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GuardiaN deserves mvp ?
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Brazil cinking 
title about this major i think that he deserves how about you guys ?
2015-11-02 01:44
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jkaem deserves mvp for carrying g2 to semis Zappa
2015-11-02 01:48
ZappaRoss
2015-11-02 01:49
#179
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CIS chlenixon 
BobRoss 4 pres
2015-11-02 15:14
#53
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Brazil hugoooo 
How he deserves more than GuardiaN, that carried Na'Vi to the FINALS?
2015-11-02 03:38
G2 beat VP and almost beat NV Na'Vi beat LG and NiP
2015-11-02 05:27
#177
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
seized carried NaVi just as much
2015-11-02 15:12
he desrves better team imagine g2 -fox +guardian, ez top 1
2015-11-02 01:48
that is so retarded really
2015-11-02 01:50
haha fox fan, what can one expect
2015-11-02 01:52
fox hit 40 frags on the inferno game. kill yourself you biased fuck.
2015-11-02 01:54
aaaaaaaand they still lost guardian>fox s1mple as that
2015-11-02 01:55
they lost because they were vsing NV which is a team that can prob 16-0, break the game and 100-0 you. who are you to judge players? fucking noname
2015-11-02 02:00
LOL gr8 logic, downy not good at playing cs doesnt mean shit u can still analyse and discuss regardless, u fkn retarded noflagger
2015-11-02 02:02
Butthurt because Australia was nowhere to be seen this major?
2015-11-02 02:52
no idgaf about aussie teams they're all crap anyways
2015-11-02 04:31
Australian teams are crap because the players are shit. Shush now.
2015-11-02 05:13
U guys are so butthurt
2015-11-02 05:23
lol you are clearly the fucking retard here, look at how you are behaving, tells me that if i saw you irl then i would fucking drop you in a split second.
2015-11-02 06:53
k u could try
2015-11-02 07:25
butthurt silver. go kill urself.
2015-11-02 08:48
SMFC* nt tho
2015-11-02 08:49
I thought everyone was global since they fucked MM ranking and made it ez. You must be real bad...
2015-11-02 11:36
lol you think rank means anything? you must be real bad...
2015-11-02 11:41
#70
Australia BCP 
notice how he played bad on the other 2 maps, going a total of 26-32 on dd2 and cache combined? the 40k doesnt make up for that sadly
2015-11-02 08:59
fox > Any australian kangaroo player
2015-11-02 01:54
no shit, australia is the worst continent at cs, even antarctica could scrap together better players, but that is relevant how? discussion is guardian v. fox bitch
2015-11-02 01:56
so you could just say -any awper + guardian lel
2015-11-02 01:56
guardian or s1mple both crazy fuckers but s1mple is a toxic bitch so guardian is then better choice but to be realistic guardian wont leave navi and s1mple needs a proper team to play in so he can finally win, and g2 is just that also his individual skill will make a huge impact since g2 are heavy individual fraggers
2015-11-02 02:01
ahsahshahs gtfo fox is a better awper than ur s1mple, fox has proven in the biggest lan what has s1mple done? wow one good game in a starladder lan against a slump navi. fox > s1mple get mad
2015-11-02 02:02
s1mple is a beast, if u think otherwise u are blind, 2much bias he has never had the oppurtunity to join a good team and stick to it for a steady time regardless guardian>fox
2015-11-02 02:04
yes he is a beast but not better than fox (never proved) yes guardian is better than fox doesent mean that fox has to be kicked for him that logic is reetarded
2015-11-02 02:05
look@ original comment "Imagine" i never said he should be kicked, but if he did it would be good for guardian as he has always been the best player in navi and his team have been extra weight, g2 would be good for him since he would finally be in a team who r all crazy players
2015-11-02 02:09
BigLover plsss fox>simple rlyy??!?
2015-11-02 09:04
Why hiding your flag? Fox will never be as good awper as s1mple, guardian, Skadoodle allu, jw, chrisJ, Kennys. The list can go on for a while. And that's been proven over and over on lan performance. Not saying -fox because I don't see anyone better than fox wanting to join that team. And fox is doing his job so that's enough.
2015-11-02 12:17
ahshashahsa has been proven over lan performance ahsh8ahsa gtfo what lan as s1mple done good recently? and allu? and chrisj? jasashahsa fox is better than them just look the major most of the people consider fox now top 5 awper so nice try maddie
2015-11-02 13:09
Delusional fox lovers will stay delusional forever it seems. No wonder thorin loves to bait the shit out of you
2015-11-02 13:17
hahhaa get mad fox top 3 awp in the major
2015-11-02 13:17
Wow he's good for one tournament, instant top awper. Get real kiddo. He haven't been anything special since join g2.
2015-11-02 13:22
he has been the best in the team for the last 3 lans u idiot he has the best rating (expect jkaem wich only had one lan) and this one was in the major so it even counts more there is no really more awper to even discuss in tier 1. so ye he is surely top 5 awp atm only delusinal people like you couldnt agree fox > jw BTW EVEN Apex said that fox had a bad role and now that he is the main awper its different so ye you cant judge the other perfomances where he was support
2015-11-02 13:24
You can. That's how you rank people. You take their performance and from a period and compare it to others. Roles couldn't matter less in this case. Fox best in the three last tournament? Are you even watching?
2015-11-02 13:29
hahsahs you are totally clueless if you like stats so much so ye fox has the best avereage in the team in the last 3 lans you can check urself if u want to
2015-11-02 13:38
Couldn't care less about stats unless it's absolutely garbage. But fox have little impact. Best average =/= best player. But this is not worth my time talking with a fox fanboy, keep thinking he is the god that makes your country look good. Might give you a happier life.
2015-11-02 13:42
ashahshas mad nip fangay fox > all of nip waping history
2015-11-02 13:43
#71
Australia BCP 
laughable statement
2015-11-02 09:00
fox > s1mple you dumb or something? S1mple might be a dickhead, but there is no way you can ever give an explanation with meaning(notice this, it has to be thought through using a braind) on how fox is better than s1mple. Because he aint.
2015-11-02 13:54
hum ok i will, fo9x performs in majors and rekts tier 1 teams s1mple sucks last 4 months did shit in lans neither in majors Case closed didnt even qualified fox > s1mple not an opinion its a fact used by perfomances therefore facts
2015-11-02 13:55
I'm not even sure if you watch the same CS:GO scene as the rest of us. I will just leave you alone, I kind sort of feel my IQ dropping the more I see your comments and your arguments.
2015-11-02 14:18
ye call me when s1mple perfoms in a major like fox did
2015-11-02 14:45
He has done, every single time. In every tournament. He just doesn't get far because he doesn't play well with the team. He is a solo player by far at the moment, he lacks team spirit. But he is a better player and always performs better than fox. Ignorant to not see that :)
2015-11-02 14:48
hahahaa ye u are clueless i give u facts and u give opinions "always" ye always thats why i dont see him here right? Give more team excuses plz im loving it ahahha
2015-11-02 14:50
I did not give you a single opinion there. Simple is better than fox. Fact. Simple isn't getting far in tournaments because he is a solo player atm who cannot play well with teams(hence he doesnt have a team). Fact. Only reason G2 got so far in Major - Not Fox, more like rain, jkaem & Maikel. You don't see him because, yet again i say it, but it's a valid argument, he does not have a team you moron. Why does he not have a team? Because he is a dickweed who can't keep his head cool. Does that make him a worse individual player than fox? No. Get your brain straight.
2015-11-02 14:59
ahaha you are clueless ur opinion i s "simple is better than fox fact" ahaha how is that a fact? what do you have to backup ur "fact" nothing well i have this major he rekted envy and vp best awper after kennys and guardian and playing in top level where has been ur s1mple? nowhere sorry
2015-11-02 15:00
hltv.org/?pageid=181 Player stats. See s1mple, see fox. Just one example. I really can't be bothered finding more stats and explain them to a door. You have fun in your ignorant CS career. Must be fun in your brain. I'd assume G2 ranks in your top4 of all teams now as well?
2015-11-02 15:04
AASGHHSAHSHAHSAHSAHSAHHSAHSHASHAHSHA wowowo ur logic is so retarded so xantares is the best player? xddddddddddddddddddddddddd you are totally clueless most retarded logic ive seen
2015-11-02 15:05
I figured you didn't have the brain to click past this. Jesus christ.. Okay here more specific comes. Here are the results of previous events and the last 3 months stats. Simple: hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=7998 hltv.org/?pageid=334&playerid=7998 Fox: hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=629 hltv.org/?pageid=334&playerid=629 Do you notice how much RED fox has? That means a rating below 1. Is this enough for you? How braindead do you have to be to not notice that simple just is a better individual player than fox? Crap you are stupid as hell..
2015-11-02 15:10
ye show stats when fox was not the main awper nice logic haha
2015-11-02 15:10
Oh my. I feel sorry for everyone that have had their IQ ruined by talking to you. Have fun living in unicorn fairy land. I envy your stupidness.
2015-11-02 15:11
and why exactly should they pick s1mple? their performance is getting better and better just like performance of fox.this team seems pretty balanced.they have no freaking reason for lineup change and for picking toxic player lol...
2015-11-02 02:03
australia is not a continent
2015-11-02 02:16
it is... nice b8 tho
2015-11-02 02:17
nt bear grylls
2015-11-02 02:19
#72
Australia BCP 
it is a continent, denmark. i expected better from you T_T en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent
2015-11-02 09:02
i didnt study in denmark and i was taught australia was not a continent but oceania i have been living a lie, rip education [*]
2015-11-02 15:38
#190
Australia BCP 
truth is different places go by different definitions. for example some consider europe and asia to be eurasia and look at it as 1 continent. same with the americas. oceania is a term used as a region because australia is the only country thats part of australia the continent (though some consider the bottom of indonesia to be as well), so when talking about the other countries like malaysia and indonesia and fiji etc people just call it oceania - which is a weird word because everyone pronounces it differently. "continent" has no proper definition, its just a large chunk of land thats connected together, and since australia is a country already - knowing its considered to be an entire continent by some is not important :]
2015-11-02 20:31
fox was probably one of the best players this tournament.
2015-11-02 03:32
2015-11-02 12:47
#132
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Belgium Obiiwans 
Navys group was a lot easier then g2 .. So ofc navy gets better scores The only hard game they had all group was vs Luminosity and that was not even a game since fallen was not hitting his shots (he was not losing on a 1vs1 vs guardian he simply was unable to hit anything even on non moving targets)
2015-11-02 13:05
navy... lmao They were in group with clg who were probably the best NA team at the tournament and envy who won the tournament. G2 was with mouz and a tilting tsm. bad bait 2/10 oh, and dignitas are also better than flopside tactics with all the onliners on that team
2015-11-02 13:10
#158
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Belgium Obiiwans 
Clg best Na team ? lol.. Liquid and even cloud9 are better then CLG atm They were vs Envyus sure. and they lost the same way G2 lost to tsm, TSM only tilted vs NIP. Mouz is a lot better then CLG , CLG can't win agains a good team or even make the game close . They almost lost vs dignitas a team that was a 1 man show. And if you want a good exemple just watch G2vsEnvyus That was what a real game looks like (They tilted sadly after inferno but the first 2 maps were awesome to watch) i'm just going to copy paste what i said earlier on another post : " Envy vs Navi .. Was kinda boring . Navi almost won map1 but got rekt on the other. And even map1 with such a high advantage they still lost it. g2 vs Envy was the opposite. Envyus had the advantage with 8 (or 7 don't remember and i don't feel like checking) rounds on T side inferno and G2 manage to comeback vs Envyus and envyus was playing CT side inferno (they have one of the best ct sides inferno)! Navi can't even get rounds on T side cobble ." "oh, and dignitas are also better than flopside tactics with all the onliners on that team " Yeah. Dignitas only got 14 rounds vs CLG because aizy had 37 kills and the seconds most kills on his team was Pimp with 20. If Aizy was not in godlike mod that game would be at max 16-10 maybe less.
2015-11-02 14:12
Lol are you retarded? G2 won a map and lost another in 3rd overtime to EnvyUs.
2015-11-02 15:18
yeah because they were in group with envy
2015-11-02 16:00
Ahhahahahaha guardian>fox 100times and guardians english probably>foxs english so how is it retarded? oh yeah because u are 3rd worldugal fox fanboy
2015-11-02 09:06
I'd rather -maikelele then he's the one who ended up -17 and doing the dumb molly play.
2015-11-02 14:03
he is a loser , no mvp for guardian zappa
2015-11-02 01:51
Only loser here is crazynoob who never gonna attend any majors
2015-11-02 02:02
I think a player from g2 deserves an mpv, maybe even fox, the only decent team Na'Vi has played on their way to finals was half-broken NiP all the dirty job was done by the likes of g2 & LG, they took all the sharks out of the pool. Every G2 player showed an incredible performance throughout all the maps they've played at cluj. mvp of cluj should be either jkaem or fox, imo
2015-11-02 02:07
no,mvp should be someone from finalists.i agree with you about performance of g2 players but noone of them was able to drag his team to the final... mvp should be either kennys or guardian.noone deserves it more
2015-11-02 02:08
judging from that logic the mvp should be a person from the winner's team that is Kennys, but honestly the envyus/na'vi game was looking like some CEVO shit and that's all because Na'Vi always bounces off the other teams back, but when they face a real challenge they play sloppy & everytime people still consider them to be top 5. I am from Ukraine and if it was up for me to decide I wouldn't even put them into top 10, maybe 10-13
2015-11-02 02:14
achievment wise the are top5 this year easily.noone except fnatic,tsm,envy and vp could be before them.as simple as that... mvp of the final was kennys,mvp of the whole tournament was kennys/guardian.i couldnt care less about how the final game looked like,mvp=the most valuable player=the player who did his best to carry his team whole tournament and you cant deny that guardian was this kind of player,you just cant. and you cant taky anything from guardian because tsm and fnatic failed this event,its their fault.guardian had stunning performance
2015-11-02 02:19
well, maybe I agree with you jkaem & fox and the whole g2 squad probably belong to the "breakthrough of the tournament" award won't argue about guardian showing up big time almost on every map droping 30 bombs
2015-11-02 02:21
like i said i agree with you about performance of g2 players.they were for me the most enjoyable team to watch this event. maikelele has rly sick rounds and clutches,jkaem played like freaking terminator,fox is getting better and better lately,top 3 awper this event.too bad that rain didnt play up to his standards but he had his moments aswell+he was calling but it just wasnt enough for mvp title in my opinion...but surely the biggest surprise this event
2015-11-02 02:24
If it wasn't because vp somehow won dubai, then I would put na'vi above them if you count the whole year
2015-11-02 12:57
my point wasnt actually to make accurate top5 list this year.i only tried to explain that guy why people consider navi as a top 5 team in the world,because noone except teams which i mentioned achieved more...
2015-11-02 12:59
how did LG do the dirty work? the one bo1 vs fnatic???
2015-11-02 02:25
That forced two of the favourites to win this tournament to face each other on the quarters, ultimately sending 1 of the beasts home much earlier than expected.
2015-11-02 11:56
at least somebody understands how it works
2015-11-02 12:56
Cloud9 favourite for winning the tournament? Wtf are i reading? The only thing Cloud9 can top is be one of the firsts to be sent home.
2015-11-02 13:04
he's talking about envy.. he said "QUARTERS" not "decider match".
2015-11-02 15:14
Who did g2 beat? They got stomped by a tilting tsm and won against a broken vp who are in a slump. The only good performance was maybe vs mouz and nv in the semifinales.
2015-11-02 12:53
#28
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Japan zekrom 
coldzera was also sick!
2015-11-02 02:07
+1 and jkaem
2015-11-02 06:54
#74
Australia BCP 
as well as aizy and niko. worldedit wasnt half bad either, same with snax. every team had a carry, but the MVP is arguably between guardian and kennys this tournament.
2015-11-02 09:05
You know... before this major, worldedit was the worst player @majors xd hltv.org/?pageid=173&statsfilter=1541&pl..
2015-11-02 13:00
#146
Australia BCP 
damn... he was huge for f3 this major though, if not for him they would probably get 16-0ed by tsm and get smashed by mouz too.
2015-11-02 13:32
Maybe against mouz, but he only had non-impact frags vs tsm pretty much. They went b / mid 24/7 and he kept saving his awp on a and get exit frags but yeah
2015-11-02 13:41
#151
Australia BCP 
i dont remember because it was like the second map of the tournament, but i remember he played well compared to his teammates
2015-11-02 13:43
He had a lot of frags, non-impact frags, but a lot of frags
2015-11-02 13:45
WorldEdit>Guardian NoKappa
2015-11-02 02:34
#40
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Brazil cinking 
lets see i guess guardian will be the choice
2015-11-02 02:48
If you'd have to chose a Navi player for MVP, you should go with Seized really. The guy was beasting and hard carrying.
2015-11-02 02:54
did you even watch games of navi? guardian was the one who carried consistently navi through whole tournament
2015-11-02 03:11
Guess he did. I thought Seized had performed more, just looked at the stats... mb
2015-11-02 03:14
Guardian dropped a fking 35 bomb on Dust2 vs LG in a 16-14 match and another shitload on overpass in a 16-13 match. Navi would've dropped right there in the quarters if it was'nt for him beastmoding
2015-11-02 12:01
Mvp for the losers shouldnt be a thing. KennyS is the mvp of this tournament.
2015-11-02 03:22
guardian always carries navi
2015-11-02 03:29
GuardiaN or jkaem
2015-11-02 06:54
aizy for carrying dignitas' shitty asses only to drop out of the groups lmao
2015-11-02 06:56
Yes Aizy deserves mvp because he played good in two bo1's in groups EleGiggle
2015-11-02 07:24
If there was MVP of group stage, he got it
2015-11-03 01:03
fox the real mvp
2015-11-02 07:19
TFW everyone is this blind.... LOOK AT THE STATS!!!! hltv.org/?pageid=348&eventid=1617
2015-11-02 12:18
Guardian is insane! just look at this shot! LOL youtube.com/watch?v=JJe8Dx6lP18
2015-11-02 12:20
kennyS had some important frags in train so i think kennyS gonna be.
2015-11-02 12:41
#111
nukkye | 
Australia riotbz 
NBK is mvp but jkaem, rain and guardian all deserve a go at it, too. I dont like the idea of giving the MVP to a team that didn't win the major though...
2015-11-02 12:43
I doesn't matter if the teams won, the Individual skill does. And GuardiaN carried the shit out of IVAN. I'd say he does.
2015-11-02 12:50
Guardian carried the shit out of Navi. But also, honor mention to fox. He played really great this tournament. This change in the role really made g2 better.
2015-11-02 13:06
KennyS is Clear MVP.
2015-11-02 13:07
are you fuckin joking??? SEIZED was only one playing in navi
2015-11-02 13:25
u are retard kid
2015-11-02 14:12
0.5/10
2015-11-02 17:24
guardian is by far the best awp in the world. sad that hes stuck in that medicore navi..
2015-11-02 13:31
#184
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Brazil cinking 
+1
2015-11-02 16:21
When will this CS community grow up?
2015-11-02 14:16
#183
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Brazil cinking 
guardian is like cristiano ronaldo best player in the world but his team sucks i mean portugal and navi but he deserves mvp
2015-11-02 16:10
Guardian top1 awp right now again and he has good team. Fortune wasnt on Navi's side in final, but anyway i think Guard mvp of the tourney
2015-11-02 16:25
#186
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Portugal Zedonp 
Yes, everytime na'vi does good is because he carries. He was the single guy with the most entrie frags and he rarely goes downs without killing someone.
2015-11-02 16:28
Jkaem did
2015-11-02 17:31
14:30OFFSET vs KPI
OFFSET
1.24
KPI
4.16
19:55Vexed vs Phoenix
Vexed
2.44
Phoenix
1.50
18:00Espada vs MAJESTY
Espada
1.35
MAJESTY
3.11
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