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Why can't SK win this event?
China wlalale-.- 
In my opinion,SK has 5 good players in the world,WHy can't they win?
2011-04-25 05:19
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cuz the others are better :P
2011-04-25 05:22
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actually i made a blog about this or was it a thread?/ i don't remember... lets say it again... they orginally planned gux, forest, getright with allen/robban... no face and no dennis then... so that is what concerns me... allen is not that good anymore atleast(never liked him) and although i like robban he is not a top aimer nowadays.... so they replaced carn/dsn with robban/allen... which is not advisable... they were placing the same before and now also they cannot win just like before... i would say they chose the lesser combo.... so why the hell people expect them to win... they changed gux with face... which i think everyone will agree that gux> face(although i like face better)... so they definately had a lesser team than in fnatic... once again i ask why the hell do you expect them to win if they weren't before as they shouldn't be good enough atleast logically(motivation and chemistry is also a factor but atleast chemistry should go to older fnatic)... now dennis comes in... he is a newcomer and hasn't really destroyed everything yet... we do not know is true potential just yet... so i ask again why the hell are people expecting sk to rule the world cuz on paper and statistically/logically they are lesser than the older fnatic... i just cannot imagine why this new formula of theirs should work... although if they make the best team in sweden then ofcourse you shoul expect them to win... get right(calling) forest delpan gux moddii threat/pronax/carn/robban/walle/snajdan ... they are the only major callers available of whom two are out of touch(walle/snajdan)... or replace gux with some one of these caller if get right cannot call... but i think get right could be a good if this team can get their tactics right then they can dominate everyone... not the current sk...
2011-04-25 17:34
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That was nice to read, ty.
2011-04-25 19:48
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
+1 i love old fnatic
2011-04-25 20:52
eah! get right forest delpan gux moddii its good
2011-04-25 21:10
this lineup would own, but do not forget that in this high class of cs everyone can be beaten,
2011-04-26 01:15
This lineup would be very unbalanced. 2 much madfrags and no backup players, each of everyone of this players would want to be "the" star and i thing that if this happens they wont be together for a long time. But this is my opinion, who gives a shit? :D but nice read anyway. ;)
2011-04-26 02:10
-delpan +barbarr this fellow was very inconsistent.. barbar..not that great but can get the job done
2011-04-26 06:29
imo face is the best defender in the world and amazing 1on2 even 1on3 clutches when the other team plants the bomb, he's brilliant, really smart. The only one who's as smart as him is Neo and yes he may be smarter but it changes event to event, map to map
2011-04-26 08:29
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i like face better myself... but people insist that gux is awesomely better... some even say that gux is the best player in sweden which i think is moddii...
2011-04-26 09:51
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I think gux lost it, starting in april 2010. Just look at him now, Its not like he shines in LIONS to be honest. moddii is a wildcard sort of. Sometimes he just rush and goes sooo agressive, way to hard. It's needed sometimes but it may cost them the round, but aiming wise I think its him and f0rest, too bad ppl expect so freaking much from him, ppl expected that get right and f0rest would make SK win everything when they didnt win everything, barely anything for fnatic in 2010
2011-04-26 13:52
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my point exactly... they didn't win in 2010... and with a lesser or maybe equal combo they shouldn't be expected to win either... although i do believe that if they add delpan to the mix so that they have a pure awper then they will be doing a lot better... and i don't know why delpan went to fnatic( a better organization than sk) as he would be wining a lot more with sk... cuz if the guy finds consistency then he is ubeatable...
2011-04-26 14:07
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true that, sometime its a joy to watch him with the big green and other times you think "wtf is he doing?" but in my opinion RobbaN was way better than carn in this tournament (ig leader speaking) much much more secure except in the finals where they've been up for 25 hours playing and then waiting 4 hours for the final, stupid staff at that tournament, but yea they should get gt call easy matches and on praccs and then replace robban with another young talent
2011-04-26 19:48
Singapore Nephalith
In an ideal world, the team you've made up looks good on paper. A bit overkill in terms of skill. They might crush everyone at the beginning, but in a long run, I bet they will start losing their flavor and self-destruct. In reality is, a perfect team must always have a solid team leader (not IGL, team captain rather) that can hold the team together. Keep the motivation up and make every member in the team feels comfortable with each other (as in, socially functional lol). Conflicts are bound to happen to any team. This is where the importance of a leader comes to play. If the leader sucks hard, things are going to break apart. Success will be unlikely. GeT_RiGhT - I don't believe GTR is a quality leader. He gets bored dealing with the same thing rather easy. He's more of an opportunist imo. f0rest - has always been carefree. I doubt he would want to do something as boring as this. Delpan - delpan's motivation for the game seemed pretty high before he took a break from CS. I remember when he was without a team, he was like so eager to play NC and always make himself available for international games. But honestly, I don't really see him as a leader-like character. Gux - ... lol. MODDII - ... this one I don't think he needs any introduction... if you appoint any one of these players to be the leader, I don't think the rest of them will take him seriously. I believe in the Swedish scene, we can easily get a realible, well respected, and trustworthy person to be the boss. For example, cArn, threat, niko, dsn, and maybe Snajdan. They might not be as skilled as the five you mentioned, but they certainly can hold the team together and maintain the harmony within them. People are cheering NEO, trace, markeloff, GTR, f0rest because of how awesome they are. I actually have more respect for ave, TaZ, Zeus, cArn for what they have done for these players.
2011-04-26 14:06
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well that is what i said... i think get_right can call... but they would not do much without a proper caller... so i would replace gux with someone who is available... niko is a caller?? i didn't know that... cuz if he is then he could be in sk and be their main awper as well... i think they are suffering cuz they do not have an out and out awper... delpan would have made them better... well it is all wishfull thinking...
2011-04-26 14:10
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Singapore Nephalith
In game leader (IGL aka caller) and a team leader are not the same thing. For example, during the early fnatic days, cArn was the IGL, DSN was the team leader (captain). kuben is the current IGL of FX. TaZ is the leader. ^_^
2011-04-26 14:16
exactly haha! people hope that f0rest and getright, under new organisation and with worse teammates than gux carn and dsn, will achieve what they did with fnatic in 2009, that is just wrong.
2011-04-25 18:19
because FX/NaVi > all
2011-04-25 05:50
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2011-04-25 11:33
From this event, I'd have to say Na'Vi is on a different level with other teams. I said it long time ago, SK needs to cut Robban if they wanna get on top. Plus, GTR never stands tall against real strong teams. Only f0rest can get the job done. At the moment, it is very sad that no team can shake Na'Vi dominance. And my mTw needs to get rid of Arcadion if they really want a championship.
2011-04-26 09:28
lol because they make such simple communication mistakes if you've watched the finals.. that robban tk on face @ de_dust2 killed the match
2011-04-25 05:58
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that was so funny, you know pasha made 2 huge kills with the awp , and now robban thinks :"yeah now i will pwn with the awp babe (aims on the head)" and BAEEEM : two blue names in a row :D
2011-04-26 01:17
they played 8 or 9(I think it was) matches in that day, they were tired as hell,
2011-04-26 08:30
Italy cele87
because they played the finals at 3:40am and they played for 2days with no stop. btw they lose against fx not vs complexity.css
2011-04-25 06:24
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sorry, but FX played on the afternoon the final? Before the final FX played a really hard match vs mtw and sk??? not
2011-04-25 11:27
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SK gave it up
2011-04-25 12:55
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Well it's true, but not at all. If SK knew they could win the final, belive me, they would fight to the end, but since FX right now is on other lvevl with mtw and na'vi, they gave it up, when they lost their first map and got owned on the first part in de_train.
2011-04-25 16:12
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Man I watched this event to its end and SK were dominating 1st map then they gave it up for sleep they had no focus on the game and there was very bad communication too.
2011-04-25 18:44
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Man I aslo watched the whole tournament, and please don't tell me stupid things... "SK were dominating 1st map then they gave it up for sleep" don't make me laugh... they dominated what?! they won first part 10-5 [or 9-6] and that's dominating? if they could, they would win that map, do you think they would give up the match and more than 5000€ for playing 1 hour more? sure sure... they just couldnt beat them because they were lower. FX is the best team in the world with comeback, they have shown it many times and in hard matches; for FX this match was nothing compared to mTw match. If SK could beat FX they would play to the end, but since they saw they can't win them [they saw that in the second map playing as CT] they just got destroyed. And we will never know if they really gave it up, if I were Sk fan I probably wouldn't like to know that they gave it up... edit: but yes, it's easiest to say they lost because they gave it up. The thing is that SK is not on the level that FX, mTw and Na'Vi are.
2011-04-25 19:31
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well neo might be the greatest player who ever lived...
2011-04-25 21:34
1 reply
He is =)
2011-04-25 21:39
if they could, they would win that map, do you think they would give up the match and more than 5000€ for playing 1 hour more? I never played LAN from 10:00 to 5:30 so I cant answer you ;)
2011-04-25 22:18
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I neithar did that, but I can answer you: if they could win, they would fight, simple.
2011-04-25 22:34
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Italy cele87
i play one day star to 16:00 pm and finish to 24.00 am without no stop and it's really hard. they sleep about 5-6 hours and play again about 6-7 hours no stop, isn't so good in my opinion.
2011-04-26 08:22
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I didn't say it was good. omg read properly please.
2011-04-26 12:06
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Italy cele87
i'm asnwer to Simptrix he said "I never played LAN from 10:00 to 5:30 so I cant answer you ;)" chillout mate
2011-04-26 17:50
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then reply to him... anyways, np I am not "angry" lol
2011-04-26 18:19
SK had to wait for an hour before the final so they'd probably lost their momentum...and also if you watched the stream, there were no reactions, whenever they lost or won a round, it was like the same for them...I'm not saying that FX were not feeling the same, but it seemed that SK gave up the match IMO in a normal time SK would've beaten FX
2011-04-25 16:51
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i saw reactions on sk's faces when they lost rounds
2011-04-25 20:44
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Ok sometimes....for ex when they lost the eco round on train, they acted like whatever, and they know what losing an eco on de_train could mean, and in the end what it meant
2011-04-26 07:43
finished the match (mtw vs fx) was started the end, for me it was a point to bad for SK. FX came playin... and fatigue from SK, difficult to win. sorry mi bad inglish :(
2011-04-25 06:37
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2011-04-25 11:24
2011-04-25 16:51
true, true +1
2011-04-26 09:12
I bet Tyler will be here pretty soon.
2011-04-25 06:42
2 replies
Tylerdurden, where are you? -.-
2011-04-25 13:29
hahahahahhaha - RobbaN + moddiii :)) and let dennis be igl !! =))
2011-04-26 05:16
cause of the first map... I also don't understand how they couldnt take it... They had 13-5 lead and throwed it away. HOOOOOOOW I DUNNO
2011-04-25 06:43
cause SK in dd2 killed each other for several times at necessary positions ! also SK first have a lead in CT but FX could to save their money and win several rounds then have a lead in money and winning rounds. at last FX win the dd2 .
2011-04-25 06:48
SK are really improving. IEM Europe - eliminated in groups IEM World - eliminated in bracket Prelude - victory over mTw CPH - runner up to Fx I really think SK would of done a lot better against Fx if the final was played a more conventional time / format. They may not have won, but it would of been a lot closer. So next event, i expect them to place top3/4 with Navi/Fx/mTw
2011-04-25 07:41
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I wouldn't say they are improving. If they've met mtw in the semis they wouldn't be in the final at all. In IEM world like you said they were eliminated in brackets and why? cuz they lost against mtw and fx. In IEM europe they were eliminated in group (like you said xD) and why? cuz they lost against fx and mym(obviously they have some problem with russians cuz they always give them good fight even this tournament where they barely won them) and they drawed vs mtw. This victory over mtw was online so I wouldn't count it. And finally this tournament where they finished second cuz they lost to FX(again). So my point is that they are always loosing against same teams and there is no big improvement it is just matter of luck(who will be their opponent).
2011-04-25 11:19
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you made my own point. iem europe 16-3 loss to m5 now they beat them 2-1. how is that not improving ? How can you possibly argue that getting knocked out in groups, then bracket, then making grand final is not improving ? Yes they are still losing to Fx and probably will lose to mTw, but they arn't losing to fnatic or m5 anymore
2011-04-25 11:48
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Like M5 is strong team... cmon They are hard opponent just for them and I dunno why. Plus they barely won them now and I didn't said there is no improvement pls read my last sentence once again "there is no 'big' improvement" which is also answer to your second 'question', "it is just matter of luck who will be their opponent". Next tournament if they meet mtw and fx or na'vi and fx or mtw and na'vi i guarantee you they won't pass even group stage.
2011-04-25 12:37
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Guarantee? OK.
2011-04-25 16:44
They don't have chemistry in team, imo fnatic is better team atm and only thing that fnatic lacks is confidence to beat top teams.. They are always in close combats with mTw, FX, NaVi and they loose to SK, and that doesn't make fnatic worse team than SK. SK has GTR which was originaly kicked by SK 5 years ago (I think) and I couldn't believe that he doesn't remember that... f0rest isn't the same w/o cArn and dsn, robban time has long gone and dennis is good but still in transition to become great player.. That's imo what SK needs, they need walle back in game, to be 1st and only awper, they don't have one, which becomes clearly biggest fail vs teams which have some great awper (NaVi, even M5 or so on...) IMO, they should't done that thing with kicking moddii out of lineup, he is simply awesome player and far better than robban/dennis/face... Maybe he has some personality disorders (XD) but he is rly great player.. IMO SK lineup could be like this, and they would win more events than they do it right now -> GTR,f0rest,walle,face,robban(or some good igl, or walle can be igl and to keep dennis) ...
2011-04-25 19:47
You are forgetting that they changed lineup after that. M5 +twist (huge downgrade) SK +dennis (upgrade. Same level AT LEAST) That makes a big difference too.
2011-04-25 22:32
haha :D
2011-04-25 11:46
Totally agree about if they would have played it in the next day it would have been a lot closer. SK literally gave train away. SK might not have won but i am pretty sure it would have been as close as mtw game.
2011-04-25 13:27
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i really think they would've won -.-
2011-04-25 19:28
because robban is PRETTY bad.. he just kill on eco rounds.. he is bad awper, bad assaulter, average pistoler, not the best ingame leader.. sk needs an awper and an ingame leader.. robban should leave, join a GOOD ingame leader (i don't see a option, but i think that threat could do better then him) for the spot of awper, dennis should be sacrified :/ i think that he is very good, and he deserves to be on sk, but this time an awper is more interesting for them.. maybe manne or even khrystal.. i can't understand why everyone are not seeing that :o bye
2011-04-25 07:57
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"i can't understand why everyone are not seeing that :o" Because you are acting like they are robots. They are real people with real feelings, and to put it simply they don't get along with 'everyone'. They spend 80% of their lives with there teammates they need to be friends. This is the reason there is no "super team" in Russia, France, Portugal, Norway.
2011-04-25 08:16
why not - ROBBAN -dennis + carn +dsn ? cmon , f0rest and GTR choose robban and dennis , they have their opinion.
2011-04-25 12:48
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because its SK, not fnatic :D
2011-04-25 14:10
imo snajdan is a better ingame leader
2011-04-25 13:23
8 replies
+1 and a good awper (i think)
2011-04-25 19:30
snajdn is overated ! omg !
2011-04-26 09:50
6 replies
hey tyler... did your last acc get banned? :)
2011-04-26 10:24
5 replies
Yes you got me ! But I don't wanna send message to an admin begging for him to unban me. Just let it be.
2011-04-26 11:03
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sooo you not gunna troll agian? :)
2011-04-26 11:39
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I'm not a TROLL. The message is loud and clear.
2011-04-26 13:21
2 replies
can you guy stop trolling?
2011-04-26 15:28
troll getting trolled by a non-troll? ;o
2011-04-26 18:25
btw, gomez is right.. they are improving a lot and playing too late COULD make then worst.. i don't think that they have lost because of the time, but they could do A LOT better..
2011-04-25 07:58
Mexico tim7
cuz pasha is the best cs player in the world :)
2011-04-25 08:07
Japan kitzune
cause of pasha and neo and co.
2011-04-25 08:11
Because FX was on fire and nothing can stoped them. And wtf guys? Remember few months ago when everyone was telling that pasha can't to be in top team? Now you are talking about he is the best?
2011-04-25 08:32
because they are low? mhm, yeah.
2011-04-25 10:41
they have only skilled players without good tactics, old SK's > this SK
2011-04-25 10:42
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2011-04-25 13:24
2011-04-25 16:57
2011-04-25 10:45
because, FX was better
2011-04-25 10:46
because SK players are overrated
2011-04-25 10:55
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2011-04-25 10:58
PLAYERS are not overated, its the team that is overated, if they can replace robban with threat/pronax, you will have a winner team. IMO
2011-04-25 12:35
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pronax is shit... they need snajdan... and they will be a top team agian
2011-04-25 13:24
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I've played a lot with both and pronax is way better.
2011-04-26 08:29
2011-04-25 12:36
-1...4 AMAZING PLAYERs + 1 very food player but EASILY readable tactics !
2011-04-25 16:58
I dunt kn0w why people forget that robban replacement is impossible coz there is no better igl ! PS apart from those igls playing in strong teams like carn threat niko and pronax ! And SK are n0t winning just becoz they are n0t the best team they just have Gtr and f0rest it d0esnt mean that they'll m0ve forward ! The important factor why old fnatic used to win just n0t becoz of f0rest gtr bt also gux and carns strats ! SK MAY BE THE BEST TEAM ON PAPER BUT WHEN COMES TO PERFORMANCE THEY CANN0T WIN NY TOURNAMENT !
2011-04-25 10:58
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w0w you really like number 0 :]]
2011-04-25 11:41
I dunt kn0w why people forget that robban replacement is impossible coz there is no better igl ! snajdan is
2011-04-25 13:26
too many individual stars on one team, and because Fx/mTw/na'vi are better......
2011-04-25 11:01
On basis of gtr and f0rest they are m0ving up in the tournament but they'll never win coz since the beginning of this new sk we have always seen only 1 player plays if they win a single match either gtr f0rest or face or robban or dnis ! And whenever u see teams like fx and navi mtw fnatic plays we can see the best team play wid all people playing an important role in winnin a match and new sk suks high time even though love f0rest gtr still sk suks they need to show better coordinati0n if they want to win and be successful team ! Old sk > new sk
2011-04-25 11:07
Cause RobbaN wasn't too igl in final, they just played in base of individual skills, not in team skills. RobbaN is giving other players more space, and tries to have better individual skills than those tactical for team. And the other thought is that has caused excessive fatigue from the busy schedule of matches.
2011-04-25 11:10
what do you mean by old sk? walle, robban, allen, tentpole, zet? because thins line up above, would be good if zet went back to 2005 and the others to 2006-2007.. this sk is much better, they can do a lot more things.. what they need is an igl and awper, it is making the difference... an igl should use their players in the best position (carn is the best, he can make any player fit on fnatic's team).. robban need a good awper (he is terrible) and he should know how to use this line up.. AND he need to be on the level of his team, he is not an amazing player like the others..
2011-04-25 11:21
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When zet has played @ MYM he was in bad shape.Its like football when you grow you go low.
2011-04-25 11:25
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i remember jumpy being the worst in mym? :)
2011-04-26 05:24
coz get_right and f0rest left fnatic ;)
2011-04-25 11:27
Give them some time they will be on the top again :]. Look at REAL (i know it's football and it's not even close to counter-strike but they are great example how people can improve themselves), first they lost 5-0 to Barcelona and than they won against them. They stayed with the same team and with the same coach. So they needed only some time. And I think SK only needs some time to get use to each other. After all they are new team.
2011-04-25 11:28
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they allready have got more then enuff time... even zonic said that...
2011-04-25 13:27
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if zonic said so.. :]
2011-04-25 14:00
is zonic a fatgod for you or something? maybe he's buddah for you who knows
2011-04-25 21:08
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??... just saying that even top players think they have had enuff time
2011-04-26 00:15
Well, the event was really bad, starting the first matches at 7 PM the first day, finish at 2 AM and start the first matches of tomorrow at 10 AM and finish at 5 AM, you find it normal ? Guys have only 6-7 hours of sleep and they play until 5 AM, SK and FX weren't at 100%. I'll just wait for a final from a better tournament to see the real level from SK !
2011-04-25 11:35
blaq | 
Denmark Enk3lt
if u see on the paper, SK got one of the best individiual teams in the world with 2 insane fraggers in f0rest and GeT_RiGhT, i think it's bad they can't get more out of them, but it is all about tacs, igl and teamwork, and that they can improve to next year. i feel u guys who think they need a better igl, because i dont think Robban plays good, i'm not a hater of Robban, but i really dont think he plays well for this team, and as an organisation that wants to win multiple events, they need to get new teams. Now i saw GomeZ writing about it's real people and so on, and my response to that is ... take a look at other sports, soccer, basketball, handball, they all get new players or new coaches if the team doesn't win anything. i believe a bette igl, some more time with a lot of pcw's against good teams, and a lot of bootcamps will do great.
2011-04-25 11:40
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My response to your last sentence is that the problem with SK is they are new team already so it wouldn't be smart to replace players (robban :]). Why don't just give them some time?
2011-04-25 12:47
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2011-04-25 15:48
Erm your point doesn't really cut it in terms of football. Look at Torres, 50m transfer, 1 goal. And Chelsea (and other teams) keep changing managers and gain like a 2 second glory while teams like Man United and Arsenal maintain their supremacy (they change players yes, but the manager is key). Well admittedly Arsenal hasn't been winning anything. Yes yes I'm a United fan.
2011-04-25 16:50
Basically I personally believe FX, Na'Vi and mTw is just a level above.
2011-04-25 11:41
As Carn say's .... no matter how many good individual players you got if the comunication between them is not good ;)
2011-04-25 11:44
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yes but SK > fnatic
2011-04-25 11:58
5 replies
not! FNATIC best team ever!
2011-04-25 12:51
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in 2 matches (sk-fnatic), sk won,but still fnatic is better? ok, u know !
2011-04-25 13:35
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fnatic won IEM5 Europe and SK nothing.
2011-04-25 16:19
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2011-04-27 18:31
Al least for now YES, but tell me... what Sk won so far with the new team, because Fnatic already won 1 tournament ;)
2011-04-25 15:08
I think the problem is GeT_RiGhT baits his teammates far too much and SK doesn't have as many amazing entry fraggers as fnatic that allowed him to win all these 1 vs X rounds by shooting players with a combined 10hp in the foot/knee.
2011-04-25 12:33
becaose the leader is RobbaN.
2011-04-25 12:52
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2011-04-25 15:56
IMO the problem is definitly RobbaN , tactis of him really sucks hard! :s
2011-04-25 12:54
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wtf? They guy have years of experience, inst is fault if the communication is missing, is everybody's fault. Just stop saying that the problem is from a player. When you people says that you are not saying because it is right but because you don't like/like the player. HLTV users cant give an opinion without have the fanboy sentence. Just give SK some time. They changed the lineup a little time ago, losing two "home" players.
2011-04-25 15:59
cuz trace is on mtw and good awper :D
2011-04-25 13:13
-robban - dennis + snajdan + gux = own the world
2011-04-25 13:22
-robban +pasha -dennis +kuben -face +loord -f0rest +neo -get_right +taz GOGOGOGO
2011-04-25 13:23
Europe chupe
because im not playing for SK :D
2011-04-25 13:26
How long have mTw been playing together? NaVi? fx? They need time to adjust, its a fresh team, come on..
2011-04-25 13:29
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+1 , i agree, new team they need time and ppl pls stop judging SK... and like GoMeZ says, they are really improving, they "raped" mtw at prelude and, now they are runners-up of FX in just 3/4 months in team
2011-04-25 13:33
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1 word. Online. Besides, neither of them were using tactics.
2011-04-25 22:40
NaVi got IEM 2010 on 2nd month playing together.
2011-04-25 17:13
2 replies
almost the same case of fnatic in 2009
2011-04-25 17:23
still, how long have they been playing together now?
2011-04-25 17:27
because they don't have neo
2011-04-25 13:32
NEO | 
Poland Antro
They would own everyone if the team would look like this: -carn -f0rest -gtr -moddii -delpan But we all know it won't happen so they won't win anything unless they change at least their IGL
2011-04-25 13:33
Denmark Saiya_7
dennis is not good enough for sk, yes he makes a lot of kills and his great aim, but he is dying a lot and mostly as the first guy due to his bad movement (especially on train).
2011-04-25 13:35
1 reply
Agree he really does remind me of allen
2011-04-25 19:17
kalle tacky moddii barbarr -pronax +carn
2011-04-25 13:35
Everybody knows better than pro players... So why arent't playing in good teams? becouse you can just speak and no more..
2011-04-25 13:50
I play better than Dennis, why SK not take me? :D
2011-04-25 13:52
2 replies
2011-04-25 13:56
SK should pick oskar
2011-04-26 00:24
because they wait for final and fought with sleep, FX was on fire.
2011-04-25 13:54
1 reply
2011-04-25 14:04
Becouse with new lineup they still play old sk style, which wasn't succesul in the past and won't be in future. Simple as that.
2011-04-25 14:21
Maybe the outcome would have been different if the final was played the next day...
2011-04-25 14:47
2011-04-25 14:48
f0rest has playerd very well, but gtr didn't has good shooting and always sucked
2011-04-25 14:57
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Denmark tHm
Probably because CPH Games was so bad scheduled. All players were tired, and Frag eXecutors just finished playing mTw.
2011-04-25 15:31
gtr i forest need cArn!!!!!!!
2011-04-25 15:34
because they picked dennis instead of me
2011-04-25 15:37
look at their strats tyler² :D robban just copied a few of walles strats. they play like a usual 5on5 team thats it. nothing new. they lay on their experience as a player and try to headshot the opponents now the answer why they win quite often in praccs. because both teams play without strats. you saw it on the xperia play against mtw both teams played like they do praccs. and yes sometimes they even get crushed by 3rd class teams when they play with tactics. and when you know look at fnatic you see exactly the opposite new strats in eco's and co. some of them are even retarded :D they focus more on the tactics than on their aim part. does it work? noo you need to find a good mix of both like navi does
2011-04-25 15:55
SK somehow let the game slip on d2 and couldn't recover from that... will be interesting to see if they continue with that same lineup overall it seems like FX just handled the fact of the game being played in the middle of the night better, maybe being pumped with rage+adrenaline from mTw match helped a bit ;) that said i'm sure FX would have won, if the game was played next day, they don't have a single weak link in their lineup and sk does
2011-04-25 15:49
SK can't win because others can.
2011-04-25 15:50
-dennis +Gux = top1 imo
2011-04-25 15:56
jesus fucking christ... RobbaN >>>>>>>>>>>>> threat0nat0r pronax would be great, but threat? NO fucking way
2011-04-25 16:04
imo dennis,f0rest,gtr>robban awp if dennis pich up the awp and robban focus more on tactics it will be great :) its hard to be igl and awper at the same time ,but its not impossible we all know what walle was doing :))) imo ofc
2011-04-25 16:32
-Dennis +Moddii -Face +Delpan *Robban *f0rest *GeT_RiGhT = SK >ALL
2011-04-25 16:35
4 replies
+Delpan????????????? --' Delpan is low! High skill but low teamplay!
2011-04-25 16:50
3 replies
Delpan + AWP = WIN :D
2011-04-25 16:51
2 replies
Yes!! He is a good awper!! But teamplay is very important in actual CS!! Sorry for my bad english!
2011-04-25 16:57
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2011-04-25 16:59
Japan kitzune
SK cant win because they lack dsn and carn
2011-04-25 16:38
cause FX guys are playing together for 4 - 5 years...
2011-04-25 16:53
face = moody player Robban = probably the only retarded captain of a clan of cs 1.6 get_right = lone wolf...(plays for himself) forest = (mad fragger) cant win crucial games for their own clans.. random players ;;; dennis ...underrated player in standard of foreign professional cs players
2011-04-25 16:56
3 replies
you're better than them? face is a great player robban can play good, but not as awp or igl get_right - lone wolf yeah, but he can play in a team, he's not moddii forest - one of the best players in the world, i don't understand your words about him dennis - good player, but too nervous, he needs some time
2011-04-25 17:11
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maybe yeah i am little bit of harsh saying all these things...but really forest is a great player....but he could have achieved something had he stayed in is just like real madrid of counter strike 1.6... dude obviously i am not better than them....plz dont say all these things ... atleast for me i am not good as them they are respect for them...but i think forest becomes tensed when playing against teams like navi fx mtw ...they are constantly blocking sk's way in my opinion if they overcome this problem,,,then surely sk are going to win something... lol "you're better than them?" mate u just gave me a heart attack by asking this question :D
2011-04-25 17:31
1 reply
it was joke yeah :D
2011-04-25 17:47
Coz we have two better team: NaVi and FX.
2011-04-25 17:13
two simple answers: - late game - pasha
2011-04-25 17:14
2011-04-25 17:38
2 replies
absolutely right !!!
2011-04-25 17:42
every game u watch neo's gameplay !! with more games ...he amazes everyone by his tactics....if somehow pasha kuben loord and taz becomes more consistent then really no one can stop the poland powerhouse
2011-04-25 17:44
GTR f0rest Delpan Gux maddii
2011-04-25 17:39
robban haters detected. funny :-)
2011-04-25 17:52
SK are proving that aim is not everything, so they should start using some kind of advance tactics. Not Aim for Head and win, and only buy 5 bullets.
2011-04-25 18:07
Because RobbaN i think, i say it cause i saw some mistakes from him that fucked SK. First: I do not like he being caller. Second: At de_dust2 SK winning 10-5 and he 4-11. What i mean with it? If he follow the team, that match could has a different result. Third: SK on ct side, face back of 4 FX players and RobbaN shooted him. Fourth: pasha owned him. -RobbaN -dennis +THREAT +Gux or pronax and moddii. Sorry by my bad english, i hope you guys understand.
2011-04-25 18:08
3 replies
robban, robban, robban, robban and? robban....i feel sorry with you, really.
2011-04-25 18:18
yeah..that tk on face was FUCKIN FUNNY !!
2011-04-25 19:03
Do dennis play badly?
2011-04-26 11:15
SK had some time to rest, fx played almost non-stop, but I think after semi-final match FX just gained great confidence to win. SK players were tired and couldn't do anything about FX players owning them... they fought in first map and after close-map they probably gave up the game, this break after SK's semi-final (about 1 hour) made them fallen from the rhythm. Anyway, GG for both teams, fantastic tournament, I think no one of players/teams expected playing since 10 a.m. to 5 a.m. next day ^^ When you participate in some major event like this you can't know what will happen and in which conditions you will have to play...
2011-04-25 18:17
RobbaN was always the problem I have been saying it forever, bringing in two madfragger's inplace of one and a decent fragger/IGL was a huge mistake because the tactics are still bad! If we lived in an ideal world we would see : GeT_RiGhT f0rest MODDII GuX Delpan but we don't so we are going to continue seeing 1st : Na'Vi 2nd : mTw/FX 3rd : fnatic/SK 4th : M5/SK 5th-100th : SK until DRASTIC lineup changes are made.
2011-04-25 19:23
i said early that they wont win a tournament with the big teams in it since robban and dennis isnt as good as the others. there is alot of swedish players that is better then theese, 2 igls that i guess would go to sk right away, threat and pronax. khrystal, niko is great allaround players that they could have picked up.
2011-04-25 19:34
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I think dennis plays good enough.
2011-04-26 11:12
as Gux said "All the swedish players are spread out"
2011-04-25 19:53
Because for me FRAG is better (:
2011-04-25 20:18
Having top players is not enough. Better team beats skill.
2011-04-25 20:24
next lan event??
2011-04-25 20:31
because FX is better than SK if SK will change RobbaN on Delpan and dennis on moddii.. but it's impossible
2011-04-25 20:51
i cursed them cuz they won fnatic
2011-04-25 20:54
if allen was still in the line up people would probably spam CUZ OF ALLEN! REMOVE ALLEN! :P
2011-04-25 21:04
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i would rather write they dont win because they dont have allen :-)
2011-04-25 21:06
i want old fnatic back
2011-04-25 21:04
markeloff watched tournament and in final game SK vs FX he said what SK very disappointed him. "They play game based on aim. It's not true CS", he said. I agree with him and think it's major problem of Schroet Kommando.
2011-04-25 21:20
We seen a new FX! It was not just Neo caring them, the rest of the team was playing great to =) If they continue like this top1 forsho!
2011-04-25 21:45
GeT_RiGhT really did not play anything. BAD BAD
2011-04-25 22:41
Because GTr and her teammates think are the best, and FX, fnatic, mts, navi are mucht better then SK - easy
2011-04-25 23:01
2 replies
her :PPP hahaha
2011-04-25 23:03
1 reply
hahahahahha !!!!!
2011-04-25 23:52
dennis is doing good, he is improving and getting experience.. to keep dennis sk should change robban for walle, if not walle, snajdan.. if sk don't get walle or snajdan they should give up from dennis (sacrified) and robban, ofc.. to put threat and manne.. the only thing that i'm sure is that sk should remove robban as soon as possible..
2011-04-26 00:23
This was not normal SK imo but gg anyway when next big event ?
2011-04-26 00:52
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Israel selukvey
i guess dreamhack in 20 june or something like that..
2011-04-26 09:41
cause they game is skill-based. markeloff and zeus told it while commentating UA stream. They said that SK has only around 5 tacts each side for every map and that they believe that their aim oriented game will be enough - well its not.
2011-04-26 01:13
because other teams use their brains for play and not much aim ..
2011-04-26 02:00
POLISH POWER DUDE. Neo, Loord, Kuben, TaZ play this awesome game a long time, nothing can beat that!
2011-04-26 02:44
The reason is because FX had at least almost a 2 break before their quarterfinals match against TCM. SK played at least 5 hours straight and were probably very fatigued. FX of course did play well too.
2011-04-26 02:53
my opinion is that SK needs some very good awp player , they are good at T side , but they suck on CT side , and that is cuz they don't have good AWP player , something like Delpan ...
2011-04-26 03:40
sk managers are idiots.. they added khrystal, they kicked krystal.. they added delpan, they kicked delpan.. they added moddii, they kicked moddii.. they don't like 'rising stars' and at this time they don't have a player that they want to put on the team, they should believe in a good awper like manne.. they spent delpan, spent moddii.. i really don't know what they want.. AND THEY ARE KEEPING ROBBAN ALL THIS TIME.. OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
2011-04-26 06:28
Poland syriusz'
its not fx playing well, its sk played a very bad first map: dust2 - robban kills face on the middle (sk 3 vs 2 fx) - for me epic fail, pasha vs 3 sk players on b - face kills dennis (sk 4 vs 3 fx) to many mistakes second map: train terrible game sk
2011-04-26 06:54
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India h8or
2011-04-26 08:57
Israel selukvey
they was too tired they just couldn't play anymore..
2011-04-26 09:40
fnatic needs topfraggers and SK-Gaming needs better tacs and igl and so on
2011-04-26 08:30
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Israel selukvey
fnatic just need more time. i think fnatic will surprise this year. :)
2011-04-26 09:39
Israel selukvey
they could have won this event they just was too tired.
2011-04-26 09:37
1 reply
fx was not?
2011-04-26 10:25
ins archi forest dsn carn
2011-04-26 09:46
f0rest cArn GuX DSn GeT_RiGhT best team
2011-04-26 10:06
2 replies
No,I don't think so!Delpan>Dsn,carn is a good igl,but he is bad in aim.My dream SK team is: Delpan(igl) forest Get_Right dennis Gux
2011-04-26 11:04
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Argentina sebaxinho
oh c'mon man... dsn is the most underrated player of sweden, did u see the tournament? PISTOL ROUND = DSN OWNING EVERYBODY. he is so consistant, but if u want to > Na´Vi I would go with f0rest cArn (his strats are always fresh and good, plus his teams always has good chemistry) dsn (he's the captain of fnatic, and a consistant player with a LOT of experience) delpan (awp duel with markeloff would be interesting) moddii or getright.
2011-04-26 18:11
navi more stronger then sk
2011-04-26 10:10
sk=real madrid
2011-04-26 10:40
because SK lacks sharp AWP'ers. NEO+Pasha > RobbaN+f0rest with AWP. plus the polish guys shot way too sharp, simply. and dennis plays in SK (why????) he isn't shooting nearly as hard as MODDII did. thats why
2011-04-26 11:25
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Argentina sebaxinho
2011-04-26 18:11
Na'Vi wud be thinking "we can fck any team :P"
2011-04-26 18:23
1 reply
They can f*ck any team. They must think that.
2011-04-26 21:03
They have too much individual talent. The opposite of fnatic, of course fnatic has great talent but they need to be unleashed. Fnatic has better team play but they haven't UNLEASHED the talent in their team, SK has the exact opposite. Their teamplay is shit but they have TOO MUCH individual talent unleashed.
2011-04-26 19:51
Thailand hahahoha
they need an intimidating awper like trace neo markeloff delpan, robban sure as hell is not one and i duno if there are any others in sweden.
2011-04-26 20:30
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2011-04-26 20:50
2 replies
Thailand hahahoha
im not sure about manne's consistency but barbarr fyrr73 and niko they all miss too many shots, if u compared them to trace neo markeloff that is.
2011-04-27 00:24
1 reply
fnatic got the best awpers of sweden delpan and dsn
2011-04-28 16:13
OH NO! AGAIN THIS Tyler Durden. Whatafuck?
2011-04-26 21:02
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