I think you're stupid. Last time fnatic won vs NaVi was on de_nuke which is by far the worst map of NaVi, any other map would likely result in a win for NaVi. I agree on that, I think NaVi wants revenge and if they aren't too unlucky then they will get their revenge.
Haha okey, lol'd.
Arbalet cup Europe 2010
inferno: Fnatic 16 - 1 NaVi
dust2: Fnatic 16 - 6 NaVi
"likely result in a win for navi" blablabla.. Bullshit.
Anyone can win, thats it, thank you.
NaVi isn't playing that good right now in this tournament.
Why are you all mad at ESL TV and complaining that there not gonna be any hltv for the game ?
ESL TV works fine for me (watching free stream, low quality, but it's good for me, no lag and etc.) and commentators are very good. So what's the problem ? (maybe if you're having lag problems is because of you're internet speed)
Makes me rage when Joe is commenting on something relevant to the round or the match and then the other guy cuts in "LOOK AT RITA PUSHING INTO CARPET - I think he's gonna meet some terrorists in a second.....actually they're up banana and into B site and now we have a 3v3 situation"
starix < GeT_RiGhT ? are u shure? starix is the best player at the moment. look at his play. almost every round - 2 or more. he play well from all kind of weapons.
and generally, it's not correct to compare that players. Imo, gtr is run-and-kill, but starix play the universal role in the team.
edward << forest
markeloff >> dsn
zeus = carn
starix > gtr
ceh9 < gux
this is the actual rating for this tournament only, I'm not talking about previous tournaments
Anyway, NO hltv NO demos after matches? :(
I think these are stupid comparisons like ">", "<", "='. They all are top pro players. The match result will depend on their level of motivation, concentration of each and ofc depend on the location of stars in space on that time :D will see...
Fnatic looks a lot stronger considering Na´vi where even lucky passing the groups. f0rest will shoot some headshots along with gux and gtr. This will end up 2-0 for fnatic.
If Na´vi wins this i´m going to suck on my own fallos
2010 YEAR IN COUNTER-STRIKE 1.6:
THE YEAR OF TEAM Natus`Vincere!
team Na`Vi (Natus Vincere):
Intel Extreme Masters 4 - 1st place.
Arbalet Cup Asia - 1st place.
Arbalet Cup Best of Four - 1st place.
America Dallas - 1st place.
Electronic Sports World Cup (ESWC 2010) - 1st place.
Arbalet Europe - 2nd place.
GameGune - 3rd place.
team fnatic MSI:
Intel Extreme Masters 4 - 2nd place.
Arbalet CUp best of Four - 3rd place.
Arbalet Europe - 1st place.
Electronic Sports World Cup (ESWC 2010) - 5-8 PLACE! GameGune - 1st place.
IEM4 European Championship - fnatic 2nd, Na`Vi 5/8th
IEM4 World Championship - fnatic 2nd, Na`Vi 1st
Arbalet Cup Best of Four - fnatic 3rd, Na`Vi 1st
Arbalet Cup Europe - fnatic 1st, Na`Vi 2nd
ESWC 2010 - fnatic 5/8th, Na`Vi 1st
GameGune 2010 - fnatic 1st, Na`Vi 3rd
Well, if you compare them both competiting in same tournaments you would see this.
fnatic - 2x 1st
fnatic - 2x 2nd
fnatic - 1x 3rd
fnatic - 1x 5/8th
Na`Vi - 3x 1st
Na`Vi - 1x 2nd
Na`Vi - 1x 3rd
Na`Vi - 1x 5/8th
As far as you see, it's almost the same statistic, except that Na`Vi won three times first place and one time second place, fnatic won two times first place and two times second place.
So, tournaments like Arbalet Cup Asia, where participants were from Asia and SNG country's (Ukraine, Russia, Uzbekistan...) don't count, because there were no EU top teams :)
And i don't wrote Arbalet Cup Dallas, because fnatic was not participating in it (here i in this comment was comparing fnatic and Na`Vi where they played in same tournaments)
tough match tomorrow for navi than ever b4 cuz new stronger lineup of fnatic and definitely nice to see f0rest&markeloff's awp battle on train if possible :>>>>
i bet on the new lineup this time
c'mon i cant wait to see
GeT_RiGhT and f0rest are the 2 best players in the world currently.
They failed in 2010 because of threat who was many times worst player of the events, but with Gux they play 5v5 now and not 4v5!
fnatic must win this and claim for top1 in the world again.
lol no you couldn't be more wrong dude :/ If you don't believe me: Watch some fnatic demos and spectate threat... you can also look at statistics from events. threat was often the statistically worst player... the proof is all there
When will you two retards understand that COUNTER-STRIKE isn't about FRAGS but ROUNDS?
Maybe threat played for the team, not for his frag.
Ever guessed why GET_RIGHT never get points as "FIRST FRAGGER"? Because he awaits everyone to die/lose hp to show up and exterminate everyone.
GeT_RiGhT isn't that genious player that you guys think he is.
He is always on top because of his frag.
GeT_RiGhT you here? read? You must win! pomnish you can easily soaked them ... we are with you! You have not recently ice))) Forest began to kill more than you)) will lose badly very .. All okonchatlno think that navi is better for you ... But not so! " you can so that the crush!
fnatic > Na'Vi!
GeT_RiGhT > Na'Vi
f0rest > Na'Vi
Gux > Na'Vi!
dsn > Na'Vi
cArNaGe[SWE] > N4'V1!!!
god are ukranians really that hopeful stupid or just plain full of pride for their country because of this they cannot make clear judgements and its getting really retarded to see such lame and irrational statements made about something that can go either way and plz stop making nuke excuse its over with and was a blessing in disguise to show that some tournaments are different than others and they should practice nuke and also that they are not unbeatable if anything mentally fnatic has advantage because navi find out that they can lose such pride turns to defeat rather quickly so i say its anyone game and its impossible to compare maps when you know too clearly that on any given day the better most prepared and the most mentally fixated on the win will be the victor so lets cheer for both teams and stop with this useless bashing of one side its good to have pride in your country but its another to use that excuse to degrade another team that is all i have to say on the matter
Edward and markeloff existed and they sucked balls with their kerchnet or whatever the shit it w3as. Only reasons why they are "good" is because of Zeus anti-strat skills.
Now when fnatic plays more aim-based CS, na´vi ain´t got shit on fnatic. This will be easy one for fnatic.
how can you compare KerchNET with Na`Vi? They made a team with best ukrainian players and started to dominate everybody. You're talking so much bullshit right now, get your facts together. This is the first year of Na`Vi, debut year of the highest cs level, give them some credit.
and please, get off f0rest's and GTR's dicks. Thank you.
Like i already said previously. I´m the fan of a team Na´vi is going to play versus. Fnatic is the hardest team they are going to face so yeah and i could say the same thing to Na´vi fanboys. They have only won 3 titles and they are already "the best team that has ever touched CS"
I never said that they are "the best team that has ever touched CS". Thats stupid.
I'm just saying that you're a hater and you're writing some bullshit, and you don't have a clue about what the hell are you talking about. Sorry dude, but thats my opinion.
h8ers be h8in
Everyone who says it´s easy for fnatic or Na´vi is really stupid or just a troll. Na´vi has been the best team this year and fnatic absolutely crushed everyone in 2009. Now Fnatic has their old lineup back. It´s 50/50.
in china,there are have many swedens'cs fans.but i donot like.I catch 2001 russian m19 forze amazing gaming forze virtus.pro k23 and so on.They are working very hard at all.400kg nook rado kailb4 madfan xek hoock romjke angel xaoc edward zeus adren,they are superstars in my eyes.
of course,na'vi is not welcome to in china.becaus china cser fans donot konw russian ukraine's cs.
You can;t really compare players at this level.
You'd have to compare them from so many angles it would be so complicated.
For example: PlayerA deals with flashed better than PlayerB. PlayerA holds bombsite B in Nuke better than PlayerB.
esl brings som of the most prestigous tournaments every year. carn himself said that they have great prize money and the best admins. you know money dont grow on trees right? do you know how esl gets money? sponsors! you know what sponsors likes? to have their products advertised. You know how they advertise it? ON ESL TV!!!!!!!!! its perfectly resonable that they only show their games on esl tv. if you still think esl sucks then your a fucking idiot....
i would not be too sure.
Ofc its good for fnatic leading as CT,but Na'Vi isnt too bad on CT side,too.
If markeloffs AWP is on fire,it wont be too easy for fnatic.
i guess it will be a 16-13 or 16-14 for either team