AGAiN, no question. SK had such a good run that some people can't get it out of their heads that in the long run again did better.
Why do you have to make this thread? You know that people are going to troll here and there's already threads that are almost the same.. Stop causing drama, jeez..
Probably SK Gaming will be 1st (I think). All the people get the last 2-3 tournaments where AGAiN/FX/ESC Gaming were better than them, but in the whole year SK Gaming were better. I think it should be something like this:
1. SK Gaming
2. ESC Gaming/AGAiN/Frag eXecutors
But they will put Na`Vi 3rd instead of fnatic and fnatic made much better than them... This is my opinion :)
FX also won ASUS Summer Cup, there were m5,navi,dts - good teams
if you select ICSC 8 for SK that u should also select asus summer for fx
sk and esc - 5 win tourneys..prize money for esc - they are a bit better
Neo... Oh wait, i mean mmm AGAiN
Both team were pretty even this year but after the WCG I think that ESC have a slight edge.
ESC/AGAiN = SK Gaming in 2011 imo
It has not been any best team 2011. It is to even to tell...
SK were only good during the summer because loord from ESC was inactive due to broken ankle. Plus AGAiN had sponsorship issues. If this would not have happened, then AGAiN could have attended DREAMHACK summer and I'm pretty sure they would have won much more money.
SK have the best players, sponsorship but still crybaby get_right cannot win.
still again couldnt go to dreamhack and gamegune .. ;p that would be some more cash
Dont forget those events where sk won but Again didnt attend
Again? why? because at all events they won was the SK, and IEM gc, DH winter, GameGune they were not there (not come). I would ask for a table to add a tournament the likes of Asus Summer ICSC was similar prize money and competition.
SK won vs ESC only at ICSC, some showmatches
ESC won vs SK at IEM, Xperia, eStars, WCG
they both won 5 tournaments
was again better in clashes vs sk again, the question is who is more accomplished. I think it Again
ESC is the team of 2011, thanks to the WCG win.
however, both teams are equally strong, ESC just did better this year
AGAiN was better then SK in direct duels
all over i would say AGAiN close in front of SK
yes AGAIN win . won the biggest tournament year and almost all the fights in the finals against the sk
Dunno, don't care... >.< Nice list anyways ;)
I can not understand people who discuss the facts. in the first post are two graphics comparing ESC and SK. and if you look at the facts, puts hand to heart and will be honest with yourself, that there is no other possibility than chosing ESC the best team this year. every other opinion is simply wrong because it is inconsistent with the facts
well it's very confusing tbh :)
for me SK and ESC are both top teams :)
$5.500 IEM V Europe / 3rd place
$17.000 IEM V World / 2nd place
$3.000 ICSC 7 / 2nd place
€10.000 ~ $12970 Xperia PLAY 2011 / 1st place
$2.000 ICSC 8 / 3rd place
$3.600 Asus Summer 2011 / 1st place
$13.800 e-Stars Seoul 2011 / 1st place
$15.000 SEC 2011 / 1st place
$3.000 ESWC 2011 / 4th place
$1.000 ICSC 9 / 2nd place
$500 MSI BEAT IT Russia 2011 / 5th place
$25.000 WCG 2011 / 1st place
$1.500 IEM V Europe / 7-8th place
$4.000 IEM V World / 4th place
€4.500 ~ $5836 Xperia PLAY 2011 / 2nd place
€6.715 ~ $8709 DreamHack Summer 2011 / 1st place
$5.000 ICSC 8 / 1st place
€12.000 ~ $15564 GameGune 2011 / 1st place
$11.000 e-Stars Seoul 2011 / 2nd place
$16.000 IEM 6 Global Challenge / 1st place
$12.000 ESWC 2011 / 1st place
$6.000 WCG 2011 / 2nd place
$3.200 IEM V Europe / 4th place
$35.000 IEM V World / 1st place
$5.000 ICSC 7 / 1st place
$5.400 OSPL Spring 2011 / 1st place
$4.430 ASUS Spring 2011 / 1st place
€1.120 ~ $1452 DreamHack Summer 2011 / 3rd place
€6.000 ~ $7782 Adepto BH Open 2011 / 1st place
€3.000 ~ $3891 GameGune 2011 / 3rd place
$925 Asus Summer 2011 / 3-4th place
$9.200 e-Stars Seoul 2011 / 3rd place
$10.000 SEC 2011 / 2nd place
$6.000 ESWC 2011 / 2nd place
$1.000 MSI BEAT IT Russia 2011 / 4th place
$4.275 MSI BEAT IT 2011 / 3rd place
again made much better performance than sk. again top this year.
Thanks for the statistics of winners and how much money they won. Very good job!
I think that amount of winning prizes are the best way to value the teams - good job G5. However I would pick both teams, AGAiN and SK, on the same level this year.
And i would rather pick Na'Vi in front of fnatic.
PS. You forgot about ex-ESC in the summary prizes statistics. ;)
navi and again have more prize places - 1O
SK - 8
conclusion: since we're talking about all year:
or sum of places
SK - 11
AGAiN - 20
Na`Vi - 26
Na`Vi would of been the best if they hadn't miss WCG
Im only waiting for modest opinion one guy.
Really hard to explain... SK and AGAiN are on this same level, but Polish team won WCG 2011...
1. ESC Gaming
3. Natus Vincere
It's a very close call between SK and ESC for 1st/2nd, and between fnatic and Navi for 3rd/4th.
Well done for collecting this information. If I have time over the next couple of weeks, I'll put together a model that weights the various events by criteria such as prize money, no. of top teams attending, etc. That's the only way to settle a contest this close, and the results may be surprising.
Most likely in my opinion recognize lutchey team SK, why?
First won more championships this year and secondly, it's the Swedes
Gl Sk, ESC / AGAIN / FX / MYM / AGAIN
neither one nor the other!!
bik fan of markalorp so me best tiem is navi ?
ai rove ceh9 he wery fonny and pro and luk laik biver hehe so bst tim for me navi
If we will listen to profesional player (Robban) we can say that ESC.pl is the best in 2011.
This clearly shows no one dominated 2011, because there is a split of Opinions between SK and Again.
In 2010, no one disagreed that Na'Vi dominated like hell.
There is no Dominant Team for 2011, and my personal opinion its a complete divide between Na'Vi, SK, and ESC-Gaming(PL). There was months which team was good and when.. and the deciding factor in my opinion was Na'Vi absence from WCG.. if they won that, then it would of been more clear. Na'Vi had IEM, 2nd ESWC.. and no attendance of WCG.. shame
AND SHUT UP RETARDS. ALL OF THIS TEAMS WON 1 of 3 MAJOR EVENTS!!!
NAVI - IEM WORLD
ESC - WORLD CYBER GAMES
SK - ELECTRONIC WORLD SPORTS CUP
HEY! Lions 8500 dollar so should be over DTS they placed 2nd at DHW and won 500 dollar in some other small tournament so 8500 dollar change it;)
no dominant team this year:
1.navi or sk or esc
1) Natus`Vincere / ESC-Gaming
2) Natus`Vincere / ESC-Gaming
NO DOMINANT TEAM IN 2011...
NAVI, ESC, SK
NAVI - top1 IEM World + top2 ESWC
1. NA`VI ofc.
1.markeloff and CO.
2.neo and CO.
3.RobbaN and CO.
ESC (ex-AGAiN) three times won in the finale of SK
XPERIA, e-Stars, WCG.
Three editions ICSC ESC(ex-AGAiN) top3..
SK won 5 times, ESC 4 times, but ESC on the podium 9 times, SK 8
Awards money for ESC.
all on 1st. without domination of any team.
It's a tricky situation, since SK didn't win anything till the beginning of June.
I'd say that the title should be "'shared" by SK and ESC/AGAiN
oh and the prize money are not a real reflection of the things happening, since Na'Vi won 35k at IEM, money for which SK and AGAiN had to win 2 tours + sth
1 - ESC/FX/AGAiN
2 - SK
3 - FNATIC/MOUZ
4 - M5
Good job milandini, by making those statistics.
As SK fan myself, i admit that ESC was better this year than SK, but not too much
Fuck SK, ESC and Na´Vi
the real winner is Anexis !
10% NA VI
robban said... team which will win wcg will be best in this year so... ESC best team in this year :)
There's no team of 2011, as two teams have 5 titles each and two others have three titles each. No dominance shown by any team, thus no dominant team.
<3 SK SK SK SK SK SK 4ever :) Sk > AGAiN
people forget at times that when they have events like IEM guangzhou and IEM new york in their list of events then they need to consider the ASUS summer that AGAiN won which had teams like DTS, Lions, Na'Vi also attending.
Team of the year is definitely AGAiN as they won almost all the tournaments which they attended and were very competitive
FX/AGAiN > SK > fnatic > Na'Vi
AGAIN/ESC win all of the finals vs SK... That way, I think AGAIN is top1 this year... Robban before play the final of WCG said that: "In that final, who win will be the top1 this year" or something like that, so...
SK on top without a doubt
I think it deserves the top spot SK
ESC(ex-Fx) 6-3 SK (in 2011)
So ESC(ex-Fx) won 6 matches out of 9 vs SK
If we make a rank (4p for 1st, 3p for 2nd, 2p for 3rd and 1p for 4th) we have ESC(ex-Fx) 30p-30p SK
So ESC(ex-Fx) are the best team of 2011
For me SK GAMING. Just because they win less money than ESC, they were the best team in 2011.
to be honest I think the best team is SK even though ESC won WCG...
I like SK more, but at the moment ESC is better team, but maybe 2012 will be better year for SK :D
how can you say that SK is 2011 top if they cant beat AGAiN in a final?
and some of these events that SK won i dont think that again was even there lol
SK is not a bad team and they were just a little bit worse than AGAiN this year but still again top1 2011,no team dominated this year but again was a litle bit better than the rest
I was counting points like someone above , but i take into consideration tournaments where ESC , SK and Na`Vi participate . So i was counting - IEM EC , IEM WC , e-Stars , ESWC ,SEC , DH Winter and NaVi is the best overall . If we count wins we can see that SK have the most won tournaments in 2011 , if we count money earned and number of podiums then we see ESC is the best . So i think top 3 world is :
1.SK , NA`VI , ESC
2.SK , NA`VI ,ESC
3.SK , NA`VI , ESC
I think these 3 teams are in the same level and we cannot decide which is better , SK won many tournaments like ESC but Na`Vi was the most "SYSTEMATIC" in 2011 , missing only 1 time a top3 (may i wrong).
4.fnatic (because they won IEM EC and DH Winter)