lol? madjick are top3 IMO, GTZ and team-sabotage are unmotivated, madjick can beat them, do you forgot they beated Paranoids (now defs) in EPT3 and reached the finals taking d2 from k1ck? They're young, it's good to them gain experience, have you ever heard about "What matters it's to participate, not to win". Do you think k1ck have level to play against Na`Vi, SK, and so on? They don't have, just like madjick, just because they're top1 pt team doesn't mean they have the internacional level, but they TRY, even thus they're weacker than them, just like madjick, defs and xf.