
Sadly many of the people I saw who were making good informative threads on how to make the game better on the steam forums gave up.. a good few months ago :( Reddit... meh, no comment.
2014-04-05 03:15
cya take analb0lic with you too please.
2014-04-05 05:11
#169
2014-04-05 05:19
seems like i really upset you for you to be stalking each of my comments im glad i got a rise out of you tho its cute i think someone has a crush on me.
2014-04-05 05:51
"My playstyle was based on lurking around and outplaying the enemy" hahaha what are you going to outplay, noob
2014-04-04 17:09
OMG YOU IS IDIOT, GAME IS GOOD IS NEW GAME NEED ADAPT. YOU CANT BRING 1.6 BACK BECUZ DEADED. i.imgur.com/WSmpayC.gif
2014-04-04 17:10
Never thought id see the day... +! Was great while it lasted.
2014-04-05 03:17
dude do you live on this thread or what? you watch it like a hawk.
2014-04-05 05:12
dude it's not your business how someone spends his time.
2014-04-05 05:21
And its none of your business getting between a question i clearly asked him not you, so defend your boyfriend some other time ;)
2014-04-05 05:44
no ;) I will defend those who are right. And you troll-kid just burn.. burn.
2014-04-05 05:53
let him do what he wants brother :p aren't he seeing our comments like a crow? :P chill mate.
2014-04-05 09:59
omfg, 1.6 died, bitch, cs;go really looks nice and u suck !
2014-04-04 17:14
'cs:go really looks nice' cool. how does that make it a good game tho? reconnect your brain pls.
2014-04-05 03:01
r u fucking dumb? cs:go really looks nice, and you, 1.6 lover, u should play 1.6 if you dislike csgo as a game ;)
2014-04-05 06:47
delete this useless thread already
2014-04-04 17:25
Useless cause trying to make the game better for everyone. The logic is strong within you.
2014-04-05 03:18
thats based on opinion not fact.
2014-04-05 05:13
thats based on fact.
2014-04-05 05:18
show me the facts then. by opinion 1.6 is better and i agree it is. but by fact cs go is better larger player base and bigger prize pot. Also its by opinion because some people do not like these changes tho i do like movement alot more in 1.6 and shooting i hated the wall banging and wouldnt want to see that come back in cs go well not as strong.
2014-04-05 05:41
"i hated the wall banging and wouldnt want to see that come back in cs go well not as strong." hahaha :D i don't know what to say :p. pity on you :p
2014-04-06 12:08
you have to admit wallbanging in 1.6 was op. Especially in nuke.
2014-04-06 17:01
Bigger prize pot = skins Larger player base = skins and drops
2014-04-07 01:26
it's a different game, get used to it or go back 10 years. and yes, useless thread.
2014-04-04 17:37
it's a different game Why name it Counter-strike? Why not develop a game that's better than it's precedes? Isn't the future about progress? Why not fix relevant issues? get used to it Why? Just because we're a united community doesn't mean we're all mindless consumer zombies. go back 10 years I would if I could, my Delorean is at the shop.. and yes, useless thread Your opinion.
2014-04-04 17:47
why name it: because they own it and they can make soap with this name why not develop a better game: from many many points it's a better game (i agree it was shit when it came out, but it gets better and better, ask 90% of pro players and they will tell you the same) why not fix relevant issues: idk, but you have to agree they fixed a lot of bugs (they are talking with the pros.. this thing never happened before this game and I think this is a huge step forward) get used to it: because you dont have any other choice (or stick with old versions and play only on pubs full of hackers, or at least that's the situation here). and CS is not an united community, it's very very far from it (just look at all the insults and trash talk around here and then multiply it by 10). and about the consumer zombies: how many skins do you have in your inventory? 10 years: ok and yes, it's my opinion, I dont post here as the manager of my department at work or as the head of my family.. how you are entitled to any opinion, so am i. you ppl need to understand that valve is not your enemy, they made a product and they want to make a fortune out of it. your (our) interests are not always the same and guess who has the last word? so again, instead of trashtalkin the game, try to come up with a plan, think positive.
2014-04-04 18:12
why name it: because they own it and they can make soap with this name You're saying it like it's a good thing? why not develop a better game: from many many points it's a better game I bet it's mostly casuals and newcomers, and a limited amount of the competitive side (mm not included) why not fix relevant issues: idk, but you have to agree they fixed a lot of bugs (they are talking with the pros.. this thing never happened before this game and I think this is a huge step forward) Yeah they fixed a lot of minor bugs, I don't care about minor bugs. hell.. all of my favorite games a filled with minor bugs. It's the big sound issues, the awkward movement, recoil etc etc.. (i agree it was shit when it came out, but it gets better and better, ask 90% of pro players and they will tell you the same) Of course the professionals will say that, they care about money, sponsors and fame. Quite funny that I've heard former professionals (and even zonic) bash the game to oblivion. It also seemed like the entire Danish cs 1.6 scene completely ignored CS:GO.. I haven't follow any other scene closely at 1.6's fall. get used to it: because you dont have any other choice (or stick with old versions and play only on pubs full of hackers, or at least that's the situation here) That's what I'm doing.. and playing a bit of other new shooters.. because if CS:GO is an entirely different game, why not just choose another, better one? Again: I don't want CS:GO to fail, I just want it to get better.. ofc I hope for the best for the CS scene. and CS is not an united community, it's very very far from it Ofc it is? 1. CS:GO has united a limited amount of the 1.6 and the CS:S scene. 2. HLTV.org had always been a 1.6 site.. many regulars are still here, including me (though... the majority has left) 3. ... the Counter-Strike brand..?! how many skins do you have in your inventory? 0 steamcommunity.com/id/dannybk/ and yes, it's my opinion, I dont post here as the manager of my department at work or as the head of my family.. how you are entitled to any opinion, so am i. One thing is having a point of view.. another is using it like it's the only right view because the braindead majority might agree with you. you ppl need to understand that valve is not your enemy, they made a product and they want to make a fortune out of it. your (our) interests are not always the same and guess who has the last word? Yep hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=567580#r522.. so again, instead of trashtalkin the game, try to come up with a plan, think positive. Already did, and others already did (OP)
2014-04-05 03:51
this kind of discussion (even if we have different opinions) should be spread around hltv.org. i respect your opinion while you can express it in a decent and civilised matter (which you do). i can bet you that if people start to think and talk, not hate and swear, things can get better, including in the csgo scene/community/whatever-csgo-means. thanks.
2014-04-05 16:14
completely agree
2014-04-04 17:51
Just let's all return in cs 1.6 where is not all about money, where game is perfect. :)
2014-04-04 18:15
agreed
2014-04-04 18:17
just stopped to say that i love the game as its now. Its 10 times better than 1.6. And about the sound i dont know what you are talking about, buy a proper headset or something, because its WAY better than CS1.6 and a lot of new modern games. I can tell where the oppnent is by sound only almost every time (and im only a casual player in go while i was hardcore gamer in 1.6)
2014-04-04 18:23
#51. same guy i guess
2014-04-04 18:32
ermmm not. i didnt even read that guy comment. so 2 unrelated people tell you to buy a headset or check your sound config/system, maybe you should. make sure to have cs (and windows 7) configured as headset because really sound is pretty ok. Nuke is tricky, i can give you that, i get confused too but i really dont think pro players cant tell the difference.
2014-04-04 20:06
I own steel series siberia V2 with a sound card. I own this thing from the past 2 years, and yeah I've pretty good experience with it. Back then, I used to play CS 1.6, and it's been a year in CSGO. Sound is KEY factor in CS. Yeah, the reason you don't see that as a problem because "you got used to it".
2014-04-04 20:22
so how come that i with worst gear can get where the sounds come from just right? it might be that "you havent got used to it" edit: or have a misconfiguration somewhere. Im just trying to help you realize that IMO the problem is not in the game but somewhere else. In GO i can get where the sounds come from FAR FAR FAR better than in 1.6, miles difference. Not sure if COD have better sound that go for example, but i believe thay must be equal.
2014-04-04 20:58
Play some nuke and inferno, you'll get to know it. It's in the ENGINE. Although, I'm not having problems in hearing or any such thing related in CS1.6 and other games I play. I play games a lot and I only use headphones. I've purchased Sennheiser PC 350 SE a few months ago. And I've issues with sound problem in CSGO. I've asked my friends about this and they say the same thing. There is something wrong with SOUND, that's why majority of the gamers are complaining about it. They love the game, and they want to make to more enjoyable not only for their good but for others dude. If I had a configuration problem why I'm getting positive response from other games related to sound? And No! you don't get sound if your enemy is far far away in CSGO. I can bet on this!. Play nuke map and stay in bombsite A as a terrorist, and tell your mate to go upto CT ladder and run in that small place. Weather he jump or run there you have no idea, cause you can't hear that.
2014-04-05 10:21
i didnt say that i can get sounds that are far away. i sad i can accurately tell where the sounds come from a lot better than in 1.6. The somewhat "short" distance where sounds arent heareble anymore i believe it is intended. I also love the game and want that its the better it possible could, but we are discussing sound and im telling you i dont have issues with it, no more no less.
2014-04-05 20:58
Fault doesn't lies within the game, I agree. It lies within the ENGINE, but for SOUND only. It's quite unpredictable those up and down sounds. About right and left hearing, it's somewhat fine. But they can make it better if they do something with the ENGINE. We all love csgo that's why we want to make it perfect mate.
2014-04-05 21:51
we only want to make 2 things better atm and ASAP! *SOUND *Movement WE (Counter-Strike 1.6 players) just demand these two solid components of csgo to be fixed. Rest will get better from time to time.
2014-04-05 10:30
what do you mean by movement? Are you talking about things like bh\russian walk or things like peeker speed? If you're talking about the second one, then i agree with you, cuz it will balance the game a lot, giving some kind of an advantage to smart & expierenced players. As for the first one, i was upset that they removed bh, but then i just got used to it and honestly i don't see any problem in this. Agree with sound issues though, the up & down are really hard to hear, but the rest are fine. But i totaly disagree with the guys talking about recoil being random. It's actually pretty accurate & predictable, as csgo uses only 1 pattern per weapon.
2014-04-05 11:58
"But i totaly disagree with the guys talking about recoil being random. It's actually pretty accurate & predictable, as csgo uses only 1 pattern per weapon. " Nope mate. It's quite difficult to control. Try AK brust in CS 1.6 and CSGO. You'll find quite a lot difference. Obviously, it would be different because of different game, but it shouldn't be inaccurate or unusual Counter-Strike recoil pattern. I guess that might be due to 64tick servers and 128tick servers. Because I feel better more in 128tick than in 64tick(totally random). Yeah, I say that in my language as "bunny hopes,ducking and yeah peeking speed(was quite helpful and skill killing thingy. Helped a lot in nuke and train maps in CS 1.6). Just trying to make CSGO as competitive as possible. Just like "micronn" did here(really great job dude!). hltv.org/blog/8151-new-movement-values-s.. and this hltv.org/blog/8140-movement-stop-speed-t.. Just give a try mate, I hope that you'll like it if you've played CS 1.6 decently.
2014-04-05 21:53
Recoil is fine. AK is more powerful weapon and have harder recoil. What ruin that recoil is aimpunch with armor, they didn't completely remove it from game.
2014-04-05 21:49
We used tapping or I should say "clicking" in CS 1.6. We used to tap 3 times, 3 bullets from AK in CS1.6 was enough to kill an enemy with armor. And tapping was quite quick in CS1.6. But in CSGO, you have to click once and then you have to give it a pause then you can make a second click for AK. And this is quite risky, it's like DO or DIE situation. And if you try brusting in CSGO it's quite good. Now, I burst 3 to 4 bullets at a time and that helps. I learned all those things that came in CSGO so fast. Hardly took 3 to 4 months. But still if valve can listen to it's original community, the game can get more exciting and more challenging and can gain huge market further. Tapping for M4A4 is somewhat fine, people can get used to it. AK remained best weapon since CS 1.6 dude.
2014-04-05 22:10
WHAT DID YOU SAY FAGGOT ' CS GO BETTER ' ? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, GO KILL UR SELF PLEASE. SOME GOOD CLANS LEFT CS 1.6 MAYBE BUT 1.6 ISNT DEAD. WE STILL HAVE TOURNAMENTS AND MUCH MORE PLAYERS THAN CS GO. DONT SAY CS 1.6 IS DEAD. GAME ISNT BETTER IF IT HAS GRAPHICS BETTER, YOU MUST THINK ABOUT FUN, GAMEPLAY, ALL EMOTIONS WHILE PLAYING 1.6 !
2014-04-04 18:30
^this :p
2014-04-04 18:33
awww
2014-04-04 20:11
"AND MUCH MORE PLAYERS THAN CS GO" - lol.
2014-04-05 11:58
probably nonsteam player detected.
2014-04-05 13:16
yeah, non-steam cs1.6 users.
2014-04-05 13:38
csgo stats from steam - 93,017 130,308 (current/peak) cs 1.6 - 26,644 33,850 (current/peak) so there is like 3x more no-steam players? Doubt that.
2014-04-05 13:42
lol, yeah. Cuz this game works on any low end system like p3,p4 systems.
2014-04-05 13:44
Tell me actual number of non steam 1.6 players so we can compare it ? This is pure guess.
2014-04-05 16:20
Well, I didn't see that coming from VALVE about such counter-strike.
2014-04-05 22:02
There are alot non steam players, but you can't just say there is so much players than csgo have, because you don't know numbers. Also new players will start with csgo, and 1.6 is less and less popular...
2014-04-05 22:06
yeah, i agree with that. But in ASIA, people are still playing CS1.6. They don't bother about CSGO anymore. That's the reason CSGO is gaining numbers, because new players or source players don't have any idea what CS1.6 was about. Well, good luck.
2014-04-05 22:13
#121
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Argentina atriX^ 
I enjoy the game but yes, there are a lot of stuff to be improved. Movement should be tweaked for sure. Train should be redone from scratch to be honest. In this case they should make a carbon copy of 1.6 train (never played source, don't know about its version). Inferno is indeed a very cramped map. Too much shit around but I've got used to it so it doesn't bother me that much anymore. p90 is still way too powerful. Micronn spends time doing tests for movement tweaks and some other good changes. I feel bad for him because he puts a lot of effort into posting proper blogs and threads on reddit only for Valve to completely ignore it. So a thread like this won't accomplish anything.
2014-04-04 18:50
#122
solo | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
I used to play like you and i feel lost now with the shitty sound, the lack of free moves, bunny, duck etc :'( PS : i hope one day they will clean theirs garbage maps.. =)
2014-04-04 19:00
shut up pls don't say anything wronk about stronk csgo strink and it's the best game coz skins make it good i love opening crate
2014-04-04 19:58
^this, unfortunately
2014-04-04 20:00
valve money feeders detected.
2014-04-04 20:25
GET GOOD OR GO HOME
2014-04-04 20:13
1.6 TRAIN OP VALVE TRAIN SUCKZ
2014-04-04 20:15
You should force them, you are the king of hltv you should have connections.
2014-04-04 20:18
king of hltv, shut up!
2014-04-04 20:23
1.6 4ever <3 cs go trash...
2014-04-04 20:58
agree with you King of Hltv
2014-04-04 21:00
1.6 history 10 years :D cs:go fanboys meet here after 8 years bug fixing :D xo xo xo
2014-04-04 21:00
Did you realize that the final version what you guys call "1.6" took 4 years? It was full of bugs until then, not like it's fully fixed.
2014-04-04 22:12
Did you realize that the game was cool from the beginning? And people are still arguing about what version was best (x - 1.6)
2014-04-05 02:51
Movements are just fine. The sound is a bit to good i think. Cs go is fine, stop whine and have a good time.
2014-04-04 21:04
u just med cuz bed
2014-04-04 21:07
1.6 and "I COULD actually hear my enemies properly" i stopped reading there, brb laughing ps: if u are bad just dont play this game lol
2014-04-04 22:09
lol rofl imao
2014-04-05 03:03
CS GO SHIT. :=)
2014-04-04 22:11
Why all the hate on csgo? Its a great game, It have some problems as all other games have... It will never be 1.6 and thank god for that.
2014-04-05 02:28
#154
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Denmark Blankeh 
+1 people just need to stop posting threads like this... and more important people need to stop replying to them.
2014-04-05 02:34
Threads like what? Threads like this improved the game. If we didn't have them, the game would be Counter-Strike Duty Offensive. So shut the hell up please.
2014-04-05 03:01
Definitely not crying threads like this (aka bring 1.6 back)...
2014-04-05 04:10
When he said that? He said "fix this problems". So leg it out.
2014-04-05 04:33
What problems ? Game is not broken. Yes they could change some stuff, but also they can keep game as it is. He basically want peaks and movement to be same as 1.6 because he is used to it, and now he is owned on mm like you (saw you thread when you was spamming to report some guy). Perfect way how to give feedback is what micron does, he gives actual numbers and than he say why is it better that way. There was many good feedbacks (from steam forums and reddit) implemented in game. On hltv we can only see some imature kids saying pls volvo fix dgl and than some shit in capslock (like this mad bosnian). Yeah sure, they will listen to them, right. If you guys want changes you could just create some normal thread with paragraphs and WITHOUT FUCKING CAPSLOCK and shit and say what whould you like to change, why and give numbers. Game was shit in beta, and don't think game is changed because people like you or this hltv king. You just keep spamming stupid threads and keep rolling same shit all time.
2014-04-05 04:48
"owned on mm like you saw you thread when you was spamming to report some guy. " Thats bad.. he was aimbot retard german cheater. He was screaming in mic etc. Add me in steam. Go play with me. cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/57676621136..
2014-04-05 05:03
cs:go is the best cs ever. deal with it
2014-04-05 02:42
userid=442989 the sauce is strong with this one.
2014-04-05 02:50
wait 10 more years and maybe will be a better version of cs then
2014-04-05 03:17
The amount of players, that are satisfied with the current state of the game is stunning, but is to be expected. Unfortunately as the gaming community grows, the average player becomes less and less skilled and less and less interested in improving the game. Most of the games nowadays are just shiny grafics and animations with boring gameplay and are so easy, that even make you feel stupid playing the game. For me CS:GO is a disappointment to say the least. I mean, it's still a fun game, but its not what I've expected from a proper CS successor. But maybe my expectation for the game are too high or I'm just too old for the new generation video games.
2014-04-05 03:24
The real way to mastering GO is to play this before every mix / game. youtube.com/watch?v=4VP5uPXm8Ws It does wonders.
2014-04-05 03:32
"But maybe my expectation for the game are too high or I'm just too old for the new generation video games." Too high expectation? We're talking about Counter-Strike or what?. The best game of all time. Have you seen the CS:GO trailer? It's completely based on a lie. Have you seen the DotA2 trailer? It's completely truthful. Why? Cause VALVE don't care about CS fans (why? who knows). They are updating this game many many many many times slower than Dota2. FPS needs this gameplay updates more than god damn moba.
2014-04-05 03:45
Play hard go pro? oh no no no, for cs go, play tard go pro!
2014-04-05 03:33
#177
Estonia rYm 
the worst thing - Valve wont listen!
2014-04-05 03:40
I know that feel bro, and when im watching hltv comunity and all saying cs go is perfect it's kinda weird.
2014-04-05 03:48
And I hate this animation when some retards shooting while moving with +duck and still can kill players with HeadShots. Looks so bad and foolish extrinsically. Did anyone notice this no recoil shit?
2014-04-05 03:51
"They're chaning the way you can navigate through the scoreboard". Actually lol'd at this. It means that they have finished the game and They are happy with the gameplay result.
2014-04-05 03:53
"Hating when something doesn't stay like it used to be." "Hating when something does change and they are updating games." These young eagles has no idea how to do business.
2014-04-05 08:05
I was placing my bets on the next version of CS, but then skins got released and there shouldn't be any reason for Valve to make a new version of CS considering how much money people have spent and keep spending for skins. gg. Well, not that I think CS 1.6 was a perfect game anyway, but I guess either I have to become even more optimistic or I have to become game developer myself to start digging towards that direction.
2014-04-05 08:22
stop crying if u dont like the game dont play it u ask why people like neo arent as good as they were in 1.6, still he just won the biggest tournament in csgo history, players like f0rest & get_right and many other 1.6er who invested time in this game belong to the best gamers of csgo - if you cant adapt to this game its ur problem, there are many examples that this game isnt that random at all furthermore it may be right that you cant just fuckin outcamp people and let them run in your crosshair (which is in my opinion a progress), still you can play clutch situations pretty good and flashes and smokes are more useful than they were in 1.6 i still like 1.6 more than csgo but that is no reason to complain the whole time and cry
2014-04-05 08:51
game has been out for 1 1/2 years, 1.6 was out for 10. CSS out for 8. ofc it takes time to perfect csgo.
2014-04-05 10:31
bullshit! nice movement (no retarded jumps like 1.6), nice sound (its OK), mirage is awesome map. and you sir a WHINER, play 1.6 and fck off.
2014-04-05 10:35
1.6 players just mad cuz their pc's cant get more than 30 fps on csgo. Csgo is the new counterstrike , 1.6 is dead. Deal with it :)
2014-04-05 11:07
are u retarded, everything has been addressed and more, go back to 1.6 u raging homo
2014-04-05 11:17
everything has been addressed and more Not even close to being close at being closely close.
2014-04-06 23:41
i dont play cs:go the game is too shit for me i cant get myself to downgrade coming from 1.6...only sheeps settle for a inferior game.
2014-04-05 11:22
#223
Spain ewg 
Agree, the sound is shit... Dunno if someone else has noticed, but sometimes i just hear someone stepping so hard at one point of the map, but theres never someone there, a lot of friends have noticed this too.
2014-04-05 12:32
+1 agree
2014-04-05 13:42
#228
dRiim | 
Finland dRiim 
hail to the king baby
2014-04-05 13:40
lol
2014-04-07 01:12
I agree with the fact that its a new game and you have to adapt to it! It is based on Cs:s engine and not HL engine, so for 1.6 players(like me) it's hard to get used to it and accept the facts that mechanics are so poor compare to 1.6(bhop,lj,etc.) The sound is pretty good,but i get confused at nuke too! Counter strike 1.6 made valve big, lets accept it, its a fact. Counter strike source was never "the big deal" for valve. BUT they build their new game based on cs:s engine! That's a little bit dumb i could say! People loved 1.6 because it was UNreal with the movement,wallbanging and things like that. Finally, WoW,LoL,Dota2 cant be hacked. You cant cheat! But why,why,why,why valve didn't made nothing about cheaters at competitive games. I'm a Legendary Eagle and i get cheaters on my games like 30% of the times! Skins doesn't make the game better guys!
2014-04-05 14:22
yeah! and valve doesn't care or I should say worry shit about cs 1.6 users, who made them BIG. bad valve community.
2014-04-06 12:13
#238
Italy rbz 
bla bla bla bla bla
2014-04-05 16:42
That's too late to complain. Play 1.6 or play GO. And please, stop making threads like this. Seriously.
2014-04-05 17:02
This isn't possible, unfortunately. But you can stop making comments. Now that's a solution dude ;)
2014-04-06 12:14
Train could definetly benefit from the addition of pretty flowers.
2014-04-06 03:04
yeah, movement is terrible and maps (well inferno and train) are also bad, but the sound is actually ok, the only time i'm having a hard time hearing ok is on nuke when i'm lower and i don't know if the enemy is above hut or just at the vents and the other way around but on all the other maps i have no problem with the sound. csgo just needs inferno_ce and train_ve , tuscan, decent movement and it's good to go...atleast for me
2014-04-06 12:22
I've a problem with all the sounds in cs:go. I cannot locate where and how far from the sound comes. Every sound from gunfire to running steps I hear them like I make them myself. Even when I'm not moving. Has anyone else had the same problem? Where could this problem originate?, If im on teamspeak or raidcall or skype this happens all the time, but if i turn all of them off and use voice_enable 0 on console i can hear everything right can someone help? Thanks.
2014-04-06 12:53
Your majesty, it is with pleasure to say that the sound is really bad in CS:GO.
2014-04-06 17:56
amen
2014-04-07 01:19
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