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think they need a lineup change just like VirtusPro /ESC/ did with snax and byali. Who in CIS is talented enough to replace a player or two in HellRaisers if we dont account for the NaVi players. /discuss /open /thread
2014-08-19 16:02
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- all + 4 more vladislava, and everything is good
2014-08-19 16:03
Russia vovke 
xD vlada
2014-08-19 16:11
+5* ze perfect cs go team.
2014-08-19 18:14
Germany B34NS 
+ fifflaren
2014-08-19 16:03
Spain akproxx 
Hr core are stupid dont pick guardian for Astana Dragons and next kick edward for kucher
2014-08-19 16:03
Maybe because kucher and adren are better drunkards )))))) If seriously, they playing stupid cs. Angel good sniper, but not good igl Good decision for them - kucher - adren, + flamie + blade
2014-08-19 16:16
AdreN GuardiaN markeloff ANGE1 Dosia Edward starix flamie kucher seized
2014-08-19 16:55
Go die please, with this kind of suggestion.
2014-08-19 17:40
Edward is a god. AdreN, GuardiaN, markeloff, Dosia, flamie
2014-08-19 18:06
angel not good igl? ahahahahahah ahahahahahaha ahahahahahahahaha ahahahahah
2014-08-19 16:56
i dont know who is igl in hr but their igl clearly sucks.their strats are just random calls a/b or simply split pushes and their decision making is horrible
2014-08-19 17:37
ANGE1 is IGL and he sucks nowadays, true.
2014-08-19 17:40
- Kucher + Flamie ez skins ez lyfe
2014-08-19 16:05
kucher is their best player
2014-08-19 16:08
2014-08-19 16:10
I'm not even kidding, both kucher and adren are much more reliable players in GO than marik
2014-08-19 16:12
Poland Marvelm 
Kucher is trash for a long time already, AdreN and dosia are the best by far.
2014-08-19 16:12
omg. da best analyst
2014-08-19 17:19
dosia has been shit , if he can't carry games
2014-08-19 19:48
kucher just like ceh9 was impossibly strong in 1.6 , but suck in go, its right about time for him to retire too.
2014-08-19 16:14
seh9 sucked a lot in 1.6 too. i'm glad he was kicked
2014-08-19 17:20
1.He left on his own. 2. He dont sucked in 1.6 3. Cucumber cant levitate
2014-08-19 17:30
1. he left on his own because he would've got kicked 2. he did suck in 1.6 - but "support" players had a bigger purpose in 1.6 compared to GO. 1.6: Smarts>Aim , GO: Aim>Smarts 3. cucumber can levitate
2014-08-19 18:29
2014-08-19 16:11
Poland Marvelm 
I hope you're kidding.
2014-08-19 16:12
The truth is that kucher has the best rating in 2014 out of HR players. He is the only player in this team that has rating above 1,10
2014-08-19 16:25
2014-08-19 16:11
CIS yeskelaa 
flaime WorldEdit bondik
2014-08-19 16:12
I really don`t think they need a lineup changing, I think, though, that they need someone to bring working method. They are all talented players, however a bit lazy i guess.
2014-08-19 16:12
they all had like 150 hours in past two weeks, not really lazy but not like it helped xd
2014-08-19 16:49
lazy in the sense of making a more professional approach to the game and the opposing teams, tactics rotations, fakes, etc. and not rely solely on aim. No wonder they have all those hours, but it was also the weekend of the ESL ONE and the previous week of preparation. :)
2014-08-19 16:58
Latvia Ke]R[4u 
exactly, they need proper coach/analyst they are stuck with their play style for ages now
2014-08-19 19:12
CIS yeskelaa 
2014-08-19 16:13
They have good players just bad teamplay.
2014-08-19 16:13
I don't think that they take this thing seriously, if they do they'd be much dangerous
2014-08-19 16:14
2014-08-19 16:14
-kucher +flamie/WorldEdit
2014-08-19 16:15
2014-08-19 16:15
-adren +fox (dosia's brother, not the Portuguese one)
2014-08-19 16:16
foxJ > all
2014-08-19 16:17
idk markeloff why play with rifle
2014-08-19 16:17
France x453 
Yeah, if you want to be the best player in the world/be the best team, use your own strengths...
2014-08-19 18:24
flamie best in cis atm
2014-08-19 16:17
Greece cNbt 
2014-08-19 16:18
Where is s1mple? He is monster with awp.
2014-08-19 16:26
in A-Gaming
2014-08-19 16:27
I don't understand .... They have good players, they show up at Cologne with all + 150 hours the past 15 days and they play with no teamplay, just like complete retards ...
2014-08-19 16:43
-adreN +blade blade, kkuch, angel, marik used to play together in 1.6 team. So they'd have really good chemistry..
2014-08-19 16:47
flamie/s1mple/WorldEdit (I think they need a strong awper)
2014-08-19 16:48
Russia vasian 
HR are ok like this but i miss fox very much ^^
2014-08-19 16:51
why -adren ? wtf is with you all ;d
2014-08-19 16:54
-kucher - adren +flamie + worldedit
2014-08-19 17:00
-adren +s1mple
2014-08-19 17:28
i think hr just need a couple of sourcers tbh
2014-08-19 17:33
-all 5 and +putin
2014-08-19 17:34
-adren - kucher +s1mple +worldedit top1
2014-08-19 17:35
Hellraisers new lineup: /discuss /open /thread /close +1
2014-08-19 17:38
HR just needs to play better their individual players are fine. They have more individual talent than a lot of teams who beat them, that is an approach problem not a player problem (unless their igl can't handle the personalities).
2014-08-19 17:39
+1 the team has more than enough fragging ability to beat any team, that's not the problem.
2014-08-19 17:56
Get_RiGhT Dosia Swag Shox Pasha The best lineup 4evah.
2014-08-19 17:44
-pasza +snax/hiko/dupreeh/device/kennyS/olofm/GuardiaN
2014-08-19 18:07
no sniper ?
2014-08-19 19:56
bring back Fox...
2014-08-19 17:44
f0rest | 
World clipse 
flamie maybe?
2014-08-19 18:11
-markeloff or Adren +flamie
2014-08-19 18:18
Kibaken :D
2014-08-19 18:19
I dont think anyone in hellraisers but dosia takes cs really serious at least it seems like that to me, Trudy just try to live the good life
2014-08-19 18:22
Probably *
2014-08-19 18:22
Yeah, Marik playing dota2 too much
2014-08-19 18:46
No lineup change, they just need to work better as team.
2014-08-19 18:24
Latvia Ke]R[4u 
they had 1 year to do it, very unlikely its going to happen with that lineup and other people influence, they are just keep doing same mistakes without any conclusions.
2014-08-19 19:14
All five are absolutely world class individually. Not sure why it isnt working out better for them. Maybe they arnt able to peak at the same time in the important games, maybe their strats isnt working out fully for them. No idea really. Do they play as much as other pro teams?
2014-08-19 18:52
I think they played like 170 hours each before esl cologne. I can't see why doesn't it work either.They are all great, but together they suck.
2014-08-19 19:12
Meh, 170 hours or not, practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. Someday they'll realize GO isn't just an aim-game.
2014-08-19 19:53
I doubt they don't know that, and i also doubt they just went all in aim training in thoose hours. Something's missing, something that nobody knows. Maybe it's the friendship and chemistry like Nip has.
2014-08-19 20:53
flamie worldedit seized dosia fox
2014-08-19 19:06
Russian dreamteam not HR :(
2014-08-19 19:10
2014-08-19 19:14
Markeloff is fucking terrible in GO. kick him.
2014-08-19 19:17
He is great rifler in cs go now
2014-08-19 19:40
not really, but inconsistent yes!
2014-08-19 20:02
+ strike + Johnta
2014-08-19 19:47
-anyone + fox and you have more consistency
2014-08-19 19:49
and everybody still picking worldedit ROFL
2014-08-19 19:52
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