They will derank eventually, whats the problem?
Don't you think you are making harder for valve. To start with, everyone complained that there were high amount of hackers...valve bans them. Now, everyone is complaining that valve banned hackers. I think valve did the right thing.
Do you realise it's dumb as hell to say the ladder is better when filled with cheaters?
All the good players have gone to esea, [*] for mm
Just remake the ladder so its based on percent. Only 0,01% of all CS players can be global. Only 0,1% can be supreme and so on.
it's all gonna stabilize, just a matter of time.
btw. fuck cheaters, there are still many of them in MMs. Way toooo many
... HLTV, home of the smartest people on the internet.
I got promoted from DMG to LEM in 5 games after being DMG for 6 months.. I dont think I deserve it tbh..
new supreme=ex dmg
new lem = ex mge
new glob= ex-lem
Ever thought of ranking up?
Jesus, it's not the VAC ban wave that ruined the ranking system, it's Valves hidden patch for it. They've made it easier to rank up, I ranked up on my alt/smurf acc from DMG to LEM in 2 games (1 win, 1 tie) but don't get me wrong, I've been LEM on my main for months.
Anyway, it's nearly impossible to play solo queue anymore as the skill differences are at times way too big, as in you'll get these "boosted" LEMs in your team when you're facing legit LEMs.
b4 the vac wave it was on DMG i think...the skill difference
Wait a month and everything will settle down again.
Lots of MM players went to Facit,Cevo,Esea couz of cheaters at MM, just like me
time will equalize the ranking system. When the best players reach global and supreme they will beat the players who doesn't belong in their current ranks and afterwards the whole rankingsystem will get back to normal if u can say so
I don't agree how many games did you lose to mge noobs?
most retarded thing i've ever head. i'd rather have games with no cheaters than games with the occasional noobs.
cheaters kept the ranking system more stable, you'd rank up as you win with a hacker, and derank cus you lost to a hacker.
So how big was this ban wave really? How many accounts and providers did they ban?
I went from LEM to Global like so fast it was funny, and everybody I played was shit. It was like playing with my nova/mg mates.
I don't know if that's because before everybody was cheating and I'm amazing or what xD
DMG rank is full of silvers aswell, wtf? Played one match on Inferno and there was guy who played full silver and got 3 kills and 23deaths
ayy lmao ranksystem sucks dick
its like christmas for supremes everywhere
Before the "Big Rank Up", I was one week Le, then one week Dmg and so on. It was so hard to keep my eagle by playing ALWAYS alone, even if I won 4 games at LE, after 2 looses and 1 draw I was dmg again. Now I instantly ranked up to Lem when the first wave of bans came, and just yestarday got a 16-0 win against some le/lems. IMO it s so easy because of the boosted mgs/novas/silvers combined with the so called "legit" players being banned.
edit: There are also still cheaters, every 2 days I play against one or I get a legit silver wallhacker with his silver friends in my team.
Since like 1 April or something like that most offriends ranked up to MG,MG2,MGE,DMG
yesterday i played with 4 mates, were all 5 globals and played 3 games. we won all 3, there were 0 cheaters and we won the games 16-6, 16-3 and another 16-6 i think. There was literally 0 resistance. n00bs with global... what the fuck is going on?
edit: there actually was one cheater in the first game but he couldnt carry because he was a mg1 with hacks
"you'd rank up as you win with a hacker, and derank cus you lost to a hacker"
I usually team up with 4 others, when playing MM. So that would not be the case for me. I was DMG for a looong time, and always able to fully compete with LEMs and Supremes - But unable to rank up due to meeting cheaters almost half the time. I get what you mean, but it's illogical, when you take this example into account.
Yes, solo queueing will let some double-AKs / DMGs slip through to Supreme. But I'd much rather have that than cheaters, any day.
omg stupidest shit ive ever read in my entire life
you're an idiot if you want hackers back in the game jesus get a fucking brain.
I was DMG before VAC ban waves. Now i am LE playing vs LE/LEMs. They are good but ofcourse compared to supremes they are meh. My brother is Supreme. We both were DMGs. Seing how some of his teammates and he himselft plays i have to agree. Ranking system is fucked up.
if Supremes play like mg1 you shouldn't have a problem ranking up to Global. i can't follow your logic tbh
Lol I noticed that too I was inactive for about a month then 2 days ago I started playing again and was 30-bombing like 2 out of 3 games and ranked up 4 ranks but it's not really getting more difficult
Endless crying from non-GE
We need more ranks
Supreme Global Distinguished Master Nova IV Elite Master First Class
cheaters will be back soon and boost then silvers and gold novas for skins, MM is like that since the start.
OP makes no sense...
cheaters and boosting DO make ranks meaningless.
What messes rank is only the fact that VAC bans players by waves (they can use their cheats - obvious as they are - for months before getting banned, gg VAC) and when they get banned so many games are reset or "reverted" so many players rank up more easily (but not that more easily) even though they will eventually get their real rank.
also don't blame ranks, if so many cheaters are banned, well, that means fewer "good" players as well( some people who cheated without younoticing, it happens, some people are shit whenit comes to spot cheaters)
real supreme is a hacker 8/10 times
If only people would care for their health and look as much as they do care for ranks ...
LoL almost every fucking game i get fucking cheater, they destroy this game. It's fucking retarded... I prefer loosing 16-0 to cheater whos spinning around and shoting hs while shooting in floor than guys i am playing agains... they let you get some round and then from ex. 2 0 10 they became fucking monsters 37 4 13 ...
The number of cheaters in this game is just riddicolous
Its true, Im getting people that arent buying armor!
My silver1 friend got to silver elite master. And i got from g1 to mg2
Everything will eventually restore back to balance. Just give it some time.
60% hacks detected now,gj VAC
I still get boosters about 50% of the time.
It's pretty damn obvious the ranks will re-stabilize itself after a period of time.
Noobs who got boosted will soon de-rank on their own.
Players who wouldn't have lost so many matches if it weren't for cheaters would climb up the ranks.
Advocating cheats just for the sake of old ranks is one of the most selfish + moronic shit I've seen in a long time. It takes a huge retard to make this kind of thread.
I didnt really know this cheater problem was this bad. After the VAC wave Ive pld 11 games with same people we usually play:
- "Forever Dmg" I had not rank up to the usual dmg-le-lem-le-dmg circle for months. I tought people are getting so much better thatn I cant keep up with my modest playing hours
- 11 matches, 11 wins. DMG to Supreme. I have never been Supreme, not even LEM for prolonged period of time. Now, our premaid stomps 90% of the opponents at our ranks. We just won 16-8 versus 2 * GE, 2 * SPRM, LEM.
This makes me sad. Not because cheater got banned, but knowing that Ive played hundreds of games and faced hundreds of cheaters. Sad part comes when we all know they will come back in couple of weeks. Our lobby used to be one guy hoving LEM/SPRM, 1-2 eagles 1-2 dmg. Now we are GE, 3 * SPRM, LEM.
I've been LEM for ages, and I ranked up to Supreme, without a win streak... I think it was a win and a draw after two losses. I feel I earned my LEM rank and I was at about the right place. I feel like I was given the supreme rank and it really takes the value of the rank away from me :(
I kind of agree, hard to find a good player around LEM - Supreme now. Mostly carrying a team where all got less than 15 frags, and I got at least 30, most games 40. All my recent matches, I've had 20 - 25 frags in the first half of the game, and we have still lost 6 - 7 rounds in that first half i the majority of the games. Only a few of them have I won 12 rounds in the first half with 20 - 25 frags. It's hard to carry all these new ranked players.
First people cry about cheaters and wants them banned and when cheaters get banned people want them back. Nice logic.
using your logic shouldnt you rank up to Global now since all the cheaters are gone and you are the only "good" player left?
EDIT: and btw - all these noobs you see are probaly boosted accounts, I have yet to play a MM game after the ban-wave without a boosted account.
last week playing i meet 4-5 hackers, 1 was german lobby with true aimbot (typical) and 4 of them was russians hackers who trying to hide it (2 of them was in my team)
you're literally fucking retarded
Yup, High Tier ranks are infested with low cunts now
I have a hard time believing the vac wave caused this, I think valve might've fucked with the algorithm. It's really bad atm so many dudes that end up on my team at global level can't even control recoil or counter strafe properly, either those motherfuckers were all boosted or valve fucked the algorithm of the ranks and now the skillgap is huuuge
Am I the only one who is consistently still facing spinbotters before/during/after ban wave? lol
But yeah the system is totally fucked atm, I got 12 losses in a row on supreme and still not deranked to LEM. Maybe 7 of those losses are to rage aimbotters, the rest I carried pretty much.. I update my VacStatus list and have checked all my past games and no hackers I've faced have been banned, which might have explained it.
One thing that bugs me is, people I play with on my LE smurf who were low end mge/dmg before all this happened are all now LEM and a couple even got to supreme - despite not improving in skill.
People are saying, they will derank eventually, but they're lucky enough to get people of equally bad skill and win 2:1.. If they keep this up they are going to get global, before learning the basics of the game like crosshair placement, recoil control etc..
bullshit, bad players gonna rank down again, the system gonna balance it out after a while. if not, everyone's gonna be global soon. ez...(doubt it)
i were supreme for 3 months before the wave and it was really hard to win a game as there were so many cheaters, now after the wave I played three games got 30 bomb every game against supreme\s and eagles and I got global, enemies was too easy.
ty for wave gabe
mm gone ! all cheaters or boosted
lel im legendary eagle... even pasha is global now. what happened?
i played mm le level...
6 - 14 on inferno opponet lead on T side...
we draw 15 - 15
You forgot that the cheaters were the ones who boosted noobs to high ranks in the first place. XDD
It will probably normalise soon. Just gotta wait for the boosted scrubs to derank.
OR its unbalanced at the moment and will stablize with time..
More like people get boosted into DMG/LE/LEM and they're bad.
When there were real cheaters, you would all come here cry and complain that you couldn't get to higher ranks because of them. Now that they're gone (imo finally, although I'm already facing many new accounts that play "surprisingly well") you're all crying again because it's not challenging.
Conclusion: the human being is never satisfied.
PS: the easy rank ups are not due to the vac-wave, but because Valve changed its ranking parameters
hltv cryin babies
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