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2011-09-22 16:22

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2011-09-22 16:23

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2011-09-22 16:25

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2011-09-22 16:47

Don't ask, DEMAND!!! :D

2011-09-22 17:52

:)) great comment

2011-09-23 15:34

2011-09-23 20:59

hahaha, nice one :D btw I've already seen nickleback playing metallica's sad but true, and this shit was pretty nasty :)

2012-04-27 14:37

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2012-04-27 16:52

even tho he´s right i myself dont know a single muslim who feels responsible or apologizes for that disaster, becuase it is obvious that it´s not the fault of an indivudual, a muslim in general. so i don´t really get the point or let´s say... i don´t understand he´s complaining

2011-09-22 16:27

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That's because you don't live in America. A lot of retards there.

2011-09-22 16:35

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hey, no one gave you permission to trot your retarded ass in on this conversation.

2011-09-22 23:43

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Thank you for being a great example of the above post.

2011-09-22 23:46

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You harassed me in another 9/11 thread with your inside job fairy tales, which you said werent fairy tales, but were just fairy tales using all the evidence of 9/11 truther conspiracies without saying flat out that you think 9/11 was an inside job, and this was done to leave yourself room in case you were found out to be lying, and im retarded? okkkkkkkk Ill keep that "americans are retarded" comment in mind next time i see you try to make arguments about subjects you know nothing about like metallurgy and structural engineering ALUL

2011-09-22 23:53

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Yeah, I guess you are right. That's why you could not prove me wrong there. Excellent argument and reasoning there my friend. Again, you just boasted my post above, thanks.

2011-09-22 23:58

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Its impossible to prove you wrong when you won't accept that you're wrong and that's all there is to it. You're the 9/11 truther version of this man: media.photobucket.com/image/nephilimfree..

2011-09-23 00:01

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I think it's now safe to say you are the equivalent of an animal in terms of thinking. Surprises me you have enough brain power to use the edit button.

2011-09-23 00:12

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Yeah, I get the same vibe from you when you make arguments from intellectual fields that you have no experience in, and when someone sets you straight you ignore them and say things like "I think it's now safe to say you are the equivalent of an animal in terms of thinking. Surprises me you have enough brain power to use the edit button." heauehuaheuaheuaheua

2011-09-23 00:14

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Dude, you are 14 years old. I'm studying Electrical Engineering. I do have probably 30 times more knowledge than you regarding that very particular subject.

2011-09-23 00:20

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As I said, you argue about fields in which you have no experience. Electrical engineering doesn't cut it when discussing architecture, structural engineering and metallurgy, fields in which I have studied for 4+ years while youre still asking for help in figuring out which cord goes into what slot in the back of your PC lolololol you see this? emhcranes.com/DoubleGirderCranes/DoubleG.. yeah I built that. whats your experience, soldering some wires? Get a clue on who the real retard is buddy :}

2011-09-23 00:28

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You are 14... -.- Clearly shows that you are uneducated because Electrical Engineering has a whole introduction just like civil engineering, metal is included smart ass. Sigh, you..

2011-09-23 01:51

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it does huh? Would never have guessed you've learned anything of the sort by reading your stupidity. let me just get this out of the way, im 21, and your mom and dad are brother and sister

2011-09-23 01:56

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Yup, resort to that type of trash talk little kid, that is all you can do when proven wrong numerous times. School school and more school is the way to go kid.. Dropping out is bad.

2011-09-23 02:05

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"Yup, resort to that type of trash talk little kid, that is all you can do when proven wrong numerous times." *sniffs* yeah, thought i smelled a little irony and hypocrisy in the air

2011-09-23 03:37

You actually built that crane and in your free time you sleep on hltv.org and argue with some dude about 9/11 ,an event clearly orchestrated by your idiot nation ? I bet it's quite a nice life to have , being a good engineer , a complete idiot and a computer nerd in the same time ? If you ain't black don't call yourself an american because if you're white , you're as european as I am. You'll build that crane at about 30 years old, when you will study another 4 years of architecture ,structural engineering and metallurgy and you will not be an idiot , like now , at 21. In real life , you really imagine that you're an engineer (xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa)? If yes , it's clear to me now why you're coming here @HLTV.org and pretend to be an engineer. No offence man , but you're just another FODDER who mainly imagines his life instead of really living it. You know , the guy , FODDER, who thinks he's a pro gamer , too smart to play cs at least in one team from all across USA ? That's how fucked up you are. He thinks is a pro gamer and you think that you're an engineer. I think computers really do some brain damage. You guys are really living the american dream and that's why you knocked down your WTC towers. Have a nice day and stop being such an idiot.

2011-09-24 00:25

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I wouldn't call him european, most europeans speak at least two languages ;)

2011-09-24 12:13

Lets see, I study Electrical Engineering and I have no experience regarding that very particular subject. Ah yes yes, I see your point. Enough, I can't take replying to an infant. Bye.

2011-09-23 00:23

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hahahahaha al-Kaedans have a great sense of humor :D

2011-09-23 00:41

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Do you see how retarded you look?

2011-09-23 02:06

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you are the retard here :D

2011-09-23 03:38

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yeah we can see that who is retarded.

2011-09-24 10:52

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That guy is pathetic LOL

2011-09-24 20:42

+1, there's many people from UA with stupid and retarded comments. Sorry for the other ukrainians but these kind of comment say it all.

2012-04-27 12:36

+1 i am going to U.s to do masters in engineering my aunt is a PHD from some university deh its just a wonderful country and a 9/11 thing by them was reallly sad..........!!! and i completely agree with u what dese pakistanis did in 9/11 dey should be banned.............they harbour terrorists look at OSAMA killing.......that was rubbish he was right in pakistan and they ISI from pakistan said dey dint knw abt. it how retarded americans were so hurt with that 9/11 wen it happened

2012-04-27 09:26

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2011-09-23 00:39

your country is more fail tbh :D hahah

2011-09-23 13:09

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You probably can't locate Sweden on a map kid :). Too childish to argue with.

2011-09-24 01:02

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2011-09-24 20:33

2012-04-27 12:38

lol you are such a nice person not only do you make fun of ppl that really are retarded but you disrespect the momerys of all the ppl that have passed on from 9/11lol you are such a nice person not only do you make fun of ppl that really are retarded but you disrespect the momerys of all the ppl that have passed on from 9/11. for such a smart person that you claim to be you sure are a dumb ass. for such a smart person that you claim to be you sure are a dumb ass

2011-09-24 01:11

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I did not disrespect a living soul of the 9/11 lost ones. My prayers go to them. If you however imagine things about me disrespecting them, I suggest you leave this forum at once. You are too smart to be here.

2011-09-24 01:14

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You just said a lot of Americans are retarded, where they not Americans that died? For someone who says all this about how dumb other ppl are you sir are dumb.

2011-09-24 01:24

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Lool, you really are retarded. I won't even try to set you straight. Hopeless case.

2011-09-24 01:30

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as i said for someone that says other ppl are dumb you sir are a true dumb ass

2011-09-24 01:31

"You just said a lot of Americans are retarded, where they not Americans that died? For someone who says all this about how dumb other ppl are you sir are dumb." so 9/11 forbids us to call americans stupid? that's so "jewish" =]

2012-04-27 11:46

how many Afgan innocent citizens have died because of this attack? I would guess they are like ten times more than the people who died in attacks on 9/11. Should all American people apologies for that???. Are your lives more valuable than theirs just because they are Muslims? That´s what you should consider you ignorant fuck

2012-04-27 18:06

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sorry your a little late, btw can u show me where i said our lives are more valuable?

2012-04-27 19:00

There are stupid fucks everywhere. Please be a bit more respectable. Also, 9/11 being a inside job is still just a conspiracy. Sure there's a lot of tantalizing evidence that points towards it, seems to fun to believe in such things for argumentative reasons that you're seeming to enjoy. But knowing how many insane martyrs still exist, that's more of a plausible idea (but that's personal my friend). I would never state that either option is a fact, that's highly closed minded to do so. It's a Horrid tragedy either way. Also hope you're not thinking that Americans are not aware of how corrupt our government is, no one here thinks highly of America. We're the bullies of the world as the great man Bill Hicks once said.

2012-04-27 14:46

i guess in your country that are more complaining about german nazi's i guess

2011-09-22 17:09

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welcome in 2011 dude

2011-09-22 22:16

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its more like 1946

2011-09-22 23:07

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orly

2011-09-25 11:54

i don't think the 9/11 was done by muslims and if it was, i don't think they were motivated by the qu'uran. and even if this was true, america fucking deserved it.

2011-09-22 16:38

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I can understand your hating for America mate,but I don't think that any innocent human deserves to die.

2011-09-22 16:41

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You are right innocent human do not deserves to die.

2011-09-22 16:45

i absolutely agree with you, but i wasn't exactly talking about them. what i wanted to say was that all those right-wing fundamentalist christian idiots that were supportin the US armies in the middle east (most americans did) are living in fear. they're getting raped by they're own stupidness, patriotism and arrogance and in that way, they deserve it.

2011-09-22 16:58

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I got your point. Indeed,a lot of religious and patriotic people are extremely narrow minded and waste their life in stupidity.

2011-09-22 17:09

they brought it on themselves.

2011-09-22 20:03

hey who here has been to afghanistan? anyone? i have and you should see what these people do to thier own kind. i had to respond to a vbied attack where these worthless fucking terrorists blew up a fucking school bus stop and killed 14 kids and 11 adults. but hey we dont need to be there, lets just let that happen all the time. please shut your mouth when you have no fucking experiance in any way shape or form. you arent working in government you arent a soldier you are just some asshat with a mouth. for the love of god i wish you worthless people would stop worriing about america and get your own country out of the 3rd world or do you need assistance? nevermind we probably already give it to your country which by the way i dont even care what it is because it doesnt matter. get this THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DONT CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. and youre goddamn right americans support our troops, and the ones who dont can honestly get the hell out of my country. good day sir

2011-09-23 00:20

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are you a soldier? fuck off. "or the love of god i wish you worthless people would stop worriing about america and get your own country out of the 3rd world or do you need assistance?" omg, nuff said, this shows how stupid you are, and how stupid is american people who support war (WAR IN ANY KIND)

2011-09-23 11:49

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are you just plain stupid or do you think i go to afghanistan on my free time? ofcourse im a soldier. im a combat medic and i have a purple heart(that means ive actually fought these faggots and i wish death upon them all). you people dont know shit about war. never been never will. i love the fact that some "peace loving" people like yourselves have such educated opinions on war and how we should conduct ourselves. ask yourself this when 15-20 douchebags are raining ak and rpg fire how would you react? ummmm let me guess you have no fucking clue because you were never and will never be there. please stop acting so mighty

2011-09-24 05:52

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as I said, fuck off faggot. People who support war must die so this planet can be in peace, whoever they are, americans/asians/afghanistan/etc. so Yes, again, fuck off dumb.

2011-09-24 18:57

u are so stupid, im not even make a conversation out of this. becouse you are arrogant and brainwashed so you probably wouldn't even understand what im talking about. bye

2011-09-23 13:04

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please do tell me what you are talking about besides hating america please tell me why you have such disdain for my people. and ive been around this world three times dont tell me im ignorant ive been there

2011-09-24 05:54

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#229 p.s. i don't hate america because hate is for losers.

2011-09-24 12:59

hahaha Your comments are from the guy with 15 Years old, or from a social malcontent. You believe in the fucking medias and the comments from politics that says "all Afghans are terrorist, we must send army to there" "all muslims and Iranians are terrorist, they want to destroy us" and all the people like you repeat the same bullshit. when in reality these kind of comments from politics or medias just hide the real economic political interests. well. but people like you never will understand. sorry for you fucking fagot.

2012-04-27 13:00

I find it ironic that you claim that "Americans don't care what you have to say", yet every time someone says something about Amurrica, I see a million Americans going off in all directions, proving it to all who still were doubtful that Americans are, in fact, idiots. Americans suffer from a terrible superiority complex. Americans *THINK* their country is the greatest because it has the biggest military (although China will leave you in the dust soon enough). They *THINK* they are the saviors of the mankind and god's chosen people and whatever else. They are allowed to kill civilians and invade countries because they do it for FREEDOM and in order to FIGHT TERRORISM and other such hypewords nobody really understands anyway. The only thing close to an identity you have is wars with just about everyone who either insulted you or happens to have some oil or other valuable resources, baseball, apple pie and pie-eating contests. I wouldn't call that superiority, I would call that inferiority. Christianity, Islam, Judaism and so on are all tools invented to keep the sheepling in form. All who kill humans for imaginary beings are scum, whether it's terrorists or Americans.

2011-09-23 13:06

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if i said finland is a bunch of baby killing rapists would you not say something. grow a dick and stand up for your home. im sorry im not going to let someone baselessly bash america im not im sorry it offends you but i would literally look you in the eye and do ten times worse if this was to my face

2011-09-24 06:09

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I am sure he wouldnt invade ur country and destroy innocent lives.

2012-04-27 10:47

When some of them kill innocent people then every muslim is bad, but when YOU american soldiers do it, oh, well, it was an accident, right? You thought the guy holding a camera was holding a fuckin bazooka, right? You are just brainwashed.

2011-09-24 20:47

"hey who here has been to afghanistan? anyone? i have and you should see what these people do to thier own kind. i had to respond to a vbied attack where these worthless fucking terrorists blew up a fucking school bus stop and killed 14 kids and 11 adults. but hey we dont need to be there, lets just let that happen all the time." Breivik killed dozens of innocents, i dont see the US rushing there to bring peace...admit it,it's not about bringing democracy and peace into the world, it's just about dominating it...

2012-04-27 11:49

America (as a country) started their existence from extermination of all aboriginal population. Today american terror kills most of people all over the world. Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, who is next? 3d world? Bugagagagaga :D How about 17 trillion debt? You and your contry owe all world, even the 3rd wolrd countries. So stfu little kid, your nation deserved much more than 9-11, hurricanes, tornado, subprime mortgage crisis and etc, etc, etc. If someday all american people die of black death epidemic, no one will give a shit. Exept of jews :D

2012-04-27 12:26

I suggest you watch Hurt Locker. That would probably give you an idea what Americans are doing in Afghanistan!

2011-09-23 04:45

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Dude, its just a movie.

2011-09-23 07:53

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Well yeah they might have their own personal reasons for being in Afghanistan. But they are helping Afghanistan in one way too!

2011-09-23 07:55

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2011-09-23 22:53

fake ass terrible movie

2011-09-24 06:09

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Haha if you say so XD

2011-09-24 06:44

go see green zone and learn how they attack your country with false information .

2012-04-27 10:12

The US as a whole didn't deserve it, idiot.

2011-09-22 17:32

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as i explained later, i didn't adress the usa as a whole. bye

2011-09-22 18:55

Thousands of people deserved to die cause of American foreign policy?! Are you serious?!

2011-09-22 17:56

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the case is that millions of people already died cuz of their policy

2011-09-22 18:00

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So that justifies what was done on 9/11?

2011-09-22 18:01

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no i didn't say that. i'm trying to say that every action has a consequence

2011-09-22 18:06

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Well that's obvious. But killing isn't the answer.

2011-09-22 18:08

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isn't the answer for me and for u, cuz our relatives, friends, wifes weren't killed by us army, no man i'm not saying its right, but i can't say what would i do if something similar happend to me

2011-09-22 18:12

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Really? You think you would be able to kill few thousand people that had absolutely nothing to do with your familly being dead?

2011-09-22 18:21

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do u remember hiroshima and nagasaki ? do those people had something to do with pearl harbor ? it's a stick with the two ends. its just tragedy what happend in NY, and even biggest tragedy what happend in iraq and afghanistan, in vietnam what they did to cuba venezuela its only what i remember

2011-09-22 18:35

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Oh my. Sometimes I think conversating is pontless. Of course what happened in Japan was horrible and wrong, but 9/11 was also horrible and wrong. And made no sense.

2011-09-22 18:35

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yes its horrible. sorry for being "pointless"

2011-09-22 18:38

USA have always been trigger happy since the country has been evolved. They've had more wars and guns (including the cowboy era) in a short amount of time than any country in history. Don't expect otherwise imo.

2012-04-27 18:30

LOL say that to the US ahahahahha

2011-09-22 20:04

Who fights with sword, dies with sword. I'm not advocating terrorists but it seems that the only language that Americans understand is the language of power.

2011-09-23 20:09

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And how did that work out? USA invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Pretty strange understanding of the language you're talking about.

2011-09-23 20:20

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Don't know about you Janusz but I have a degree from political science and I write features for a periodics you might have heard of: Newsweek, Polityka and WPROST. So I know what I'm talking about. America understand ONLY the language of power and terrorists know that. There is no other way to scare the shit out of Americans. They felt like islanders for centuries and what happend 10 years ago proved them wrong and the idea of complete immunity felt through. Why? Because of violence on American's theritory. What else could have been done by terrorists to scare Americans and show their weakness? This wasn't the beginning of what happened next. It happend some time before. The USA was involved in almost every military and foreign affairs confict there was since the WW II. They established shah's regime in Iran (Operation AJAX) got into the first Gulf War, Somalia etc. Americans are kinda selective in the field of friends and enemies, did you notice that? It's all about their own interest. Now we can easily say that both wars (Iraq and Afghanistan) have costed over 8 billion dollars. For what? Revenge? Don't be dellusional ;) It has always been for money (or gas) at least since the USSR felt down. Before that it was a little bit ideological (but more about the world domination though, the ideology was only a tool). Those are facts not some conspiracy theories.

2011-09-23 20:59

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You might have a degree in anything you like, but you seem to have completely misunderstood the complex situation we're talking about. I know about american involvement in The Middle East, and British involvement that took place earlier. I also know how American foreign policy was made since John Adams. If you want to talk about American brutality let's talk about Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia. Let's talk about Henry Kissinger and Nixon. That was more of an unjust war than invading Afghanistan. Americans might be nation that panics and draws the wrong conclusions but when they get back at you, there's nothing anyone can do, not even the UN. And explain to me what was the point of killing those innocent people in NYC? That you can kill american civilians? Of course you can, but what's the point of that, what kind of power does that act embrace? America as the worlds most powerfull country is full of egocentric morons who think they can run the place as they wish. Morons like Truman, Nixon, Ford, Clinton, Bush Jr and even Obama who keeps Georgies policies in place and even increases the amount of american soldiers in Afghanistan, keeps Guantanamo open, keeps indefinite detention and a whole bunch of things that we all hate America for. But that is not what we're talking about here. You say Americans only understand brute force. And I said how did that work out. They invade two countries and turn them to dust. Thousands of innocent people die. And that's is as wrong as what happened on 9/11 but what did it change? Nothing. Yes US spent a lot of money, to cover the cost of the wars. But they'll bounce back. And Bin Laden who was the messenger not only killed thousands of Americans on 9/11 but brought them to the Middle East and many more died. My point was people who did the attacks, are ideological pinheads that don't care about life in general. It doesn't matter if it's an American office worker or a doctor working in Baghdad. They're willing to sacrifice anyone to make their point. They wanted US out of Middle East, well that wen't well.

2011-09-23 21:30

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Actually that's exactly what I was saying ;) And yes, the purpose of killing those innocent people in NYC was very simple - to prove that America isn't untouchable and shouldn't stick it's nose in every conflict in the world. It doesnt even matter if it worked or not.

2011-09-23 21:42

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And this still has nothing to do with what I've said. That those attacks couldn't be rationalized in any way, cause killing innocent people isn't rational.

2011-09-23 23:13

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Depends on a point of view. Terrorist found it rational and I just said why. We, obviously, have another perception than they do but still they think it was justified. You don't and it's your opinion. What else don't you get?

2011-09-23 23:30

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My point is that this so called "opinion", by which you can justify killing completely uninvolved civilians is plain wrong and can't be justified.

2011-09-23 23:47

i think it's terrifying the fact that you, as an admin, has the nerve to post such an idiotic claim. you have failed on such a level sir also: #14

2011-09-22 18:55

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lol..he is questioning and not stating. he asked a rhetoric question, in otherwords he is opposing :D

2011-09-22 19:11

The only idiotic thing here is what you wrote in the first place. "America fucking deserved it", and then you try bo backpedal from it by saying only some people deserved it. Are you kidding me? You type non sense and then get mad when people pick uo on it. And I didn't make any claims i just asked a question about your post and it's implications.

2011-09-22 19:13

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im not trying to backpedal from anything, when that bosnian dude replied to me i realsied that i have not properly explained my opinion on the subject. so that post is not me trying to look politicaly correct, i was just trying to say what i really meant in a clear way. i just want to say again that the people that died are not the ones that i adressed. thank you

2011-09-22 19:23

But they deserve it. You can't kill innocent people all over the wolrd (like America do ATM) and than say-It's not me, it's our goverment. And i realy hope, that someone like Juba will make a big and nice hole in this american faggot, and in every marine's purple heart to :D Cause they are stupid idiots, and will burn in hell, after they pathetic death.

2012-04-27 12:58

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Go to hell, bitch.

2012-04-27 14:53

You know, you should be arrested because of this comment. In my opinion, you should be tied up in front of the plane which crashed. You do realize that those who did it had the same thought: "oh, le'ts do it, they deserve it!"? NO YOU STUPID ASS, THEY DON'T DESERVE IT, JEWISH AND GIPSIES DIDN'T DESERVE HITLER, CURDOS (I DON'T KNOW THE TERM IN ENGLISH) DIDN'T DESERVE SADDAM HUSSEIN, IN MIDDLE AGE LOTS OF PEOPLE DIED BY CRUSADERS AND MUSLIMS AND THEY DIDN'T F*CKING DESERVE IT. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO DESERVES TO DIE FOR THINKING LIKE THIS, BECAUSE YOU JUSTIFY THE HORRIBLE ACTIONS OF OTHERS WHO AT LEAST DIED AND WON'T BOTHER US IN THIS LIFE ANYMORE, AND YET HERE YOU ARE. DROP DEAD! NOW!

2011-09-22 18:17

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#14

2011-09-22 18:57

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There you are just trying to not look politically incorrect, but you show your real thoutghts when you say "in that way, they deserve it.". Damn, there's no way they deserved it at all.

2011-09-22 19:05

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you are still ignorant of the fact that im not talking about the people that died.

2011-09-22 19:15

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you are still ignorant of the fact that a nation is it's population, there's no way a nation will suffer something and it's people won't.

2011-09-22 19:22

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ye, but im not talking about the ones that suffered death.

2011-09-22 19:25

try to explain this to people in Afganistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Hiroshima, Nagasaki bla bla bla...try...will be interesting to hear the reaction on ur "nation is its population".NO ONE deserve this , there's no doubt about that... but when u do so much evil in the world, u have to expect something will get back at u...unfortunately it usually gets back on the heads of inocent people.

2011-09-22 20:11

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That's what i'm saying, no one deserves it. And USA were wrong by nukeing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and there's no excuse for that, PEARL HARBOR IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR USA BOMBING JAPAN, THE SAME WAY NOTHING JUSTIFIES THROWING AN AIRPLANE ON A BUILDING FULL OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. You see my point? I don't need to defend EUA's mistakes in order to attack terrorists mistakes. They're both wrong, any argument out of that line is just bulshit of the "same old victim of the same old Opressor"...

2011-09-22 20:18

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All this inocent people should change their goverment and stop killing people all over the world. But they won't, so stfu and take it right! They deserve it, they got it. It's simple! USA are killing inocent people all over the world ATM, let's discuss that. I don't know any muslims, who are apologizing for 9-11, cause even christians hate USA so much :)

2012-04-27 13:10

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Shut up, I can't believe what you are saying. Chirstians hate America is easy. Really easy. You know why? BECAUSE THEY CAN. In those dictatorships in middle east the people can't hate their fucking government, at least they can't say that. By your terms, it all would've ended in the cold war. "USA is killing communists,USSR is killing capitalists, fuck all let's throw nuclear bombs everywhere, they fucking deserve it." If you don't know any muslims apologising for 9/11 then you only know the radical ones, you don't know the big majority of the muslims who are taught peace instead of war. TELL ME HOW ABOUT STALLIN MASSACRED A LOT OF CONTRIES OF EAST EUROPE AND YOU AND YOUR FAMILY DESERVE TO DIE FOR THAT.

2012-04-27 16:49

you have no idea what happens in afghan or iraq pls stop

2011-09-23 00:22

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Cut the cr*p mate, im from Serbia, and that was just a tip of the ice berg, what was going on in Afgan or Iraq, second of all, u dont know with who ur talking, so dont jump to any conclusions, u ignorant child. USA is the biggest terrorist organisation, acctually. Btw, I cant believe u dare to talk lol.

2011-09-23 12:02

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2011-09-23 13:06

answer my question have you been? have you fought in war? seriously. i want to know. answer that then talk. i dont really care if your from serbia. hey guess what i dont speak for all americans but yes we did bomb japan. it happened. about 50 years before i was born and about 60 before you. i dont care, i cant change that now that but what i can change is what happens now and if the afghan people want my help they got it but if they try to shoot me its game over. and trust me if i cant get them from the ground its jtac gameover. seriously get off your horse it cant look that good from up there.......

2011-09-24 06:01

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U r sad little creature...as i said, u dont know with who ur talking....so cut the co**y behaviour and try not to think, ur brain will explode. As for ur question about the war, answer is yes I was. Now, shut ur brainwashed hole, u ignorant child.

2011-09-25 03:14

Agreed

2012-04-27 12:04

lol you sir are a dumb ass, thats like me saying someone should kill your mom bcuz i dont like her think b4 u post dumb fuck

2011-09-24 01:02

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#14

2011-09-24 01:02

Think before you post, douchebag. I dont care if you explained it, you sir are an idiot.

2011-09-24 20:37

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you don't care if i explained it? then you are an ignorant, narrowminded fuck. this converstaion is over

2011-09-24 20:47

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I dont care what you say, you have already proved my point.

2011-09-25 01:04

It was all planned to go like this. Unfortunately muslims had something that US wanted.

2011-09-22 16:41

28 replies

:(, Arabs in general have the most oil in the world, yet we fall below all the western countries in terms of luxury living. Fucking corrupted governments.

2011-09-22 16:49

27 replies

yeap. oil and it's price drivers people crazy.

2011-09-22 17:03

You make it sound like oil is the only factor needed to take into account. The reason for the West being superior(may sound arrogant, but whatever) is the industrialisation and overall our capability of being innovative. The Middle East has lagged behind for centuries. It's however sad that some of our countries have taken advantage of you muslims and other 3rd world countries, as they have the upper hand. I know that UAE isn't a 3rd world country, but you catch my drift. peace

2011-09-22 17:46

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Are you for real? Syria falls way behind Saudi Arabia for example in terms of economy, yet Saudi Arabia exports everything from the west, from gum to boots whilst Syria has a lot of country made goods. This as well falls behind corrupted governments that do not allow this to happen. We did not lag for centuries, we are forced to.

2011-09-22 23:37

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You did lag behind(all of the muslim states), wether you were forced or not.

2011-09-23 13:18

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Back to the main point, we are forced because of our corrupted governments.

2011-09-24 01:01

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And who's fault has that been?

2011-09-26 23:04

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honestly? the West, by wisely choosing and supporting all those corrupted dictators before they take over the power over someone that would try to make his country evolve without taking into account the Wests' interests.

2012-04-27 11:55

import*

2011-09-24 09:28

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Export dude, they take stuff, not give.

2011-09-24 17:06

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import=taking stuff export=giving stuff to other countries..

2011-09-25 11:10

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Mm my bad then, thanks.

2011-09-25 14:39

Yes but I don't think you know America as a continet has the 2nd major oil reserves in the world. BUT, why taking yours if you can fuck up thousands of people and show the world who the "enemy" is? digitaljournal.com/img/4/9/8/8/0/7/i/8/5.. Now Brazil's economy is rising because of their own coin, so they're called to be friends with american people, if not I'm sure Amercian's president (Obama, Osama, your sister, mines, whatever) will find "something" strange and will invade them... Anyway in a few years US won't be able to do anything and fall from 1st place in world ranking (yes that ranking they proudly like to be on top) and China will fuck everyone. Time to time. My self experience, I'm not used to treat with muslims, even if in my town there are aproximately ~50% of population (we're around 35.000), but I won't hate them because some organization under their religion has done that... And I don't want them to see me like a nazi just because I'm white.

2011-09-22 17:59

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that was a correct explanation,ur opinion is rly objective and got a point

2011-09-23 13:13

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thx bro :)

2011-09-23 17:10

Not true, Russia has several times more at least.

2011-09-22 17:55

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Nope, Russia is the largest exporter of oil, not the largest producer. Big difference mate. Edit: I've done a research on this, a lot of sites says Saudi Arabia is the largest exporter while others say Russia is the largest producer. I dunno which is true :D.

2011-09-22 23:51

Well if you have a monarchy that keeps the oil that should belong to every citizen, you've got this kind of situation. People in the Middle East should send those assholes where they belong.

2011-09-22 17:59

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You know nothing about these countries, in most of arab countries, the oil is really cheep for citizens.

2011-09-22 20:08

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I'm not talking about oil prizes. I'm talking about the standard of living. How I'm talking about simple citizens that don't have any ties to people that own oil fields. I see you know little about it. Read something about poverty in the Middle East.

2011-09-22 20:33

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didn't read well your first post.

2011-09-22 22:25

READ ?? i've been to the middle east , and bro they're living a lavish life style ... the middle class that is ... ofcourse they're always some uneducated people who work odd-jobs here and there who have a bad standard of living , but that happens in every country .... People in Middle east are extremely well off when it comes to standard of living

2012-04-27 11:40

You may also read about Norwegian politics towards oil. Here the majority of the oil revenue goes to the people of Norway and a minority to investors and private oil companies. The monarch gets zero of the revenue, which is how it should be.

2011-09-22 21:10

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not same politic, but yes it doesn't goes that much to citizens in middle east.

2011-09-22 22:26

That's not true. Saudi Arabia has it cheap yes, Jordan/Lebanon/Syria don't.. A lot more actually but this is what I know of.

2011-09-22 23:45

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qatar, emirates have it cheap too.

2011-09-23 12:17

It already started, riots everywhere and governments are falling down.

2011-09-22 23:44

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I wouldn't call them governments. But it's a good thing people are fighting for their rights and liberties.

2011-09-22 23:54

cnn started it again :D

2011-09-22 16:49

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hhahahaahah n1

2011-09-23 11:58

Bush did it himself

2011-09-22 16:50

I dont hate any religion cuz i dont believe in the concept of religion. But all i know is 80% of terrorists are muslims. :(

2011-09-22 16:54

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i think the last time a muslim nation invaded any western world country was in the 15th century. i might be wrong though.

2011-09-22 17:00

38 replies

We are talking about terrorists here.

2011-09-22 17:05

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my, point was: they have done little harm compared to what the western world did to africa and middle east. so terrorrists are not that terrorist afterall...

2011-09-22 18:59

15 replies

Kool, when are u joining Al Qaeda?

2011-09-22 19:03

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you lack basic logic and reasoning/argumentation skills. u also, obviously, can't read very well - because i never said that what they're doing was good, i said its not that bad in comparison... you are certainly brainwashed, go back and pave your cave you fucking caveman

2011-09-22 19:09

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If you're going to keep this up and talk how you talk, you won't say anything else here. No name calling or you'll be banned.

2011-09-22 20:35

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roger that i figured that him calling me a terrorist just because i oppose his prejudices was kinda primitive...

2011-09-22 20:50

8 replies

If you felt offended by his remark you should've reported it. No need to flame each other.

2011-09-22 20:51

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you sir need to calm down and think about what he said ktnxbye

2011-09-22 23:41

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I'm calm. And I read his post thoroughly.

2011-09-22 23:52

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then i dunno how you allow yourself to threaten the guy with a ban for saying what he is saying... mby you should read again, not just the conversation between you and him, but the whole thing from his 1st post in this thread. cuz it seems to be a touchy subject ;) know what i'm saying?

2011-09-23 00:31

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When I said that he will be banned I meant this part of his post: "you are certainly brainwashed, go back and pave your cave you fucking caveman". I'm all for fiery discussions but we don't allow this kind of talking. Know what I'm saying?

2011-09-23 00:43

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i know what youre saying tnx ;) nice youre being so strict, should check the other thousand topics where people insult homosexuals etc...

2011-09-23 00:57

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If I was strict he would be banned on site. I know there are abuses in may threads, we can't catch them all, but this one was pretty easy since he was talking with me.

2011-09-23 01:02

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i guess youre right

2011-09-23 01:04

The dictionary meaning of Al Qaeda is database. The name was used by CIA handlers of Mujaheddin trainees who were to fight against Russia. USA gave them a massive supply of munitions to save their own interests and fought a proxy war against Russia. Al Qaeda is not an organization. It does not exist and so, there's nothing to join.

2011-09-23 12:37

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Ok, lets call them "Terrorist Group Number 1" then. and this group is still recruiting and always will until they are destroyed.

2011-09-23 19:36

yes exactly...good point m8

2011-09-23 11:59

Hahaha, terrorism and terrorists are people who terrorize kid, so not calling America and Israel terrorists is arrogance. They call Palestinians terrorists and they are terrorized in their own land. They kill millions of people in Iraq and Afghanistan and that's okay. Yet when some retarded group supposedly blew up a building, they generalized on all of the Islamic culture and called all of us terrorists. Fuck off.

2011-09-22 23:49

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Who is calling "all the muslims" terrorists? I just said 80% of terrorists are muslims. If u can prove me wrong then i will edit my post. Secondly, when u say America is terrorizing middle east, can you give me any proper justification with that? From my point of view, i see that they are fighting against Taliban, they killed Saddam Hussain, they killed Osama and many others. I am sure if these terrorists will go and hide in antarctica, USA and other countries will send their troops there too.

2011-09-23 00:06

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Wow, just wow at the arrogance. Give me a single statement where Saddam supported terrorism on America.. Even if that did happen in your magical world, why would you slaughter the citizens of Iraq? So you're saying it's ok for Israel to invade Palestine? America's war on Afghanistan wasn't terrorism? In order to find a group of people you need to kill millions? No, you prove that those 80% are Muslims. As far as us Muslims are concerned, we do not consider them Muslims to begin with. You are plain clueless and much much arrogant.

2011-09-23 00:10

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Why dont you consider them muslims? Thats a very easy excuse to escape. They are 100% muslims because all their attacks everywhere are followed up with a video where they justify their attack with something like: "Allah wants this sacrifice and other crap" As i said earlier and i am saying again, all the muslims arnt terrorists, some of them are. And you need to accept that instead of defending yourself. The only thing you need to do is educate yourself and other muslims and to love all the religions around you. PS: religion is bullshit in the 1st place

2011-09-23 00:27

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Enlighten yourself first before you jump into arguments. There's a difference between Muslims and Arabs. Arabs are a race whereas Muslims are people who follow Islam. There's plenty more that you don't know and it shows in your posts.

2011-09-23 12:40

1 reply

Reply to wrong post? :)

2011-09-23 19:37

Forgive his ignorance. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

2011-09-23 12:41

1 reply

:(.

2011-09-24 01:02

OMG I cant believe what Im reading , if this post wasnt that tragic it would be hullarious... Dear child, you should be taken to a lab for examanation.

2011-09-23 12:05

ok so I dont support almost any foreign intervention, but youre statement is simply ignorant. Yeah our government is abusing our troops for private interests, but to say people generalize Muslims as terrorists because of 9/11 alone is ridiculous. thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attack..

2011-09-23 00:12

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The problem with these retarded muslim terrorists is that: not even their own religion is safe from them. They wanna blow the whole world.

2011-09-23 00:34

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notice that idiot has made no reply to that yet. Im not really surprised, its really damning to his "generalize muslims for 9/11 argument."

2011-09-23 00:44

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Im looking forward to the moment when America will implode. USA people is standing in colone for a job, while their troops, and goverment is spending money on killing civilians at the other part of the world. "America leader of the free world"...dissgusting....

2011-09-23 12:15

take it easy dumbass, you my friend are blind.

2011-09-23 12:14

Why then such a brave US troops, dont invade Iran?? Cuz they are scared sh*t of them...whats with Syria?? Why they didnt go to defend those civilians, like they did with Lybia??? Cmon, its well known that US invades only smaller countries with not that much army power....Thats why they scared of some more powerfull arab countries...US is so so sad, and probably will be ruined by their own paranoya, isolation, and wrongdoings.

2011-09-23 12:21

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its called being smart. If you would invade a country like IRan for example, it would have been WW3 Nuclear disaster etc. thats why they invade others, and for the oil ofcourse. :D. 9/11 INSIDE JOB FOR SURE!

2011-09-23 17:42

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hahahaha thats also called being chickensh*t

2011-09-23 19:25

because china and russia wouldnt be fond of USA invading iran

2012-04-27 14:34

Why exactly are you calling me an idiot when you cannot tell the difference between you're and your. That being said, are you seriously that retarded? You google any shit and take it for a fact? And even if that is true, who the fuck is you or your country to condemn the remaining above billion Muslims as terrorists you arrogant kid. "OKAY AM TAYLORTEE, SINCE I SEE ALOT OF PRIESTS GOING AFTER LITTLE KIDS AND MOLESTING THEM, I WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY ALL THE CHRISTIANS ARE RAPISTS." Please, stop following me and arguing with me because you obviously feel the need to justify your thoughts to yourself. Read more dude, read books, think, gather information, then form your opinion.

2011-09-24 01:07

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you still cant read can you? i said nothing about muslims myself, im saying muslims get generalized by others not just because of 9/11 like you said, but because of stuff like I posted. and no i didnt just google crap, youre just making excuses and dismissing evidence because the link i posted makes your arguments look dumb.

2011-09-24 03:18

Bosnia , Kosovo ...

2011-09-22 22:44

But all i know is 80% of terrorists are muslims. :( Islam doesn't promote what they do. No doubt most of them are but when you say 'muslims' this includes me and many more else in the globe who want peace. May be you can call them with the name which they call themselves e.g al-qaeda or taliban etc and may be you can stop ridiculing our religious beliefs(I'm not saying that you do) because of them and what they did with innocent people, that's all what we want from your side. Thanks

2011-09-22 17:10

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Agreed. But my question is: What is causing so many muslims to become terrorists?

2011-09-22 17:12

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Their ignorance of Quranic texts! And I would like to share with you that from my country we hear these stories that some people are kidnapped and forced to do these stuff but this is what I heard it can be or can't be true.

2011-09-22 17:42

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And i know that in many muslim regions, even in India, muslims are forced to study Quran and not science. The point is, the people who have the power in Islam, are a joke.

2011-09-22 17:44

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No one I know here who forces someone to study Quran and not science rather it is appreciated in islam to study science or whatever you like..what are you talking about? And again check the source from where you hear these stuff. The point is, the people who have the power in Islam, are a joke. To whom you are actually referring to? Keep in mind that if a guy lets assume my father forces me to study Quran and not science is my father would carry the blame or islam will? although islam never tells you to not to let your children study science?

2011-09-22 17:54

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It has been aired on new channels countless number of times. Children mugging up Quran verses all day long while they can easily be sent to free schools(specially in india) where they can study science and maths. I said people who have power in Islam are a joke because one of the Elite Islamic priest said that Mickey Mouse is evil and children should stay away from it and he declared Jihad against Mickey Mouse.

2011-09-22 18:03

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It has been aired on new channels countless number of times. Children mugging up Quran verses all day long while they can easily be sent to free schools(specially in india) where they can study science and maths. Consider asking the kids are they being forced or? and if they are forced why they do this with their child? And yeah of course Source or never happend! I said people who have power in Islam are a joke because one of the Elite Islamic priest said that Mickey Mouse is evil and children should stay away from it and he declared Jihad against Mickey Mouse. Source please or never happened?

2011-09-22 18:11

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Mickey Mouse is evil: foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423304,00.html I dont have any links to videos where it was aired. If i get any links, i will pass it on to you. And do u think that kids aged 7-10 or even 14 have that much brain to know if learning science and maths is much better than learning Quran?

2011-09-22 18:15

4 replies

Mickey Mouse must die! he existed? lol

2011-09-22 18:27

3 replies

:) ha ha ha :D

2011-09-22 18:30

2 replies

ok i'm off bye

2011-09-22 18:35

1 reply

hahahahahaha bravo.

2011-09-23 12:23

when someone invades your country , kill your people , steal your natural resources , then fuck yeah i would be so-called "terrorist" too ... You kill one of mine , then i have a right to kill one of yours , it's called self defending ... Who did muslims bombed , which leader did muslims killed ? See the world with your eyes and not with an eyes of media.

2011-09-22 17:48

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So u mean to say the below list of organizations is for self defence? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated..

2011-09-22 17:50

36 replies

What have done those "organizations" ?

2011-09-22 17:53

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I dont know. Maybe the shitty priests in Islam who teach that Allah is the only God and people who pray anyone else than ALlah are against Islam?

2011-09-22 18:06

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I didn't get your point , but nevermind cuz I'm leaving now , have some job to do ... take care bro ;)

2011-09-22 18:08

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No probs. The educated musims are way better than the uneducated ones. The educated ones are humble and noble people while the uneducated ones are highly aggressive and destructive in nature.

2011-09-22 18:10

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The point is, all in all, defending civilians by bombing that same ones. Pls dont defend no one anymore.

2011-09-23 12:27

1 reply

Go and read some news. There are more bomb blasts in Pakistan than anywhere else.

2011-09-23 19:30

mind the language..:\

2011-09-22 19:18

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Sorry, but i am talking about the ignorant priests who are misleading people.

2011-09-22 19:21

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actually its not any ignorant priests..its just that particular section of people who believe that this 'war' or 'jihaad' is a way of pleasing god. :( i dont believe in religion so it does not matter to me much but im just telling u 2 mind the lang cus other muslims might be offended :) neway i agree with ur views that its just the uneducated n 'narrow minded' muslims who are blowing up the name of the community.

2011-09-22 19:27

9man FU :D Cause to be honest I do agree with him. :P

2011-09-23 04:59

3 replies

SUKME!

2011-09-23 07:12

2 replies

I see Bhaxr is becoming your inspiration!

2011-09-23 07:14

1 reply

na just picking up some words , dw not ingame tho XD

2011-09-23 07:27

Its amazing that when a person is attacked by an army with out any crime committed by him and he tries to save his family and kills a soldier he will be considered as a terrorist and when the same person gets killed with out any reason just because he lives in a Muslim land no one cares about him. I'm not supporting the above list of organizations rather the point is do you think what is happening with the people of Palestine, Iraq etc is OK and they deserve it?

2011-09-22 18:07

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The problem is, muslims arent blowing up the entire world, they are blowing themselves up along with the entire world. I see in the news every week that bomb blast happnd in Pak and 50 people dead.

2011-09-22 18:08

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I'm not supporting the above list of organizations rather the point is do you think what is happening with the people of Palestine, Iraq etc is OK and they deserve it? you didn't answered it. The problem is, muslims arent blowing up the entire world, they are blowing themselves up along with the entire world. I see in the news every week that bomb blast happnd in Pak and 50 people dead. So what's your point I fail to get it?

2011-09-22 18:14

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1>The innocent people never deserve it. The terrorists do. 2>The point is, educate yourself and the people around you. The illetrate muslims are not a threat to hindus, christians,jews etc. they are a threat to humanity and to muslims themselves.

2011-09-22 18:21

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So we come to the conclusion that those who don't teach their kids or people around them are to be blamed? right? :) So we shouldn't blame islam because of the ignorant people.

2011-09-22 18:33

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Well, thats correct. But that happens the most in Islam. Do u even know more than 2 muslim scientists who have won Nobel prize? Answer is NO. Because the muslims are not being educated correctly cuz of the narrow mentality.

2011-09-22 18:55

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_sci.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Moeen_Nawazish dawn.com/2011/02/01/pakistani-teen-break.. pakium.com/tag/pakistani-student and there was another girl who made a recoed in a-levels.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_.. the literacy rate in the Muslim country is like Libya saudi arabia iran etc is higher than the India what does it prove?

2011-09-22 20:02

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Don't feed the troll. :(

2011-09-22 23:59

I am talking about the prestigious NOBEL PRIZE. Not about kids who get some good grades. If they do something good in the field of medical and science, then i will surely respect them. But getting good marks is nothing when u are comparing him with a scientists. And regarding the 1st list. That list contains the names of all the muslims scientists EVER. I am talking about the current era. Yes i agree Islam has given a loooooooooooooot to the current society. But not anymore!!! youtube.com/watch?v=tIMifWU5ucU Check the above video.

2011-09-23 00:21

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Dear friend, you should be banned for talking, and to be allowed to talk or think, ever again. That kind of brain is a shame for human existance. Pls, dear, stop talking and thinking...pls... :(

2011-09-23 12:31

4 replies

Why, whats wrong in my post? Can you point out any incorrect fact apart from you being jealous and angry that most of my points are correct? Please see the video and then come back and reply to me.

2011-09-23 19:33

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Please dissapear from the face of earth...thnx

2011-09-23 19:41

2 replies

Ur anger makes me happy. But plz read: hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=87679#r2314..

2011-09-23 19:43

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its not anger, child...just im dissgusted. Now, please, stop talking. thnx

2011-09-23 19:47

Barak Obama won a Nobel prize, so....please, do us a favour and go play in the sand.

2011-09-23 12:36

1 reply

So did Arafat.

2011-09-23 23:05

Barak Obama won a Nobel prize, so....please, do us a favour and go play in the sand.

2011-09-23 12:36

4 replies

Oki and what did he do for science? Also he is one of the many hundreds. SO whats the big deal? Wow just one example and u win? ROFL.

2011-09-23 19:32

3 replies

OMG u r clueless boy...I cant talk to u anymore...

2011-09-23 19:34

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Thanks. But i would really appreciate if the Islam community does what it did in the 10th century to Maths and science. That would be great for humanity. But looking at the current ignorance, i still dont see it happening in the next 50-100 years.

2011-09-23 19:41

dude stfu ?

2012-04-27 14:11

earlier i thought only poverty is driving the youth towards terrorism, people get promised to get some decent money for carrying out terrorist attack. take for example Ajmal Kasab..the lone terrorist who was captured. his family is very poor. he did it only for money ...BUT there are examples where people from well to do families turned out to be terrorist where money was not the factor...the bastards who brainwash and teach extremism should be tourtured to death for ruining such good lives.

2011-09-22 19:24

1 reply

I agree

2011-09-22 19:46

One of the most ignorant things I've heard about the topic.

2011-09-22 18:07

7 replies

and why's that ?

2011-09-22 18:11

5 replies

As much as American foreign policy is bad for the people in the Middle east, it's great for your leaders. I don't get how people can stand the way things are there. I agree that Americans are a nation of reactionary panicers, and made the wrong decision by going into Afghanistan and Iraq. Well their basic principles considering Middle East where wrong from the beginning. But that doesn't justify killing.

2011-09-22 18:19

4 replies

eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth

2011-09-23 01:39

2 replies

lex talionis is so stupid, that's how ppl thought 4.000 years ago.

2011-09-23 12:04

Yeah great point. Ancient, ignorant verses is what we need in our discussion.

2011-09-23 20:23

You don't realize the simple fact that 9/11 was an inside job . No one believed it , even Muslims thought it was done by Al Qaeda , but AMERICANS themselves released documentaries giving sufficient proof that 9/11 was probably staged. Now as you can see , the government of the USA don't give a damn about the people . Forget the middle east , they're screwing with their own country with all the capitalism .... When it comes to power they don't think twice . I personally know people fighting in Pakistan and Afghanistan protecting the locals there , and they themselves say that Osama bin Laden is just a name , a name that unlocks any country to be invaded without question ... You get all your information through the media , when the people who stage these things CONTROL the media , how can you believe ANY of the crap that they feed you with ???

2012-04-27 11:49

2011-09-22 18:29

Eye for an eye is self defending? It falls back to what? 1st century? Before Christ? In your country if a guy kills you father u get the right to kill him? ARE YOU IN CAVES MEN ERA?

2011-09-22 18:24

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If someone killes my father ONLY cuz he is a muslim i sure would kill him , and ofcourse that's forbidden everyhere ... wait , so if someone started killin brazillians in your country , u would let that go even if it could be u someday ? edit : and u don't even have to mix religion here , it's called love .. i love my parents most and if some random guy killes them on the street i couldn't accept only a jail for him

2011-09-22 18:53

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"i couldn't accept only a jail for him " There is where barbarism begins. We have laws to deal with this. And if USA started killing brazilians, i'm sure there would be some kind of response, like a war or something, but in civilized ways, that means, trying to kill the less innocent people as possible, because nowadays there are things called HUMAN RIHGTS, even there's a war right. When you go after innocent people, you just become as wrong as the one who offended you first.

2011-09-22 19:10

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i just wanna end this with my answer to the topic that noone should be apologizing for 911 .. american goverment brought that to themselves and they should be apoloziging to their own people i'm off of this topic :)

2011-09-22 20:03

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Exactly, i would rip out his heart and make him eat it...then he can go to jail, and law can deal with him...oh, wait, Im a lawyer aswell...lovely.

2011-09-23 12:40

"i'm sure there would be some kind of response, like a war or something" When US Declare war You Don't have A Chance dude and no "HUMAN RIHGTS" will save your ass

2011-09-23 01:48

Russia Invaded Afganistan then US helped Afganistan in creating rebels called taliban to fight them. now they are against them can you give me examples ???

2011-09-22 19:27

sorry but in my point of view invading a country (Iraq) with false statements of WMD's is terrorism, being bombed in my own country (Palestine) is terrorism, getting attacked by drones and my whole family being wiped out is terrorism, its media who label it terrorism and feed u words like that.

2012-04-27 10:59

daveandgracie.com/crap/captainobv/Captai..

2011-09-22 17:17

let me explain,it wasn't my personal opinion,but,the religion is the way to force people,well known fact,it ways from first great cultures,so it is the same in some radical muslim countries,a lot of arabic ppl don't know what actually their saint book talks about,treatment of the Koran forced many times by the AllMightyBosses of muslim world,the example is simple,if some1 needs a holy war against non-muslims,he will treat the Koran by the way he needs,just to force ppl doing he's dirty job (So the Kings,Emperors,and even Vatican Papas did the same in middle ages,but now it seems like dat staff left only in arabic countries)

2011-09-23 13:22

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+1 As i said in one of my above posts. The people who have POWER in islam are extremely retarded. In the current age of science and technology, still they believe in whats written in Quran.

2011-09-23 19:39

you are saying 80% of terrorists are muslims.that's totally wrong. in my opinion A terroist who kills inocent doesn't belong or will never belong to any religion in the real sense. so stop calling any muslim terrorist

2011-09-24 06:48

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I am not calling ANY MUSLIM a terrorist. I am just saying that most of the terrorists are muslims. There is a difference in those two lines. I am not an ANTI-MUSLIM person. If you check my other posts, i have praised muslims too for what they have done for the humanity. But, what i am saying is....if there are 10 BILLION people on the planet, out of those 10 billion if 10,000 are terrorists, then out of those 10,000 terrorists, 8000 are muslims which is 80% of the number.

2011-09-24 06:52

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Americans also thinking in the same way as you are, and they start blaming all the muslim as terrorist even though they stay in america

2011-09-24 08:51

OH WAIT, you tell us to not to believe in Quran just because science and technology has been advanced? are you like this for the day you were born or did some accident take place? religion is something and science and technology is something else. you dont through your religion away if youre an einstien or something. do you not believe in your holy book? 'GEETA' "sorry if i spelled it wrong". and do you even know why 'according to you' 80% of the muslims are terrorists? if you bomb my house even when i did nothing and the peices of childeren are right infront of me what am i suppose to do? i should register a case against the US government or what? do you even know how does the drone attacks even work here in pakistan? lets say if like 10 people died in a drone attack in pakistan 9 of them are innocent women and childeren and 1 is the suspect not even a confirmed terrorist. and you say we are the criminals right?

2012-04-27 08:12

Why should we apologize when even americans starting to understand that it was an inside job planned by freemasons/zionists? Read this: New World Order Plans>> rense.com/general94/nwoplans.htm

2011-09-22 17:19

11 replies

Any other idiotic conspiracy theories?

2011-09-22 18:05

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lol when occidental presidents are afraid of that kind of subject, this is conspiracy, why should we trust them ?

2011-09-22 20:07

Oh really? Go ahead and do a research on freemasons and illuminati. Watch for example on youtube> Age of Dajjal and all the organizations they own which have a meaning to them. Porn in Disney cartoons etc, get a clue, then come talk to me, k?

2011-09-23 18:17

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Yeah youtube and wikipedia great sources of knowledge. Go to a library and read some books based on hard data and then come back and talk to me.

2011-09-23 19:22

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Yeah, at least they explain the "conspiracy theories" with evidence that you will get convinced with. Unlike books which are just fairy tales.

2011-09-23 20:51

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Hehehe. That's just great. Books are fairy tales, and internet where anyone can make shit up is legit. Good luck with your future endeavors.

2011-09-23 20:55

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Now you are just failing. If I can come with an evidence and post it on youtube, would you still call it shit? How can you even explain anything about freemasons/illuminati when they own the media?

2011-09-23 20:57

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That's your problem. You're one of the people who think that every book, every newspaper, radio and TV are under some kind of freemason control. And that's just plain wrong. Cause there are a lot of people who talk the same non sense you do. For example in my country. And they're able to do it freely. And yes, anyone can post anything on the internet. Just make something out of thin air. And that is why internet is't very reliable source of information.

2011-09-23 21:04

It's kind of ironic talking about fairy tales books and being a muslim. By the way, pay every penny to save israel Heavon, don't forget it.

2012-04-27 11:49

Hmmm.. fairy tales, just like quran?

2012-04-27 12:57

here we go again, believing in a non-existing allah whore,how are you doing freak?

2012-04-27 16:52

anyway we dnt need to apologize cuz not the muslims who made it : ) u can ask the CIA n MOSAD about that , n plz ask them why they hide Osama bin Ladin body ~

2011-09-22 17:23

Amazes me how Un-smart people are lol , but yet again when i click on their profiles they are not even 18 yo.

2011-09-22 17:59

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hltv.org

2011-09-22 22:28

good

2011-09-22 18:00

90% of my Muslim friends consider Osama as a hero. And here is what top indian muslim preacher says youtube.com/watch?v=Bxk5AAA5FbI

2011-09-22 19:23

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ROFL.

2011-09-22 19:23

Maybe they consider him as a hero, but they don't believe that he is responsible of the 9/11. I'm a muslim and i have no opinion about this guy cause, i don't believe the occidental news, i don't believe that he is responsible of any plane crash

2011-09-22 20:06

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wow ! He took the responsibility. They consider him hero because he masterminded 9/11

2011-09-22 20:35

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ok stop fake propaganda because you hate muslims.

2011-09-22 22:23

In FBI website if you check Osama's Criminal Record, 9/11 isnt mentioned. Now I didnt check the website but I saw it in a video where a guy explains these stuff! And the video which was released after 9/11 in which Osama takes the responsibility for that incident, was later proven that it was fake Osama and video was staged. No one knows if Osama was even behind it cause there are no witnesses against Osama. Again I saw this in the same video. P.S: I am a christian and I dont give a fuck about religion . I am just giving you an info on what I learnt from the video, And not defending anyone!And again I cant assure my facts are right cause it was just a video :p

2011-09-23 05:13

top war reasons : 1-money (drugs) 2-drugs (money) 3-oil (money) 4-ideals 5-religion I don't give a shit about if you guys, are muslims, christians or anything else, just live ur fcking life and belive on u want to, don't make war just because other people don't believe on you want to .

2011-09-22 19:26

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and 6 - money. make love not war

2011-09-22 23:28

"Terrorist were Muslims but Muslims are NOT terrorist"

2011-09-22 19:37

If u did get real infos about 9/11 and facts u wouldn't blame muslims for this matter. Plain crash cant destroy that kind of building till bottom for hitting in 100th floor? -.- Second thing only jews didn't came to work that day. which bring us to quastion why only they? not accusing them or anything but.. innocent till proven wrong ;)

2011-09-22 20:37

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cuz the boeing 747 weighs hundreds of tons? and the building floors each had a couple of metres of thickness only? But dunno, m just sayin hehe

2011-09-22 22:42

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2011-09-23 02:12

boeing 767* and yet there was one building which did not get hit by any plane collapsed on that day as well. but dunno, am just sayin

2011-09-23 06:57

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proof/source? it's not that im against it, just curious XD

2011-09-23 08:42

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Tower 7 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Cent..

2011-09-23 08:48

CAN PEOPLE STOP WITH THE 9/11 topics ?? THERE ARE thousands of ppl being brutally murdered and raped daily in palestine and iraq and all we talk about are a few thousand americans who died 10 years ago ?? shows us that even a drop of blood on the soil of a super power is a major talking point for generations

2011-09-22 20:55

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Agree.

2011-09-22 22:14

get used to it there are thousands of people dieng everyday on middle east and people will still talk about some person being killed in europe or america...

2011-09-22 22:40

The thing is 21st century truly began after 9/11, because the whole world changed. Just like the 20th century began after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. So it's kind of a big deal.

2011-09-23 04:00

Attention attention, you guys want to know why like most of the terrorists are muslims? Because most of muslims live/come from arabic countries, where most of the people won´t get their school finished. And if they will, they all grow up between those sick "cultural freaks". I mean how those people behave their women is just not worth mentioning, hope the will get a lesson. Maybe UN/American soldiers, doesn´t matter, important is they gonna get raped. Any questions?

2011-09-22 21:58

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Muhammad pbuh said : Most perfect believer is the one whos doings are best , and the best one between you is the one who treats his women best. In Quran , it's written : "And one of His signs is that He has made a woman from you so you can find a peace in them and He has left love and tenderness between you." I just wrote u these 2 sentences cuz I remember them . There are many hadiths about women. Those who don't treat their woman as they're supposed to , I can surely tell u that those are not honest believers... You should know that islam has many sects and u can't talk generally about this.

2011-09-22 22:28

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As I said, it´s not about muslims or islam itself, but those fucking retards, who try to interprete Quran like this. It´s a war against stupid idiots, not against muslims.

2011-09-23 15:10

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+1 xd

2012-04-27 15:23

lol you don't know anything

2011-09-23 02:10

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If I don´t, then you also. Tell me, what´s wrong? I´m not saying islam, or any normal muslim is bad, but most of the bible who believes in Allah are fucking retards, who treat their women like slaves. They aren´t worth living their life. Wanna details? Message me back.

2011-09-23 15:13

lol terrorisms again..

2011-09-22 22:43

There´s a good saying not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims.

2011-09-22 23:13

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That is a pretty bad saying, there is alot of examples of terrorists that are not muslims: Anders Behring Breivik, Timothy Mcveigh, Ted Kaczynski, IRA, JDL, RAF, LRA etc.

2011-09-23 00:35

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did u even know what is IRA?

2011-09-23 12:58

Is this a religious site or wat? Talk abt Counter strike dude

2011-09-23 00:01

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2011-09-23 00:15

-_-

2011-09-23 00:03

GJ MUSLIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM <33 <333

2011-09-23 00:08

Stop focusing normal ppl (like you) as responsible for any of those terrible attacks.

2011-09-23 00:09

mad world.. anyone who blames a whole groupe of society for the act of some individuals is absolutely not thinking clearly. those people didnt deserve to die. terrorism got no religion ~

2011-09-23 03:48

Well I dont know if any Muslim individual is even apologizing for that. And I dont think they even should. And why are we even talking about this pfft. Talk something interesting like - Why pakistan is the highest viewer of porn :DD (Just a random thing that struck my mind.No offence) Or WHY Many Indians find toilet paper repellent and consider it cleaner to splash water with the left hand in the appropriate direction. Consequently, the left hand is considered unclean and is never used for eating.? (Just to make sure that I am not targeting Pakistan) :DDD

2011-09-23 05:26

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okay... you are targetting pakistan now... well they watch porn more cuz it is their right:P... why shouldn't they?? and also they are the worst example of muslims pretty much...

2011-09-23 07:35

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dude fuck no. I am not targeting them. -.- There was this funny video that i watched about it :P I never said they shouldnt :P Cause its "EDUCATION" goddammit XD And no comments on your second point!

2011-09-23 07:48

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i am a muslim and pakistan is my home country... trust me when i say that they are not good muslims... the extremists are too few over there... oh who cares:P

2011-09-23 11:37

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You know, Religion is bullshit :| God never gave us a religion. People created it! So there is no point talking about good Muslim,bad Muslim and ugly Muslim(I love Good bad and ugly, the song :P) or worst Muslim. Just my opinion though!

2011-09-23 13:06

i am a muslim and i feel sorry for the people who died... but i am not the one to be blamed... some criminals did it and no one can change that... not even the pathetic attemps of the western media to blame islam in general can change that...

2011-09-23 07:34

Germans should stop apologizing for the holocaust.

2011-09-23 09:01

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btw. It's not the same Einstein

2011-09-23 12:05

Fully agree on that!

2011-09-23 22:02

I'm muslim I dont' feel a guilty why should I ? Some other guy with other religion stop shooting ppl and he kill x ppls and everyone should feel a guilty, I lol'd !

2011-09-23 12:04

Such a blshit topic, who gives a shit???????? =DDDDDDDDDDd p.s. Not gonna prove anything, anyways.. Just some lame i-net kid talk.. I don't understandt whats the point to bring up old tradegy.. Somebody should find a new hobby.. =DD

2011-09-23 12:20

It was inside job >D

2011-09-23 12:40

2 replies

You go make foryourself handjob little conspiracy boy.. Gonna be bigger use.. =DDD

2011-09-23 12:54

1 reply

Maybe u could make me a blowjob ? "D

2011-09-24 17:26

in this thread: people of western europe saying how much muslims are cool and racism is bad, while their countries are being raped by over9000 arabs who will enforce sharia laws there in 30 years, feelsgoodman.jpg

2011-09-23 13:00

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As long as we do a good job integrating them into our societies, they probably won't believe in Allah after a couple of generations. The more we're parting them out as unsophisticated, scary and bad, the more they'll keep to their roots. That's what people like yourself fail to comprehend. Two of my friends with muslim parents don't believe in any religion, and they're second generation immigrants. They need to stop letting muslims into Europe, but the ones who've already immigrated will most likely be here forever.

2011-09-23 13:36

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sorry dude, i can't hear you over the sound of my pure white country

2011-09-23 13:38

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Thanks for living out the racist cliche of being a dumb, self-destructive idiot. :)

2011-09-23 13:42

they blamed muslims for 11/9 attacks so they can invade our countries for this purpose, while 11/9 is an inside job.

2011-09-23 13:29

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+1, but its a little more complicated, all the top leaders of this world rule this shit together. they say lets attack this to get more of that and so on. its one fucked up place.

2011-09-23 17:44

Forget this whole 9/11 thing. But most people would agree with me when I say muslims try to force their beliefs down other peoples throat. A true muslim believer will say that all other religions are fake and Islam is the only truest religions. Due to them getting brainwashed from theirchildhood by following quran and hadiths they start to think to that non-muslims are inferior. You can see how tolerant muslims are in Islamic countries where they dont even allow to build Temples/Churches. Where on other hand Muslims in secular nations come with mosques on every street. In my country(India) mosques have loudspeakers which offer azaan 5 times in a day. These mosques offer azaan on loudspeakers at 5am in the morning and people cant even sleep due to this. You can even hear azaan on loudspeaker 1km from the actual mosque.

2011-09-23 20:44

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Cant sleep? The azaan takes MAX 1-2 minute, and its 5 times daily. Wow. Edit> Most of the mosques are built in the centeral, I doubt theres so many living IN the cities

2011-09-23 20:56

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There is a mosque on every street in here ! Those 2-5 mins on loudspeakers at 5 am in the morning can ruin your sleep.

2011-09-23 21:22

"But most people would agree with me when I say muslims try to force their beliefs down other peoples throat. A true muslim believer will say that all other religions are fake and Islam is the only truest religions. Due to them getting brainwashed from theirchildhood by following quran and hadiths they start to think to that non-muslims are inferior. " This is why religion was invented. It's just a way to control people and it happens in every god damn religion out there. :)

2011-09-24 00:31

yep.. i had a muslim on CS a few days ago saying that all non believers will be going to hell, and he wasn't joking either.. pretty crazy people

2011-09-24 00:36

Yes, we believe that only Quran is the one which didnt change but Quran says this you CANNOT force otehr people to believe Quran, u can guide them but CANNOT FORCE. If you dont know, stop shitting about Quran.

2011-09-24 11:01

i mean this video youtube.com/watch?v=MoPpmiO3dYM&feature=..

2011-09-23 21:19

IT WAS A GREAT PLAN, MADE BY BUSH :D

2011-09-23 21:42

Always the same shit haha... We are all the same, even if you are black or fucking yellow, praying to allah or spongebob, we are all humans. we live once, dont waste it in neverending conversations. Smile and shut the fuck up :)

2011-09-23 22:27

hey u stupid trolls , these acts are coming from the new world order ( fuck them ) COME ON GUYS , read the qur'an and u will know everything about this world , how did it was , how it is , and how will happen.

2011-09-24 00:51

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Typical muslim trying to brainwash other non-muslims. Can you prove Quran was from god ?

2011-09-24 09:01

6 replies

Can u prove Bible came from god or Old Testament came from god?

2011-09-24 10:59

5 replies

I am not christian ok ? Christianity was as cruel as Islam but Christians became wise when they stopped following the bible.

2011-09-24 17:41

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Then how it's gonna being Chritianity if they stopped following bible??

2011-09-26 10:38

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He didn't mean to say that. Christians are not that stricts like muslims. For example christians do not follow the words from the old testaments, and muslims don't eat pork. Pork is delicious.

2012-04-27 12:13

can you prove your books ( GEETA and SO ON) are from GOD ?

2012-04-27 10:14

2012-04-27 11:08

lol, quran is 100% fake, sadly you guys are so brain washed that you cant see it :)

2011-09-24 11:03

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tell me one good reason for Quran being fake? one good reason bro.

2012-04-27 08:16

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By fake he meant man-made obviously. But I can answer for him. There have been thousands of different gods, religions and "holy" teachings troughout the history. Quran is one of those thousands. If ther really is god and he really wanted people to follow his teachings, then there would be one wrong and thousands of wrong gods and religions. And as said before- all that IF there really is god. And if there is, the chance that your religion is true is below 1%.

2012-04-27 11:25

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who are you to decide whose God is fake or real.show me one difference in any of the copy of Quran and ill agree to your every single word. not a single word is changed in any of the copies of Quran in this world and from the date Quran was given by our God i.e Allah.show me oone person who can learn a book with only 10 chapters without a single word mistake. i can show you thousands and yes thousands of muslims who have learnt Quran(which has 30 chapters) word by word and you wont find any mistake in it.PS: iam talking about the arabic not the translations, translations can be of different words but same meanings but arabic is a very difficult language even a small mistake of a small dot can change the meaning of the whole sentence. and yes you say Quran is made by human yea? if it was so then thousands or i should say un-countable changes would have been made in it but i can bet on it with all my money that you wont find any difference of words in arabic.

2012-04-27 12:17

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The fact that there has been no change of a single word in Quran dosen't been that it cannot be man made. Aswell the fact that there are some people who learn Quran by heart dosen't been that it is not man made. If I learnt Harry Potter books by heart would that mean that Harry Potter is real?

2012-04-27 12:41

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haha i challenge you learn it word by word and if not a single mistake of prnounciation, or anykind off mistake isnt found ill agree to everything you have said or whatever you want me to believe. word by word not a single mistake of pronounciation or any mistake.

2012-04-27 12:50

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So you agree with me. Such a huge and magnicficent claim as an existance of god, even an exact god, and all the evidence for this claim you need is to somebody learn a book by heart. WTF?

2012-04-27 12:57

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iam not saying learning a Holy book will make you believe that God does exist but why dont you just once read the Quran(iam not talking about learning it) but read it with translation and youll understand what iam talking about. go use internet and do some research on Islam and youll get to know what Islam is bro :)

2012-04-27 13:02

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Have you read all other "holy" books and teachings of thousands religions and then decided the Quran is the right one? I doub it. You are believing in Allah and Quran becuase you were born in muslim country,muslims society, muslim family and you were raised as muslim. If you were born in ancient greece you would believe in Zeus, Apollo and Aphrodite etc.

2012-04-27 13:27

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well have you? you just read the Quran once and you can see any copy and i say any copy in this whole freaking world and you wont find a single differnce, that is because it is from the God himself not man made. you can see bible for example, youll find it different every where, the things they dont like they just change it to something which is more comfortable to them. but the teaching of Quran are the very same from day one.

2012-04-27 13:30

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Please don't repeat same things that I have already replied to you. As said before, the fact that there is not a single edit in the quran dose not prove the existance of god...!! Im not eager to read a book that says that the punishment for apostasy is death penalty. How immoral is that??? But I do admit that I have been planning to read quran for some time now because of curiosity and better knowledge to argument against muslims :D

2012-04-27 13:40

That doesn't prove your god exists. There has been 4500+ deities along the history, and as you can do that awesome trash talk, any other former religious who has a different belief from you, could be doing the same. How can you prove Mjolnir not be the hammer of Thor? How can you disprove Zeus to be the supreme god? Or Ra? Humans made it all. We made god at our own image. If you have a doubt of it, you just need to pay attention to the characterists shared between man and gods. Also applies to Islam.

2012-04-27 12:46

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well bro how do you think the sun the moon the 7 skys the stars and everything is there? urm or are you trying to say nothing just happend to form all this and nothing will happen and all the nothing will end and nothing will remain yea ?:p

2012-04-27 12:52

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whom are you even arguing with bro ? leave them

2012-04-27 12:53

32 replies

You are scared of reasoning xD

2012-04-27 12:54

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no i am not , i have argued alot here on FORUMS defending my country and my religion , and i know what the outcome will be :)

2012-04-27 12:55

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The outcome will be as always- there is NO single logical argument for the existance of god and NO single semi-logical argument for a specific religion to be true. If you are not able to provide any argument/evidence, then please, maybe you find some recorded debate between atheist and muslim where muslims tops atheist, on youtube or anywhere else and you can post the link. I challenge you

2012-04-27 13:01

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why dont you give me any evidence or proof that this world and everything came up all by itself. everything in this universe. a single proof please?

2012-04-27 13:03

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There is no proof, as there is no proof for god. So the answer is- we don't know, any of us don't know. AND, if there is someone that claims he/she knows (as there is, billions of religious people) the he/she has to provide the evidence. I don't say that there is god, you say it, YOU have to provide evidence. If you say sometihng, you have to prove it. Not the way that you make the claim and I have to prove opposite, and If I can't then you are right.

2012-04-27 13:10

I know the outcome to from the people like you, the difference it's that I always debunk your kind, not trying to be arrogant, but my mind is free, and that's the advantage I have.

2012-04-27 13:08

well hes actually right, you wont agree with me nor i will no matter how much we put in this arguement. you better use the internet and do some research on Islam. many of the christians, hindus, jews and different scholars have commented on Islam. P.S: iam talking about the good authentic scholars not some maniacs who think of nothing but hatred.

2012-04-27 12:57

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So every scholar who thinks islam is true is good and authentic and every other scholar who claims opposite is hater? Fuck logic

2012-04-27 13:03

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i didnt mean that. what i meant was if you listen to someone who says screw Islam screw muslims kill everyone, wont do any favour, rather then some good scholars who know how to speak and the scholars who can really think

2012-04-27 13:05

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I haven't stumbled upon any good authentic scholar who has said that we should kill muslims.. Link for your claim?

2012-04-27 13:07

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um didnt you read what i said? go listen to some good scholars. the scholars with good reputation wont ever accuse anyone or any religion for anything.

2012-04-27 13:12

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"P.S: iam talking about the good authentic scholars not some maniacs who think of nothing but hatred." By word maniacs you meant literally maniacs and not other scholars who aren' good and authentic? If it's the case I have misunderstood you. Sorry

2012-04-27 13:16

like a priest in america burnt the Quran for no reason, iam talking about such bastards. dont listen to such kind they are just a threat to humanity.

2012-04-27 13:14

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I don't consider any religious person man of science. Scientist are no priests.

2012-04-27 13:17

I have done the necessary research about Islam, to say it's just another made up fallacious religion, not for my surprise.

2012-04-27 13:05

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care to share your research work mate?

2012-04-27 13:10

16 replies

The qu'ran itself? Duh........

2012-04-27 13:16

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haha oh my word. read the whole Quran word by word for once and youll know everything that is happening and that has to come or has already happened centuries ago.

2012-04-27 13:18

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Do you really think is necessary? Just seeing women hidding behind mantles, it's more than enough for me.

2012-04-27 13:22

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so women wearing hijab is the main problem for you to not believe in Islam or any religion yea?

2012-04-27 13:27

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No? That's just one moral fallacy in your religion sustainted by the qu'ran.

2012-04-27 13:30

9 replies

haha? showing your body is good you mean to say?

2012-04-27 13:34

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Why would you say it's not good? I mean there are natives still running showing their ball sack and they do not rape each other if that's the corruption you are trying to show. I'm not saying we have to live nude. I am saying why are women the only ones that have to wear the hijab or whatever?

2012-04-27 13:45

then go make your girlfriend or your mother run naked in the streets .

2012-04-27 13:37

6 replies

So there is two options: Totally covered or totally naked? Fuck logic

2012-04-27 13:41

4 replies

there's two options : don't reply me or don't reply me ?

2012-04-27 13:46

3 replies

And again. As you said before: argument between muslim and non-believer has always the same outcome. You have no logical arguments left and you just tell to piss off.

2012-04-27 13:50

2 replies

cuz i don't want to argue anymore , think whatever you want it won't effect me .

2012-04-27 14:00

1 reply

Ignorance is a bliss.

2012-04-27 14:02

That's the most stupid claim I've read in a while. And you are talking like my mother or gf were my pets (the muslim gender morality at it's best), they have choices too, they can go nude to the streets if they'd like to or dress however they like, but I don't see a reason why anybody would run to the streets without clothes, neither why somebody should hide 90% of his body behind mantles.

2012-04-27 13:53

if you have read it carefully then there is no arguing .

2012-04-27 13:20

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It wouldn't be, if I was a narrow minded muslim.

2012-04-27 13:32

What has this to do with what I have told you? Besides I can't understand what you are writing, saying "nothings just happened bla bla" (heard it before), you should be seeking your answers in science, not in religion. It's easy to say "god did it". The fact that we don't know in majority most of the things, doesn't give you the right, in a discussion, to fill it with god.

2012-04-27 13:02

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+1 Vikings used to make scary noises during the eclipse, they tought that some evil god was behind this. Today we have a clear scientific explanation for it, aswell as for many things that man could not explain in the past and tought that god was behind it. So if we don't know something, it's wrong to jump to conclusion that god must be behind it. Science has closed the gaps gradualy which used to be filled with "god"

2012-04-27 13:06

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oh comeon. science has proven the sun rises somehow( i dont want to get into the arguement HOW:p) well then there must be something behind the sun rising from a specific place everyday and sunseting in the same place everyday.

2012-04-27 13:10

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I actually couldn't understand what you were saying. Please be so kind and paraphrase?

2012-04-27 13:13

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i agree my english is not very good. but let me tryna make it more clear. you see the sun rising every single from the same place dont you? science might have proven the fact that it rises from the east and sets in the west. i bet science wouldnt and cant ever prove how does the sun rises from the same place every single day. there must something behind this phenomenon. it just cant happen all by itself.

2012-04-27 13:17

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"i bet science wouldnt and cant ever prove how does the sun rises from the same place every single day" Because the Earth rotates around it's axis and around the sun. Google it if you haven't heard of it.

2012-04-27 13:22

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brother can you tell me what makes the earth rotate around the sun? and how come is it rotating around the sun from centuries and in the very same way it was from day one!?

2012-04-27 13:24

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A combination of inertia and gravity. And that's physics and im not a physicist to explain it to you. I have learnt in school but don't remember exactly anymore. Again, google it. But I see where it is going and I will stop you right here. You will get to the point where you aske where did the universe come from or where did the matter for big bang come from? The answer is we don't know. Nobody does. And god is not the answer. As I have wrote in previous replies to you. Science is working on closing gaps in our knowledge which have been filled with "god" and sciecne has done it successfully so far and is always progressing. And again why god is not an answer. Because then rises a new question: Who or what created the god?

2012-04-27 13:35

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So you're tellin' us that u believe that whole universe created itself so perfectly so when u take a look at our Earth and species on it you're amazed how everything is well settled considering universes self-creation out of nowhere , but u can't believe that God isn't created and that someone must have created him too ? Where's the logic there ?

2012-04-27 14:36

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The thing is, im not the one claiming that if there is something, it must have been created. Theists are the ones claiming this, who believe that the universe had to be created by someone who also answers prayers from planet earth. So im just following their string of logic. If they say that the universe had to be created by someone, that everything has to have a creator, then according to their logic there has to be someone who created the creator and so on. If they accpet the concept that something comes in to existance without intelligent intervention, then why do they need an agent of any kind? Why do they need god? Are you following me?

2012-04-27 16:09

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No , I'm not , because your view on theism is mixed up with philosophy. One thing is sure , human brain will never be able to understand those things neither will science ever come close there. We don't know how people built pyramids and we're trying to find proof of God's presence or unpresence. Now take care and have a good day , I decided not to discuss anymore on this topic and lose my precious time. I'm going out for walk , beautiful weather here.

2012-04-27 16:35

exactly my point, saying everything just came up all by itself is nothing but some idiot trying to prove nothing. iam not saying you should only follow Islam or iam not forcing anything on you what iam saying is there must be something behind all this beauty and all these creations. and you say seek your answers in science, there are some people who discover things science just didnt come out of no where .. there was something behind it which discovered it. think brother THINK.

2012-04-27 13:08

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Im thinking, different than you, but thinking finally. The difference it's that I do not claim anything, I am skeptical, you are claiming Allah to be the one and only and the supreme god that made everything possible and without his existance the beauty of this world (I think you forgot to name the aberrations too) wouldn't be possible. If you claim, then explain, do not try to make others to think like you just because you can't explain universe other way.

2012-04-27 13:15

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i told you before iam not forcing anything on you or anyone. iam just giving my opinion about what i think and what i believ.

2012-04-27 13:22

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I know you are giving your opinion and your belief, and that's why doesn't go forward than a belief. Beliefs should be personal, and not valid in debates.

2012-04-27 13:28

The Quran states that only Allah can know the gender of a child before it is born. 31:34 I can show you many more faults if you want me to shatter your fantasy

2012-04-27 15:43

Hello my mad friends, i've got some text for western europeans and i want you to comment on it 'Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries. The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them. Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this? But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.'

2011-09-24 11:55

real topic...

2011-09-24 12:16

there are 1 , 000 , 000 bibles copies and are not the same there are billions qur'an copies they are the same. what u don't like at the bible you change it , pussys. open your eyes

2011-09-24 13:32

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True Bro .

2012-04-27 11:09

There are millions of Harry Potter copies and they are all the same. That means that Harry Potter is real?

2012-04-27 11:21

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you're stupid or what?

2012-04-27 12:30

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No, I am not.

2012-04-27 12:37

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you clearly show the opposite

2012-04-27 13:12

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How exactly?

2012-04-27 13:13

You just won the award for today's most hypocritical statement. Congratualtions!

2012-04-27 15:38

fu**ing politics ... leave me please alone

2011-09-24 20:48

They shouldn't need to apologize for 9/11, because it wasn't even their fault - for it was Americas. They planned it, plane and simple and killed thousands of innocent people in the process... The previous government of America should apologise.

2011-09-24 20:50

The truth about 9/11. youtube.com/watch?v=hdagSIa-UQ8

2011-09-25 09:04

Terrorism has no religion. Its just insane people trying to do all this shit in the name GOD. peace.

2011-09-25 10:48

muslims should first of all stop demanding special respect for their ugly islam which promotes intolerance towards minorities. Only secular society makes sense.

2011-09-25 11:16

9/11 was done by American policy. That is the TRUTH.

2012-04-27 08:17

I like Muslims. (Based on MY experience on knowing some. Not news. Not views. Not conspiracy theories. Not cause of religion, but because of what a person makes of himself.) and I hate terrorists. Childish view but keeps things clear for me. P.S. about that Indian dude who said his 90% friends worship Osama. Well you need to change friends and spend time with better intellectual Muslims.

2012-04-27 09:21

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+1. i dont get it what do the world thinks? we pakistanis like being bombarded? one drone attack causes hundreds of deaths and in reaction of the deaths people from their families turn to the wrong people who they think are kind of their 'mesiah' who will help them in taking revenge from the people who killed their families. and in order to do so they attack pakistan just because of our government who are american slaves its only the people of pakistan who suffer. because of some assholes you cant declare every muslim out there a terrorist. please guys GROW up please!.

2012-04-27 12:41

it inside job its proved by some american people watch those videos. american government should apologies to their people and to muslims of afghanistn iraq and pakistan. muslim didnt do it so there is no need to apologies American people need to recognize their government and what they have done to them.

2012-04-27 09:53

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+1 but people are to retard to use their brains just to figure out that shit on tv isnt real

2012-04-27 11:02

dafuq guys are u so stupid to believe that muslims are incharge of the shit happens 9/11, u believe everything u heard in tv.the truth is they can not know who did that shit cuz everything burned, u guys should use ur mind before to argue and stop believing shit on tv.

2012-04-27 11:00

yeah, If I could I would blow fokin up all america :) Muslim 4 ever <3

2012-04-27 11:36

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2012-04-27 12:42

u`r so fcking stupid if it wasn`t for america u wouldn`t be living in gjakova but instead in kukes or puke or even be dead, be grateful to them for their help they gave moron

2012-04-27 12:59

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what freaking help did they gave ? they broke USSR to become SUPER POWER of the world , they invaded in IRAQ for no reason and killed innocents this is called HELP ? now they are doing the same with AFGHANISTAN this is HELP ? they created TALIBAN this is HELP ?

2012-04-27 13:02

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ever heard of kosovo-serbia war? if not then u don`t understand what I wrote

2012-04-27 13:04

yea, I would fuck up all americans too, thanks for remembering =

2012-04-27 17:38

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O_0? didn`t u understand my post or are u just acting like dumb?

2012-04-27 17:50

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oh fuck dude, fuckin thank you, I would fuck up all politicans too

2012-04-27 18:13

I love this kind of thread. Always funny.

2012-04-27 12:28

This thread has waaayyy too much flaming going on... Forum moderators should prolly just lock it..

2012-04-27 12:28

<3 muslim

2012-04-27 12:33

bottom line: america is fucked.

2012-04-27 13:13

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how come?

2012-04-27 13:14

on 9/11 there are 2500 jews employees and they are all on holiday plane which hit pantagon vanish in the building and they didnt find plane, black box its engine nothing instead of apologizing all muslim countries should unite and declare america terrorist state because they murder thousands of muslims all over the world and broke every agreement that thay have with americans and stop trading with them

2012-04-27 13:47

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you can't say every american's are terrorist .

2012-04-27 13:49

and then you cant say all afghan are terrorist all iraqis are terrorist if america thinks like that and kill innocent people in these countries then why we thought of those people who believe their gov blindly and support them to kill people all over the world.

2012-04-27 13:54

Hate muslims.

2012-04-27 13:56

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you hate because you only see and believe what biased media shows you if you research and give some time then you know what muslims are and what is ISLAM.

2012-04-27 14:00

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he doesn't hate them cuz of that .. he hates them cuz he IS the SAME as biased media . there are many sick and posioned brains u can't help

2012-04-27 14:21

Muslims must die

2012-04-27 14:21

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white power !

2012-04-27 14:26

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i'm not racist :<

2012-04-27 14:32

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so what color muslims are ?

2012-04-27 14:34

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i dont care about skin color man :) im just atheist, and i hate muslims most of all, i have a lot of arguments for it

2012-04-27 14:36

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f0r example , u meet a muslim , after a few days he/she wants to convince you to their religion (thats my experience)

2012-04-27 14:51

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so your experience of one person represent an entire population? how narrow-minded can you be. christians do the same thing, they always try to convince you to believe in their god. I'm atheist but it bothers me how many fellow europeans are so racist/plain stupid. particularly eastern european countries

2012-04-27 15:03

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1. where I've said that my opinion is based on 1 person ? 2. Christians dont do what you say , at least in my country 3. dont offend me and eastern nations cuz it only shows that u'r narrow-minded 4. screw u

2012-04-27 15:08

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what did I do to offend you? every time I speak with a Christian they will try to convince me that they are right and I should believe in god as well. what does that have to do with narrow minded? I'm just stating facts, eastern european countries are more nationalistic than other european countries. they also have the highest amount of right wing activists/skinheads etc. but they are often less educated and have lower IQ's than ordinary people. no matter how you bring it. racists are stupid, everyone has the right to have an opinion and live wherever he wants.

2012-04-27 16:24

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son u have a problem :D

2012-04-27 21:45

these threads about religion are awesome!!!!!!!!! youtube.com/watch?v=m07xeeEzpsI

2012-04-27 14:40

am a Muslim, I am against terrorism, am Muslim and proud i don't give a fuck what people say about Islam i will be Muslim until the death comes and take me, i know my religion more than any asshole who think that muslims are terrorists that what every Muslim should say!

2012-04-27 15:07

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+1 . don't give a fuck , everything will be clear at judgement day :D

2012-04-27 15:09

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ofc brother :)

2012-04-27 15:11

its our duty to clear peoples mind about what we are and what is ISLAM if we dont then we are first to face the punishment on judgement day to not tell them about ISLAM and Muslims.

2012-04-27 20:11

Way to go religion! Don't give a fuck about logic, reasoning and the truth! Ignore all the constructive criticism and arguments if you can't answer them! Blind faith at itäs finest! Btw, when will be this judgement day? Will it be in my lifetime ? Im waiting for the day to laugh.

2012-04-27 16:18

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Soon.

2012-04-27 18:22

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How soon? I see muslims saying how smart book quran is and how quran predicts future and has predicted future. So please, can you give me more exact date than soon? Soon this year? this decade? this century? When?

2012-04-27 18:42

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Well, it really i soon, but still not known. Why ? Because there are some things in the Qu ran, and if they start happening, then it is pretty close. And BTW, you should read the Qu ran, Perhaps you might understand why they say this book has scientific miracles.

2012-04-27 20:06

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What are those things then ?

2012-04-27 20:45

tbh I've never heard a muslim apologize for 9/11, but yeah if I was in the authors position my reaction would probably be similar to his EDIT: On a side note I find it interesting how the US has to take full blame for the wars in the middle-east, nobody's mentioning the british, french, scandinavian, etc etc.

2012-04-27 15:37

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hey don't hate us! also don't worry, Denmark was the only scandinavian country in Iraq, so you're fine

2012-04-27 18:04

The guy who kills another life of the same species is not of any religion. Religion is something we are loathed with , not our karma man. Just live to the betterment and let peace prevail.

2012-04-27 15:38

Who started the first world war ? Muslims ? Who started the second world war ? Muslims ? Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ? Muslims?? Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nakazaki ? Muslims?? Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America ? Muslims ?? Who killed more than 50 millions of Indians in south America ?? Muslims ?? Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and was thrown in Atlantic ocean ? Muslims ?? Who killed 6 million Jews in Germany? Muslims?? No, Not at all, They weren't Muslims …… So gets your facts right!!! Dont spread what u here just go in history then you will get who is Terrorists...

2012-04-27 16:00

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+1 but im sure the muslims fucked up Pakistan Iran Iraq and Afghanistan.

2012-04-27 18:39

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Not really ... There is something that people cant understand, ISLAM = Peace, if you see someone saying he is a muslim and behaving in another way, well he is not really a muslim.

2012-04-27 20:01

its in reaction of drones attack that they attack paki people now when neto supply is shut downed no suicide bombing in pak and rest terrorist funded from outside

2012-04-27 20:07

i dont like islamic extremism or islamic terrorism, i think they are the lowest iq people in the world, allahakbar boom boom many dead bodies... no apologies , ok idiot

2012-04-27 16:18

Muslims should stop being muslims, simple as that

2012-04-27 16:27

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I read some really narrow minded comments above but you sir, topped them all.

2012-04-27 17:06

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And how am I narrow minded? Anything to ask just PM me ok?

2012-04-27 19:00

2012-04-27 18:31

I've never seen so many stupid people in one thread. It's un fucking believable.

2012-04-27 16:29

Trigger happy terrorism angering the historically proven trigger happy country, it's a perfect mix for slaughter.

2012-04-27 18:32

All American game

2012-04-27 19:35

youtube.com/watch?v=GFIeQBeMgvI What do we need to say else about muslims?

2012-04-27 19:33

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Police abuse is just an issue in Muslim countries, right?

2012-04-27 19:49

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Nah, just saying didn't see so cruel police abuse anywhere, ESPECIALLY (as we see it from vid) directed on women. They are beating to death their own nation. Their own WOMEN who might become mother to *their son or daughter... Oh wait, isn't it a shame to get a daughter to muslim? And women abuse is just a normal thing in muslim countries. Got a feeling that we talked about muslim some time ago. :))

2012-04-27 19:57

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If you haven't seen you should widening your sources as here in Spain there has been this kind of abuse, even against teenagers and addressing underage girls who were protesting in a gross manner right in front of their mothers. Women abuse is normal where men think they are superior to them, and you do not have to be muslim to make that mistake (and some muslims don't make it).

2012-04-27 20:09

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I don't deny this kind of *crime in any countries including mine or yours, for sure. But I dare say that women abuse is widespread in Muslim countries. Because Muslim countries are built on concept of male being superior in all possible ways.

2012-04-27 20:16

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Depends on tradition and culture in countries , not religion . Take a look at Bosnia or Turkey and their woman . Prophet Muhammad said that the best among muslims are those who are good to their wives.

2012-04-27 20:20

But on the basis of the video you have posted you shouldn't put police abuse and being muslim in the same basket. Just like you have said, this happens in any country and police are used (and abused) to avoid any protest against the government being this one more or less "democratic". If according to you it is widespread in Muslim countries it is more due to a conservative society than due being Muslim. In other parts of the world there is not only abuse but mass murdering of women (f.e. Ciudad Juárez) and I doubt you will blame it on Mexico being a Muslim country but on the conservative thugs that commit those crimes. Even though I do not deny the shameful acquiesence of most part of the society in either part of the world.

2012-04-27 20:32

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Agreed on *your first sentence. But it was just an example of my reasons to dislike muslims. Here in Russia there are some problematic regions like Chechnya/Dagestan. Most of their youngsters (who live in european or central part of Russia) are quite agressive and always trying to show their power, etc. The corruption level of this regions is quite unbelievable and it seems like other regions pay them for not *bombing. *Their leaders have a lot of luxury items like porsches, different palaces, etc, despite the fact that unemployment rate is highest in country in their regions. I just can't like muslims. Not in this world. Not in this life. Regarding your words about conservative societies. Well, I consider Great Britain as quite conservative society. But there is no such women abuse. So I can fairly disagree with your statement about it. (btw, Mexico is quite strange place. Still can't understand how cartel is able to *be more powerful than government/army).

2012-04-27 20:43

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Well, dislikes do not usually help to be objective as far as I understand it. As for being a conservative society I presume a British user would be able to give you more in depth details if it is or not.

2012-04-27 21:07

better apologyze for something they didnt do than apoloyginz for something they did

2012-04-27 19:58

just read about the time of taliban reign in afghanistan then you know that was a golden period in afghanistan. they eliminate all type of cultivation of poke. Many people doesnt know about taliban. you should read about taliban before you people declared them terrorist.

2012-04-27 20:16

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You aren't a woman, are you? Maybe if you were you would see the lead under that "golden" sheet.

2012-04-27 20:35

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Jonathan you should definitely lock this thread... look at this shit what's going on.

2012-04-27 20:48

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Unfortunately that is where most of this kind of threads end up. We will see how this further develops.

2012-04-27 21:07

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Well you can do that... but there is just too much narrow-minded dicks and racists on the move, that you can forget about seeing any decent dialog.