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Krimz just tweeted gg
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
twitter.com/krimzCSGO/status/53941007784.. I have a sneaking suspision that this has something to do with someone quitting or the team disbanding.
2014-12-01 14:35
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#1
Denmark fAte/ 
gg
2014-12-01 14:36
And Devilwalk wrote on his twitter: I stand by my word , when all of u figure out what u have done...I pray to GOD u can live with yourselves! I think someone cant handle the pressure. This community is so toxic.
2014-12-01 14:44
Weak spines, they brought it on themselves.
2014-12-01 15:12
Not really, NBK brought it on them. He's the one who lied and slandered them until basically everyone on the internet hated them...
2014-12-01 15:31
Yeah, because the hate threads here didn't start as soon as that game was done. Please...
2014-12-01 15:59
-fnatic +fiffy pls
2014-12-01 19:21
so we are blaming NBK now???? we all know that this will happen to Fnatic sooner or later, WE ALL AGREE THAT THE BOOST WAS UNFAIR and the community agrees on it. its best you blame each and everyone of us rather than pointing it to 1 man. we all love this game the reason why we made action as soon as we saw something was not right. KUDOS TO THE COMMUNITY for stepping up.
2014-12-01 16:59
NBK the leader of the internet.
2014-12-01 20:15
This is so true and needs to be underlined more. NBK is the worst role model I have ever seen. Anywhere, ever.
2014-12-01 22:40
+1 In gameing yes
2014-12-02 16:39
wow you've totally slandered NBK here.
2014-12-02 00:38
Yeah, lets shit on some more people and or teams, the VACation stick-up-your-ass train must NEVER STOP.
2014-12-02 00:54
+1
2014-12-02 16:39
+1. I remember fnatic fanboys calling LDLC 'crybabies'. What's up now? It turns out that fnatic are even worse 'crybabies' than LDLC. They're the ones responsible for the hate they received, because they played dirty. Btw, I don't justify people who send death threats and stuff to fnatic players. And come on, they're fucking 20 yo, it's time to grow up and understand that you shouldn't bother about all the stuff written about you in the Internet. Look at Fifflaren for example, he was hated for 2 years. But did you see him crying about kids mocking him on HLTV? Lol, nope.
2014-12-01 15:45
They didn't play dirty. They agreed to play a rematch, wtf is wrong with you?
2014-12-01 16:00
Using this boost was already a dirty play. Come on, do you seriously think that a team of that caliber didn't understand that this position was actually a bug and gamebreaking? It would be fair (FOR ME) if they did a rematch from 12-3 score.
2014-12-01 16:04
#258
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Sweden Kasidro 
Your logic is so flawed.
2014-12-01 16:13
So you really believe that they didn't know this god spot was game-breaking? I don't believe in all these 'AIMLOCK' accusations, but using this bug was dirty imo.
2014-12-01 16:16
They wouldnt have used the spot if they knew it'd result in a rematch.
2014-12-01 16:17
Considering that it took 6 (!) hours to make the decision, I'm not surprised that they thought they could get away with this. Compare that to fnatic's protest (about LDLC using immortal boost), where admins made the decision in 30 minutes. I don't want to accuse anyone, but it's a clear bias imo.
2014-12-01 16:25
#294
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Sweden Kasidro 
I'm perfectly sure they knew how good it was. That's not the point however
2014-12-01 16:33
well that's your opinion, in the end they realized what they have done and forfeited the match. but people hates them anyway up until now.
2014-12-01 16:16
I bet that the only people that really HATE them now are the ones who actually believe that fnatic are cheaters. Yeah, I agree that the hate should stop already, but fnatic and players themselves should've answered all these accusations in the first place, instead of mocking people in twitter (like flusha did).
2014-12-01 16:22
mocking people in twitter? which one? Why would they just talked "blahblahblah i aint cheating mate" when he can proof it in biggest LAN tournament ever?
2014-12-01 16:23
For example, flusha tweeted something like 'haha HLTV never fails to amuse me', ofc some people got angry and it played a part in all this shitstorm. Btw, I think that if it wasn't for fnatic players being cocky and immature sometimes, it would never resulted in such a big hate wave they received. For example, look at DH Bucharest 2013. They got 'cheated' by NiP and instantly got angry, started to insult NiP players, refused handshakes. Now they cheated LDLC and suddenly they're surprised that LDLC got angry on them. But I think it would be a good sportsmanship from LDLC, if they apologized for their words in twitter (especially Happy and NBK).
2014-12-01 16:41
+1337
2014-12-01 16:38
#251
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Sweden Kasidro 
When we have reached death threats it's not normal mocking anymore and parts of it is to blame on happy and nbk. I always liked them but for me they are a bigger disgrace than fnatic now. Biggest hypocrites in the scene and I hope they realise it. I still don't hope they die though like most fnatic haters
2014-12-01 16:09
Yeah, Happy & NBK acted like assholes. But don't you agree that Fnatic are actually responsible for all this hate too? Btw, I think that LDLC is one of the teams that would've used this boost too, if they had a chance.
2014-12-01 16:13
#259
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Sweden Kasidro 
I agree to some extent and you seem like a sensible person so I'll leave it here :-)
2014-12-01 16:15
gg fnatic fangay. flusha cheats
2014-12-01 16:33
#306
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Sweden Kasidro 
I'm more of a vp fanboy and been since the golden 5 days but whatever suits you Mr retard
2014-12-01 16:39
lol calling people retards on an internet forum?? k bro. stupid ass kids these days. cant believe ur parents even let u on the web
2014-12-01 17:15
#379
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Sweden Kasidro 
Lol at calling people fangay, damn classy, your parents must be proud Mr hypocrite. And im probably older than you, kid
2014-12-01 18:49
lmao you calling me a kid you lil nitwit? i outta show u some manners 12 yr old keyboard warriors these days
2014-12-01 20:32
#402
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Sweden Kasidro 
Sigh, You called me a fangay so I sank to your level and called you a retard. This makes you a hypocrite when you lol me for calling you a retard when you were the one setting the level of the conversation. You are 17 or something kid, period. Have a nice life, bye
2014-12-01 22:29
lol throwing the word kid around like your old enoufh to use that word towards me. you're just another lil boy who lives with their mommy and thinks theyre tough over the web cause there's a screen protecting you
2014-12-01 23:43
#442
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Sweden Kasidro 
jesus, you started the kid thingy as well....Im actually 28, maried and with a master in computer science so I guess i achieved more than you did....And no, i do not live with my mom. Grow the fuck up, kid
2014-12-02 01:45
Cool. Are you an astronaut too? Computer science? LOL r u kidding me?? pathetic. So silver.
2014-12-02 04:36
#444
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Sweden Kasidro 
You are a fantastic comedian, probably prolonged my life with another 2 days from the laughs you've been giving me. Bye
2014-12-02 11:56
lol
2014-12-02 12:57
what are you laughing at homeboy??!
2014-12-02 17:45
move this comment box to right
2014-12-02 18:19
It doesn't work like that in the developed world. This isn't the stone age. It's not cool to be super tough, boy.
2014-12-01 22:40
that comment by devilwalk is just silly. if flusha doesnt cheat, he has nothing to be afraid of. if i were falsely accused of cheating by all community i wouldnt give a shit, i would insist that i dont cheat, go through every suspicious situation and try to explain why i did what i did. i wouldnt be nervous or whatever but angry
2014-12-01 16:05
#260
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Sweden Kasidro 
Death threats is not that easy to just shake off
2014-12-01 16:15
idiots post death threats, every celebrity gets them sooner or later, for gamers...well it seems like when they piss off the community by lieing to it (flusha saying he never has and never will cheat), thats imo ofc, judging from videos
2014-12-01 16:21
#288
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Sweden Kasidro 
Doesn't matter if celebrities gets them. If you are not used to it it might not be so easy to handle.
2014-12-01 16:31
its true, i dont like kids who do that crap. but do u think he cheated or not? i believe he did. and if im right, i cant say that he deserves it but that before he decided to do it, he could have thought of this being a possibility of he gets caught
2014-12-01 16:35
Noone deserves it. Its a fucking video game. Treat other humans with some goddamn respect.
2014-12-02 12:14
#455
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Sweden Kasidro 
^
2014-12-02 12:39
agree, gamer doesnt deserve it. however games are not like they used to be 10 years ago, now gaming is a job and cheating on a 'job' level should imo be considered similar to stealing money (which they do right? they illegaly win money and thus some hardworkers dont get it). i dont respect people who cheat (afterall it seems that they dont give a shit about other people who put a lot of hours in this game just to fail against opponents cheats --> selfish people) im only saying that they should be punished for what they did and punishments today in gaming are not hard enough imo
2014-12-03 10:40
i hope it's devilwalk himself who has to leave fnatic, he is immature and bad for the fnatic when it comes to PR. no one wants to support a team made by screaming and trash talking 15 year old hiphop wannabe kids.
2014-12-01 16:58
2014-12-01 17:17
Over a year ago. Diffrent line-up (only jw and flusha in the playing line-up) and you are really not over this incident yet?
2014-12-01 17:22
2014-12-02 18:16
Its not them who cant hold the pressure.I bet that they don't give any fuck about hltv or so, for example flushas tweets.Now they are beeing dramatic cause their sponsors warned them. They don't want -$$$ because of the hate to team!
2014-12-01 19:35
if as professionals, they cant handle cheating accusations and crumble, it just goes to show what a joke they really are. if someone accused me of cheating, id get pissed off and come back 100x stronger.....not lash out at the community and act like a little bitch. fnatic are too immature to deal with this like adults
2014-12-01 22:37
The whole "dispute" could have and should have been handled differently / better, but it was not. It is what it is. Perhaps LDLC or NBK should not have "slandered" Fnatic, but also, think about this; perhaps Flusha should not have said something so emotional on Twitter. He should have let himself calm down for at least 24 hours so he does not post something based off of his emotions due to the situation that happened. LDLC should not have done to Fnatic what they did (accuse, slander, etc.) and Fnatic should not have said "stupid" things and should have responded in a more calm and professional manner. Both LDLC and Fnatic are at fault, and perhaps, the problem could have been solved with a simple apology from both sides to one another. It doesn't matter who started the "fight", what matters is how it ends. A lot of the CSGO community likes to participate in things that they are not involved in nor have any business in, but they are who they are and we cannot change them. Both the players, organizations, and community members need to change if we are to all co-exist in the modern day of e-sports, an up and coming thing.
2014-12-03 19:23
#392
chrisJ | 
France Escher 
WP
2014-12-01 20:11
#2
Finland AScir 
ripperino in pepperinos
2014-12-01 14:36
awkward handshake. never forget!
2014-12-01 15:48
#308
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Brazil Nobuga 
+1
2014-12-01 16:43
+1
2014-12-01 22:48
gg
2014-12-01 14:37
oh crap
2014-12-01 14:37
They are on their way to VACations. Thanks Gaben.
2014-12-01 14:38
Praise the lord.
2014-12-01 15:12
stay strong krimz
2014-12-01 14:40
krimz creating that drama, like other fnatic members. I guess that's a way to get pity
2014-12-01 14:40
Fnatic disbanding when tournament organisers have realised cheating on lan is an issue. I wouldnt be surprised
2014-12-01 14:40
Hopefully a disband or VACation inc.
2014-12-01 14:41
such a sad cunt
2014-12-01 14:49
Sad, is cheating at a professional level.
2014-12-01 15:17
absolutely crucifying a team and players based on a few 5 second long videos is pathetic.
2014-12-01 15:18
+1 If fnatic do disband, I'd like to see all the teams boycott esea lan finals Would be a pivotal moment in the cs history, but hopefully it'll make some people realise at least that the players aren't there to take shit from the community
2014-12-01 15:28
There probably isn't a team in the world who fully believes flusha isn't cheating. I doubt any team would support a cheating team. I actually think fnatic should get a penalty of some sort since they refused to abide by the rules when they refused to do the rematch (That's pretty much saying, it's our way or fuck off). I also don't understand how they were allowed to use their own mouse and keyboard for the event.
2014-12-01 16:51
They refused the rematch because the community was in a mass outcry sending them death threats and hate.
2014-12-02 12:15
Haha, get fucking real. No one will boycott shit because a cheating team disbanded of their own accord.
2014-12-01 16:58
If the boost was known 2 weeks prior would it have been allowed in tournament? Not. A. Single. Chance. Not one. Nicht ein. Zero. Is it fair to use said boost for financial gain? I would hope in the future if FNATIC find a spot on de_nuke as terrorists where you can dakdak CT spawn from T spawn unchallenged then common sense prevails and they don't use it in the deciding map of a major tournament.
2014-12-01 17:18
#479
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World mjuddi 
Pro players shouldn't even be bothered by what the community says. You don't see professional players in other sports whining after criticism, tweeting and blaming everything on the community. I say this again, this is just pathetic how they are acting.. I hope they take they're sticker money and go do something else.. will be glad to see them gone.
2014-12-02 15:18
#152
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Sweden rblg 
Just because you don't have any clue what to look for in the gifs doesn't mean they are worthless. Ignorance is bliss.
2014-12-01 15:30
lol. same to you my friend. that argument works both ways.
2014-12-01 15:35
+1
2014-12-01 15:39
#214
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Sweden rblg 
I replied to you in the news post but it seems your comment got deleted. Cba to write it again so I'll keep it short and concise. You mentioned that the gifs are not surprising considering flusha's playstyle and that they have no audio. I can tell you that the suspicious moves in the gifs are not explained by sounds or playstyle at all. It's all about the suspicious mouse movement preceded by certain triggers. The same kind of stuff you'd expect if you were using the most advanced aim assistance software out there. It could be cheating or it could be pure coincidence but you guys really don't seem capable of judging what happens in those clips.
2014-12-01 15:50
dude they participated in dreamhack without getting banned what do they have to do to proove to you ignorant drama hunters to make you guys stop witch hunting them? out of hundreds of games don't you think that stuff like that happens? Ever since KQLY got banned people for some reason just feel like they need to accuse someone. And why not accuse the players in the best team of the world? This whole thing is not better than a conspiracy theory and it's not making anything better. So don't reply shit about that the gifs are evidence.
2014-12-01 15:57
#246
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Sweden rblg 
What do you think them participating in the Dreamhack and not getting banned proves? Do you want me to list how many LANs did KQLY and Sf participate without getting banned? LANs they actually accomplished something, didn't abuse bugs to win and then forfeit in the semis? It's just weird that the same kind of stuff doesn't happen for other players. And don't start the "yeah it would if you looked at it" bullshit because it has been posted like 9999 times already by all fnatic fanboys and not a single one of them has been able to provide any proof like there has been the gifs about flusha.
2014-12-01 16:06
they had internet acces on the other lans. At dreamhack they didn't + they had to send their drivers before the event. There's no way he could have cheated.
2014-12-01 16:12
#266
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Sweden rblg 
They had internet access on Dreamhack, their cloud sync was working, check the photos posted from the event. There is a possibility they could have cheated, however, I don't believe they did. But they're skilled players who obviously can trash teams like Bravado and C9 even without cheats. The cheats will only increase their aim like 10-20%, if you think the pro players who cheat are bad players, you need a reality check. KQLY and Sf, even though they cheated, would trash 99.999% of the HLTVorg users and even many top20-30 professional teams WITHOUT CHEATS.
2014-12-01 16:18
"Do you want me to list how many LANs did KQLY and Sf participate without getting banned?" Are you implying you know how many LANs they cheated at...?
2014-12-01 16:28
#299
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Sweden rblg 
Erm, did I say something like that? It doesn't even matter, right? He was saying that flusha participated in a LAN (cheating or not cheating) and did not get banned. I'm saying that KQLY and Sf participated in multiple LANs (cheating or not cheating) and did not get banned. You just can't draw up any conclusions based on the fact alone that someone has played on LAN and did not get banned. That's my point. If you ask me, I don't believe the story about "trying out" cheats for a second. I'm pretty sure KQLY and Sf cheated for a much longer time, perhaps a year or two. Did they cheat on LAN? That's a harder question. I'm inclined to say they did but perhaps not on all of them. There are too much factors involved for me to reliably guess, though
2014-12-01 16:36
Fair enough, the way you worded it just made it sound like it was proof that you can cheat on LAN - but as you say we can't really know if they did it or not.
2014-12-01 16:38
exactly +111 well said
2014-12-02 13:47
All I see these days is hltv retards making speculations.
2014-12-02 13:04
#182
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Sweden rblg 
Actually it doesn't but don't let it bother you.
2014-12-01 15:40
"few" u mean 30?
2014-12-01 16:22
show me 30 legit proofs of fnatic cheating. No fucking way.
2014-12-02 13:48
+1
2014-12-01 23:12
you're fucking pathetic
2014-12-01 15:11
+1
2014-12-01 16:24
boring that the comunity destroyes the best team in the world...
2014-12-01 14:41
community cancer
2014-12-01 14:41
fnatic cancer.
2014-12-01 17:03
yes you are.
2014-12-02 13:46
Good riddance.
2014-12-01 14:41
hope so.
2014-12-01 14:42
how come everyone here is so fucking stupid?HOLY SHIT
2014-12-01 14:42
Thank you Pita, NiP destroyed fnatic. NiP so afraid.
2014-12-01 14:45
DSo you want to tell us, that pita installed aimhack on flusha's mouse xD ???
2014-12-01 14:49
#309
shox | 
Canada dB- 
No, illuminati did /_\
2014-12-01 16:43
.
2014-12-02 19:12
its weak mentality or VACation that destroys fnatic... if ppl would hunt me to make a cheater out of me and i wasnt guilt i'd be more hungry to prove myself and win a 'cheat-free' major than ever... but those kids are so depressed and gives up so easily its either cheats and feeling of guilt or simply weak mind
2014-12-01 15:30
Totally agree, if everybody calls me a cheater but i m the best playing fair, i'd take all this hate as energy and be even happier that people think i cheat
2014-12-01 15:53
You destroyed fnatic not NiP. You're the ones sending hate messages 24/7
2014-12-01 15:40
Sending hate messages? Fan snackar du om
2014-12-03 17:42
pita's post was unprofessional and a dick-move. But he's just a small part of this fucking witch-hunt. horrible community.
2014-12-02 13:49
pita gave credibility to it. i lost respect for him for life. what a complete thoughtless loser
2014-12-02 19:21
fnatic's own fault. the only one who im feeling sorry for is pronax
2014-12-01 14:46
RIP flusha
2014-12-01 14:46
#32
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Norway duffz00r 
well' fuck the community then :p
2014-12-01 14:46
For standing up against a blatant cheater and a team that used the lowest move ever seen in a cs go pro tournament? If so leave and never come back please.
2014-12-01 14:47
+1
2014-12-01 14:48
Do anyone in fnatic got a VAC ban?
2014-12-01 14:51
No. Do you think they are using some shitty public hack you buy for 10$ that gets detected in 5 minutes? Look how long it took to detect kqly and that was only possible because of smn and esea helping valve.
2014-12-01 14:53
It took a long time, kqly and the rest of the shitters got banned and yet no one on fnatic has a vac ban. Well, shit, go figure why.
2014-12-01 15:13
Well shit, there might be other private hacks out there, made by other coders. Go figure.
2014-12-01 15:17
Innocent until proven guilty and those "aimlock" gifs aint any proof.
2014-12-01 15:26
I never said he is guilty. I just said that just because 1 hack got detected(only bcus of insider info btw) doesn't mean there aren't different hacks out there that hasn't been detected yet.
2014-12-01 15:42
Only because supex0 cheat got leaked.
2014-12-01 15:32
#348
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Poland dijef 
And KQLY was saying as well something about his 12yrs career... In real sports world people didn't admit ever to doping unless really caught. For me the fact that many of pro players says there is something about flusha speaks for itself. I think because he wasn't caught, he deserves to play but this shit talk about community thanks to which he earns money is just so lame. CS:GO is growing and players have to get used to hate on them. Btw, I think flusha isn't 100% clean and I would like to have him verified somehow.
2014-12-01 17:17
well shit.. kqly and sf went undetected for quite some time... how hltv are you?
2014-12-01 17:20
everything is relative. You say its blatant, while I disagree.
2014-12-01 15:01
how could you possibly disagree rofl
2014-12-01 15:10
how could you possibly agree rofl
2014-12-01 15:25
how could you possible agree rofl
2014-12-01 15:27
#175
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
how could you possible agree rofl
2014-12-01 15:37
lol, do we play the same game? :D
2014-12-01 15:17
Yes, but I'm good and you're not.
2014-12-01 15:24
yes yes, cuz only bad people from germany do see an obvious aimbot. in sweden they lift their mouse more often, its common sense.
2014-12-01 15:27
Do you know what common sense is? Innocent until proven guilty. I guess your parents didn't teach you that. youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso Just have a look at this demo, you'll see how his playstyle makes it look likes hes cheating.
2014-12-01 15:31
so in entirely ~7000hrs of counterstrike i didnt see a guy doing #justflushathings over and over again. i do know from own demos and even some TT (timetables) against myself, that things like that can happen. the issue is, never ever would u flick directly between the eyes of ur opponent twice, or 15 times like flusha did. and then there is the other action which is simply hacking, since the mousemovement is the most unnatural thing i have ever seen. but u can just see it on 25% speed. im talking bout the 2 frags gainst cype etc. on inferno short a-site. u can see how his crosshair snaps right onto the enemies head, in just like 0.002seconds and triggers a headshot, while flusha did move his mouse into an complete other direction for the mentioned 0.002 seconds. this my friend, is the fucking most unbelieveable thing u would do in counterstrike. never ever is this legit. lots of these gifs just look like coincidence, but with the 2 or 3 really obvious ones in mind, i just cant hesitate to call im a cheater. i do play esl since 05 and there had been lots of cheaters having 1on1 aimmap 32-2-0 or something. it did take esl-wire (which is ~1000% better than VAC) about a year to bust these people by an anticheat. so everyone did know he is hacking (since he owned even progamers with his fucking 2month old account having 32-2-0) what happened? yup, nuttin.
2014-12-01 15:50
Great story, changed my life. You think he cheats, you know nothing. As I said, everything is relative.
2014-12-01 15:51
yup, i just trust myselfs >decade of experince more than a swede who cant bring in some arguments. its also kinda relative i guess, hum?
2014-12-01 15:54
Everyone thinks they're right. I have tons of experience with cheaters myself. Used to bust cheaters back in 2004, you can't be certain that flusha cheats. I will not say he doesn't cheat, but I'll need more to be sure.
2014-12-01 15:58
#391
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
They aren't cheaters until proven otherwise
2014-12-01 20:10
will never happen since VAC is a piece of shit. now they disband, stop hacking or playing cs and in future everyone will say "it has been the communities fault, nuttin proven etc." actually the best call fnatic can make. i still think carn and devilwalk dont even believe themselves that flusha is legit.
2014-12-01 20:35
stupid kid.
2014-12-01 17:07
+1 fucknatic
2014-12-01 15:16
#106
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
For being total douchebag's trashtalking 24/7? And the funny part is that 80% of the talk is just personal trashtalk. You didn't stand up for shit instead u joined the trollwave, there's a difference between those two things. ;) But I've seen someone being mature talking about it, and that's interesting. But that's like the minority of the community. Still 80% hasn't standed up for SHIT except slangin nonsense shit threads which is irrelevance on the subject. ;)
2014-12-01 15:17
thanx to hltv dark side :D
2014-12-01 14:47
2014-12-01 14:49
i dont believe them anyway, they want now disband because they know that smth is wrong with them(cheating maybe) and want blame community for it
2014-12-01 14:47
-flusha +schneider???
2014-12-01 14:47
fnatic berg fnatic twist fnatic zende fnatic SKYTTEN fnatic schneider
2014-12-01 14:48
disbanded after 1 week
2014-12-01 15:26
why?
2014-12-01 15:26
Top3 sweden, for sure inc
2014-12-01 15:27
The only reason one of those guys would be retiring at this point is because he/they want to get out of this without getting caught. Like seriously there is no other point. They're all young and obviously have/had lots of fun playing. Prolly the best team in the world so they win a lot. And if they didn't know people will try to bring them down because they're at the top, well then they know it now.
2014-12-01 14:48
Same opinion, if they quit its like admitting they/one of them used cheats. They won a LOT of money, they won't quit like that only because some retards on the internet.
2014-12-01 14:56
That's pretty illogical if you ask me. It doesn't matter if you quit CS or get banned from CS, you'll be in the same situation regardless, living your life outside of the game, the scene and the community. If someone is quitting, I'd say it's much more plausible that it's due to him not being able to handle the pressure, feeling totally rejected etc. Assuming that the player has been cheating and is an ice cold human machine not affected by the mass hatred, it'd make much more sense to make as much money while still being innocent on paper.
2014-12-01 19:18
If they were to be the best, they would've won the upcoming lan in a fair way, not the way the wanted to win this major.
2014-12-02 12:46
n1
2014-12-01 14:49
They're in the storm cause they are curiously flicking on the heads of ennemies through the walls (which is definitly not normal), they come to the tournament and exploit a bug in front of 350k viewers during what should have been the best match of the tournament and now they're like "gg" "look at what you have done" "snif snif something bad is happening to us". Think before you act next time guys.
2014-12-01 14:49
WHO CARES about fnatic, world will still go on if they stop playing....
2014-12-01 14:49
Indeed, the most funny/sad part ? Immature people (org/players/"analyst"/community) calling each others out immature. What a joke ! And don't understand me wrong, i included myself in this too.
2014-12-01 15:35
Considering they are arguably the best team in csgo I'd say a lot of people
2014-12-01 16:59
2014-12-01 14:49
theyre either going to disband or just creating a drama around them
2014-12-01 14:50
Did the community destroy this team? Yes. Did this team deserve to be destroyed? Yes.
2014-12-01 14:51
No they didn't deserve it since they did nothing wrong.
2014-12-01 15:44
Haven't you heard, flusha is an obvious cheat to everyone but VAC and fnatic fan boys
2014-12-01 15:53
Abusing a map bug that completely destroys a game... Sure, nothing wrong...
2014-12-01 16:22
Would have been completely legal if not for a texture glitch that they didn't even use, but who gives a shit about rules #MikeBrownFnatic2014.
2014-12-02 12:22
imagine playing against this shit first time in history you fucking idiot. You can not do shit because the whole map is open to a guy who doubleshots everyone on the map that is like nocliping in a god mode.
2014-12-02 12:48
"Would have been completely legal, if it wasn't illegal!!!" Great argument. Even if this boost would have been technically legal, doesn't mean, that it is ok to use. It is an obvious map bug. Those people are professional players that are supposed to pass such bugs on to valve so that they can be fixed. Instead they choose to abuse it.
2014-12-03 11:31
Hoping for retirements and disband :D Ordering popcorn atm !
2014-12-01 14:51
#60
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Israel TalOs 
ordering popcorn?
2014-12-01 14:52
yup, you can do that ;)
2014-12-01 15:10
Only in France
2014-12-01 15:39
Another Frenchie hating on Swedish legit players because they got vacationed themselves. So predictable.
2014-12-01 22:41
Legit players ? I lol'd
2014-12-01 23:35
bg l2p
2014-12-01 14:52
Every pro gets scrutinized, they just need to stop being cunts.
2014-12-01 14:52
if they were legit they will never give up and make drama like this....obviously something fishy going on there...i hope its VACation time for someone.
2014-12-01 14:53
#65
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Netherlands K1NGBOAZ 
If ur really clean and really fucking tough just take it and prove the world youre not cheating. Easy as hell. Everyone out there is just playing their game. These guys are shit without CSGO probably crying as soon as someone looks at them in the supermarket. GET SOME BALLS
2014-12-01 14:53
They fucking did proove themself at dreamhack. But people are witchhunting them. They wont accept the fact that they aren't cheating so they do everything just to make them look like cheaters.
2014-12-01 15:46
#219
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Netherlands K1NGBOAZ 
Well if they proved themselves why are they still crying. They can just play and win...
2014-12-01 15:53
Because the ommunity is bullying them and as you may have noticed the people still thinks that they're cehating because they're desperate.
2014-12-01 15:58
#324
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Netherlands K1NGBOAZ 
Who cares about what people say? If youre not busted youre not guilty yet right? I think you shouldnt be a professional gamer if you cry in a corner and leave as soon as you get called a cheater. If he was really innocent he would have made a great statement. Instead of making such statement hes lifting his mouse more. ;)
2014-12-01 16:57
Stomped everyone online. Lost to HR and needed to exploit to beat LDLC on LAN. Yep, they sure did "proove themself" at dreamhack
2014-12-02 13:29
they already did prove it asshole, flusha and jw played awesome at DHW, but this hltv community doesnt care. They are blind toxic sheep
2014-12-01 17:05
#352
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Netherlands K1NGBOAZ 
So now Im an asshole because these children are crying in a corner after some accusations? Imagine if a soccer player quits everytime someone says something about him.
2014-12-01 17:19
#67
Lithuania biok 
Stay strong krimz ur the best <3
2014-12-01 14:55
#68
Belgium Monu 
they should do their job, they get paid for it and quit crying like little babies stuff like this will eventually fly over if noone gets banned
2014-12-01 14:55
+1 I bet forfeiting matches in major tournaments doesn't quite match organizations interests..
2014-12-01 16:46
the attentionwhoring is strong in this one
2014-12-01 14:57
WHY would they fucking quit? Like if they didn't cheat why the fuck would they care, makes no sense to me
2014-12-01 14:59
yep, totally agree
2014-12-01 15:07
+1
2014-12-01 15:35
#311
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Brazil Nobuga 
+9999
2014-12-01 16:45
How is it so hard to understand that people threatening you and trash talking you and yelling insults at you no matter what you do, makes you want to quit? Most people can't actually ignore that level of hatred.
2014-12-01 22:43
disband inc
2014-12-01 15:00
D R A M A B O Y S
2014-12-01 15:01
They wouldnt go to disband if they were legit. If there are some bad relationships inside the team, it is not because of the hate, it is because of something that one or more players have done.
2014-12-01 15:06
#81
smn | 
China HLTVMASTR 
They're not disbanding because of community pressure, they are disbanding because they know what they have done and are aware that they have THEMSELVES tainted their reputation. Seriously, why the fuck would you disband because of some shitty whitch-hunt, if you yourself know that you have done nothing wrong? (because they know flusha did wrong Xd) This is fnatic as an org trying to save face.
2014-12-01 15:09
+1 well said dude
2014-12-01 15:09
#87
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Sweden rblg 
+1
2014-12-01 15:11
yup, couldnt have said it any better
2014-12-01 15:19
+1337 did NIP disband completly and lost motivation, just because everyone hated fiffy?? no, of course not! fcking cheaters, they cant live with their guilt-feelings anymore, thats the true reaon...
2014-12-01 15:27
+5
2014-12-01 17:15
+1
2014-12-01 15:35
You're the dumbest person here.
2014-12-01 15:46
who posts comments that make sense? tell us your view on why would a team disband pls, would love to hear it
2014-12-01 16:11
imagine playing the biggest tournament of your life and winning only to be bullied by thousands of people online because they found a op thing on the map. LDLC made an illegal boost aswell but people don't care because Fnatic is allways a target here. I know that you're gonna tell me that fnatics was way more op and shit but that doesn't matter! Both teams cheated ansd only fnatic got insulted and hated on. Even after they ff'd the game people kept hating on them for no reason at all.
2014-12-01 16:16
1) ldlc didnt make the same boost 2) do u really believe fnatic were bullied cuz of that boost? yes they did ruin that second half but hey, there would replay that map or in their worst case only second half...the problem was flusha's accusations of cheating, it doesnt matter how well they would do on DW, even if they have won it, they would be bullied because 95% community thinks flusha cheats 3) they forfeited cuz they were told/adviced to (my guess is fnatic staff or the only player who could possibly think of it is pronax but i doubt the others would). it makes 0 sense to get response from admins to replay only second half, then players tried to convince DH admins to replay whole map --> they succed and then they forfeit?
2014-12-01 16:27
he is pretty dumb, but the fanboys falling for the guilt trip thats now started by fnatic are even more dumb lol
2014-12-01 16:21
+1 finally someone using logic here
2014-12-01 20:20
#83
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
they need to quit before they all go on VACation
2014-12-01 15:10
i think they will exactly do that - retire for some alibi reason, just as community is shitty or private reasons, then retire and a week later, steam acc is on VACation :)))
2014-12-01 15:26
If they're clean and the sponsors are backing them up, then they've got zero reasons to give in to anything. Quitting right now would only solidify their guilt to do the community and this will remain as a permanent stain to their names.
2014-12-01 15:11
H O L A H O L A ~ W E D E M B O Y Z
2014-12-01 15:12
#staystrong #fnaticforever
2014-12-01 15:13
great job guys, really well done ffs. fucking joke community
2014-12-01 15:14
#101
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Estonia syccc 
finally community got what they wanted, sad.
2014-12-01 15:15
#102
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Japan mameloff 
result of witch hunting awesome thumbs up +100 for community
2014-12-01 15:16
If this isn't sarcasm. You are everything that is wrong with this community.
2014-12-02 12:24
If some members leave from the team because of hate from community they're a bunch of pussies. If you have a winning team (not saying fnatic is or isn't) you shouldn't quit because of bad words from community. ps. I still think that flusha has cheated in the past.
2014-12-01 15:17
i think tonight one or two players is going to leave fnatic after such insults for cheats 100% sure......
2014-12-01 15:18
#113
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
disbanding cheater team, greatest accomplishment of my life, n1
2014-12-01 15:19
i fully agree :)
2014-12-01 15:25
#172
smn | 
China HLTVMASTR 
gud jab m8
2014-12-01 15:36
so what's this fuss about???
2014-12-01 15:19
bitch hunt is ovar
2014-12-01 15:19
yep, we did it! we actually uncovered a cheating pro team :) im so proud of us hltv community! together we can get all of them banned!
2014-12-01 15:25
lol there's no proof that someone of them cheats
2014-12-01 15:28
#158
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Estonia syccc 
YEAH MEASTW YOU DID IT !!!! GRATZ MAN !
2014-12-01 15:31
fnatic had a chance to redeem themselves in the communities image and how did they do that? Kept an illegal map breaking boost secret for two months instead of contacting VALVe and being like is this legit.. then they laughed about it in the interview after. So yeah, I don't agree with the death threats and stuff but fnatic deserves flack for how they have behaved as "professionals".
2014-12-01 15:20
Pixel walking was allowed stupid cunt.
2014-12-01 15:47
#239
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Sweden rblg 
Pixelwalking was allowed but the boost was illegal. So what's your point? It's good that fnatic didn't break the pixelwalking rule but broke 2 other rules (seeing through walls and immortal bug) instead?
2014-12-01 16:02
But no seeing through textures :)
2014-12-01 16:03
If they disband or someone leaves it's because they were actually cheating... there is no way you would disband at this point in time when you have the potential to make so much money if you are legit.
2014-12-01 15:21
This community is full of lowlife kids but if someone in the team is quitting because of this.. no words GO FNATIC!
2014-12-01 15:22
atleast some fnatic fans like you have dignity here....i mean yeah the community is full with tards and will always be but why make the drama and all this crap if you are legit...no motivation? cmon they are getting sticker money + salary from fnatic why would they quit..
2014-12-01 15:28
I don't think its fun to continue competing if you're constantly insulted and accused for cheating.
2014-12-01 15:49
well thats my point mate....fnatic needs to do anything to prove them wrong thats the thing that will motivate them because they have nothing to lose...u catch my drift....what they are doing is totaly different.
2014-12-01 16:59
+1
2014-12-01 23:54
If someone quitting because of this he is a cheater for sure.
2014-12-01 15:23
yep, i think that too, of course the statement then will make the community or loss of fun the main reason...
2014-12-01 15:24
GG hopefully VAC incoming :))) and even better fnatic disbanding, giving up their careers, so we have no more "dont like to shake hands with another team" or "need to use bug positions to at least have a chance to win" or "major team forfeiters" oh happy day :)
2014-12-01 15:23
rise of LGB incoming woohoo
2014-12-01 15:23
twist is coming to fnatic i think after one will leave fnatic tonight
2014-12-01 15:25
they had such a great teamwork, their teamplay was insane... and this reckless community full of hatred ruined everything, ffs u didnt hate even KQLY so much which was banned ... i hope they wont split up but its seems they will
2014-12-01 15:28
This is sad
2014-12-01 15:28
2014-12-01 15:28
BUNCH OF CRY BABYS HOLY SHIT
2014-12-01 15:28
Hopefully they do disband and no other organisation picks them up :) Disgusting bunch of individuals, I used to like pronax but after his retarded statement I changed my mind about him completely.
2014-12-01 15:29
id rather VACation, but I guess disbandment will do. GG.
2014-12-01 15:29
yep VAcation would be way better, i hope we are not going to seeany of these players again in csgo history...
2014-12-01 15:30
so when does the pathetic olofm-tweet or fb statement is going to appear? then we got everyone made a alibi statement, so the team can go on VACation... blablabla community is hit blabla, just move my mouse more often and just randomly aimlocks to heads... i cant hear it anymore, why cant they just disappear...
2014-12-01 15:30
This fucking cunt community bullied the best team to quit GG
2014-12-01 15:32
so much pathetic massages from fnatic players, rofl if they are not guilty why so much this shits all the day lol
2014-12-01 15:35
Electrica you are the pathetic one. Shitting on people behind a monitor.
2014-12-01 15:37
#173
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Sweden rblg 
Yeah because the community just decides to bully one team for no reason, right? It's always easier to blame others than yourselves.
2014-12-01 15:36
The community can't stand that one team is winning everything. Not long ago JW, for example, was the best awp'er in the world. As soon as the "VACening" started, all the teens in here decided to come up with new victims for drama...which led to this. Counter-Strike deserves to die if Fnatic disbands because of personal bullying no matter how much I like this game.
2014-12-01 15:39
#199
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Sweden rblg 
No offense but I don't believe you. It just doesn't work like that. Tons of people don't just start hating one team for no reason. Why would they? Are the people in the Counter-Strike scene just so evil? Why would they be? Why hasn't similar thing happened with other teams dominating in the past? You should think about it. This is a thing that is actually studied pretty much in psychology. It seems you believe you've found something no-one else has. You should definitely hit up a few universities. I'm actually not taking any sides here. What you're proposing is just extremely unlikely. So if I was you, I'd think again.
2014-12-01 15:47
Blaming on the "community" for disbanding a team is so fucking stupid. They dont give a shit, just look DW under the interviews @DH so fucking cocky.
2014-12-01 15:37
You don't have much brains do you? That was one person not an entire team and definitely not an entire organization. I feel sorry for you. I'm sorry.
2014-12-01 15:41
Does anyone realize it definitely seems like Nip wants Fnatic gone so they can take the number one spot? Their silence right now speaks for itself. Just wait...if Fnatic disbands the next team to take their spot will endure the same shit they've gone through.
2014-12-01 15:42
ehm, no.. did NIP just once forfeits in a major or refused to handshakes after a match? lol fnatic are alle arrogant fckers, so not many people will miss them...
2014-12-01 15:41
child please. fnatic put themselves through the shit they are going through, they cant blame anyone but themselves.
2014-12-01 22:39
What would you expect them to say...?
2014-12-02 00:01
gg
2014-12-01 15:35
please no :(
2014-12-01 15:36
I doubt they are disbanding. They are probably just trying to get sympathy from the community :)
2014-12-01 15:37
i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player - flusha hahaha its like fodder and his fodderphones.. and obv they blame the community now for disband or whatever, but its all because flusha was cheating and he was 100% sad there is no vac for him
2014-12-01 15:38
wont miss them, thats for sure. but i also wouldnt miss Vp... i have zero connection to those two teams. i cant stand taz ingame but he seems ok irl. but the fnatic dudes just are so ... i just cant stand them.
2014-12-01 15:39
stupid haters i hope Fnatic become stronger and pissed on your. NBK QUEEN DRAMA !!!!!!!
2014-12-01 15:40
#186
ISSAA | 
Canada gloomit 
cry more fnatic, create drama more obvious plx
2014-12-01 15:40
don't be fooled people, this (as well as the DHW dropout) is a disingenuous attempt at restoring/saving the organisation's reputation.. they know (or at least heavily suspect) that flusha has cheated and now pathetically try to turn the tables and make themselves look like the victims in all of this, LOL.. if they were 100% sure of flusha being innocent they'd probably be defiantly trying to prove all the people accusing him wrong and simply continue playing since they should easily be top 1 contenders..
2014-12-01 15:42
pretty awkward that a team or players will quit from what people say on hltv and reddit lmao
2014-12-01 15:44
indeed lmao indeed
2014-12-01 15:45
Got to be more to it, professionals in any sport often come under fire, unfortunately its part of the job and something they should really be able to handle. Sad times!
2014-12-01 15:49
hope there is more to it otherwise they deserve to disband or whatever
2014-12-01 15:57
It's probably disband or one or more players retiring from the team. Just read KrimzCSGO tweet "GG" for example. And flushas statement about everything aswell.
2014-12-01 15:46
Cry me a river Krimz!
2014-12-01 15:47
fnatic, what a drama qeens and attention whores
2014-12-01 15:47
This community is completely beyond repair. I'm constantly at a loss of words at the utter stupidity and disrespect shown by the community. Everyone likes to talk about how fnatic refused a handshake 18 months ago and now 90% of the same people don't think twice before throwing downright vulgar insults and death threats at fnatic players. Way to conduct yourselves, people.
2014-12-01 15:48
This. The people at this forum is toxic, And i bet 90% is asmad about skins and 9% just comes along with the rest of the hate. It's just so wrong. Please start to HWID ban people that write WAY to harsh things and we might get a decent forum in a month or two.
2014-12-01 15:52
HWID ban anyone who says anything against fnatic!!!!!! Change the name of the site to fnaticfanbois.com
2014-12-01 15:55
#232
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Sweden rblg 
Suggesting to HWID ban people who don't agree with you. Now that's low.
2014-12-01 15:59
I did not say that, HWID ban people that makes death threats for example. Against ANYONE.
2014-12-01 16:07
#252
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Sweden rblg 
I'm all for banning people who make death threats but I haven't seen a single death threat on the HLTVorg forums yet so I was wondering if you perhaps meant something else with your comment.
2014-12-01 16:09
how do you want to hardware ban using only a website :D
2014-12-01 17:13
its fkn keyboard warriors, who takes internet serious these days
2014-12-01 16:07
u are as immature as others. who is sending some death threats and insults to fnatic players? yes, its those 13yo kids who think theyre gangstaz and cant behave normally for 1 minute. it doesnt matter what game they play, theyre the same because theyre raised/educated poorly or have some brain dmg. the others are just saying their own opinion on the topic if flusha cheated or not. with aimlock u can never 100% guarantee that its a cheat by only watching videos but u can say that theres a really high probability that someone cheats (like 99.99%). i believe that probability for flusha is > 95% (judging from the videos i've seen) thats why i believe he cheats
2014-12-01 16:19
At what point did I even comment about him cheating or not? I've only said that I don't believe that he cheated at DHW 2014.
2014-12-01 16:25
what kind of idiot would cheat on a major, most secured, lan right after being accused of cheating by 90% of community? nobody cares if he cheated on DW or not but only if he cheated in those videos
2014-12-01 16:30
Well, people believe he cheated at DHW as well. I've seen at least 3 clips from DHW in exactly the same nature as the previous gifs. For me, they are very sketchy, but not enough for me to be convinced either way.
2014-12-01 16:38
quit before they get banned. "its not fun to play (clean)" (c) Flusha 2014
2014-12-01 15:54
There we go
2014-12-01 15:58
lgb returns? xD
2014-12-01 15:59
jw quitting, u heard it here first
2014-12-01 15:59
Hopefully they disband and out their cheat provider
2014-12-01 16:00
They are mentaly destroyed. ROFLMAO
2014-12-01 16:01
look IF FLUSHA IS CLEAN HE HAS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT FUKC but it he cheats then i think its time to quit
2014-12-01 16:05
Just looked some JW tweets and their replys like omg so people really sick with all this abuse "pig" and so on. Time to grow up boys. .
2014-12-01 16:05
ggwp
2014-12-01 16:06
Best team! Keep going strong fnatic.
2014-12-01 16:07
GG
2014-12-01 16:07
That says it all : someone in fnatic was indeed cheating GG pls disband
2014-12-01 16:13
#267
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Brazil mth^ 
You harvest what you plant, whether good or bad
2014-12-01 16:18
flusha related on his fb page that they might disband. This witch-hunt has gone a little too far.
2014-12-01 16:25
ggbb
2014-12-01 16:25
wow fnatic is weak when they disband or smtn. fifflaren took over 1 year of rapid hate in this forums :DDD fiffy stronk, fnatic wronk :D
2014-12-01 16:29
gg
2014-12-01 16:29
Wow, so many comments and not a single cLy me a river? Wow, cLy must be mentally very stronk!
2014-12-01 16:30
I liked KRIMZ's style was even thinking he was in top 5 players in CS:GO. But now they are making poor things.
2014-12-01 16:32
GG pls disband!
2014-12-01 16:32
Must be worried the ESEA AC would catch something, or they would be dire without it...
2014-12-01 16:34
Man the fuck up, holy hell. And if Fnatic doesn't see the gayness in their boost that's obviously unintentional on the map creator's part and is going to get patched, then I don't even know what to say.
2014-12-01 16:37
whaaat, sad if its real :/
2014-12-01 16:45
urhmagaahd, krimz just tweetededed guys, lets go dramaqueens
2014-12-01 16:46
I was just wondering why you Swedes are so scared of a witch hunt. Then I did little googling: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tors%C3%A5ker_witc.. I can assure you that, this will not end like that :P
2014-12-01 16:48
Fnatic got kicked out of ESEA finals, heard it here first
2014-12-01 16:48
Well, nicely done everyone.. You ruined the team, fnatic stayed strong through most of this hate, murder threats, cheating allegations and whining but I recon that everyone has got a breaking point. GG, again, way to go, instead of practicing your way to beat the worlds best team (FNATIC) you bullied them to disband.. This goes out to Lurppis, NBK, Shox, Pita and the big french cocksucking whore that is the cs go community.
2014-12-01 16:51
np
2014-12-01 16:54
i hope it's devilwalk himself who has to leave fnatic, he is immature and bad for the fnatic when it comes to PR. no one wants to support a team made by screaming and trash talking 15 year old hiphop wannabe kids.
2014-12-01 16:54
Fnatic should hire Fifflaren for a workshop: how to handle community trash talking like a pro.
2014-12-01 16:55
At this point I doubt Fnatic can do anything that would satisfy the community. If they disband people will say they did it because they cheated and didn´t want to get caught. If they keep trying to prove themselves, the community would try their best to find new cheat accusations, because well they have nothing better to do with their life basicly. Sad really.
2014-12-01 16:58
#330
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Denmark mathiaso 
Could be because flusha admitted the cheat to them :)?
2014-12-01 16:59
I think fnatic will realese players from contracts.
2014-12-01 17:02
They lost their enjoyment in playing in the semi-final. Lets hope they lost enjoyment in playing the actual game and disband.
2014-12-01 17:06
fnacheat down ! im happy.
2014-12-01 17:13
dramakiri
2014-12-01 17:14
goood riddance. nip ftw
2014-12-01 17:17
Ok cool another attention-seeking tweet from a fnatic member
2014-12-01 17:18
2014-12-01 17:19
Do you live in the past? Get over it. Your like that 6 y.o kid on daycare being mad coz you got bullied in the past
2014-12-02 12:08
haha trashtalking frenc frogboys,listen go hate TITAN vacbanned proven cheaters ok,thanks
2014-12-01 17:20
Probably -Krimz + schneider as schneider said he will comeback soon. Really guys, Overpass was a bit of a dickmove but stop fucking saying everyone cheats or should disband. God CSGO has such a bullsh1t community.
2014-12-01 17:24
This is a prime example of how bad this fnatic team is when it comes to public relations. You don't make such "statements". They leave room for the weirdest speculations and that's the last thing they need now.
2014-12-01 17:27
It doesnt matter what they say, they are literally the enemies for the stupid kids that cant think for themselves and whatever they say is gonna be wrong.
2014-12-01 17:43
Cry more.
2014-12-01 17:51
#365
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United States DatGuyLegit 
Im a Virtus.pro fan Biceps is always with you. You can't hate now because when the match was going on all the Fnatic fans were saying things about LDLC. Calling them names and saying ez skins ez life. What does that show? And i'm not only saying this about Fnatic fans because everyone else does it too. But, why worry about it now. Fnatic made a great decision they did not rage quit they made a fair choice and left. I agree with their decision and i wish them luck. At the ESEA Lan we will see them there and they will play there best. I don't see why you should hate on LDLC now because of the hate they gave because Fnatic gave it as well. Best of luck to all the teams at ESEA Lan and Remember Biceps is always with you.
2014-12-01 17:28
Would be devastating if a pro would quit due to an immature community that lacks respect.
2014-12-01 17:29
It's not immaturity, it's stupidity of the kids.
2014-12-01 17:46
Probably realised Flusha was cheating. Or lost pracc.
2014-12-01 17:50
I dont understand if they didnt cheat, and they know they are CLEAN, why u care about hltv kids threads saying that u cheat when u dont? i dont get it. for me if they disband, that will mean they cheated and maybe volvo force them to retire (without getting ban), cuz they didnt want to create a scandal.
2014-12-01 17:57
this post makes the most sense out of the hundreds ive read. kudos, sir
2014-12-01 22:39
hahahahahaa few days before dreamhack " we will stay united, whatever happend" SURE GUYS xDD
2014-12-01 17:56
Fnatic needs to hire a decent PR person. They've handled this whole situation so poorly. For flush a, let's say he doesn't cheat. They could've easily posted something official saying that he doesn't cheat and he'll do whatever the tournament organizers/ community want to prove his innocence. Ie. Tell the organizers what gear he uses and play with a new set. Play on a fresh steam account and have an admin watch him setup. That's what I'd offer to do if I was legit and the accusations of me cheating were as extreme as his. Instead they mock the community. Now you go into an event with people accusing multiple players on your team of cheating and you knowingly use an extremely unfair glitch. How brain dead do you have to be to use that boost when your team is already under scrutiny by the community and fellow pro players? Even if they weren't already in the hot seat did they really think everyone would just be OK with that boost? Dumbest decision I've ever seen in a tournament. Then they take forever to realize they should forfeit after dream hack makes a dumb decision. Then comes the community blame again. Now they are talking about disbanding and seeking sympathy.... Get some new PR fnatic.
2014-12-01 17:57
i see what you did here. grats on the new job :)
2014-12-02 00:42
Gg flusha vacced
2014-12-01 18:51
i dont understand they are pro players or girls so gg then quit
2014-12-01 20:01
#389
method | 
United States f0xes` 
fnatic is handling this entire situation like a bunch of teenage girls on their period. You guys have absolutely no fucking spine and you think people are going to fold because you are all laying this pity act on so thick. Regardless of whether you guys decide to put on some pants and face the reality of the situation, life will go on. People will forget about you and CS will continue to grow as the years come. But if you guys do disband, GL HF thanks for the funny aimlock vids and forfeit. Way to go out w/ a bang!
2014-12-01 20:04
#414
Vietnam N4M 
+1 if fnatic are disbanding, if its flusha cause of hax then ok no problem but if krimz/olofm leave then gg fnatic
2014-12-01 22:51
He just played MM and he used twitter instead of ingame chat...
2014-12-01 20:23
fucking no lifers
2014-12-01 20:25
as time goes by this make me laugh even more tinyurl.com/n86flgd
2014-12-01 20:41
someone add "but by cheating" there pls
2014-12-02 00:11
-maikelele +olofm NiP top 1 end of CSGO?!
2014-12-01 22:41
Why are they even crying about all of this, sure they get hate and cheat accusations, but that doesn't matter at all as you try to play better and earn even more money.. To me it looks childish and stupid, not to mention that if a player is leaving the team it will only raise the suspicion on the cheat accusation and the fact that ESEA's AC could probably find it..
2014-12-01 23:10
Theyre scared of esea's ac after what happened to smn hahaha
2014-12-01 23:37
idiot he just say "gg" to match against LDLC noob
2014-12-01 23:37
BROTHERS a little hate,ldlc along whith others screamed them in their faces like crazy people.imean big time bullying,man i felt sorry for them,dont judge them to hard friends.
2014-12-01 23:45
Who cares, let them cry..
2014-12-02 00:06
Still mad..
2014-12-02 00:09
they didnt cry you pice of shit. they were terrified,i promise you decap tuff guy,you would had crapt in your pants,i almost did
2014-12-02 00:10
I hope they #disband, dont like them, and they all suck on cheats. h3h3 no proof
2014-12-02 00:13
well we all have the right to like and dislike who we want, just the hate goes to far,personal insult abaute jw an so on,sorry bro
2014-12-02 00:16
yeah. they don't deserve all the cheating accusations and hate that comes with it, or any hate in general. but in the tournament they clearly did something wrong and the admins had no choice but to make them replay. they have to understand that! again, they deserve no hate. disliking is certainly enough.
2014-12-02 12:49
These silvers on HLTV and reddit makes me wanna puke... Not everyone is looking at the fucking ground when they're moving around. You can't possibly say that your crosshair wouldn't even strafe a fucking enemy, and with low sens it's even more possible when you have to move your fucking mouse twice. This whole witch hunt is a disgrace and a joke, and just proves how conspiracy theories are made up - the moon landing, 9/11 e.g. This community is sickening. Take a read inbreds hltv.org/news/9550-wrtt-react-to-thor-di.. hltv.org/news/9547-wrtt-out-esc-to-face-.. Most likely you wont read any facts, because you're toxic faggots with no common sense.
2014-12-02 00:30
Lol, if you're going to call out people for being ignorant try not throwing around buzzwords like "facts" and "common sense." You're trying really hard to seem like you're in some higher moral ground when you're just as much of a faggot as all these kids, just a better vocabulary and wpm with a different opinion. Get over yourself.
2014-12-02 12:38
Why wouldn't I be calling out those "buzzwords"? The demo with jw/MysaN got debunked so hard, yet kids in here still try to use it in their argument. So here we got the fact, that he didn't cheat and there's common sense of how he played. I am on higher ground than the average kid on this site. I don't fall for the .gifs as a proof. It's a joke. I seriously hope you can see it yourself. It's common sense that you, at some point, would aim at an enemy through walls even further away when you're trying to spot something. I can't be asked to go into further details with this.
2014-12-02 13:57
Debunked so hard? Just because evidence that doesn't hold much weight gets debunked, doesn't mean that it is a fact that the possibility of cheating is entirely debunked. Technically, until someone is vac'd, admits to, or somehow gets caught cheating it is not a "fact" that they are or aren't cheating. People throw around the word fact when they really have no idea what the fuck a 'fact' is, like you. There is no such thing as 'common sense' either (at least in the sense that most people use it, which is to be condescending), just another condescending buzzword used by arrogant kids like you. No, I don't believe the .gifs are 100% proof, fact, or real evidence. But they are of some interest because of the consistency and frequency of them happening. Want to know a fact? JW plays CSGO professionally. I can say that is a fact, because there is no evidence to the contrary, and plenty to back it up. JW is not a cheater. Nope, not a fact, sorry. There is no solid evidence to the contrary or to back it up, only speculation. He could be cheating, he could not be cheating, but it will never be a fact until solid evidence appears. I know it is extremely unlikely English is not your first language, but if you're going to form some sort of cohesive argument and try to act above everyone else on a place like HLTV.org at least make sure you don't have abominable mistakes like your post. If you want to sound smart, be smart with the language first.
2014-12-02 14:34
My first post wasn't me trying to act above others. I was stating my POV, which for the record I am in my rights to do. You on the other hand, are trying to angle my perspective a different way. THEY are innocent until proven guilty. The .gifs aren't evidence or proof of shit. They are poorly made and doesn't take any comprehension of sound, info nor the fact that he could be focusing on his mates. There's a lot of different factors that goes in here. Which by now seem like you also forgot. You'd rather want to discuss whether it's a fact or common sense. What you're saying is, is that it isn't a fact that any of the professional players aren't cheating because there's no solid evidence to proof their innocence. Again, I would say your angle is wronged.
2014-12-02 15:10
Yea, you have the right to state your opinion. But I also have the right to state that you're making ridiculous conclusions out of practically thin air, and calling people out who think otherwise. Making conclusions out of a lack of evidence is exactly what you're doing, as what everyone else is doing. You are NO better than anyone who thinks Flusha/JW/etc is hacking 100%. 'What you're saying is, is that it isn't a fact that any of the professional players aren't cheating because there's no solid evidence to proof their innocence'. Nope, they ARE innocent as there is no way to prove that they are hacking with certainty at the moment. It is assumed that they are not cheating, because there is no evidence, but you CANNOT say it is a fact that they aren't. In court, even if a person is proven innocent it may not be regarded as FACT that that person was innocent, unless the crime is 100% attributed to another individual. Yes, they are assumed innocent because there is no evidence to the contrary, but it is not a FACT that he is innocent, because saying that completely goes against what a fact really is. I'm not discussing or arguing with or against the Flusha situation, I'm simply pointing out your pompous and and surface-level view on the situation. Are they cheating? We don't know. No one knows but the players themselves. Can we prove it OR disprove it with 100% certainty ourselves at the moment? It's extremely unlikely. So, at the moment they should be assumed innocent, but them being guilty should never be ruled out. No one is right or wrong at the moment, there is no 'wrong' viewpoint in this situation, as it is entirely speculation. You can think they're hacking, you can think they're not, but either way no-one can be proven right OR wrong at this point in time. You are talking as if you're right, because you're speaking as if parts of your viewpoint that apparently dismantle the opposite are 'fact' when in reality they ARE NOT.
2014-12-02 16:29
"You're trying really hard to seem like you're in some higher moral ground when you're just as much of a faggot as all these kids, just a better vocabulary and wpm with a different opinion. Get over yourself." double standards at its best :)))
2014-12-02 17:00
You realy dont get what he is saying, do you?
2014-12-02 19:19
He's trying to be philosophical, saying that there's no way you can be 100% sure that no one is cheating (or not).
2014-12-03 09:50
Correct. People here on average are really young which mainly explains it.
2014-12-02 12:55
creds to you bro.
2014-12-02 00:38
Cant u guys see it? They hacked... Valve knows it and gave them a chance to leave the scene like heroes that were just trashtalked by community to not damage the future of CS:GO Pro scene . BB hackers ! hope to not see u again
2014-12-02 13:07
get laid virgin
2014-12-02 13:54
#472
hampus | 
World mjuddi 
LOL What I don't get about those Fnatic wankers is that they're blaming the community for they're own faults? Fnatic should change they're name to Pathetic.
2014-12-02 13:59
#474
hampus | 
World mjuddi 
..a little extra: You don't see professionals in other sports crying over the people shit-talking them. When you are in the spotlight you have to be able to take all critic, both positive and negative, fucking whiners.... Well, I hope they use some of they're sticker money for counseling then...
2014-12-02 14:01
#478
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
Wouldn't mind Olof , Jw , Krimz and Pronax finding +1 and moving org, would be best for everyone
2014-12-02 15:16
SK-Gaming, haha
2014-12-03 10:01
02.12.2014 2 + 12 = 14 - 2014 2 + 12 = 14 - 14 days 14 days = 16.12.2014 16.12.1988 = Mats Hummels was borned Mats Hummels was born in 1988 1+9+8+8 = 26 and 2014-1988 = 26 Dosia and Markeloff are both 26 now - JW - flusha Illuminati and HLTV confirmed You heared it first here remember !
2014-12-02 16:34
Krimz posts two letters and 400+ people go crazy about it. Typical HLTV thread :D
2014-12-02 16:30
what did he post?
2014-12-02 16:37
"gg..."
2014-12-02 16:58
and just for this, HLTV go crazy?! ok...
2014-12-02 19:25
they all want drama
2014-12-02 19:30
Disappointed there has been no kicks/quits yet
2014-12-02 16:32
dis gon be gud
2014-12-02 18:25
who else suspects krimz is just fucking with all you morons?
2014-12-02 19:27
HLTV.ORG COMMUNITY is a fuc* toxic, retarded. Only kids saying shits about jw/flusha/fnatic.
2014-12-02 19:27
n1
2014-12-03 10:01
gg
2014-12-03 12:18
steamcommunity.com/profiles/765611980316.. 5 days without connecting u.u
2014-12-03 19:16
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