i fell into a ring of fire
don't agree with 5-7 buff
I forgot to mention to keep the P2K as it is atm
pistol needs a complete revamp. I'm sick and tired of these adadadadad heroes that just run and jump around like retards. In 1.6 you had to actually stand still to be accurate with a pistol compared to this shite game where you can run around like a potato
Just please let me have the CZ and 57 instead of one and the dualies plz
Pretty good. Damage for tec9 doesnt need to be nerfed if you have all these other nerfs on it. It should still be usable.
i disagree with the 5-7 buff
duals is a spam gun you don`t need first accuraty shot,just increase spam potential with clicks
disagree with the 5-7 buff as well
they should nerf that way only deagle kill with one shoot in the head with helmet. also nerf by for accuracy on move and jump. tec9 ammo 20.
duels down to $300 not worth $500
the real tec-9 has a 32 bullet magazine, why should they change that?
usp-s should stay as it is right now.
dualies should get more accurate in general and maybe a bit faster reload time, no one buys that shit... only if someone is trolling :D
Guys he meant he wants the 5-7 to stay the same, not a buff.
Would be pretty a nice update.
I didn't mean the 57 should get the same buff as the deagle, I wanted to say that it should stay the way it is atm
Pistols shouldnt be buffed in any way, the ones that are op should brbe nerfed, i dont agree with this at all.
Tec9 should do less damage and less penetration.
Buffing pistol rounds make no sense. Trying to make the ecos even easier, what the fuck are you want m9
They should nerf the damage on the p250, 5-7, tec-9 and the cz to 99 dmg or less against helmet, it's absurd that they can do more damage than all the automatic rifles besides the AK and the SG 553.
Imo, the deagel should be the only pistol which is a 1 shot kill against head armor because it pays for it with it's very slow rate of accurate fire.
Every time I see happy 1 shot full buying people coming around a corner when he is on an eco, I feel like vomiting.
I would actually really like these changes
No pistol can have more than 12~13 bullets in first ammo.
How about leave everything the aame except the armor penetration power? No pistol can do more than 60 dmg to head armor except deagle.
I agree until you said tec-9.
Tec-9 still needs to be OP as five-seven, but with moderate changes.
Tec-9 needs only to get lowered ammo 18-20 bullets and max an additional mag + 50-70ms addition reload time(NOT PULL OUT TIME(last depending on how many bullets that we hopefully will see be adjusted anytime soon)).
Remember five-seven is also beast on long and short range, you cannot nerf tec-9 that much and not nerf five-seven
Running with tec-9 is really good and yes it should be kept, but its usually the mass spam of the bullets when you run and gun inside to spots, that is the game changer here.
if you got only 36 bullets you wont spent 2 magz within 10 seconds while running and gunning bomb sites and spots.
so basically you're saying lets make the tec-9 100% extinct and useless
i do not agree with the 57 buff
So basically OP wants the tec-9 to be useless yet be the second most expensive weapon for the T´s?
People are always overacting to things that are a bit overpowered. Look at the CZ. When it was at it´s best, people wanted MAJOR nerfs to it...and eventually got it. What happened then? Yes, they had to buff it again a bit, and now people want to buff it even more.
Lesson? Tweak things slightly until it works.
The tec-9 is too powerful now, but start with small nerf and see if it works.
I agree but valve takes 10 years to make a patch when its so simple changes
Leave the deagle and default pistols, nerf the P250 so it's not a 1 hit HS up close, completely fucking nerf the tec9/cz so they're useless, 5-7 should get nerfed aswell.
For what it´s worth, with regards to OPs list, my proposed list would be:
Glock - -20 bullets from spare ammo, no one uses so much ammo
USP-S - Keep as it is
P250 - Keep as it is
Desert Eagle - slight accuracy buff
FiveSeveN - Keep as it is
Dual Berettas - slight first shot accuracy buff
CZ75 - Keep as it is
Tec-9 - Reduce mag to 25 bullets, slight damage nerf
They should make dualies replaceable with cz, noones using the dualies anyways..
In general I agree with you.
I think the CZ is perfect right now. Neither op nor up, yet still playable. In general I agree with you.
just nerf the moving-accuracy of all weapons.
Its just a mess that pistols for 300/500 bucks have more damage impact than weapons for 3000.
Its just useless to win pistol round as ct because you'll loose anti-ecorounds anyway thx to the tec9
Please nerf !!!
Five-Seven is pretty overpowered too, you guys will notice it when they nerf tec9.
yup 5-7 need nerf also, 12 or 13 bullet or single magazine.
no pistol should have 100+ dmg vs helmet
rewards lucky hs too much
More bullets to usp? No, no one would use the p2k if valve do that, stupid idea.
that would be so sick. +1
Here is the real nerf that needs to happen, increase inaccuracy for all pistols while running so that running around tapping somewhat slowly still won't give you accurate shots as well as make the inaccuracy increase quicker so ADADADAD people won't be able to do it.
No needs to change pistols.. maybe buff glock coz 10 dmg per hit is fucking retarded
the deagle dosn't need more accuracy. Need to reset the accuracy faster after moving/jumping, that's the problem.
bullshit. plus you don't seem to realize that the five seven is almost as OP as the tec9 already.
I like the current pistols.
i would actually like to see a change to glock/p2000
Ts win pistol rounds all the time just by w+mouse1
Usp/P2000 - Same
P250 - Spare Ammo as Before Update
Deagle - Same
Five Seven - Same
Glock - Same
CZ-75 - Faster Draw
Dual Elites - DMG BUFF , FFS
Tec-9 - Same
bullshit update just nerf the tec 9 by 16/32 clip and we r fine
I forgot to mention to keep the P2K as it is atm.
no one cares game is shit.
agreed :) though the glock ammo isn't rly a problem xd Wouldn't care about it. Dualies defiantely have to get buffed if they're gonna be used at all :p
delete all the pistols,give us back 1.6 deagle
Honestly, everyone with a clue knows pistols need to be weaker, but that's clearly not the direction valve wants to go in. They've made this more than clear :\
50/250 for tec-9 and accuracy buff, so i can kill something with this shitgun
You shouldn't nerf the damage of the tec9. Just because it's OP now, doesn't mean it should become useless. The accuracy while moving combined with the huge clip size is the real issue.
The deagle also needs its recoil reset fixed.
more bullets for usp? what are you, a silver that spams it?
"CZ75 - slightly faster drawspeed time"
The return of the Awper's AK.
why would take away ammo from the glock. nice brain
Srop buffing deagle, its already more powerful than in 1.6