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rain from LC - CHEAT or LUCKY?
Estonia HaiTV 
YouTube: Twitch: Highlight from ENCORE's natu morning stream on 1st september 2014. No sound due to VOD being muted on Twitch, because of the copyrighted content. They were playing matchmaking with a 5 man when this happened and it wasn't the first suspicious noscope by him. Only this one was mid air, shot right before he touched the ground.
2014-09-01 14:15
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Iceland bist 
he got lucky this time + hes very good player
2014-09-01 14:16
Estonia HaiTV 
Yeah, very good player with a 0.88 K/D ratio, being lowest in the team. But perhaps lucky indeed ;)
2014-09-01 14:21
Iceland bist 
i think you mad, rain is very good, check his EMS stats and gfinity gl bro
2014-09-01 14:22
Being the worst on the best team is better than being best at the second best team.
2014-09-01 14:35
he played insane at g3 and pretty god at EMS, so his all time rating is 0.88, but it was 0.72 just some time ago, which says how much he has improved
2014-09-01 15:41
Netherlands xdanny 
talking about fiffy confirmed.
2014-09-01 17:18
fnx | 
Denmark lucas0b 
what is it we never must forget?
2014-09-01 17:51
2014-09-02 23:58
Bet you haven't even seen him play. He's a very good entry fragger and arguably the best player on LC. His aim is incredibly good.
2014-09-02 23:59
Compared to your K/D against pro teams... idiot
2014-09-03 10:37
You do realize people can be lucky? :) Yea it looks suspecious, but it's not proof of cheat :P
2014-09-01 14:17
Germany yljah 
8-11 clearly cheating..
2014-09-01 14:17
Pure luck
2014-09-01 14:18
2014-09-01 14:18
freddieb | 
Sweden carvin 
Stop accusing pros for stupid shit like that, noscopes are mostly random and why would he cheat on a morning stream where i guess they played mm(?) Didnt watch the video yet tho
2014-09-01 14:20
No one is accusing, simply questioning lol. There has been a lot of pros caught cheating, so I wouldn't say it's "stupid shit". Also, if you'd watch the video you can see, that it's a REALLY lucky shot indeed. Also his entire team was talking about it on TeamSpeak and team chat, saying things like "rip rains account..." and stuff :p
2014-09-01 14:24
they are definitely joking.Are u stupid man?
2014-09-01 14:33
rip estonian brain
2014-09-01 17:11
you are taking this way too serious
2014-09-01 14:45
why would you question that besides being an absolute lifeless retard? Just asking though, no need to be agressive :P:Ppp/pmPPppPPpP
2014-09-01 19:29
It looks like luck but you never know. Worth keeping an eye on him in future matches.
2014-09-01 14:22
Did you forget a "Kappa" at the end there?
2014-09-01 14:28
No, I'm keeping an open mind. Like I said, it's probably luck, but since you can't prove it how can you know?
2014-09-01 14:31
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Russia lamp` 
2014-09-01 14:33
No luck nor hacks Skill on the other hand ;)
2014-09-01 14:26
Noscopes aren't skills... Was a lucky, but nice shot.
2014-09-01 14:30
lmao 1 luck shot = he cheats sounds about right..
2014-09-01 14:29
Read 1st post maybe. *facepalm*
2014-09-01 14:30
Then why do you even question it? "CHEAT or LUCKY?" *facepalm*
2014-09-01 14:31
Questioning is a major form of human thought and interpersonal communication. The thinker employs a series of questions to explore an issue, an idea or something intriguing. Questioning is the process of forming and wielding that series to develop answers and insight. tl;dr I'm questioning, because we can't be sure if this was lucky or use of a cheat and I'm looking to develop answers and insight. I understand he's from Norway and so are you, but that doesn't change the fact. No need to get defensive.
2014-09-01 14:37
To question a luckshot is just plain stupid, and it doesn't matter what country i'm from, everyone SHOULD be able to see that's luck.
2014-09-01 14:58
Whatever floats your boat xD
2014-09-01 15:04
"The thinker employs a series of questions to explore an issue, an idea or something intriguing." Are you trying to sound smart or something? "I'm questioning, because we can't be sure if this was lucky or use of a cheat and I'm looking to develop answers and insight." Are you for real? You're looking to develop answers and insight? It's basically a yes/no question, or rather a no/no. And you're the only one who thinks he would cheat. Either way, my opinion is clearly biased due to my origin. But hell, for the sake of the, ugh, discussion. If he were to cheat, this is not something that would've happened. You don't play bad to hide cheat, only to hit a midair awp shot.
2014-09-01 15:45
I'm not trying to "sound smart or something" it was a direct copy-paste for the meaning of "questioning" from Wikipedia. I'm 100% positive, I'm not the only one who thinks he would cheat. Why would he play bad to hide cheat, he would obviously play at his best and use the cheat to gain "extra". As for the midair awp shot, everyone makes mistakes. It is within human nature to make mistakes. As for the rest of your bullshit about "yes/no" questions, I'm not gonna waste any more of my time to explain you how this is not a "yes/no" question, simply cause you don't have the facts.
2014-09-01 15:55
Let me speak your language; A fact is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is, whether it can be demonstrated to correspond to experience. So, what you're saying is that you have the facts, in which this case is no longer a yes/no question, but a... wait, it's no longer a question. Dayum, this shit just became a statement. Mother of god, I'm so sorry I didn't read the prof of cheat you gave me in the OP. Forgive me, my bad.
2014-09-01 16:19
O M G, you're fucking dumb
2014-09-01 16:58
I agree they are fucking dumb
2014-09-03 00:19
Did twitch mute this? God dammit..
2014-09-01 14:32
you must be uber crap to think thats cheat
2014-09-01 14:34
done that myself i dont cheat... pure luck
2014-09-01 14:34
Germany welp 
cs:go shots are based on randomness
2014-09-01 14:36
i don't think pro players would cheat because of just one match to ruin their reputation, that's silly btw insane shot from him gj
2014-09-01 14:37
Even a nobody like me can do stuff like that; Besides it also looks like he lands exactly when he fires. Might be wrong on that one, but to me he seems to land on the edge of that platform as he fires.
2014-09-01 14:38
2014-09-01 14:42
I was thinking the same, but the fact that his crosshair is right on the enemy as he fires is odd. I thought he shot the moment he landed as well, but I looked it over at a 10% speed, just to be sure and he was still in air. In your video, you weren't aiming at the enemy exactly, just saying :D
2014-09-01 14:43
Finland FRGVN 
why is it odd that he was aiming at the enemy? lol that's what everyones trying to do even without the scope -_-
2014-09-01 15:27
Because about 99.99% of the time you shoot unscoped the bullet goes another direction NOT the direction you aim. Try reproducing the same thing on an offline server with bots at the same distance, shooting awp without scoping. Make sure to use sv_showimpacts 1 GLHF!
2014-09-01 15:45
Finland FRGVN 
yeah but the thing that he had his crosshair on him doesnt make it odd, the shot landing in to the crosshair was.. and as u said it is possible and statistically it will happen at times..
2014-09-01 15:54
Statistically you have a better chance hitting noscopes whilst aiming off enemy, rather than aiming on enemy.
2014-09-01 15:56
Finland FRGVN 
statistically you actually have the exact same chance of hitting it dead center to ur crosshair compared to some other point u r trying to hit with that is the same size as ur crosshair. if u fill ur fov with crosshairs and pick the one in the middle and any other from your screen and try like 1000000 shots u have 50/50 chance to hit the middle one first. --edit-- and yes I do get what u mean but u have to have some reference point to aim with, if u try to aim off target(where do u actually aim?) slightly top left of ur enemy always? well thats ur crosshair spot in this case :) you might aswell just try to hit it with the reference point u usually have and just hope luck is on ur side more often than not.
2014-09-01 16:04
HAHAHA you're mentally attacked that's a guarantee, this thread is a good laugh holy fuck
2014-09-01 19:32
Norway duffz00r 
done that, nothing to discuss here, clearly lucky paw paw shoots :]
2014-09-01 15:03
To everyone thinking that I most certainly accuse him of cheating: It was a suspicious shot, doesn't matter if it was lucky or not. It most likely was, but you can't be certain and I honestly don't care. Just wanted you guys to see it xD No reason to get butthurt + how else am I suppost to get tons of views to my video, without mentioning a pro player and "cheats" in a title Kappa
2014-09-01 15:07
what was suspicious about it? did you ever use cheats before? as far as I know from experience there are no cheats that improve awp weapon spread so it's gonna be random from that distance even with aimbot... like so:
2014-09-01 15:21
>there are no cheats that improve awp weapon spread Yeah, there are :D
2014-09-01 15:32
I knew it, you h4x0r! :D
2014-09-01 15:59
You got me :/
2014-09-01 16:04
Time is money man WTF UR DOING
2014-09-01 17:16
2014-09-01 15:10
Ukraine rim 
2014-09-01 15:11
really insane
2014-09-01 15:11
It's actually quite suspicious. - It looks like he's still in the air while shooting. - It looks like his crosshair was on the guy and unscoping at that distance is random enough, but if he was jumping while doing it... honestly feels like a nospread triggerbot. No idea buddy, might be luck but it's abit weird tho. Rain looks like a great player on the other hand and he did well at Gfinity, that doesn't mean he wouldn't cheat online from time to time tho.
2014-09-01 15:23
+1 or could just be a really lucky shot :D People just seem to think that pro players don't cheat, but there is more then enough proof that they do, a lot of players have been caught. I can't use this as an argument, just because of that 1 shot, but just saying. The amount of people using cheats in general is disgusting.
2014-09-01 15:38
hackur, volvo plx ban. Kappa
2014-09-01 15:24
Norway kakkopp 
Haha dat shot
2014-09-01 15:39
lol ez he flicked right to him cuz he has a dot on the screen marked with a marker Kappa
2014-09-01 15:45
"its pure skill" lmfao retards in here
2014-09-01 15:54
Finland natu 
Haha, obviously just a random lucky shot. No need to stir up unnecessary discussion.
2014-09-01 15:55
Norway stbb 
2014-09-01 16:19
He's not cheating, rly.
2014-09-01 17:14
Time is money, WTF UR DOING. do something usefull
2014-09-01 17:16
hack 0 doubt
2014-09-01 17:17
cheat. idiot
2014-09-01 18:50
no, you are obviously the idiot for thinking that. everyone gets a random kill like that over time.
2014-09-01 19:49
lol its not even a question if he's cheating or not. he's a pro player, why would he ever cheat on MM ? stupid you+guywhoopenedthethread
2014-09-01 19:50
solo | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
he has a trigger in the mouse ! spotted x3429832
2014-09-01 18:53
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2014-09-01 20:00
+1 confirmed to use the same cheats as roman
2014-09-02 23:53
"They were playing matchmaking" - end of discussion, can't judge anything on that random pile of wank
2014-09-03 00:01
Can't even believe the comments on this site, sometimes it's worse than youtube.
2014-09-03 00:01
2014-09-03 00:49
I guess you've never turned around 180 for a kill before.
2014-09-03 09:53
good crosshair placement with a bunch of luck
2014-09-03 00:55
at gfinity and ems he has like the 2nd or 1st highest rating, just online is plays bad. (less motivation?)
2014-09-03 01:55
Meh, it was a lucky shot unlike roman from yesterday
2014-09-03 10:13
2014-09-03 10:39
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