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South Africa NoVACbansPlease This video displays where chrisJ was playing really lousy in the EPS. Since he played alot previously online, and couldn't get unused to the fact that his wallhack didn't exist in CS:GO. ESWC 2012, his first LAN 0.782 K/D (4 maps) 21 frags, 20 deaths de_mirage_ce 14 frags, 19 deaths, de_nuke_se (NIP) 7 frags, 18 deaths, de_train_se 19 frags, 21 deaths, dust2 NorthCon, his 2nd LAN 0.814 K/D, 3 maps total 14 frags, 20 deaths nuke (NIP) 11 frags, 20 deaths mirage_ce 23 frags, 19 deaths mirage_ce Raidcall EMS ONE Fall Finals 3rd LAN 0.694 K/D 2 maps total 11 frags, 18 deaths (VP) inferno 14 frags, 18 deaths dust2 EMS One Katowice European Finals 4th LAN 1.357 (with 2 lowseed, h2k / wizards) 8 maps 18 frags, 10 deaths nuke, (bo3, lowseed 32 frags, 23 deaths mirage, (bo3, lowseed 15 frags, 18 deaths train (bo3, vs Reason) 21 frags, 20 deaths nuke (bo3, vs Reason) 22 frags, 18 deaths nuke (bo3, lowseed 24 frags, 15 deaths dust2 (bo3, lowseed 19 frags, 14 deaths train (bo3, Property) 24 frags, 11 deaths nuke (bo3, Property) GFinity LAN 5th LAN - 0.719 8 maps total 14 frags, 4 deaths, mirage 8 frags, 13 deaths, de_cache (VP) 11 frags, 22 deaths, mirage 5 frags, 17 deaths, mirage (titan) 10 frags, 19 deaths, dust2, (dignitas) 18 frags, 21 deaths, mirage (fnatic bo3) 18 frags, 16 deaths, dust2 (fnatic bo3) 13 frags, 23 deaths, inferno (fnatic bo3) Average offline: 0.8732 K/D Median offline: 0.782 K/D Total K/D 1.21 if internet & LAN included. Difference between his total performance and LAN performance. Numbers of maps on LAN is 25 maps if you exclude CPH Games & EPS 0.782 - 1.210 which is a whopping 0,428 difference from the total. 0.428 K/D, on the internet, he performs more than 1/3 better -- Contenta: Either chrisJ has some serious LAN-scare going on, or he's cheating. These stats are all statistics created from his LAN-venues. I excluded EPS since it's pretty low competition and chrisJ got players like allu and LEGIJA. Here's an interview ironically of how chrisJ in 1.6 mentions that he was heavily accused together with luosrevo, who then became convicted of cheating in CS. This is a clear indication that chrisJ isn't clean since why would he mention such bullshit as accusations in a clear interview. He describes a sequence
2014-10-23 16:26
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get a life
2014-10-23 16:29
Germany Skur 
2014-10-23 17:14
and all this time for a crappie post :D hahahaha seriously how freaking freaky can people be . Dude you are 1 of the serious dmged people on hltv here.
2014-10-23 19:12
Germany fjdeN 
ha and ems europe finals on lan Kappa ha brain on pls
2014-10-23 19:16
Germany Lifant 
2014-10-23 22:21
Germany B34NS 
xD^^ nolifer
2014-10-23 16:30
Netherlands slaYn 
That interview you mentioned at the end was just after dropping a 40 bomb against ESC (kalle, karrigan, moddi, pronax & BARBAR). So he probably felt that he redeemed himself.
2014-10-23 16:32
You are not the first one saying this, you are the first who spend the time on it^
2014-10-23 16:35
United Kingdom tiimo 
online = he is at home, can smoke a few joints, get relaxed and into his flow. on LAN - he cant smoke, isnt in the same mindset or condition that he usually plays under, and it obviously doesnt work for him.
2014-10-23 16:36
Or maybe.... you know. LAN plays differently to online and he cannot compete that well on LAN??? Sorry, but until he is proven guilty, statistics dont mean anything. Of course he could be cheating, but stats dont say a lot.
2014-10-23 16:36
As I said before, he's either using a really expensive private cheat or he's just the biggest onliner in the scene.
2014-10-23 16:41
If you have enough money you can buy private hacks that will stay undetected for at least some years. Private builds uniquely made for you.
2014-10-23 22:03
proves what exactly? thats right, nothing.
2014-10-23 16:41
He played more LAN's then this, and had great results. Stop being such a hater, he'd have been vac'd already.
2014-10-23 16:43
No. If you buy unique builds made only for you, you could stay undetected either forever or just for many years. I imagine a unique hack that runs in kernel mode (ring0/driver level) could stay undetected from the start to the end of GO, but it would cost 1k + dollars I think.
2014-10-23 22:05
This thread... jeeeeeeeeeeezez
2014-10-23 16:44
I like how you left out CPH games
2014-10-23 16:45
Copenhagen games 2013?
2014-10-23 16:50
Denmark wezx 
Well done sir! For a long time i had in mind to do this thing. Cuz when you see chrisJ on the internet he does some insane stuff that he never do on lan. I was spectating him at the German Lan finals and he was shit compare to the level he's showing online. Please have a look on his demos from events and compare them with the demos from online. No doubt at all.. ChrisJ is cheating4sho!
2014-10-23 16:51
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it an 8/8 plz don't h8
2014-10-23 16:54
Your Contenta: Either chrisJ has some serious LAN-scare going on, or he's cheating. These stats are all statistics created from his LAN-venues. My Contenta: He just isnt able to buy pot outside the Netherlands, which obviously affects his gameplay. #yolo
2014-10-23 16:55
dude getting weed is easy everywhere
2014-10-23 16:59
2014-10-23 17:05
dude, maybe in your country you can buy it on the streets, if someone doesnt buy you as a slave first
2014-10-23 17:07
y u hatin on luxemburg ive bought weed all over europe its fucking easy
2014-10-23 17:10
sry, sry for insultes
2014-10-23 17:09
we dont consider it "weed" what they are smoking
2014-10-23 17:50
People take it to casually that he performs better while stoned. Don't you realize pot is illegal in all sports, regardless of whether you are from the Netherlands or not? The only reason why it isn't specifically banned from eSports yet is that eSports isn't developed enough to be regulated by WADA (world anti-doping organization), but in the future it very likely will be. Just like Chess has gotten, etc. So I guess that if chrisJ is still around by then, he will just have to quit or get banned for doping.
2014-10-23 22:09
you compare the kd of 25 maps on lan with like 200 maps online?
2014-10-23 16:55
Maybe if he didn't lan-dodge as much, he would have many more maps to base his statistics on?
2014-10-23 22:10
He might be cheating, but still we can't do anything about it
2014-10-23 16:57
chrisJ basically
2014-10-23 16:58
Maybe he has stage fright?? anyway imo he isnt cheating
2014-10-23 16:59
you must have so much free time for doing all these researches. get a job / get a life
2014-10-23 17:01
Wow .. your stupid right? there is some players who plays alot better online then at lan you do know that right? At lan your more nervous and alot of people are watching you from behind even i have experienced that nervous feeling during lans like at Dreamhack and Swedish Masters people standing behind you and watching. He isnt cheating he is good. JW got caught cheating though and i bet he is still cheating
2014-10-23 17:02
Ireland sekke 
Don't call people stupid if you can't tell the difference between your and you're. :)
2014-10-23 18:26
I think chrisJ is the most extreme example we have ever seen of players who perform a lot better online than offline.
2014-10-23 22:12
Norway kakkopp 
THe best players realy shine true at lans,he might get there later :) his stats should be higher online cuz they meet alot of weaker opponents than at most of the lans.
2014-10-23 17:12
who cares about this... ESEA and ESWC will show u the J
2014-10-23 17:04
i'll come back to you in a couple of weeks, patriot.
2014-10-23 22:13
Dude i only play after smoking weed and i play WAY better then when im not. I get the "sense" when i smoke, no joke :D my average kd when im sober is 1 when im high its atleast 1.3. i can imagine that this fact alone can(if he is like me in that regard) drop the kd and overall skill immensly, even though i know you wont get it ;)
2014-10-23 17:07
true shit! been doing the same for awhile, even tho it's kinda stupid :> skill usually goes worse when sober. Atleast when it's a habit. Gief LAN in Holland and we will see the true J ;)
2014-10-23 22:53
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Yugoslavia bleaq 
Yes, this confirms everything. Volvo ban pls.
2014-10-23 17:07
chrisJ is a superstar online but is okey on lan .. as i said there is onliners and there are laners and there is both
2014-10-23 17:08
mouz should cut him every time they go play tournaments since he's complete garbage at playing on LAN, but there's no way he's cheating
2014-10-23 17:10
Hes a great awper u know, when big teams go to a LAN, they will bring out the stratbook. Online they save strats etc so its easy for chrisJ. LAN is very different.
2014-10-23 17:10
Germany Chris Walker 
Where's cph games?
2014-10-23 17:12
#NoVacBansPlease, why do u hate him? seems you got something agaisnt him
2014-10-23 17:12
cph games 2013 also remember KQLY who had always been called onliner before he managed to show solid play on some lans. same with chrisJ, he will probably step up in future, it was for far too long him not playing on lans except the Gfinity
2014-10-23 17:15
fxy0 was widely considered a cheetah/onliner by 99% of HLTV until he attended LANs with Epsilon
2014-10-23 20:16
cph games is byoc, anyone can cheat there.
2014-10-23 22:14
wow dude, pathetic way to "prove" that chrisJ is cheating by showing his LAN performance is weaker than his internet performance. the only fact u showed is that he isnt a great LAN player - yet. this could have many reasons like inexperience, nervousness or some kind of uncomfortable in unknown enviroments. this isnt the first player who performs worse on LAN, its happening to quite alot of people.
2014-10-23 17:15
chrisj is good in netherlands netherlands has weed chrisJ is weed LAN has no weed
2014-10-23 17:16
then he needs to man the fuck up and start bringing weed with him cook a few cakes before leaving ez pz
2014-10-23 17:22
"Either chrisJ has some serious LAN-scare going on, or he's cheating." tell us something we didnt know good job with the stats though
2014-10-23 17:21
i love this thread
2014-10-23 17:24
Are you gonna pretend to bust more players in the future?
2014-10-23 17:25
I thought it was common knowledge that most high level germs are cheating? guess not.
2014-10-23 17:27
Unless there is a VAC ban, these wallhack accusations against a semi-pro player are pointless. The comfort of playing at home, nerves and all that is just too big a factor in order to condemn one. It's like with Colon where someone tried to use a bugged HLTV demo as proof of him using wallhack. You can suspect it all you want - I personally find chrisj very very suspicious, but like I said, these videos don't work as evidence. It's like saying, "Usain Bolt was running way too fast, it makes no sense so he must have been using steroids at some point". Unless you have a positive blood sample or in this case a VAC ban, these threads are pointless.
2014-10-23 17:28
Sweden FiffylaureN 
Since emilio was caught cheating, everyone is suspecting everyone. Like seriously, live it to the pros or leave it to Valve.
2014-10-23 17:31
Are you new? People have suspected chrisJ and made threads about him being a cheater since long before anyone outside of Sweden even knew who emilio was.
2014-10-23 22:18
his actual kd offline = .95 if you add all his kills/deaths together
2014-10-23 17:32
#116 nice math lel
2014-10-23 22:18
It's been established/common knowledge for a long time now that he's a cheater, just from his performance online vs lan and the statements of people around him.
2014-10-23 17:34
Ever heard of the phrase "Correlation does not imply causation"? You have to understand the limits of what can be inferred from the information at hand. Btw, you said that the 1.210 K/D is his total, internet + LAN. I'm assuming that's correct since HLTV shows his overall K/D as 1.22. Why would you use his LAN + online K/D to compare to his LAN K/D and call that the difference between his online and LAN play?
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2014-10-23 17:43
that was interesting to read, although hard to believe that he is cheating
2014-10-23 17:45
hes not cheating.. he was always legit :)
2014-10-23 17:48
have u ever considered the fact that when u are at home, u feel more comfortable to play?
2014-10-23 17:54
Hungary adzeii 
So other pros at LAN feel just as comfortable as at home?
2014-10-23 23:27
I dunno bout his ingame hax but his picture is a hax for sure. IRL he is as wide as snorlax, with the height of an oldskool hummer, and i mean army-hummer not that urban-city bs, turned up side down, with hands the size of an avarage large pepperoni pizzabox. In these hands he holds a Steel KANA, a Logitech mx518 and on during the weekends cans of beer that contain an avarage of 4 hectoliters. Thats why his aim is superiour. If only LAN had bigger tables so chris could setup and sit properly.. he would be as consistent there aswell. PS. He also has a big fat mustache of glory dangling under his epic footsize nose. Just sayin'
2014-10-23 17:56
chrisJ <3 Vacation
2014-10-23 17:59
haha this gave me a laugh xD
2014-10-23 18:05
Netherlands K1NGBOAZ 
One time I was at wzzrd Utrecht with Joostum and I saw that Chrisj was using wh when practicing with his teammates. After that I never trusted him again. So obvious cheatinK. Chrisj when u see this CHEATER
2014-10-23 18:05
Netherlands Nieroth 
*I got rid of EPS because he did better then expected, also will I try to make it look like the lan in here in which he was the best awper statistic wise doesn't count* Good topic man.
2014-10-23 18:07
So you decided to take out EPS and CPH because he did good there to make ur claim look more credible and true. What a fucking joke. Why didn't you decide to remove all shit teams he played online aswell then? You may have good points, but the way you present them makes you look like a idiot, stupid and someone with low iq.
2014-10-23 18:15
No. He took out EPS because the level of skill there is so low that it doesn't compare to the teams the plays online. And he took out CPH Games because it's a BYOC where anyone can cheat, and several people already have. And without any consequences.
2014-10-23 22:23
Your statistical evaluation is seriously flawed. First of all 25 maps aren't enough to get reliable numbers. With only 25 maps played on lan a few "off days" which happen in all sports to all players will massively distort the numbers you will get, at least compared to the 250+ maps played online. Secondly you will meet a much higher quality of teams on LAN (mostly finals) than you will meet on your average online game, thusly your LAN numbers will most likely inevitably be lower than your general stats. Quality of opposition does matter. Also CS is a team game. So your own stats don't only rely on your performance alone but also on the performance of your team in general. If your team gets obliterated on the other side of the map and you constantly get flanked trying to rotate for example you won't be having stellar stats. So how is the rest of Mousesports performing on LAN? How is their statisticial drop off? Last point is that ChrisJ is an AWPer facing tough opposition on lan where you will struggle more to string rounds together/survive with more members to get your economy going he will most likely don't have as many rounds with an AWP than what he would like. How many rounds on average does he have an AWP on LAN how many rounds on average online? There are so many relevant factors, that you haven't looked at, that your numbers pretty much mean nothing. And that's without going into the psychology of a lan final and some players obviously not dealing well with pressure or the environment of the situation. That doesn't mean, that ChrisJ isn't a cheater, he very well might be, I don't know, your statsitical evaluation doesn't mean anything though, sorry.
2014-10-23 18:21
Would have been more than 25 maps if he didn't dodge lans so extremely much.
2014-10-23 22:23
onlineJ is a cheater end of story!
2014-10-23 18:28
bramz | 
Tunisia bramzz 
only germans & netherlands guys defend chrisJ lol
2014-10-23 18:38
chrisJ vacban incoming #hltvconfirmed
2014-10-23 18:56
Why are so many people blaming lack of smoking weed? Has he said he's always baked when he plays or something? Cause whenever I smoke and play I usually do worse than normal, only sometimes I'm able to get in the zone and play well while high. PS I don't believe he's cheating. Used to think he was dirty but.. there are other pro's out there who look way more suspicious. But the weed excuse is just stupid guys.
2014-10-23 19:00
he's dutch, and thus a joke... how can you be that dense..
2014-10-23 19:16
no, a lot of people actually mean that when they say it. because some hltv users apparently play a lot better when high. but another dutchie who knows chrisj has already confirmed in this topic that he doesn't do any drugs.
2014-10-23 22:25
Numerous reasons why someone would play better online than offline. Has nothing to do with cheats... Get a life m8
2014-10-23 19:02
And how can you know that it doesn't have anything to do with cheats? You are just assuming when you say that, just like the OP.
2014-10-23 22:25
It's pretty funny that NoVACbansPlease is wasting so much time for nothing.
2014-10-23 19:13
Lol i love all these accusations about chrisJ hacking... Have you ever played that angle you can barely notice if its a ct or a t. I know he could've watched the mini map but that didn't happen in that situation since he was focusing more on the frag. Did you see the 2 other kills after? Those where quite good by being surrounded by t's he could've easily get none of those Edit: And most of the team kills where just lack of communication Basically both of legija. ChrisJ prefires that spot quite a lot and most awpers do. Legija just went and stand in front of him. After the kill on legija on D2 he still get two really crucial frags. And you saying that he cheats. The one of tabsen was quite unlucky
2014-10-23 19:28
In all seriousness though, they play like a mix team with 1 or 2 strats and no teamplay.. He's either hitting all his shots or doing nothing because of how they play and since they come up against teams who are prepared on LAN and play good CS if he isn't hitting everything he won't show those stats since they don't really have any backup plan, and even if he does there will be people there to trade him getting that kill or stopping it from happening at all Online teams don't play so serious, he can get 1 or 2 kills without the other team trading him instantly or even stopping him getting a chance to.. So their mix style works a lot better when teams aren't showing all their "real" strats and positions so they don't get scouted out before the next LAN.. tldr; their mix style of going 1 by 1 and trying to outaim people works better online than LAN
2014-10-23 19:22
He can easily prove himself by playing great offline events. But no.
2014-10-23 19:25
You can't compare online and offline stats, Online can they often play against kinda bad/mediocore teams and will get a rly good rating. Then on lan there is only topteams so ofc the rating will be lower. such logic much wow.
2014-10-23 19:26
1) You deliberately chose tournaments where he did not perform well. 2) You should compare his performance to his team's. How much above average is he online, and how much below @ lan?
2014-10-23 20:06
1) He didn't include EPS because the levle of skill there is ridiculously low. Online he's playing tier 1 teams all the time, while EPS is german teams that are tier 4 worldwide. CPH Games wasn't included because it's a BYOC where anyone can cheat without it having any consequences.
2014-10-23 22:28
Netherlands jen5on 
your tier 4 eps teams were beating tier 1/tier 2 worldwide teams in DH winter qual :)
2014-10-23 22:53
So you are drawing the assumption that he is either extremely uncomfortable on lan or cheating. As there is no evidence of him cheating,as far as i know, we have to go with the explanation that he just can not get into his zone/mood/gear/whatever when he is not in his comfort zone.
2014-10-23 20:13
You are not lan scared with that experience he got.. He's just low on self Esteem and using cheat to feel good.. It's annoying it cant be proved though.
2014-10-23 20:19
Who cares? If he cheats he will get busted, if not he wont. Easy as that. Why would someone waste their time looking at stupid statistics?
2014-10-23 20:24
Ofc his online stats are inflated because instead of NiP he's playing against some shit tier teams in online qualis etc.
2014-10-23 21:22
No, he's actully playing vs top teams like fnatic, nip and ldlc more often online than offline.
2014-10-23 22:29
how can you have the energy?
2014-10-23 22:13
It's easy if you're unemployed
2014-10-23 22:21
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
if you can't reach top , then stop
2014-10-23 22:20
Portugal maguire 
what a fucking ridiculous thread
2014-10-23 22:27
The best thing chrisj could do at this point is to come out and admit that he has serious social anxiety or whatever it is if he actually does. And also to seek some psychiatric help if that is the case, as it would help him both perform better and live a better life.
2014-10-23 22:31
Sure, you can use those numbers as proof that he is cheating. On the other hand maybe LAN environment really affects him. I remember a blog Carn/Carnac/someone (can't remember his name, he is from france) wrote about his lan experience in sc2. He came to korea from france to compete in gsl. He practiced like maniac and was really hopeful. When he came to the venue he realized that chair position didn't suit him in a way he was accustomed to. Also the place for his hands was smaller. Second time the venue was so cold he was freezing etc. All in all he tried 3 times and failed every time because the conditions there were a lot different than the ones he was accustomed to so it affected his performance there. Just food for thought.
2014-10-23 22:45
I'll never buy it that chrisJ cheats. Sure he sucks on LAN but he has his rounds where he can go nuts and that shows right there. Most inconsistent LAN player but who gives a fuck?
2014-10-23 23:37
2014-10-24 02:51
need weed on lan thats all chrisj with weed wat a beast he is
2014-10-24 03:49
2014-10-24 03:58
2014-10-24 04:04
It's pretty logical that you can, or will perform worse at LAN. The pressure of doing your best in a place there people can spectate, cameras filming or taking photographs, and the overall LAN-ambiance can worsen your performance. Only if you're not completely used to it that is.
2014-10-24 04:08
anyone being critical of OP for time spent researching this should consider that they are browsing and posting on the forums while telling someone how to better spend their time
2014-10-24 04:21
chrisJ lan and chrisj online 2 different players... Cmon chrisJ show us some skill and magic reading opponents
2014-10-24 04:46
the only thin that is proofed in this thread is how many children we have in
2014-10-24 05:10
Holy fuck get a life dude :D this shit is beyond sad.
2014-10-24 05:17
chrisJ best you jelly bro?
2014-10-24 05:23
why is swag good on online and bad on lan ha? same thing is with chrisJ
2014-10-24 05:23
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