-minet +Friis i agrre on that.
Friis is a really good player and stable trough time. og0og0gog0o~ mTw make it happen.
no -ArcadioN if anyone, minet is good now
Maybe not. I remember Arcadion in Full-Gaming where he could lock down a site on his own and frag like hell. Now his level as gone way down and he can't frag as much as he used to. I believe if Friis goes to mTw it will happen the same.
minet? hes gotten really good if some1 was to be dropped it would probably be arcadion and ave igl again? but maybe im wrong
Yea right, mtw are getting into finals/semifinals almost every event showing off a great performance in every match except the last one. Kick minet, pick up friis and *BANG* they win every match. -.-
I'd call it lack of consequence/motivation (?) and a bad luck generally. They've been in many finals last and present year, but they simply can't break the curse of Na'Vi. They don't need to change their roster.
zonic, trace & ave are untouchables, i'd like to see friis in new line up, since Sunde left, zonic took awp, he's not madfragging anymore.
Minet is after trace,the secound best frager.He allways has also the most deaths.I didnt watch him play so i dont know how good is he ,but he was entry killer in many matches,and these kind of players ,who dont afraid to die are very important for team.
Don't blame me but I think that zonic should retire, his form lately is not good as he was. For me the problem of mTw is zonic, so for me
Minet is getting better and better in my opinion. No changes in mTw!
friis wouldn't shine as much as he does now with mTw... and besides that minet OWNS!!!! hes the only one that ALWAYS plays good.
friis is great but trace is awesome in the sniping position, he doesn't really need to move. if they could make it work that way, than i wouldn't mind, although minet has been playing solidly imo.
friis is great player, with good awp. but mTw have a good team, and i think don't should make changes
if in IGL role ave>Arcadion .. then -Arcadion else -ave
guess it's some thing like moddii with SK
As far as the criticisms about minet and trace are concerned, I think they've definitely proved themselves. I think mTw's BIGGEST problem is ArcadioN. He calls badly, and he makes VERY stupid mistakes that cost them vital rounds.
The problem is between ArcadioN and ave. Ave is NOT a mad fragger, so he should either be CALLING or he should be replaced. Same goes for Arcadion, except ArcadioN is not anywhere close as good as ave is at leading, so Arcadion needs to be replaced in my opinion.
If ave were a madfragger, it might be different, but you can't have two guys who are better thinkers than fraggers and expect to win.
+a GOOD/EXPERIENCED rifler
and make ave leader again.
Ave lead NoA and mTw to win almost everything they touched in 2007-2008... Why they switched him out makes absolutely no sense to me. They said it was so he could focus more on his frags, but he is NOT a mad fragger... He is a LEADER!
minet is pretty good
arcadion is the ingame leader it is very usefull to mtw understand? :/
I think I read somewhere trace & friis don't get along so well and that it's the reason why trace asked mTw to take minet, is it true?
minet is huge, it would be stupid to remove him from the team.
and trace is insane with the awp so I'm not sure it would be a good thing for him to become a rifler again... well, if Friis is better why not (I don't know much about Friis, I used to watch him a few years ago), and trace can still be back up awp anyway.
if arcadion leaves then ave must take the role.. but imo Ave is alot better when he isn't IG hes a madfragger now. when ave was IG he sucked alot(sorry^^) arcadion is a very smart player. :) and he can shoot some..... :P
-Arcadion +Friis (1st awp and trace 2nd)
minet is one of the best on mTw! lol
or +Frii but i rly want see back Sunde. :D
-ArcadioN, -minet, +karrigan, +Friis = Can be top1 :)
Just tell me why are u ppl so worried about mTw, fnatic, Sk etc
They know what to do so stfu.
-minet? you are f*cking trol thanks
Trace rifle/2nd awper
in important games he is not so good
-arcadion + friis
I said it like a million times.
minet is a beast! Arcadion sucks
Why do you make topic like that, there is no point of flaming minet, he plays very good, he keeps the team motivated and the team is pleased with him.
If you want to make arguements like these, go make them to mTw management, instead of flaming an very talented player in here.
And all of you who do - This and + That, are you better then the players u flame by that? Those players have worked hard to be what they are, most of you will never be like that. So respect them instead of flaming them.
ArcadioN ? Ok fucking shit!
Friis to mTw!
ps: since sunde left mTw trace is like awp/aimer?
i actually think that minet is way more "dispendable" than arcadion is
i mean if you know a bit about cs you know that arcadion is one hell of sick aimer and fragger,just watch him playing in FG or in SoA,hes simply freaking good he was even considered onliner back then
ofc that minet is playing good but his role is "Just" fragging and maybe thats the reason that mtw cant win 1st places,they need a solid awper and friis is a pretty nice choice,i mean that guy has plenty of talent and he single handles fnatic all the time when they meet,not many guys can do that
arcadion just said in an interview that there will be no change to lineup... nor would there be need of a change
The problem is that ave don't want to lead anymore. But yes, Friis is an awesome player, but it's not gonna happen, Minet plays very well.
ave & zonic stay thats 100%, if someone of these players leave than mTw never be the real mTw in the future.
I dont understand who writes - minet ?!?!? Ppls are u blind??? Hes young+sick playstyle.
The only player who is replaceble no other than Arcadion, ave can igl as he did in last years.
- Arcadion + someone from TCM. (Snappi, Friis or Nuggi)
i lol'd, -ave +friss, minet > ave just look the stats and watch the matches
ArcadioN is awesome. So is minet.
wait for Minay7 comment :D:D
-minet +Friis -ArcadioN +MJE -Friis +Sunde
god all u -this player + this player need a fucking life..
1stly i think u must be blind to say "-minet"..cause hes been a fucking madfragger 4 mTw..he has stepped up his game a 100notches and is a sweet n no-nonsense aimer.period.
2ndly about ArcadioN.idk why u hate him so much? and tbh..more then ul.mTw knows what they are doing.ave does not want 2 be igl.hes become the beast he was now and can concentrate on his fragging.and ArcadioN is just good enuf! one of the best igl's tbh :| just cause mTw lost a tourney ul start again with this rubbish..fucking trolls
3rdly all u -ave fans..go _|_ ur self.ave zonic are the heart n blood of mTw..even trace for that matter..according to me.this team is perfect.
Fx lost 16-0 to M5..why dont i see ne1 trolling saying -kuben or -taz? chuts!
fnatic also lost 2 navi..lets go make a topic -dsn + manne -cArn +keiz?
for me arcadion is much better then minet
-minet + Fr1$s :)
ARcadion was a free kill in all matches ^.^
stop with ave>arcadion as igl.arcadion is ATM better igl then ave for sure(just remember matches between mtw and fg) and thats the reason why he is in mtw.ave is fragging more now and the most important thing...he don't want to lead anymore.
and stop with -minet.thats ridiculous.
mtw are rly good now but they have just bad luck in finals
mTw need Friis really. Every game is a highlight for markeloff or Delpan. They are always MOTM against mTw if you ask. It's them who make a crucial shots cost a win for mTw.
- arcadion + sunde ofc minet was not bad at dreamhack
-minet ArcadioN + Friis whimp
-BERRY +ArcadioN => Sunde comeback
-BERRY +suraNga => mTw with no-change lineup, but TCM haven't igl
I hate this topics too. Everyone Stay. worst case kick ave, he could be replaced by a better fragger, but his teamplay is unreplaceable. why change, stay all. look and learn from FragExecutors same for years. none are really extraordinary players, except neo. they sticking together is reason why they play strong and coordinated.
- timm ArcadioN + Sunde or karrigan
ArcadioN taking the lead made it easier for ave to focus on his skills, and he has been playing extremely well since ArcadioN came in and took the lead
but well, i totally agree mTw needs some change, the only valuable players they could bring in are Friis and karrigan, cause they both handle awp well, and well i'm one of those who think giving trace the big green is a huge mistake (even if he's good with it), considering his skills with riffles (he's one of the 10 best aimers in the world imo, along with f0rest neo get_right Edward MODDII...)
but minet played great too, so it's hard for mTw to kick him, i believe there are two solutions :
1) -minet +Friis/karrigan
2) -ArcadioN +Friis/karrigan and ave takes the lead again.
With Friis/karrigan as primary awp, and trace as secondary, they could take it to the next level and win some major events.
Say what you want but zonic and arcadioN should leave. I know that zonic is a legend but let's face it: he's not good anymore. My mTw would be:
They would rape.
- trace, zonic, ave, ArcadioN, minet
+ markeloff, esenin, Zeus, starix, Edward.
Your Crazy, in this year, he is i think overtaken zonic as 2nd best fragger in mTw in 2011. Frags are not everything, but if you even pay attention to minet play style, he is quick and smart. If anyone it will have to be ArcadioN or ave... to leave, but there really good at this moment, top 3 consistent, but if they really want to get the top 1, they do need Sunde back or Friss! and ArcadioN or ave has to go -_-
u guys are are fkn mad about those - +
you cant -minet since hes a pillar of the team ffs
Friis is great ,but never -minet +friis ;)
LoL - minet???? LOLOL
-arcadion + Friis/karrigan
-minet? Haha nice try... He is really good right now.
Why switch minet ?! he is so good now...
minet en Arcadion are g00d players
minet should stay :)
ArcadioN is good.. but I prefer friis than him in mTw
ArcadioN played brilliant at Dreamhack, imo one of the best players at Dreamhack.. Give him a chance to find his place in mTw.. I bet he will be one of the best fraggers @ next tournament, even though he is IGL
friss minet trace karrigan ArcadioN
aww... another blablabla-thread -.-
arcadion is a beast and he fits perfectly to mtw. minet is a really good aimer but lacks on the tactical side imo.
friis is a machine, mtw would be amazing with him.
so, this time I agree
Friis is a great awper and could be the solution for mTw but it´s hard to tell who he should replace.
I think that ave and zonic are the next players who will retire in mTw and then Friis and karrigan can be good solution as replacement but kicking someone from mTw would be rediculous.
Its so fail to have to IGL'ing types. Look at fnatic with threat and cArn, people always say that counter-strike is a teamgame and aim doesnt matter. That is true to some degree, but come on guys. Aim is just as important as teamplay and all those other things. Theres a reason that the teams with the best aimers combined with teamplay win. Every team needs a igl, a sniper, 2 madfraggers and one guy with a special role.
mTw has 1,5 igl, and 3,5 madfraggers who tend to use the sniper. But they are the most consistent team, but something is lacking because they always loose the goddamn final.
lol minet steped up his game he plays very good right now so dunno why you wanna -minet.
+Sunde / karrigan / Friis
why change your lineup and start from scratch when ur a top3 team for 4 years in a row ....just play with the same lineup for as long as possible
the only time mTw should change their lineup is when they start underperforming, but they have managed to get top3 in almost every lan they played with their latest lineup.
-minet +karrigan :D
wake up pls.....in last two years minet is one of the best of mtw
imo best lineup
wcg 2009 final
mtw 2-1 sk gaming
they need frIIs f0rSuRe But i don't know which player should be changeD in mtwxD
2 igl's for what ? -arcadion +friis, ave > arcadion as mtw player, the teamplay is good, an probably the friendship
Maybe if this year change
Minet or Arcadion Than all tactics will be crash and mTw WILL LOSE evry mach something like fnatic -.- this year no change
but for next year maybe something change
PS : no time for practice but VERY GOOD TOURNAMENS IN FUTURE -.- GL ^ HF guys
HAHAHAHA! minet plays much better than arcanioN and ave ( but, ave is captain of mTw )
It's normal that mTw looses tournaments, they play in the groupestages vs a bigteam and they loose to them to avoid a bigger team in the quarters and semis, and when they come to the Final they play a big team and they can't do anything cuz they played only weaker teams before.
So -mTw should : stop avoiding bigteams in quarters and semis.
-trace should take snipe frequently cuz he is imba with it and it's not normal to play vs NaVi/fnatic in train with a primar sniper taking it 1/9 rounds..
and for fans they should stop -ArcadioN because it means -ave (cuz that guy don't want to lead again, he don't like it, FACE IT.)
- trace +wazorn
friis 6th man mtw
mTw isnt like fnatic/SK who mixes up team every time they take a beating. mTw believes in their choices and you can be certain arcadion gets a minimum of 1 year in mtw regardless of his performance. Thats just the philosophy of mtw, train hard together and result will come.
Somehow i would like Friis to come and take the main awp off trace´s shoulders, although trace is very good with awp, he is still the nr.1 aimer in the world :) And yes statistics/1on1 tourneys back that up.Its a pretty well known fact that friis can be somewhat of a special type irl, you could kinda compare his situation with MODDII i guess...
Although, mtw is professionals, and if Friis continues that high level of game, while mtw gets 2-3places the transfer in my eyes will happen sooner or later. mTw is very friendship/good chemestry minded, but when coming to professional orginisation, maybe changes is inevitable.
mTw after +ArcadioN
DreamHack Winter 2010 : 2nd
DreamHack Summer 2011 : 2nd
Xperia PLAY 2011 : 3-4th
Xperia PLAY 2011 prelude : 2nd
Danish Championship 2011 : 5-8th
IEM5 World Championship : 4th
IEM5 European Championship Finals : 2nd
If their goal is not to win but get podium places then no need for changes, otherwise -ArcadioN + Friis
EDIT: And im not saying they would do any better with Friis, but obviously they cant win with this lineup ._.
Friis is a sick awper but Markeloff would shut him down :(
trace > zonic = minet = Friis > ave > rest danes
mTw needs a beast with awp, if they want to win to the new SK with delpan or NAvi,
trace zonic Friis Sunde karrigan !!
ave zonic sunde mje trace
I remember before ArcadioN "retired" I downloaded a replay pack from him and couldn't understand why he wasn't in NoA (i think they were NoA at the time)
Now when I see him ... It makes me a little sad but maybe he can get back into that old form :D
For everyone that's saying that ave is a better IGL than ArcadioN:
Do you really think that the main reason for Full Gaming's success over mTw is anything else than tactics ? I don't think they had better aimers or anything (maybe better awp, cause Sunde was in the worst form in his life at that time), it's just that ArcadioN's anti-strating is the best in the world, together with Zeus's.
And he actually frags more than ave when ave was the IGL.
I'm not sure who it was, I think it was RobbaN, said in an interview recently that mTw is the hardest team to play against, because of their tactics.
The fact is, ArcadioN is doing his job as an IGL. He's not fragging as much, but neither did ave back in the days.
Now, as for the future, there are 2 ways to think about it.
First of all, CS right now is quite hard to predict. When teams like SK, Na'Vi, FX, mTw etc. are playing you never know who's gonna win, so it's normal for mTw to lose. The same thing might
have happened to either of the teams.
Second, if someone has to be removed from their roster it has to be ave or minet. Ave has the worst aim from the 5 players and now he's not the IGL so there's no real point in keeping him instead of taking Friis. Sure, he's the backbone of mTw, but so was Walle and look at SK now.
Minet is very back and forth in his performances so I guess he can be replaced too.
The thing that mTw need is a top 5 sniper and a top 5 rifler. Trace can do both, but not at the same time, so they need Friis to op.
Oh, and as for Sunde - he played TERRIBLY the last year. He had like 2 good matches (I remember one against fnatic on de_train) and he sucked in the rest. He was probably the best player in 2008 but that doesn't mean that he's going to shine forever...
Why do you always bring topics about changes in mTw ? They are playing well, and minet is really good.
dont think mtw is a team who needs to be desperate for changes. they still done good though i question arcadion's role of the team. I see that relationship ending faster than mtw changing minet only that they COULD get better. absolutely no reason for that. but they're in good situation even if someone would decide to put their mouse down - plenty of replacements available whether its friis, karri or someone of the TCM (or sunde - let a man dream...)
mTw have very good teamplay, and i dont think that they want to change someone in their lineup, even worse that friis is frager...
mTw make a top 3 at nearly each event, im not sure that they will take the risk to change their line up ...
Consindering performance wise it should be ave who should be replaced.
Friis has been smashing competition since Roskilde Ravens and in Full Gaming (aka p00nhandlers) he was a key player when they where crushing fnatic and such... He's a total beast.
-minet +Friis, I agree with this, mTw doesn't need karrigan (some ppl want him in this team) but they need true awper, trace isn't bad, he is just amazing with rifles so he can more focus on this if Friis join, I wonder why they kicked Sunde...he was good, not only in 2008..
Why should mTw listen to you? What have you achieved in terms of CS so far?
trace, zonic, ave, friis & karrigan, best danish line-up?
replacing minet is stupid, still young and already a very good player, i agree that friis should join tho
minet is one of the best at mTw.
ama ja izgleda kje treba facu da ti gu pucam
ave can be igl,friis sniper and trace,minet and zonic can be killing machinery!
A really good full time AWPer worked pretty well in SK. Mtw should give it a try, as well. ^^
dude, one thing is for sure.
With friss and trace, de_train would be locked down.
this is same cArn out from fnatic,lol flatis