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-ave +Friis / thoughts.
Sweden lidda;D 
Some of you may say: FINALLY! Friis is finally gonna play for mTw. Other may say that they would've liked to see ArcadioN go and ave to stay. I have no clue how the team is going to perform, they lost a great player in ave that was very good in e-Stars in my opinion and got an amazing AWPer which means that trace can leave the Sniper role and focus on the role as an rifler with the AK47 and colt. I'm so looking forward to see the new mTw how they will perform with Friis and I'm so happy that ArcadioN stayed, no one knows what he brings to the table and what role he took when he joined. What do you guys think?
2011-08-28 13:44
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better than -arcadion for sure. the best option.
2011-08-28 13:46
nope... they need -minet +Friis or -ArcadioN +Friis. AVE MUST be IN. but its his own decision cuz of school.
2011-08-28 17:28
I don't think that was a bad move, ArcadioN is playing pretty nice and besides he is the igl, ave is indeed a great player, but they lack a AWP which will make they much stronger now, trace will be free to hes best, headshot people hahaha And in the train: trace/friis awp, for that was a good move for sure, the best move would be add karrigan besides friis, but that was a good one too! imo
2011-08-28 23:25
either -ArcadioN or -minet for +karrigan and its a pefect danish lineup mTw trace mTw friis mTw zonic mTw karrigan mTw arcadion/minet
2011-08-29 23:03
both of them are better than karrigan
2011-08-29 23:08
no
2011-08-29 23:10
when arcadion played in FULL-GAMING he was their best player and minet is better too (he is just playing with better players and that is reason why most people think opposite).
2011-08-29 23:16
arcadion and minet better ? rates: Arcadion - 1.09 minet - 1.08 karrigan - 1.17
2011-08-30 00:08
rates doesn't prove anything
2011-08-30 00:24
ok , make pull or thread karrigan and arcadion/minet who is better and you will see what does people mean ..
2011-08-30 13:32
well people are blinded
2011-08-30 13:33
ok , pepole dont know , but you know :D
2011-08-30 13:36
who cares about ratings based on matches against bockwurst-gaming and team-kartoffelsalat. karrigan is good and has improved a lot lately but I doubt he is better than minet and arcadion
2011-08-30 19:10
Get real, FG disbanded 9 months ago @on topic, I agree that minet and arcadion should stay for team's sake, I mean if karrigan joins they'll have aggressive players only, they'll lack a calm, settled guy! Though I think karrigan > arcadion,minet
2011-08-30 04:40
top 3 in denmark 1.trace 2.karrigan 3.zonic/friis
2011-08-30 14:36
I dissagreee, ave is soul of mTw and he's just better to me, but it's only my opinion.
2011-08-30 15:30
imo perfect lineup, ArcadioN is really good, Friis everybody know-amazing
2011-08-28 13:47
friis is weak.
2011-08-28 14:15
yep, you are better
2011-08-28 14:15
#46
tHm | 
Denmark tHm
your mom is weak freakin fanboy
2011-08-28 18:06
me fanboy?
2011-08-28 18:11
#49
tHm | 
Denmark tHm
yep
2011-08-28 18:12
because?
2011-08-28 18:41
#53
tHm | 
Denmark tHm
you ae pole
2011-08-28 18:44
ur so smart.
2011-08-28 18:46
#55
tHm | 
Denmark tHm
yep
2011-08-28 18:47
friis > NEO
2011-08-28 19:05
;D
2011-08-28 19:16
That was not sarcasm.
2011-08-28 19:54
;D damn ;D
2011-08-28 20:04
But what he meant was, Friis with awp > Neo with awp :)
2011-08-28 22:38
u watch neo's awp? in my opinion play better then alot of main awpers from top teams + agresive play
2011-08-29 17:38
Delpan/Markeloff, friis, Tarce, FalleN, kARRIGAN ( Starix, Niko, RobbaN, f0rest and pasha. dont rly know about them ;P )
2011-08-29 21:45
neo's awp > karrigan's awp imo :) Add BARBARR and aslak in co. of the better awpers! I don't think that RobbaN, niko are better :D
2011-08-30 04:43
Ahh forgot BARBARR :( Just mentioned Niko and RobbaN for getting the list longer :D You think he's better than kARRIGAN :S?
2011-08-30 14:30
Dunno why, but when watching karrigan I get the feeling that he's unconfortable with it :/ sth like Robban was in SK! Btw how could we both forget DSN :D
2011-08-30 14:34
I get that feeling to :/ But when I look at the scoreboard, he's almost always on top :) Ahhhhh dsn, very smart player. one of the few in the world, who are top players with AWP and Colt :D IMO Friis has just the same Delpan had. He has been underrated the past years ( Delpan in MYM, he was a beast. And Friis in TCM ) Now Delpan plays for Sk and Friis plays for mTw :) They've both been mad fraggers in MYM/TCM :D
2011-08-31 02:19
think delphan awp are better but neo > markelofs(for me , he play so defense neo's awp are agresive)
2011-08-30 17:48
Polish players are known for being aggresive :D
2011-08-31 02:19
thats true :) like that play style :)
2011-08-31 17:28
thats probably why FX won every tournament this year!!
2011-08-29 22:58
nice one
2011-08-30 08:45
+1 #11
2011-08-29 22:50
+1 still sad that ave retired =[
2011-08-28 17:21
to be perfect KARRiGAN should join!!!
2011-08-29 22:41
Arcadion is the better igl or better at making strats thats why they brought him into the team in the first place. Ave didn't pull his weight as a fragger so now I think mtw has the potential to go huge.
2011-08-28 13:48
#4
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Greece her-1g
+ karrigan and they would be pretty much the best team in the world ( on paper :) )
2011-08-28 13:48
And who would they kick?
2011-08-28 14:01
#10
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Belgium FnX^
minet i guess but i don't like that either :)
2011-08-28 14:12
Nah, me neither.
2011-08-28 14:15
#15
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Greece her-1g
yeah minet but as i said ON PAPER :)
2011-08-28 14:16
- arcadion + karigan , karigan great play and great igl
2011-08-28 14:16
#16
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
When Arcadion isn't calling he is > Karrigan, and he is a better IGL
2011-08-28 14:17
yes yes , karigan > arcadion < karigan
2011-08-28 14:42
#25
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
y u no make sense?! If you look at past teams where karrigan and arcadion have played together, arcadion has usually been the better player.
2011-08-28 15:18
so u will bring heaton back? cuz when he played all those players were worse then him. its the past, atm karigan is wayyy better then arcadion (even if he focuses on aim and is not igl anymore). not saying hes bad though, i like him
2011-08-28 15:26
#32
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
HeaToN was years and years ago. Arcadian has still been playing in a top3 world team, and in better teams that karrigan. Which kind of makes your HeatoN comment look a little bit retarded. All I'm saying is people are rating karrigan better than arcadion, even though arcadion is calling (and a good caller at that), and in previous teams (from only a year ago), arcadion was a better fragger than karrigan, back when wazorn was calling.
2011-08-28 16:12
karigan is now one of the best fraggers in the world (there are only few players who can play excellent with awp and rifles, and hes at the top imo). i remember, arcadion was insane when he wasnt calling, but go watch karigan now, hes insane^2. so no if arcadion wasnt calling he still wouldnt be better then karigan
2011-08-28 17:00
#44
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
And then who would call? I guarantee if Karrigan became their new IGL, he would bottom frag just as bad, if not worse, than Arcadion. Also, his awp skills become pretty much irrelevant when you consider that they have Friis and trace, both of whom are better awpers than him..
2011-08-28 17:55
if karigan became new IGL he would frag better then arcadion does now, but dunno if he would be good at tactics. you said if arcadion wasnt IGL he would be better then karigan which is just wrong (anyone who watches karigan knows that and yes, i've admired arcadion when he was owning and i admire him now as IGL) imo karigan is better with awp then trace and friis are.
2011-08-28 18:16
#56
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
Karrigan might be better with awp than trace, but his is no way near Friis standard. And they wouldn't replace arca with karrigan ever, arcadion is all round such a better player in his role. I am a huge karrigan fan, but I just think its stupid when people say he is better than arcadion, considering history, and the fact that arcadion is a caller.
2011-08-28 19:03
i never said karigan is better than arcadion, u cant compare IGL with fragger, didnt even say i want karigan to replace arcadion (dont want tbh). i think karigan is better than friis with awp or at least equal. and btw, history is not important (u see, i knew u need heaton example ;D)
2011-08-28 19:25
#73
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
well no, friis is obvs better. and 2, why the fuck u here arguin then? the person i replied to said karrigan > arcadion... by3
2011-08-28 20:31
u replied to the guy who was wrong. so did i cu
2011-08-28 22:44
lol,look at this: mTw could've get karrigan instead of arcadion mTw>you So arcadion>karrigan Karrigan is madfragging only because everyone in his team can't do this.
2011-08-29 22:34
lol did i ever say mtw should change arcadion for karrigan? o_O never did and i dont think they should change him.
2011-08-29 23:07
kARRIGN might be better with awp than Trace ? No. kARRIGAN is a top player with awp, but Trace is better. Look at trace, he's top 5 in the world, and he has been awping for the most of the time :)
2011-08-31 02:23
Go hang yourself.
2011-08-31 02:22
I dont see ED1k bottom fragging even though he is IGL , so i dont think Karrigan would bottom frag ! Edik imo is pretty much a beast
2011-08-28 19:12
#61
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
ed1k is a beast. all im saying is arcadion was just as good as karrigan before he started calling. its the way cs works, players always have a worse k-d ratio when they call.
2011-08-28 19:19
#78
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Denmark AndersR
tbh if the IGL isn't bottom fragging somethings wrong.
2011-08-28 22:39
There you are. I've been looking for that comment ;)
2011-08-31 02:24
I dont know, Zonic has been IGL before.
2011-08-28 19:57
karigan is igl and also best fragger in team ... arcadion is igl and worst frager in team.
2011-08-28 17:15
Karrigan isn't an IGL lol, and arcadion is one of the best IGLs atm.
2011-08-28 17:23
karigan was a igl in ESC ...
2011-08-28 17:27
sure he was
2011-08-28 17:29
#43
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Serbia dajk
haha :)
2011-08-28 17:53
karrigan was igl in the match esc vs navi on gamegune
2011-08-31 20:05
Ever heard of pronax?
2011-08-28 20:30
exactly ;D
2011-08-28 21:34
#45
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
karrigan isn't igl. please stop making shit up.
2011-08-28 17:55
ArcadioN did call in full-gaming aswell, it was not wazorn.
2011-08-28 20:00
#76
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Denmark AndersR
Wazorn has never been main calling, it has always been ArcadioN :)
2011-08-28 22:37
In full gaming (which is not old :) arcadion was one of the mainfraggers. And igl. fuckin stupid retarded noobs
2011-08-29 23:01
when he was igl he wasnt as good as when he wasnt. and when he wasnt igl he was excellent but for me personaly karrigan now is better (aim) then arcadion was back then. and tbh, youre some angry retard, get some fresh air
2011-08-29 23:09
"angry retard". says man who writes every second post to contradict some1.
2011-08-29 23:21
said that cuz he started insulting. and dunno wheres the problem if i state my opinion (im calm and not insulting anyone unless someone else insults me) and all guys say is...when arcadion was IGL in full-gaming, he was fragging good. yeah tnx for that info lol (like i have said that he cant frag when he is igl)
2011-08-29 23:26
>state >opinion Yeah. Saying something that isn't true and then saying it's your opinion makes a lot of sense. I know I insulted you first, but it wasn't actually directed to you, I thought I was replying to that polish guy. I don't care though. edit: I am angry. I hate when people doesn't say the truth and ignores the FACT, even when the proof that they are wrong is there.
2011-08-30 03:54
so u can proove if arcadion wouldnt be igl that he would be better fragger than karrigan is? all im saying is that he wouldnt be
2011-08-30 06:22
No. My point is: ArcadioN was the mainfragger on Full-Gaming. And he was IGL there. FG has overcome MTW, fnatic, etc.
2011-08-30 07:03
yes i remember that :)
2011-08-30 15:14
karrigan* :)
2011-08-28 15:39
friis with awp , is that how they need
2011-08-28 13:55
orly ? I heard they needed him playing only with ump45
2011-08-28 14:46
ArcadioN must start to individual prepare. All know he can be amazing :) maybe he focus to the tactical side too much
2011-08-28 13:57
Look he needs to remake tactics a little bit to make them more friendlier to Friis and I dont think that mTw is independent like SK I mean that they just follow the tactics and making their roles really good but if you look on SK game they play individually a lot and improvise a lot thats making RobbaN more space to focus more on his individual game.
2011-08-28 22:54
mTw more talent than SK?
2011-08-28 14:05
What?
2011-08-28 14:12
u mean denmark more than sweden?
2011-08-28 14:18
Not really.. but with friis, mTw could surely do some damage :)
2011-08-28 20:08
#17
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
Can't wait to see them vs FX and SK
2011-08-28 14:18
vs NAVI would be better. xD I think they can beat them now.
2011-08-28 14:19
would be O_O match, I hope they will destroy them now!!
2011-08-31 18:34
me2 :]
2011-08-31 18:35
vs FX they could have won without the lineup change ;) ... now probably they will beat Na`Vi and maybe SK too
2011-08-28 14:32
#85
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
Na, something has been missing from mTw for the past few months.
2011-08-28 22:59
All I know is their CT side train is going to be amazing. ^^
2011-08-28 14:34
I'd love to watch Na'Vi or SK vs mTw at de_train :D it would be CRAZY ! :D
2011-08-30 14:38
why do you open this thread? you have main news for discussion rofl...
2011-08-28 14:49
So you can have something to ask about.
2011-08-28 15:50
#27
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Serbia corererere
mtw : minet zonic trace ave and friis arcadion hasn't skills so much and ave was igl before arcadion so he can take the igl job...
2011-08-28 15:27
He stopped being IGL because he could only focus on 1 thing at a time (IGL/Fragging) :)
2011-08-28 15:41
arcadion > ave aimwise, and by far
2011-08-30 14:41
I think that ArcadioN is going to perform a lot better now with Friis in the team, without ave it lets ArcadioN do exactly what he wants to do and not feel like he is the second brain of the team.
2011-08-28 15:53
i like new lineup hope this time they can take navi xD
2011-08-28 17:18
I don't think so... Markeloff will own them with his teammates agian.
2011-08-28 17:29
naiJ
2011-08-28 17:19
Why dont people post their 'thoughts' of this news on the news topic of this particular switch?
2011-08-28 18:12
Can you please stop with posts that has nothing to do with the subject? Thank you :)
2011-08-28 20:32
now trace rifler :)
2011-08-28 18:43
Sherlock Holmes everybody.
2011-08-28 22:52
lol
2011-08-28 23:28
xD
2011-08-29 17:55
i want to see zonic,arcadion,friis,karrigan,trace
2011-08-28 19:09
#79
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India h8or
me too
2011-08-28 22:42
#81
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Denmark AndersR
Minet is better than Karrigan tbh. it's just that Minet and Karrigan has different roles, but you got to remember Minet has better teammates around him, it was like when Gux changed from Fnatic to Lions all of a sudden he got a free frag role which he didn't have in Fnatic. Not saying though that Minet is as good as Gux.
2011-08-28 22:42
#87
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
I agree, having worse teammates can make average players look really really good. That being taken into consideration, it will be cool to see if Friis can still top frag whilst on the same team as trace and zonic.
2011-08-28 23:01
#91
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Denmark AndersR
most definetely.
2011-08-28 23:32
Friis is sick :)
2011-08-28 19:29
sad and happy, ave left friis in
2011-08-28 19:50
I think it's just fine, now all they just need is karrigan!
2011-08-28 20:05
stats speak for themselfs, he was the worst in the team. For many tournaments, below ArcadioN and below minet. So duno why people still say that would be better -minet or -ArcadioN instead of ave. LOL Gl in school for him, nothing more to add
2011-08-28 20:08
he wasp mvp in wcg
2011-08-28 22:42
ave? ROFL link?
2011-08-28 23:17
how you can be so dumb?
2011-08-29 23:04
yes,stats speak for themselves. He was the best in mTw at estars and always carying mTw in finals.
2011-08-29 22:26
i lol'd again. carry who? Last tournament he did, was the only good tournament he did this year. (if you trying to compare him with the rest of the mTw players) Oh w8 3 single headshots against na'vi, 1 round... gives him the top stats of his team like the my3m thinks loool He have been sucking ass since ArcadioN took in the igl spot, cause when he was igl, he had the excuse, that he was igl. So he didn't have to frag as much as the others, afer Arcadion took in he always had worst stats than ArcadioN and minet.
2011-08-29 22:46
You don't know a shit,you're looking on stats only. He is always first to attack the sides,that's why his rating was above others sometimes. Also his agressive CT play made mTw control the map and win round easilly.
2011-08-30 08:41
yeah GUX was always first frager in 2009 for fnatic and he wasn't the worst in his team, stfu i don't know any shit. Just watch the hltvs. Don't bee a stupid fanboy cocklicker of ave.
2011-08-30 09:17
lol,you stupid fuck mTw is not aim-wised team like fnatic or today's SK. Watch threat's interview on sk-gaming.com and try to understand by your small brain. I'm tired of morons that can rate a player only by the number of kills per round. sk-gaming.com/video/357261-threat_1on1_4.. scum
2011-08-30 10:45
scum? hahahah fu, ave was a dead weight in this lineup period. And talk to me, when you come to my country to work on construction or as carpenter. Fanboy scum.
2011-08-30 14:13
Lol,you have some shitty stats arguement,i have thoughts of threat as arguement. So you're owned,portugese retard.
2011-08-31 10:32
what arguments? lol i have seen their matches actually, a thing taht you hadn't for sure, Arcadion plays better than him, he frags more, and he even clutchs rounds, besides the fact that he call the strats, same shith with minet, minet frags well, is a pretty good entry fraguer and so on. Ave was the weak link in their team, and in a case of switching somebody to get a real awper, that was one thing they were missing, from that 5 ave imo was the one who got go. You're just a ave's fanboy that can't see the thruth so nothing more to add it. Retarded constructor helper :)
2011-08-31 14:03
Arcadion is better at clutching,has nice strats,maybe has better aim but he FAILS SO HARD. When mTw played fnatic in the beginning of the year on second map,they were up 20-19,one round from victory and he couldn't kill Xizt,who was moving up on ladder,just near him. Download the demo,it's not a pro level. vs navi,mTw were up 12-3 and he FAILS so hard at pistol. I can't believe this...They could've played their best maps after navi against SK and FX and maybe ave would stay in CS after a WIN...
2011-08-31 18:32
everybody fails sometimes, at times he fails, but most of the time he is a great player that helps a lot, for me one of the most skilled ingameleaders for sure.
2011-08-31 20:02
ave/ArcadioN greats player, Trace focus in Rifles, Friis AWPer nº1 in Denmark
2011-08-28 23:00
maybe +karrigan too? :D
2011-08-29 05:29
no place for him. every player is better.
2011-08-29 22:35
yeah thats true but i was just going by raw talent and by hltv stat :D but yeah mTw has really good teamwork as is
2011-08-30 05:11
+zet
2011-08-29 17:57
ArcadioN is obviously doing better now. Watch his match against WinFakt! Friis seems confused a bit, he's not used to mTw yet! Hopefully they'll give him space to be aggressive to fit his style! TRACE IS LOOKING LIKE A MADAFAKING BEAST YO! HE'S HAPPIER THAN TYLER DURDEN RIGHT NOW HE CAN USE DEM RIFLES YO!
2011-08-29 18:00
-ArcadioN +zet
2011-08-29 22:43
Lol? How on earth they'll minus their igl? You're the same as the retards who say -minet when he's the sole reason they even went to the overtime with Na`Vi in train.. Minet played better than trace and zonic so far in 2011.
2011-08-29 22:46
Now you are on drugs. Minet played better than trace in 2011? Trace is the most consistent player of mtw. He is always on top.
2011-08-30 03:56
Really? He only stepped it up in overtime against Na`Vi and that was a slightly stepping as well, baby steps you might say. hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=8296&ref=de.. And yes, check all the important matches against anyone, minet is always playing solid. hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=8290&ref=de.. hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=7685&ref=de.. And drugs were cool once I was your age, now they are for pathetic people.
2011-08-30 04:27
Yeah, nice Logic. You are basing your argument in couple matches in which minet wasn't even mtw's top player. I won't even waste my time posting the matches in which trace was top frag. There wouldn't be enough space to post all the links. And maybe you didn't stop using drugs, that's why you don't realize that trace is mtw's best player.
2011-08-30 04:35
Trace was the tournament MVP 2x this year. No need to say more :)
2011-08-30 14:46
i dont know why you guys aways say - ArcadioN, when he was at Full-Gaming they are able to beat mTw and fnatic (dont remember the tourney but was awesome) friis aways was amazing since SoA, now the tatics will fit better because trace isnt a real awp, and arcadion can be a great igl, now they have 1 awp 1 igl 1 allround player and 2 madfraggers like mTw.AMD, now they can reach something bigger :D GO MTW!
2011-08-29 22:47
it`s good cause,trace will rifle and be a good 2nd awper,and ArcadioN awesome igl,and in good days is playing very good :)
2011-08-29 22:53
i remember the times ... mtw sundeee mtw zonic mtw ave mtw whimp mtw mje and i say.. fuck all this shit
2011-08-30 10:16
F R I S S need more plays with mTw, but better option +ave;-minet =DD
2011-08-30 10:22
zonic last man standing: edit wrong reply:(
2011-08-30 11:14
like on SKgaming+Delpan.
2011-08-30 13:41
now all top teams have good awpers :)
2011-08-30 13:42
goodbye sk/navi.. friis was able to get TCM 14-16 results vs these teams. I think friis and trace is better or equal to edward markeloff / get_right delpan watch out! :D
2011-08-30 13:44
Both minet and ArcadioN are seriously underrated. ArcadioN has probably one of the best famas in CS today and despite being the IGL, is a key player during eco rounds. Same goes for minet because his deagle is sick and plays a very good supportive role with rifle too. With friis in the team, the man to watch now will be trace as opening frags are about to become his responsibility. As far as Zonic goes, do I even need to say anything?
2011-08-30 14:21
-trace +NEO<3333
2011-08-30 17:56
U cant not play cs pro level forever.Getting a good job and a nice wife is more important then every day playing cs for 6/8 hours.And Ave is smart enough to know that and makes this move now.Wish him the best in real life.
2011-08-30 18:47
Why? Shouldn't people be allowed to live their life as they want?
2011-08-31 14:47
#168
ckN | 
Estonia ckN
playing cs every day 6/8 hours, making money on it and travel the world is better than working every day 8-12 hours,sry
2011-08-31 17:44
So nice, would be more nice to kick minet too, and add karrigan.
2011-08-31 15:23
friis will choke at first lans and ppl will say that hes overrated,and then ave will get back to counter strike and will replace arcadion
2011-08-31 17:35
whatsup with the -minet crap man? i mean he's suck a sweet and no nonsense aimer n hes improved so fkin much! he so underrated n people just want him out cus they dont understand or hvnt seen him play? he is pretty much a beast on his own! yes ave leaving was a bitter dissapointment but i believe its a better move for mTw ..i dont believe mTw need karrigan. p.s : goodluck ave wish ud continue to play <3
2011-08-31 18:10
Nuggi is just as good. ide like too see KARRiGAN on notable. i also think notable need suraNga. Nuggi suraNga KARRiGAN BERRY snappi
2011-08-31 18:32
maybe now they can kick navi's ass, but who knows..
2011-08-31 18:39
VERTEX
7.10
AVANT
1.08
paiN
1.80
Rugratz
2.01
AVANT
2.12
ORDER
1.69
Bet value
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